Ice storm cripples Houston; Yasi the 2nd costliest Australian storm on record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:13 PM GMT on February 04, 2011

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A significant ice storm is in progress across southeast Texas, much of Louisiana, northern Mississippi, and southern Arkansas this morning, as the latest onslaught from the memorable winter of 2010 - 2011 continues. Houston, Texas recorded 1/10" - 1/4" inch of ice so far from the storm, resulting in a crippling of that city's transportation system. Numerous crashes have closed many area roads, and flights at local airports have been largely halted. Snowfalls of 1 - 3 inches will occur today along the northern edge of the ice storm region, in a swath from northeast Texas to western Kentucky. The storm will move into New England on Saturday, but will not bring heavy snow. The next chance for heavy snow occurs next Wednesday and Thursday, when the GFS model is predicting the formation of a winter storm capable of dropping a foot of snow in the Appalachians and inland areas of New England. However, it is too early to put much faith in this forecast.


Figure 1. Trees snapped off along the Chicago lakefront by winds from the Blizzard of 2011. Image credit: viewer uploaded photo from WGN.

Revisiting the Chicago blizzard
This week's blizzard in Chicago dropped 20.2" of snow on the city, Chicago's third-greatest snowstorm on record. But the tremendous winds that accompanied the blizzard--gusting to 61 mph at O'Hare Airport, and 70 mph at the Lakefront--made the storm Chicago's worst-ever blizzard as far as impacts on travel. Another remarkable feature of the storm were the intense thunderstorms that developed. According to an excellent write-up on the storm posted by the Chicago National Weather Service office, the Blizzard of 2011 had 63 lightning strikes, and several reports of hail. The most extraordinary hourly observation I've ever seen in a U.S. winter storm came at 9:51pm on February 1 at Chicago's Midway Field: A heavy thunderstorm with lightning, heavy snow, small hail or ice pellets, freezing fog, blowing snow, visibility 300 feet, a wind gust of 56 mph, and a temperature of 21°F. Welcome to the Midwest! Thanks go to meteorologist Steve Gregory for pointing this observation out to me.


Figure 2. Snow amounts from the February 1 - 3 blizzard of 2011 peaked at over 2 feet along the shore of Lake Michigan between Chicago and Milwaukee. Strong northeasterly winds pulled moist air off of the Lake in this region, allowing the "lake effect" to enhance the blizzard's snows in this region. Image credit: Chicago National Weather Service office.

Tropical Cyclone Yasi the second most damaging storm in Australia's history
Tropical Cyclone Yasi has dissipated, but the damage totals from the storm make it Australia's second most expensive tropical cyclone of all-time, according to Tropical Storm Risk, Inc. The storm's $3.5 billion price tag is second only to Cyclone Tracy, which hit Darwin on Christmas Day 1974, doing $3.6 billion in damage (2011 dollars.) Yasi roared inland over Queensland, Australia at 12:30am local time on Thursday as a strengthening Category 4 storm with 155 mph winds and a 930 mb central pressure. The cyclone missed the most populous cities on the coast, Cairns and Townsville, but damaged up to 90% of the buildings in the small towns near where the eye passed--Tully, Mission Beach, and Cardwell. A storm surge of 5.4 meters (17.7 feet) was observed at Cardwell, and there was substantial surge damage at the coast. Fortunately, the storm surge hit near low tide, resulting in a storm tide--the height of the water above land--of about 4.5 meters, more than 2 meters below what would have occurred had Yasi hit at high tide. Yasi moved quickly enough across Queensland after landfall so that major flooding was limited to just three locations near the coast. Yasi's central pressure of 930 mb at landfall made the storm the most intense recorded in Queensland since at least 1918, and possibly since 1899. In 1918, there were two cyclones (at Mackay and Innisfail) with measured pressures in the upper 920s/low 930s, but it is quite plausible that the minimum central pressures were lower than that. The 1899 (Mahina/Bathurst Bay) cyclone had a measured pressure (ship near shore) of 914 mb.


