Senate committee proposes less drastic budget cuts for NOAA

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:16 PM GMT on March 07, 2011

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Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed a new budget (HR 1) for the remainder of the fiscal year that would slash funding of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) by $454 million. This would mean a draconian 28% cut for the National Weather Service, the agency entrusted to protect us from natural hazards such as hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. Monday, the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA budget by $6 million, and would allow NOAA to continue its efforts through the coming tornado, flood, and hurricane seasons to help protect lives and property without suffering from crippling budget cuts.

Now is the time to mobilize to ensure adequate funding for NOAA, and the National Weather Service Employees Organization issued these recommendations in a letter posted on their website today:

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Assuming the Senate adopts this proposal, the effort goes to convincing House Leadership of the important work of the NWS and fully funding NOAA. At this important stage, we ask you to contact Congressmen John Boehner and Eric Cantor and respectfully request that they support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. These congressmen hold the key to the future of the NWS.

To email or call Speaker John Boehner
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

To email or call Representative Eric Cantor
http://cantor.house.gov/contact/

You can also join the Protect the National Weather Service Facebook group, which was created for this cause. Our fan count is growing rapidly but we need more. We want Congress to take notice of how much support our fans have shown. Please share this message with your friends and ask them to click "like" directly on our page. We will have more information, some cool photos and interesting tidbits to share in the coming days.

Sample letters and talking points are available below. Please feel free to use these letters and also tailor them to the particular types of weather for your geographic area. The links below provide email addresses and phone numbers to help you in this effort.

Your support of the National Weather Service is greatly appreciated. You are making the difference in helping the agency continue their mission of saving lives and property. Thank you.


Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR
Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate's proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

* Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.

* This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.

* Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.

* The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane.s path, could also be eliminated.

* Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate.s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.
For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate.s proposal for NOAA's budget.

Sincerely,
Your Name

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I encourage all of you to make your voices heard and help preserve funding for NOAA and the National Weather Service.

You can call or email your U.S. Senator using this link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information /senators_cfm.cfm

You can call or email your U.S. House of Representatives member using this link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

The National Weather Service Employees Organization web site has talking points and sample letters (printable) you can use to contact your Senators and Representative.

Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, chaired by Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will hold a hearing on Tuesday, March 8, 2011, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled, “Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations.” Full Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) and Rep. Whitfield have joined Democratic leaders in the U.S. House in authoring the Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), a bill to block EPA’s controversial backdoor climate change agenda that would further drive up the price of energy for American consumers and job creators at a time when gas prices are already spiking and job creation remains weak.

The hearing is open to the public and press. Opening statements, witness testimony, and a live webcast will be available online at http://energycommerce.house.gov

Jeff Masters

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Nea I agree with a good bit of what you said.Now as a part of that working middle class;if we get rid of all corporations,how many jobs do you think we would lose?Remember basic economics?When i was in college the ole supply chain tree.Big corp supplied by minor corps.The above corps create jobs, allow workers benefits,supply for local communties to hire people to supply the needs of the workers and thier families.So do we need big corporations?Well if we did not have them between 1940 and 1945 you would not be worrying about any personal freedoms for their would have been none.Also where you live I dont know how many top 50 fortune 500 companies you have in your area/in mine thier are 2.And the tax breaks given to these 2 are done basically by the local gov county and city.And the local leaders at the time that gave them this break in our area were over 90% democrat.I understand thier theory it was to keep them in the area for the jobs and the money pumped into the local economies.Does this as a working middle class american upset me?Yes;but the idea behind it is not that hard to understand.Now I agree the coporations should have stricter regulations on enviromental issues,benfit packages and thier fair share of taxes to the local economy.But as long as the local govs trade tax revenue for jobs do you think they are going to volunteer the tax money lol?If you want the gov to regulate private business then we might as well stayed out of ww2 and let the socialist won the war.Also where I disagree with you, is your constant failure to mention the tremendous amount of people in this country who areliving better than a lot of us that work, scrimp, and save to just get by while they live a life of rielly off gov freebies.This is the people that are able to work that choose not to because of gov loopholes or because the jobs available or not to thier suiting.So really we the middle class americans are footing the tax bill for not just the wealthy as you seem to focus on, but the freeloading shiftless as well.In closing this takes away to where the money should be going to the elderly,the disabled,our military vets and the folks who are jobless and are trying to find work but cant.I guess the middle class until it become united against the wealthy and shiftless should just quit working lol.
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Quoting Eagle101:


Actually, Gov. Scott is not closing state parks. See Link and Link and Link...well...you get the idea.

