Senate committee proposes less drastic budget cuts for NOAA

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:16 PM GMT on March 07, 2011

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Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed a new budget (HR 1) for the remainder of the fiscal year that would slash funding of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) by $454 million. This would mean a draconian 28% cut for the National Weather Service, the agency entrusted to protect us from natural hazards such as hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. Monday, the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA budget by $6 million, and would allow NOAA to continue its efforts through the coming tornado, flood, and hurricane seasons to help protect lives and property without suffering from crippling budget cuts.

Now is the time to mobilize to ensure adequate funding for NOAA, and the National Weather Service Employees Organization issued these recommendations in a letter posted on their website today:

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Assuming the Senate adopts this proposal, the effort goes to convincing House Leadership of the important work of the NWS and fully funding NOAA. At this important stage, we ask you to contact Congressmen John Boehner and Eric Cantor and respectfully request that they support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. These congressmen hold the key to the future of the NWS.

To email or call Speaker John Boehner
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

To email or call Representative Eric Cantor
http://cantor.house.gov/contact/

You can also join the Protect the National Weather Service Facebook group, which was created for this cause. Our fan count is growing rapidly but we need more. We want Congress to take notice of how much support our fans have shown. Please share this message with your friends and ask them to click "like" directly on our page. We will have more information, some cool photos and interesting tidbits to share in the coming days.

Sample letters and talking points are available below. Please feel free to use these letters and also tailor them to the particular types of weather for your geographic area. The links below provide email addresses and phone numbers to help you in this effort.

Your support of the National Weather Service is greatly appreciated. You are making the difference in helping the agency continue their mission of saving lives and property. Thank you.


Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR
Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate's proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

* Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.

* This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.

* Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.

* The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane.s path, could also be eliminated.

* Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate.s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.
For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate.s proposal for NOAA's budget.

Sincerely,
Your Name

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I encourage all of you to make your voices heard and help preserve funding for NOAA and the National Weather Service.

You can call or email your U.S. Senator using this link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information /senators_cfm.cfm

You can call or email your U.S. House of Representatives member using this link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

The National Weather Service Employees Organization web site has talking points and sample letters (printable) you can use to contact your Senators and Representative.

Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, chaired by Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will hold a hearing on Tuesday, March 8, 2011, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled, “Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations.” Full Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) and Rep. Whitfield have joined Democratic leaders in the U.S. House in authoring the Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), a bill to block EPA’s controversial backdoor climate change agenda that would further drive up the price of energy for American consumers and job creators at a time when gas prices are already spiking and job creation remains weak.

The hearing is open to the public and press. Opening statements, witness testimony, and a live webcast will be available online at http://energycommerce.house.gov

Jeff Masters

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672. Skyepony (Mod)
Morning Spathy~ Sorry it was I that fell out lastnight..

I've seen extra left at the end of the year. It's rare but not unheard of. I had wanted to touch on that point Jon brought up, he put it quite eloquently. There is some real messed up processes in the ways that the money actually moves through the govt that in turn cause a small degree in waste. NOAA can't change that, so docking them because of it is ridiculous. But that's not really the issue on the table & no excuse to cut out life & mammoth money saving investments in our country...especially when our war budget is totally out of hand.

Spathy you've avoided the white elephant in the room, while you try & justify taking a few hundred million from NOAA.. the military stands there eating $650 billion? More than all the other militaries of the world put together. & for what what? What happened to the people's cry to bring home the troops? Most of these military operations are helping the oil companies. You say we should suffer to balance the budget.. How about we stop subsidizing oil companies with billions of dollars & quit using the military to "stabilize nations" so we can get their oil for cheaper.. If we paid the true price of oil there would be no talk of a carbon tax & our technology in sustainable energy would move on.

This new move by the corporate funded (koch) agenda that govt & state workers are not honest but lazy, a crowd that is ripping off the taxpayer, like some sort of elite is bunk. These are people that made the decision to not become filthy rich & help others & this country. The corporate elite are getting you on the govt/state worker lynching bandwagon & entertaining you with Charlie Shean while they cut your vitals & keep their projects that they spent more in lobbying each year to obtain than NOAA has ever got in a year...