Figure 3. The tide gauge at Carwell, Australia during passage of Tropical Cyclone Yasi recorded a 5.4 meter (17.7') storm surge (red line). Since the surge came near low tide, the storm tide--the height of the surge above mean water--was only 4.5 meters (blue line). The storm tide would have been more than 2 meters higher had Yasi hit at high tide, and the damage from coastal flooding would have been huge. The green line shows the expected water levels at Cardwell due to the tide. Image credit: Queensland government.


Figure 4. Tropical Cyclone Yasi at 04:15 UTC February 3, 2011, as seen by NASA's Aqua satellite.

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431. DontAnnoyMe
2:42 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting flsky:
Actually, I use Firefox


No option for that in FF, it doesn't need it.
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430. BahaHurican
2:41 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting Tazmanian:
waters out here are vary warm for this time of year


Also note the anomalies along 40N.....
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429. flsky
2:39 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Actually, I use Firefox
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428. BahaHurican
2:38 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting flsky:

My Tools menu does not have a Compatibility View.
That's weird. I would try the IE help section on Compatibility View and see what u get...
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427. DontAnnoyMe
2:37 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting flsky:

My Tools menu does not have a Compatibility View.


Which browser?
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426. BahaHurican
2:36 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Does the first page of the Revision Update blog look OK? It does not to me, unless I change to compatibility view.
I posted in the Revision update blog...
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425. flsky
2:35 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Top menu: choose Tools, click Compatibility View, refresh.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Top menu: choose Tools, click Compatibility View, refresh.

My Tools menu does not have a Compatibility View.
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424. BahaHurican
2:34 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting flsky:
How do you turn off compatibility mode?
I have a toggle button on my topmost toolbar; however, it's better to go to Tools|Compatability View and turn it off there. It's also advisable to remove wunderground from your list of sites in the Compatability View Settings.

Hope this helps.
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423. Patrap
2:34 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
A Saints Fan Look back at Super Bowl 44
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422. Chicklit
2:32 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Thanks Patrick. Fixin' wings and drummettes, loadin' Mom in the car, packin' some beverages, and we're off to spread the joy at a coupla super bowl parties. Sorry we won't be watching the saints this year. One of my co-workers is from Wisconsin though, so things will be going full tilt over there. Then we'll visit at my brother's. Super Bowl Sunday has become a national holiday whether you like football or not!
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421. Tazmanian
2:31 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
waters out here are vary warm for this time of year


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420. pottery
2:31 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting flsky:
How do you turn off compatibility mode?

Does your spouse know that you are contemplating this action ???
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419. flsky
2:24 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
How do you turn off compatibility mode?
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418. DontAnnoyMe
2:23 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
That's exactly what I mean... I was running compatability mode all along. I am assuming that is what was setting the blog width to something wider than what the new settings are. Once I turned it off, everything fit into the space it is supposed to.

Makes sense to me. [shrugs]


Does the first page of the Revision Update blog look OK? It does not to me, unless I change to compatibility view.
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417. Patrap
2:21 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quicktime Movie of Winter Storm Last week
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416. BahaHurican
2:14 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Do you mean to say you turned compatibility view off, and then things improved? Makes no sense.
That's exactly what I mean... I was running compatability mode all along. I am assuming that is what was setting the blog width to something wider than what the new settings are. Once I turned it off, everything fit into the space it is supposed to.

Makes sense to me. [shrugs]
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415. DontAnnoyMe
2:11 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
btw... this basically means that if u were using the compatibility view with the old website, u shouldn't need it anymore... I think.... lol.


Do you mean to say you turned compatibility view off, and then things improved? Makes no sense.
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414. sunlinepr
2:10 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
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413. Patrap
2:10 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
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412. BahaHurican
2:09 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
btw... this basically means that if u were using the compatibility view with the old website, u shouldn't need it anymore... I think.... lol.
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411. Chicklit
2:08 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Good evening, this question may have been asked before, but what will the weather be like for the Super Bowl tomorrow please?
Nice vid DAM.
Damn they know how to strum!
Thx.
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410. pottery
2:06 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
Nah, pottery... I just think that's the old double vision setting in....

As a former uncle of mine used to say, "how many fingers am I holding up?"