In fact...according to the last link...the FDEP made the suggestion for the last two years...not Gov. Scott.

Very Respectfully,

Jon

it's not that Scott wants to close any extant parks, it's that his budget proposal doesn't allow a dime for "Florida Forever", the conservation land-buying initiative that has made many of those parks possible. And with land dirt cheap right now down here, there's not likely to be a better time to buy. Let the state legislature know: http://supportfloridaforever.org/

Unfortunately, Scott thinks he can run the state like a fiefdom, like a monarchy. But fortunately for us--and unfortunately for him--this is a democracy, so it's not his way or no way, much as he wishes it were.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

From what I can see, that's pretty much it. See, to far too many, profit and politics are far more important than people. Corporations rule America, and anything that can be seen as an impediment to those profits is Bad. To those folks, there should be absolutely no regulation whatsoever--environmental, financial, medical--since corporations are good for America, and besides, what have they ever done wrong? Too, there should be no corporate taxes; those are an unfair burden on the elite few. Taxes are for the little guy to pay, the little guy who is the beneficiary of the munificent corporation for whom he toils. All government is bad, and government needs to stay out of the boardroom. (Though they draw the line there; the government absolutely has a right to dictate what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes, just as it definitely has a right to dictate what a woman does with her own body.)

To summarize, then: yes, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Or to put it another way... The new conservatism blurrs the line between Anarchy and Authoritarian rule.
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Quoting Jax82:
Not only is the Globe supposedly warming, but now the GOM is too! :\

Looks like the Loop Current is considering dropping off a new eddy soon.
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Quoting greentortuloni:
I've been trying to understand Cat5's comment. I really don't get all the references to controlling my mind. The only thing I can think of is that by believing in AGW and trying to go green, somehow someone controls your mind?

If that's the case, I don't even know how to respond. That's a little paranoid and disturbing to say the least.

So there should be no building codes, food standards, medical standards, speed limits, helmet laws, financial regulations... Is this the direction you are going?


With all due respect, when people start talking about "making my own decisions" and such in regards to the "gubbmint", I immediately think that they need a new tin-foil hat.
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218. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting TomTaylor:


Nexrad or nexsat?

Nexrad is radar...not satellite


It was way past my bedtime.


Quoting WatchingThisOne:


Is that our first blob of the year?



I think it's actually so low it's in the Southern Hemisphere..
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Amazing GOM animation, Jax!

I think that warming is what we call Spring. :-D

Orca, when they lost their place on the UN Human Rights council and Libia stayed on. That should have been a big clue.

UN geospatial talks on Monday 14th will likely include remote sensing/weather to some extent.

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Quoting Skyepony:


There's plans for closing 53 parks..maybe even selling some.


Actually, Gov. Scott is not closing state parks. See Link and Link and Link...well...you get the idea.

In fact...according to the last link...the FDEP made the suggestion for the last two years...not Gov. Scott.

Very Respectfully,

Jon
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Quoting Neapolitan:

From what I can see, that's pretty much it. See, to far too many, profit and politics are far more important than people. Corporations rule America, and anything that can be seen as an impediment to those profits is Bad. To those folks, there should be absolutely no regulation whatsoever--environmental, financial, medical--since corporations are good for America, and besides, what have they ever done wrong? Too, there should be no corporate taxes; those are an unfair burden on the elite few. Taxes are for the little guy to pay, the little guy who is the beneficiary of the munificent corporation for whom he toils. All government is bad, and government needs to stay out of the boardroom. (Though they draw the line there; the government absolutely has a right to dictate what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes, just as it definitely has a right to dictate what a woman does with her own body.)

To summarize, then: yes, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.


No doubt invester and management greed is hugely responsible. But I also believe the system does a lot of damage. It's the banality of evil problem: if everyone just adds a little bit of evil, suddenly major evil is done seemingly spontaneously.