You know I love you too & enjoy debating our differences occasionally. But your math.. no one is going yeah Spathy is right..cause you not. I've tried to show you.. I see others getting it. I give up, but maintain my stance your wrong:)

Look around at the effects the NWS says this would have on them.. closing Weather Forecasting Offices on a 27 day rolling blackout schedule. Soundings, buoys, radars affected.. there is other areas.. closing your eyes & slashing at the none military budget isn't the way to fix this.
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Quoting jeffs713:
KLAMANDE14 shows 3.06" per hour... so looks like a nasty cell moved through. But I agree.. anything over 3.5" is highly suspect (especially if you rule out a nutcase pouring a garden hose into the rain gauge)
I dunno, now.

Reports on the radio of a NWS estimate of ~5 inches in 30 minutes for Jefferson Parish a while after that. And the radar reflectivities weren't quite as high as Mandeville's.

So, if the ob site was recording/reporting the perfect interval...maybe not so whacky.
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NEW BLOG ENTRY
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That Lacombe I-12 debris was about the equivalent of 2 shredded medium-sized pine trees.

And more:

0712 AM FLASH FLOOD SLIDELL 30.28N 89.78W
03/09/2011 ST. TAMMANY LA AMATEUR RADIO

STANDING WATER REPORTED ON I-10 AT IRISH BAYOU. ALSO 3 TO
4 INCHES OF WATER IN THE ROAD OLD TOWN SLIDELL AT CITY
HALL.

0630 AM FLASH FLOOD 2 E DESTREHAN 29.96N 90.34W
03/09/2011 ST. CHARLES LA EMERGENCY MNGR

MULTIPLE STREETS FLOODED. WATER IN 2 HOUSES.

0750 AM FLASH FLOOD METAIRIE 30.00N 90.18W
03/09/2011 JEFFERSON LA PUBLIC

WATER OVERFLOWING BANKS OF CANAL BETWEEN WEST NAPOLEON
AND SEVERN.

0750 AM FLASH FLOOD MADISONVILLE 30.40N 90.16W
03/09/2011 ST. TAMMANY LA AMATEUR RADIO

WATER OVER VISTA ROAD.

0750 AM TSTM WND DMG LONG BEACH 30.36N 89.17W
03/09/2011 HARRISON MS LAW ENFORCEMENT

DAMAGE IN LANDON LAKES SUBDIVISION NORTH OF LONG BEACH.
POSSIBLE TORNADO... ROOF OF SHED AND TREES DOWN.

0810 AM TSTM WND DMG BILOXI 30.42N 88.93W
03/09/2011 HARRISON MS LAW ENFORCEMENT

POSSIBLE TORNADO ON CEDAR LAKE ROAD NORTH OF I-10.
TRAILER PARK HAS DAMAGE INCLUDING TRAILERS TIPPED OVER.

0734 AM TSTM WND GST BELLE CHASSE 29.85N 90.00W
03/09/2011 M56.00 MPH PLAQUEMINES LA ASOS

KNBG - BELLE CHASE NAVAL AIR STATION - WIND GUST 49 KNOTS
OR 56 MPH.
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Quoting greentortuloni:
more ice loss in the news.
Thanks for the link, and good morning everyone. What was also very interesting was another article attached at the bottom of this article. Basically it was a survey of Adders, toads and amphibians in the UK. It stated the steady decline of all except a newt that loves acidic pools and thrives with acid rain.
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This weather is starting to scare me, it's really bad here in Saraland, right outside of Mobile,Al. It's black as a ace of spades and raining like he&&.

sheri
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more ice loss in the news.
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Complete Update





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Quoting Jax82:
There are 2 torndao vortex signatures at the moment, yikes.


Yeah, the bottom end of that squall line is nasty. It is getting all kinds of bent up with bow echos and mesovortexes that there is bound to be some severe damage going on down there.

The whole line looks like a classic squall line / derecho. It is a bit earlier than usual in the year for such a well-formed line, but not by much. I just hope everyone impacted by it stays safe!
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658. Jax82
There are 2 torndao vortex signatures at the moment, yikes.