Yeah, you're right.
When I close my eyes, they both go away.
Weird stuff....
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409. BahaHurican
2:06 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
LOL @ Don'tAnnoyMe.... That's what I meant - no more blog stretching on the new version.... and yep, the vid loaded fine....

TYVM
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408. DontAnnoyMe
2:03 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
Same cutting off situation. I'll know it's resolved after somebody posts a vid so I can see if it's trucated or just fine.

I'm assuming the blog stretching problem should be resolved by this?


I thought that was the blog stretching problem...

Jumping on the opportunity to post a vid :-)

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407. BahaHurican
1:56 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Nah, pottery... I just think that's the old double vision setting in....

As a former uncle of mine used to say, "how many fingers am I holding up?"

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406. EYEStoSEA
1:56 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting Ossqss:


Nice pic from Norway of the storm, not really clouds, from yesterday. It gained G2 status (k6). Glad it stopped there.

Pic from spaceweather.com site ~~~




WOW...what a spectacular sight!
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405. BahaHurican
1:54 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


What's the vid problem?
Same cutting off situation. I'll know it's resolved after somebody posts a vid so I can see if it's trucated or just fine.

I'm assuming the blog stretching problem should be resolved by this?
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404. pottery
1:53 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
Thanks, Don'tAnnoyMe. That worked. I will see what happens with vids, but the other two situations are resolved.

Looks like you resolved them twice LOL.
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403. DontAnnoyMe
1:50 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Quoting BahaHurican:
Thanks, Don'tAnnoyMe. That worked. I will see what happens with vids, but the other two situations are resolved.


What's the vid problem?
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402. BahaHurican
1:49 AM GMT on February 06, 2011
Thanks, Don'tAnnoyMe. That worked. I will see what happens with vids, but the other two situations are resolved.
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401. BahaHurican
1:44 AM GMT on February 06, 2011

Isn't it right now the equivalent of the first week of August to us in the Fiji area???

Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10F
9:00 AM FST February 6 2011
===================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 10F (1008 hPa) located at 22.5S 174.6W. Position POOR based on multispectral visible/infrared imagery with animation and surface observations. Sea surface temperature is around 28C.


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Isn't it right now the equivalent of the first week of August to us in the Fiji area???

Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10F
9:00 AM FST February 6 2011
===================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 10F (1008 hPa) located at 22.5S 174.6W. Position POOR based on multispectral visible/infrared imagery with animation and surface observations. Sea surface temperature is around 28C.


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Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Baha, I've addressed your line truncation problem here and on the Revision blog. Have you had no success?
I couldn't see the messages before...

@ HGW.... Fiji is up to 10 already???? Wow.
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Quoting pottery:
There is a Poll, on the right side of this page (classic view), which has been responded to by 149 people.
53.7% say the new blog is "great" or "good".
46.3% say it is "average", "poor" or "awful".

I am a little surprised by the results, so far.
What say Ye ?


I like the blog. I have enjoyed getting on here and discussing snow storms and hurricanes with you all!
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I never poll on the weekends.

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There is a Poll, on the right side of this page (classic view), which has been responded to by 149 people.
53.7% say the new blog is "great" or "good".
46.3% say it is "average", "poor" or "awful".

I am a little surprised by the results, so far.
What say Ye ?
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395. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10F
9:00 AM FST February 6 2011
===================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 10F (1008 hPa) located at 22.5S 174.6W. Position POOR based on multispectral visible/infrared imagery with animation and surface observations. Sea surface temperature is around 28C.

Gale Force Winds
=================
Clockwise winds 35-40 knots within 60 to 180 NM away from the center in the sectors from northeast through east to south

Organization remains poor. Convection remains persistent in the sector from northeast through east to south. System lies to the south of an upper trough and in a low to moderate sheared environment.

Global models have picked up the system and slowly moves it southwestward with slight intensification.

The potential for this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 24-48 hours is LOW.
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Quoting Patrap:

classic.wunderground.com
Thanks Pat. I'm not sure why some posts wrap fine but others are cut off...
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Have seen those Aurora from Tromso,,in Spring 84.