I also think that the spirit of emotional independence that America is famous for works against us here. No one wants to admit that we have to go on a diet, we can just have a beer and shake it off.
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I am still waiting for someone to wake up and discover they are no longer in the lead.. but are rapidly in danger of being in the relegation round.
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Complete Update





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Quoting greentortuloni:
So there should be no building codes, food standards, medical standards, speed limits, helmet laws, financial regulations... Is this the direction you are going?


From what I can see, that's pretty much it. See, to far too many, profit and politics are far more important than people. Corporations rule America, and anything that can be seen as an impediment to those profits is Bad. To those folks, there should be absolutely no regulation whatsoever--environmental, financial, medical--since corporations are good for America, and besides, what have they ever done wrong? Too, there should be no corporate taxes; those are an unfair burden on the elite few. Taxes are for the little guy to pay, the little guy who is the beneficiary of the munificent corporation for whom he toils. All government is bad, and government needs to stay out of the boardroom. (Though they draw the line there; the government absolutely has a right to dictate what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes, just as it definitely has a right to dictate what a woman does with her own body.)

To summarize, then: yes, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Sorry you took it that way nea but what I listed were facts.And another fact we are current under another massive layoff in due to the reduction of military contracts,and rising fuel cost and the fact is Obama is a liberal.My point is thier is no party perfect I have openly critisized the consevatives even though I lean Republican.Unless Iam missing something thier is not the same attitude on your part.You honestly feel the dems have no issues for I never see you post any beefs with them?As far as Reagan, I think that is how its spelled?Like him or not the majority of the public view ranks him one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.So in closing he must have done something people liked.And so did those Reagan democrats remember those?But in closing once again are we not all americans?United we staand< divided we fall?If the views in this country continue to be asonesided as they are on both sides the divided will lead to a collapse that we do not want to see.If we forget history its dooomed to repeat itself.And we now live in world that has so much turmoil and descent that a leader comes to power that happened in 1933 is that what we want?God forbid I hope not.Have a blessed day.
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210. Jax82
Not only is the Globe supposedly warming, but now the GOM is too! :\

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Good Morning,

I am getting used to the shock and relief budgeting tactic. It is like the doctor telling you, "we need to amputate both your legs" so that when they downgrade it to just "cutting off your foot", you are grateful.
Auctioneers have used it for years.
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208. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
RSMC Reunion
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
16:00 PM Réunion March 8 2011
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Satellite imagery suggest that a weak and ill-defined LLCC is located south of ITCZ and close to the Mozambican coast. It is centered at 10Z near 16S 41E with a MSLP at (1008 hPa) and weak winds in the 5/15 kt range. 24h variation of surface pressure at nearby stations indicate some slow falling for the Mozambique stations, no change at Juan de Nova and rising for the Comoros archipelago and northwestern coast of Madagascar.

Within the next three days, this system should gradually move on a southwestwards or west southwestwards track and stay close to the Mozambique coast. It could make landfall Thursday night or Friday near Quelimane. As the system is expected to remain close to land, potential for significant intensification appear limited. However as other environmental conditions are good (SST in the 29C range - good upper level divergence and weak wind shear under the upper level ridge), it is too soon to state that a cyclogenesis is unlikely in the sector ...

For the next 24 hours, development of a tropical depression is not expected. Beyond potential is downgraded to poor in the Mozambique Channel.
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207. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 12F
18:00 PM FST March 8 2011
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At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 12F (1000 hPa) located at 16.9S 164.9E is reported as moving east southeast at 16 knots. Position poor. Sea surface temperature is around 29-30C.

System lies to the north of an amplifying upper trough in a low to moderately sheared environment. Global models are developing the system and are generally moving it towards the east southeast.

The potential of this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 12-24 hours is HIGH
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I've been trying to understand Cat5's comment. I really don't get all the references to controlling my mind. The only thing I can think of is that by believing in AGW and trying to go green, somehow someone controls your mind?

If that's the case, I don't even know how to respond. That's a little paranoid and disturbing to say the least.

So there should be no building codes, food standards, medical standards, speed limits, helmet laws, financial regulations... Is this the direction you are going?

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Quoting cat5hurricane:

Oh C'mon. You mean don't take a peak every once in a while? I know you prefer Big Brother to manage your money and balance your checkbook. But you should just peak once in a while--just to make sure all your decision power IS really non-existent as big government promises. Peace of mind goes a long way, you know. But for me, peace is mind is knowing that I can think for myself and rightfully choose what is best for me without others' interference.