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Quoting RTLSNK:


Add three baskets of Beignets and that would do it! :)

mmmm... Beignets... yummm... (The Cafe Du Monde in the Quarters is the best, but the one on Veterans Memorial in Metairie is very good too)
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KLAMANDE14 shows 3.06" per hour... so looks like a nasty cell moved through. But I agree.. anything over 3.5" is highly suspect (especially if you rule out a nutcase pouring a garden hose into the rain gauge)
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Good Morning...Been a while......Really bad situation on tap for the Northen Gulf States this am into the afternoon....That frontal line is not weakening any time soon so the Florida Panhandle and Southern Georgia and Alabama will be under the gun shortly.......Give your friends and relatives a heads up in those areas this morning.
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0712 AM TSTM WND DMG SLIDELL ST. TAMMANY LA EMERGENCY MNGR

REPORTS OF DAMAGE IN SLIDELL. TREES DOWN. ROOF DAMAGE AND
POSSIBLY STRUCTURAL DAMAGE SUBDIVISIONS OF LAKE VILLAGE
LAKE WASHINGTON. POWER OUTAGES IN CITY.

(and now, it's time to go to work. Have to make it to Slidell first, tho)
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Quoting afj3:
Nice. That line approaching Baton Rouge is coming together and heading my way. WUnderful.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
One of the local PWS stations recording 4.2 inches per hour ?!?!
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/h dfForecast?query=70433

This one: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDail yHistory.asp?ID=KLAMANDE7

Heck, yeah, it's raining, but that might be a little high.
;-)
Not sure how the rainfall rate kept changing and including higher values than anywhere else, but the end result of this ob site was a peak at 3.76 inches per hour.

Still invokes a "!?!?!", I think.

Not finding any others that go over 2.5 inches per hour...except this one.

NO FREAKING WAY!


Max of 8.73 inches per hour.
(Not believing that for one second.)
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Here ya go.



Add three baskets of Beignets and that would do it! :)
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649. afj3
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2 more severe wind reports from MS and AL. This map will get busier...

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Quoting cat5hurricane:

Geez, you guys just can't catch a break.

Way to keep us up to speed with all those storm reports atmo.
We caught a break yesterday morning. And beads, and doubloons, and, well, everything. At the parade in honor of Grothar's friend, Argus.

Really, yeah, there are folks here that cannot get out and, possibly, have the nearby river in their yard or house right now. (No first hand info, just based on obs and past experience)
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0649 AM TSTM WND GST NEW ORLEANS M54 MPH ORLEANS LA ASOS

A THUNDERSTORM WIND GUST OF 54 MPH...OR 47 KNOTS...WAS
MEASURED AT NEW ORLEANS LAKEFRONT AIRPORT.
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Quoting RTLSNK:
Hit the wrong key, need more coffee.
Here ya go.

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Hit the wrong key, need more coffee.
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KMSY (New Orleans International)

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0630 AM TSTM WND GST KENNER M77 MPH JEFFERSON LA ASOS

A 77 MPH WIND GUST WAS MEASURED AT NEW ORLEANS
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
.

(somebody wake up Patrap...surprised his weather radio didn't already. Could have lost power already, tho.)
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0925 PM FLASH FLOOD 4 NE GREENSBURG ST. HELENA LA LAW ENFORCEMENT

STATE TROOP L MANDEVILLE REPORTED SEVERAL WATER RESCUES
UNDERWAY WITH MANY ROADS IMPASSIBLE IN THE NORTHEAST
QUADRANT OF ST HELENA PARISH IN THE VICINITY OF BEAVER
CREEK. HIGHWAYS 441...440 AND 38 WERE REPORTED
IMPASSIBLE.
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~15 miles to my N.

0520 AM TORNADO 10 SW BUSH ST. TAMMANY LA EMERGENCY MNGR

*** 1 INJ *** TREES DOWN AND HOUSE DAMAGE NORTH OF
WALDHEIM. TRAILER DESTROYED. 1 INJURED.
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About 30 minutes ago. This is west of NOLA.

METEOROLOGIST REPORTS RAIN WRAPPED TORNADO NEAR KENNER
MOVING INTO LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
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I can see why they called that one.