Sorry, you lost me. What big brother?

Also, can you be specific about the waste? I still don't get it.
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Quoting ezcColony:


Just sending money to anyone purported to be working the issue of AGW is helping perpetrate the hoax, which is a waste of money. The data generated is going to always skew to the end result being sought by the grantor of the money, which in this case is the current regime, the Marxist-Socialist States of America.


That's not really an answer.

For example, let's say it is a hoax. What better way to rid America of a bunch of kooks. Give them some grant money, let them think they are important and they organize themselves, harmless and tidy. The money comes back into the economy via their purchases in the larger economy.

The only loss is the waste of considerable brain power. However, considering that a lot of those kooks will develop new green technology, they will actually help America. Further, showing that America cares about the world and wants to be a part of the global community helps to sell products world wide. This helps reduce the deficit.

So far, you are talking the opposite of waste.
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Quoting greentortuloni:


I meant money wasted on the global warming hoax.

To me, before you answer, the only money wasted at all in the economy is money sent out of the country. If the government buys a boondoggle somewhere in the US, the former owner of the boondoggle gets rich and buys his trophy wife a smaller boondoggle. With the money left over, he buys a mistress. The mistress then buys a new dress. The dress maker buys wool. The sheep farmer buys sheep food. And so on.

The only losses in the economy are wasted oportunity to produce something that could be sold outside of the US, or a direct purchase from outside the US.

If everyone in teh US started buying America, that would do more to help the US than all the cuts anyone will ever make. Green energy is the equivielnt of buying US energy. Yep, there are other ways to not spend on foreign energy: nukes, drilling and so on. However, green energy both saves America as well as protect the environment.

That's my answer. I notice that most Republicans live in very clean areas. I would still be republican rather than a green conservative if it wasn't for issues like that. (The other issues are when people whom I consider ijits corner me and lecture me without answering any questions honestly. There is nothing in being conservative that requires pollution.)

Anyway, back to the question: how does teh global warming hoax waste money?



Just sending money to anyone purported to be working the issue of AGW is helping perpetrate the hoax, which is a waste of money. The data generated is going to always skew to the end result being sought by the grantor of the money, which in this case is the current regime, the Marxist-Socialist States of America.
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Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Reading back on a earlier post by nea.I think he mistakenly left out that the interest rates under Carter were 21% and greater.Also gas was over a dollar a gallon .That in todays dollars would be roughly about 4.50 a gallon.Our military no fault of thiers was at its weakest in recent memory.Due to carters military cuts and lack of leadership.Not to mention the Iran hostage affair.And in reading archives provided by the history channel and others.The then Soviet union was closer then to attacking the US than at any other time.They lost thier fear.Also under Slick Willy inetrest rates were higher and the military was slashed then to.Working for the second largest defense contractor in the world as did my father and many many more I know, thier were more layoffs in those 2 admins than at any time of Reagan and Bush.So maybe a safe and strong military that awards contracts and jobs,not to mention the supply and demand for local businesses cost taxpayers money but maybe thats better spent than freebies for those who dont deserve it.Just to reiterate that how one sided americans have become they only have one view thier own.Objectivity does not exist on either side .Just look at the media how about obberman(msnbc) and(Hannity fox news). Is that the way we really want to be as a country one sided, with no objectivity or open mindedness?Let me say this"i am a conservative in past but open minded enough if you guaranteed me a democrat running for pres. would be in the lines of a JFK or FDR i would vote for the democrat.The same if the republican was another guaranteed Ronald wilson Reagan I would vote for Him.Maybe its tiime for that third party i keep referring to for what I see thier is nobody in the same same zip code in either party that could rate with the 3 aforementioned.In closing as humans we are so guilty of seeing only good in what we like and only bad in what we dislike sad for as Ive stated before are we not all americans? Have a blessed day.

If you want to make this a partisan issue, feel free--but the simple and unspinnable facts very clearly show that the robust and healthy nation Dubya inherited is not the one he left for Obama. (And Raygun--who likely wouldn't even be allowed into the GOP these days due to his "moderate" views--still managed to nearly drive the nation into the toilet, though Dubya wins the Gold Medal as far as that's concerned.)