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Among others...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHEASTERN ORLEANS PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
SOUTHEASTERN ST. TAMMANY PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...SLIDELL...EDEN ISLE...
HANCOCK COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...WAVELAND...DIAMONDHEAD...
SOUTHWESTERN PEARL RIVER COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 730 AM CST

* AT 633 AM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 10 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF LACOMBE...OR 11 MILES NORTHWEST OF EAST NEW ORLEANS...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 45 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PEARL
RIVER...PEARLINGTON...STENNIS SPACE CENTER AND KILN
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New LSR:

03/09/2011 0457 am

Lacombe, St Tammany Parish.

Tornado, reported by Fire Dept/Rescue.


Roof off house.

atmo: (Short and to the point, I suppose)
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The aftermath in the works...and these were issued before this morning's rains.

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the tchefuncte river above US Highway 190 near Covington.
* From Wednesday morning to Saturday afternoon... or until the warning
is cancelled.
* At 6:00 PM Tuesday the stage was 13.5 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 20.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by
late tomorrow morning and continue to rise to around 23.0 feet by
early Thursday morning. Stages could be much higher than forecast
based on the potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18
hours.
* Impact... at 22.0 feet... tchefuncte Camp Grounds will be under a few
inches of water. The Goodbee commumunity is threatened with
flooding. Water will invade Camp tchefuncte's parking lot. Vehicles
must be removed to higher ground.



930 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the tchefuncte river near Folsom.
* From Wednesday afternoon to late Thursday night... or until the
warning is cancelled.
* At 5:30 PM Tuesday the stage was 7.3 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 16.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by
tomorrow afternoon and continue to rise to around 16.5 feet by
Thursday morning. Stages could be much higher than forecast based
on the potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 16.0 feet... areas of Spring Park and Albert Thompson
Road will be inundated. Homes will flood if the river rises higher.
Evacuation of those areas is recommended.




915 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the Bogue falaya river at Boston St in Covington.
* From late tonight to Friday evening... or until the warning is
cancelled.
* At 6:15 PM Tuesday the stage was 2.8 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 6.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by early
tomorrow morning and continue to rise to around 9.5 feet by early
Thursday morning. Stages could be much higher than forecast based on
the potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 9.0 feet... Bogue falaya River Park will be inundated.
Some classrooms at christ episcopal school grounds will flood.





915 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the Bogue falaya river at Camp Covington.
* From Wednesday evening to Friday morning... or until the warning is
cancelled.
* At 6:00 PM Tuesday the stage was 36.5 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 45.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by
late tomorrow evening and continue to rise to around 47.0 feet by
early Thursday afternoon. Stages could be much higher than forecast
based on the potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 45.0 feet... water will encroach residential property in
the vicinity of the gage. Residences on the East Bank near the
river will be threatened. Water will cover entrance driveways to
property on the East Bank.




901 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the Bogue Chitto river near Bush.
* From Wednesday evening to Saturday evening... or until the warning
is cancelled.
* At 8:15 PM Tuesday the stage was 7.5 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 11.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by
tomorrow evening and continue to rise to around 12.0 feet by
by late tomorrow night. Stages could be much higher than forecast
based on the potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 13.0 feet... homes in low lying areas on the downstream
side of Louisiana Highway 21 near the bridge will flood. The
access Road upstream of the bridge will remain inundated.





819 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The Flood Warning continues for
the Pearl River near Pearl River.
* From late Thursday night until further notice... or until the
warning is cancelled.
* At 7:45 PM Tuesday the stage was 11.6 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 14.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by early
Friday morning and continue to rise to around 16.0 feet by Saturday
afternoon. Stages could be much higher than forecast based on the
potential for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 14.0 feet... secondary roads to the river and throughout
Honey Island Swamp are inundated. Property in the vicinity of the
gage is flooded threatening about 20 homes along the left bank.





819 PM CST Tue Mar 8 2011

The Flood Warning continues for
the Pearl River near Bogalusa.
* From late tonight until further notice... or until the warning is
cancelled.
* At 7:00 PM Tuesday the stage was 16.3 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 18.0 feet.
* Forecast... the river is expected to rise above flood stage by late
tonight and continue to rise to around 20.5 feet by Sunday morning.
Stages could be much higher than forecast based on the potential
for very heavy rainfall over the next 18 hours.
* Impact... at 20.0 feet... Woodlands and crop acreage along the river
will be flooded. The Bogue Chitto wildlife management area will be
inundated with water in recreational camps and over access roads

atmo: Note that the bolded part is in all of them.
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Quoting DDR:
Decent looking rain for New Orleans...
It remains dry here in Trinidad as the dry season peaks,with few scattered showers yesterday.
New Orleans' pumping system couldn't handle the amount of rain we just got in the short time period we got it in. They would have lost many autos and some houses to the street flooding...