At any rate, I was merely expanding upon a post talking about debt/GDP ratio. Spin that any way you want, but again facts are facts.
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Quoting ezcColony:


Feds waste billions due to overlapping programs


I meant money wasted on the global warming hoax.

To me, before you answer, the only money wasted at all in the economy is money sent out of the country. If the government buys a boondoggle somewhere in the US, the former owner of the boondoggle gets rich and buys his trophy wife a smaller boondoggle. With the money left over, he buys a mistress. The mistress then buys a new dress. The dress maker buys wool. The sheep farmer buys sheep food. And so on.

The only losses in the economy are wasted oportunity to produce something that could be sold outside of the US, or a direct purchase from outside the US.

If everyone in the US started buying American, that would do more to help the US than all the cuts anyone will ever make. Green energy is the equivielnt of buying US energy. Yep, there are other ways to not spend on foreign energy: nukes, drilling and so on. However, green energy both saves America as well as protect the environment.

That's my answer. I notice that most Republicans live in very clean areas. I would still be republican rather than a green conservative if it wasn't for issues like that. (The other issues are when people whom I consider ijits corner me and lecture me without answering any questions honestly. There is nothing in being conservative that requires pollution.)

Anyway, back to the question: how does teh global warming hoax waste money?

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Ah, the hypocrisy of those who use the government-created internet to blather on illogically about the mean old government.

Bottom line: this nation has many problems, but perhaps the second largest is the ridiculously vast--and still growing--redistribution of wealth toward those select few at the top who have very successfully plundered America's assets to the detriment of the 99% not in their league. The largest problem is that many of those stolen assets are now being used far more than ever--thanks to the abominable Citizens United ruling--to convince too many naive and gullible people that it's all in their best interest.
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Reading back on a earlier post by nea.I think he mistakenly left out that the interest rates under Carter were 21% and greater.Also gas was over a dollar a gallon .That in todays dollars would be roughly about 4.50 a gallon.Our military no fault of thiers was at its weakest in recent memory.Due to carters military cuts and lack of leadership.Not to mention the Iran hostage affair.And in reading archives provided by the history channel and others.The then Soviet union was closer then to attacking the US than at any other time.They lost thier fear.Also under Slick Willy inetrest rates were higher and the military was slashed then to.Working for the second largest defense contractor in the world as did my father and many many more I know, thier were more layoffs in those 2 admins than at any time of Reagan and Bush.So maybe a safe and strong military that awards contracts and jobs,not to mention the supply and demand for local businesses cost taxpayers money but maybe thats better spent than freebies for those who dont deserve it.Just to reiterate that how one sided americans have become they only have one view thier own.Objectivity does not exist on either side .Just look at the media how about obberman(msnbc) and(Hannity fox news). Is that the way we really want to be as a country one sided, with no objectivity or open mindedness?Let me say this"i am a conservative in past but open minded enough if you guaranteed me a democrat running for pres. would be in the lines of a JFK or FDR i would vote for the democrat.The same if the republican was another guaranteed Ronald wilson Reagan I would vote for Him.Maybe its tiime for that third party i keep referring to for what I see thier is nobody in the same same zip code in either party that could rate with the 3 aforementioned.In closing as humans we are so guilty of seeing only good in what we like and only bad in what we dislike sad for as Ive stated before are we not all americans? Have a blessed day.
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Quoting greentortuloni:


Um, sorry, I didn't follow: how much money is being wasted? In what areas?


Feds waste billions due to overlapping programs
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Quoting cat5hurricane:

You got it. That's on the to do list this afternoon.


Um, sorry, I didn't follow: how much money is being wasted? In what areas?
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Quoting ezcColony:
Chevy Volt Sales Target Lowered To 10K For Year, Chrysler Sells Over 12K Grand Cherokees In One Month

The electric vehicle is not living up to the hype.

Know why?

Because batteries do not operate well in cold temperatures!!!!

Because batteries do not provide enough power to get you anywhere!!!!!!

Because batteries are an eco-hazard!!!!!!!

Because batteries weight too much!!!!!!

Because batteries are expensive!!!!!!

You greenies are nutz!


Not really, pretty much everything you just said is false.
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The Failures Of Alternative Energy
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Chevy Volt Sales Target Lowered To 10K For Year, Chrysler Sells Over 12K Grand Cherokees In One Month

The electric vehicle is not living up to the hype.

Know why?

Because batteries do not operate well in cold temperatures!!!!

Because batteries do not provide enough power to get you anywhere!!!!!!

Because batteries are an eco-hazard!!!!!!!

Because batteries weight too much!!!!!!

Because batteries are expensive!!!!!!

You greenies are nutz!
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Here is one for all you greenies out there. LOL!!!!! Every single one of you who support "alternative energy" should have a wind turbine like this erected in your neighborhood and see how you like it. (eh-ruh, eh-ruh, eh-ruh...non-stop) I particularly like the log this man and his wife are keeping.

You greenies are nutz! LOL!

The Falmouth Experience: Life Under The Blades



FALMOUTH, Mass. — Standing on his home’s porch, Neil Anderson points through the thicket of trees in his front yard and across Blacksmith Shop Road towards one of his closest neighbors: A wind turbine.

“Right now we are 1,320 feet, which is one-quarter mile south of Wind One, which is Falmouth’s first wind turbine. It’s been online since April. And we’ve been trying to get it stopped since April,” Anderson says.

Wind One, as the turbine is officially called, is owned by the town of Falmouth and is located at the town’s wastewater treatment plant, where it stands 262 feet tall to the turbine’s hub. That’s about 10 feet taller than the Pilgrim Monument in Provincetown. The blades extend just shy of 400 feet, which is about half the height of the John Hancock Building in Boston.



Wind 1 stands 262 feet tall in Falmouth. As many as 50 residents of the town have complained of the health effects the turbine's noise and shadows have had on their lives.

When it was installed last spring, Anderson didn’t think Wind One would cause a problem. For 35 years, he’s owned and operated a passive solar company on Cape Cod.

The energy conservationist in Anderson considered wind power a good principle. He wasn’t alone — before the turbine switched on, Falmouth residents almost universally welcomed Wind One as a symbol of renewable energy and a way to keep taxes down.

“I was proud looking at it from this viewpoint — until it started turning,” Anderson said.

But now, as many as 50 people are complaining about the turbine and the noise it makes at different speeds. A dozen families are retaining a lawyer for that reason.

“It is dangerous. Headaches. Loss of sleep. And the ringing in my ears never goes away. I could look at it all day, and it does not bother me. It’s quite majestic — but it’s way too close,” Anderson said.

Neighbors say this isn’t a debate about a turbine ruining their view, and their goal is not compensation. Some just want it turned off at night.

But Anderson can’t compromise. “This house has been my hobby, my investment, and we love it out here. We will move if we have to. Because we cannot live with (the turbine). No, we cannot,” Anderson said.

Wind One is expected to save the town about $375,000 a year in electricity. Heather Harper, Falmouth’s acting town manager, says Falmouth owes about $5 million on the 1.65-megawatt turbine.

Harper said one of the challenges of running the turbine is that the type of sound some neighbors complain about — that low-level pulse — isn’t regulated by the state. “The times I have been there I do not experience the impact of the effect that the neighbors have expressed that they’ve experienced. But I do believe that they are experiencing something that is very real to them,” Harper said.



Neil Anderson and his wife keep a log of how the turbine affects them. It shows nights of disrupted sleeping, headaches, and even mood-swings.

David McGlinchey is with the non-partisan Manomet Center for Conservation Sciences in Plymouth, which provides science-based information to policy makers. McGlinchey says that while Wind One has generated complaints, other turbines of similar size, including a 1.8-megawatt turbine in Hull, have been mostly well-received.

“The existing peer-reviewed studies suggest that there are no health effects associated with the sound and noise from wind turbines,” McGlinchey said. “That being said, people clearly experience symptoms. People have headaches, people have their sleep disturbed, people are not living well next to them in some situations. In some situations they are. So, both sides are right.”

Wind advocates say Falmouth’s experience has made it nearly impossible to get other turbines approved on Cape Cod, and potentially across the state. Last week, Falmouth’s selectmen acknowledged the issue and agreed to turn off the turbine when wind speeds exceed 23 miles per hour.