But, yes, they are getting some good rains. And probably not quite the amount we just did. (For which many will be thankful.)
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632. DDR
Decent looking rain for New Orleans...
It remains dry here in Trinidad as the dry season peaks,with few scattered showers yesterday.
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finally, that weather station's plot is updated. 4.9 inches per hour not showing, but...still a sick rain rate.



Whacky.

Full ob:
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This doesn't do it justice. The lightning was near and more than one per second.



(And a testament to my power company or incredible luck that I still have electricity)
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Quoting RTLSNK:
Stay safe atmo, not looking forward to this one moving east.
Ga needs the rain badly, but not that badly.
Personally, coming out of the worst of it soon.

Others are hopefully aware of what's pending...but probably not.
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Stay safe atmo, not looking forward to this one moving east.
Ga needs the rain badly, but not that badly.
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But is likely better than 2 inches per hour.



(2.9 is the max by radar, currently...possibly undercounting by ~40%...4.9 inches, though? Hmm.)
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One of the local PWS stations recording 4.2 inches per hour ?!?!
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/h dfForecast?query=70433

This one: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDail yHistory.asp?ID=KLAMANDE7

Heck, yeah, it's raining, but that might be a little high.
;-)
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03/09/2011 0450 am

Lacombe, St Tammany Parish.

Tornado, reported by law enforcement.


Slidell pd reports tornado crossed I-12 at Lacombe exit.
Debris on Interstate. Also trees down in Lacombe near
heart hospital on 434 blocking Highway.
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Okay, the lightning show is cool, but, really, that's enough for now, thanks. So enough, it's on the porch...

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Quoting Eagle101:


Greetings Neapolitan,

I am not going to go back and quote directly, but I am quite sure you knew I was addressing an assertion that Gov. Scott was going to shut down Florida State Parks. Clearly, that is not the case. I was not, and did not, address Florida Forever. You have mentioned in the past that you are a member of a certain group of exceptionally gifted thinkers. Yet, you deflect the issue to gain what you see as a “win” for you, and play partisan politics. It truly troubles me that you would sink to the level that the partisans want the “common” folk at, and that is to divide us and keep us occupied while getting us into the mess we now find ourselves in.

Debate is a healthy thing Nea. Deflecting and inserting other issues in response to ones post so you can “one-up” them is not constructive, and quite frankly, is just plain dishonest. You and I have had disagreements in the past. That’s ok. I do not harbor ill feelings toward you. I just ask that you be respectful and honest, as I am towards you.

Please take care, and have a great evening.

Very Respectfully,

Jon

Uh...what?

Someone commented that Florida Governor Rick Scott wanted to close a large number of state parks. You chimed in by saying that Scott wasn't planning to close them, and you provided links to several articles that stated as much. There were several comments from others that indicated no small amount of confusion on the issue, so I put in my own two cents as a way of clarifying things. There was nothing negative or nasty in my comment; I merely noted that the confusion doubtless arose because Scott's budget proposal includes no many for a land-buying program. (That wasn't my opinion, by the way; there are numerous news articles saying the same thing.) I also mentioned a well-publcized reason for Scott's bumpy transition from the corporate world to governance.

But then, you quoted me in your post #570, stating that I "deflected the issue to gain a win", that I "sank to the level that the partisans want", that I am trying to "divide and keep us occupied while getting us into the mess we now find ourselves in", that I was "plain dishonest", that I was "disrespectful".

Again: what?

At first I figured you'd responded to the wrong comment, but, no, I found it was clearly a response to me. So I read what I'd written, and re-read it, and re-read it again, and to be honest I'm still a bit confused. I defy you (or anyone else) to go back to my original comment and find any of the things of which you accused me. Unless a person is obsessively and blindly infatuated with Scott and his (so far) very unwelcome way of governing, it won't be found. You don't put yourself in that group do you? And if not, is it too much to hope for an apology from you?
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