It’s unclear how much relief this will bring or how long it will last, since selectmen said more permanent mitigation efforts still must be negotiated.

One looming concern of neighbors is a second turbine, one of the same size and make that has gone up not far from the first. Falmouth’s Wind Two is scheduled to be turned on sometime this spring.

Ah...the Ides of March! :)
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back to back major hits on s. fl. in 2011 is that probable? no possible? yea
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Quoting TomTaylor:
Hope that mini guide helps people out...some of the best satellite imagery out there is on that website.


Thanks for that :)
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Quoting Skyepony:
Looking at cloudsat there's some sick high cloud heights & mad rain amounts over South America & around N end of Australia.

97S went after Africa pretty quick & that blob coming off the west side of Africa is impressive..



Is that our first blob of the year?
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Quoting Neapolitan:
China is happily laughing at us for the GOP's boneheaded move, which The Guardian calls "the greatest assault on environmental protection ever seen in the U.S."

Some people must be feeling very proud.

Article


China understands very well the strategic impact of having a much lower dependence on fossil fuels than the US.
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Quoting Jedkins01:


I agree, the government has been foolish with money, but maybe its because for years Americans have been asking the government to improve our system, while being stuck in childhood and not accepting a citizen must pay their taxes to pay for these things. The government gives what people ask for, so the debt is as much our fault as citizens as the government. You can't point the finger and say its all them.

Also, cutting everything isn't wise either, unless you think going back into stone age technology is wise, and dismantling the government that keeps the nation safe...


It actually has vanishingly little to do with what "the people ask for."

The people (80%) were not in favor of the bailouts. Here's how that peoples' wish turned out (bailout numbers from the Federal Reserve, after a whole lot of foot-dragging):

US Bank Bailouts:

Citigroup = 2.2 Trillion
Merrill Lynch = 2.1 Trillion
Morgan Stanley = 2 Trillion
Bear Stearns = 960 Billion
Bank of America = 887 Billion (absorbed Merrill Lynch)
Goldman Sachs = 615 Billion
JPMorgan Chase = 178 Billion
Wells Fargo = 154 Billion

Foreign Bank Bailouts:

European Central Bank, Bank of England, Bank of Japan, and UBS (Switzerland) = 165 Billion
Deutsche Bank = 97 Billlion
RBS (Scotland) = 92 Billion

We have had TARP (700 billion), POMO, TAF (900 billion), TARF, TSLF (250 billion), PDCF, CBLS, Maiden Lane LLC, the Stimulus Package (787 billion), QE1 (175 billion to GSEs for housing, 300 billion in Treasury buyback program, MBS buys (1.25 trillion), QE2 (600 billion in Treasury buybacks, 300 billion for MBS buys), FHA Hope for Homeowners (300 billion), FDIC line of credit (500 billion), extension of Bush tax cuts for, you guessed it, well-to-do people (est 80 billion), and lets not forget Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (400 billion).

Then there is the derivatives fraud, for which there will be little in the way of meaningful prosecution. There is a wide range of estimates, but I think you will agree these are large numbers:

BIS estimate: 1,500 Trillion
NY Times estimate: 1,000 Trillion
Wash Post estimate: 600 Trillion
Bloomberg estimate: 28 trillion

NOW talk to me about how the US taxpayer needs to buck up and settle in for even more tax increases than may be inferred from the above.

The Greenspan and Bernanke Feds and Congress (both parties) have engineered the largest wealth transfer (some might think of it as theft) in history, and they aren't done yet. They are just starting in on discretionary spending.

Discretionary spending accounts for less than half of the federal budget, and NON-DEFENSE discretionary spending amounted to only 20% of the budget in 2010 (we still don't have one for 2011). This means, absent a big axe swinging at defense, DEEP CUTS will be required to achieve modest effects on the overall budget and the accumulating deficit.

While you are writing or calling your Congresspeople, ask them why on God's earth all this money has been thrown not to the winds, but into the laps of the wealthy. Again, BOTH parties are to blame (take a look at the voting records). Income disparity between the wealthy and the less-well-to-do in the US is at third world/autocratic levels.

I really hope the NWS budget can be sheltered but there is a lot that is going to end up on the cutting room floor. I'm not optimistic. $61 billion is proving highly problematic, but that is less than 10% of the 20% of the budget accounted for by non-defense discretionary spending.
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Morning everyone, Bit chilly this am 48 in wcfl.
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181. flsky
Quoting RayDuray:
PensacolaDoug@10,

Presumption can be a dangerous thing. You are dead wrong about Huffington Post. I couldn't care less about that web-tabloid. Even Ms. Huffington admits that serious content made up no more than 15% of that site before she sold her soul to AOL.

No, for serious weather and climate discussion, I turn to several truthful resources.

Climate Progress

Real Climate [Gavin will be live blogging the comedy show in the House tomorrow if you have an inkling to sample both Joe Romm and Gavin's take on the idiot-liars that the GOP-sters have lined up to confuse the simpletons (you mostly are too clueless to know who you are...]


James Hansen's contributions


Peter Sinclair's "Climate Denial Crock of the Week" for a chance to scoff at the WUWT dimwits

Potholer54 for a wonderfully witty journalist's hacking attacks on the charlatans of climate confusion.

As far as politics is concerned, I think we need a lot more people paying attention to reality.

It can be found more often than at any trashy reich wing site on some of the following:

WSWS.org

SocialistWorker.org

Die Linke

Red is the new black. Unless, of course, you're still an anarchist.

Signed, Anonymous

Alt.2600 lives!

I actually did research work for her at one time, and let me tell you, it wasn't a pleasant experice!
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180. flsky
Quoting Chicklit:
I know...keep giving the rich money, less rules and more tax breaks while cutting public services. That's the way to 'shrink' government.
Cut aid to the poor and work with no benefits.
Create animosity because government workers have rights and employer-subsidized insurance; why should anyone have such things?! Sick.
I am an independent contractor, pay for everything with no insurance, no matching nothing.
However, I am paid incentives for working hard.
That's why I'm still up at 2 a.m. working and finally calling it a day.
You either pay benefits or provide incentives.
Otherwise, you've got nonproductive workers with a bad attitude.


I'm a bit confused with your one of your statements. I have been working continuously since I was 16 - I'll be 60 on April 16. I, too, am currently an independent contractor, with FEMA, and get no particular incentives for "working hard." I do what I do for them and get paid appropriately.

My medical insurance is "somewhat" subsidized by a former employer, but my payment to this plan has increased substantially year after year. At this point, I feel incredibly fortunate to even be receiving this benefit plus a small pension.

I get whatever part time jobs I can in those years when FEMA doesn't call, but in the last 6 months I've had to apply for public assistance. I don't like this situation, but I have to do what I can to feed myself in the "dry times." I have a part time job currently (what I could find locally), but would like to have a wider selection of jobs to choose from since I have a graduate degree.

Life goes on and someone who has pride does the best one can.
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179. xcool





...xcool....
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I know...keep giving the rich money, less rules and more tax breaks while cutting public services. That's the way to 'shrink' government.
Cut aid to the poor and work with no benefits.
Create animosity because government workers have rights and employer-subsidized insurance; why should anyone have such things?! Sick.
I am an independent contractor, pay for everything with no insurance, no matching nothing.
However, I am paid incentives for working hard.
That's why I'm still up at 2 a.m. working and finally calling it a day.
You either pay benefits or provide incentives.
Otherwise, you've got nonproductive workers with a bad attitude.
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Quoting Skyepony:
96P got a floater.. I think this one has a good chance to get named.

click for loop.


Tom~ Nexrad is pretty great.



Nexrad or nexsat?

Nexrad is radar...not satellite
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175. flsky
Quoting Grothar:
After World War II, the national debt stood at approximately 121% of the GNP.

And
Quoting Neapolitan:

True. Also true: national debt as a percentage of GDP increased under Nixon/Ford, Reagan, and both Bushes (with it going up by 20% in Dubya's second term alone.). It went down under Carter and Clinton.

Hmmm.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S ._presidential_terms


Tax cuts and refunds have proven not be a solution, although certain factions broadcast that they are so. It goes on and on. Again, STUDY YOUR HISTORY!!!!
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174. Skyepony (Mod)
96P got a floater.. I think this one has a good chance to get named.

click for loop.


Tom~ Nexrad is pretty great.

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Hope that mini guide helps people out...some of the best satellite imagery out there is on that website.
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