Awesome stuff fer sure.
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Quoting Patrap:
Solar Update
02/05/2011 by Kevin VE3EN at 22:05
Comment on Message Board

Geomagnetic Storm - A short lived Geomagnetic Storm took place on Friday evening and was caused by the arrival of a high speed solar wind stream. This elevated solar wind above 600 km/s and a southward Bz helped bring the K-Index level to near 6 at its peak. Aurora contacts were made on 6 meters.

Sunspots 1152 in the south and 1153 in the north remain quiet. There is only a small chance for minor flare activity.

Sunspots 1152 (S) and 1153 (N) (Saturday)








Nice pic from Norway of the storm, not really clouds, from yesterday. It gained G2 status (k6). Glad it stopped there.

Pic from spaceweather.com site ~~~


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Quoting Levi32:


I'm pretty sure that's never going to be possible. Even if it were, that would literally be directly messing with the Earth's biosphere. Tropical cyclones may be deadly, but they are very necessary to the functionality of the planet.
Tell that to the nut cases who thinks very little in the way of tropical cyclones.Yeah nobody want's them around,but they serve a purpose.
Quoting BahaHurican:
I don't know about youse guys, but that warmer Jan than Dec forecast actually worked out for us in the Bahamas. JAN turned out to be average or slightly above temp wise.
That's not good for sst.
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“The extra heat energy trapped in the atmosphere by the addition of greenhouse gases due to humans is now more than 1 percent as big as the sunlight total – 2.6 watts per square meter,” he said. “That’s causing us to realize that humans are capable of changing Earth’s climate.”
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Scientist calls for more attention to climate change

By David Baugher, Special to the Beacon
Posted 10:42 am, Tue., 2.1.11


Ralph Cicerone is a pessimist when it comes to public awareness concerning climate change. “I don’t think enough people are paying attention,” he said in an interview.

But he is not without hope.

Cicerone, president of the National Academy of Sciences and chair of the National Research Council, tried to capture some of that public attention during a presentation at the St. Louis Science Center Monday evening. Although the live audience may have been sparse because of the weather (more than 300 RSVP’d ), it was broadcast on HEC-TV and relayed live to 24 other science centers.




Ralph Cicerone has a long history on the issue of climate change.

The Franklin Institute recognized his work on greenhouse gases and ozone depletion in 1999 by naming him laureate for the Bower Award and Prize for Achievement in Science.

Two years later, he led a National Academy of Sciences study of the current state of climate change at the request of President George W. Bush.

In 2007, the University of Michigan created a distinguished professorship of atmospheric science in his honor.

He has also served as president of the Geophysical Union, the world’s largest society of Earth scientists.

His appearance was timed to coincide with an exhibit on climate change by the science center.

Backed by an array of charts, illustrations and cartoons, Cicerone demonstrated the shifts in temperature that have alternated in lengthy cycles of ice ages and warm periods throughout the planet’s history.

“These kinds of changes happen,” he said, “but we wouldn’t be here tonight if it weren’t for the fact that we know humans can cause these kinds of changes also and are becoming more potent at doing so.”

He said that strong evidence suggests human-produced greenhouse gases are affecting the world’s climate.

The amount of energy expended by humans from all sources from coal and gasoline to biomass and hydroelectric are only about 1/9000 the energy of the approximately 237 watts per square meter the sun delivers to the Earth. But the effect of that energy consumption, through production of such greenhouse gases as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide, may have more significant effects.

“The extra heat energy trapped in the atmosphere by the addition of greenhouse gases due to humans is now more than 1 percent as big as the sunlight total – 2.6 watts per square meter,” he said. “That’s causing us to realize that humans are capable of changing Earth’s climate.”

Carbon dioxide levels have risen by one-quarter since the 1950s, Cicerone said. Methane and nitrous oxide levels have also shown significant increases. Research on ice cores has demonstrated corresponding hikes in global temperature are associated with a boost in the amount of these gases.

About 85 percent of the excess carbon dioxide is thought to be the result of burning fossil fuels, while 15 percent is believed to occur from deforestation.

Cicerone said that the main alternate theory for temperature increase is no longer tenable. Research has revealed that the roughly 11-year solar cycle is not to blame for the changes in climate over the last few decades.

“The idea that the sun itself is causing this change is now disproven,” he said. “This 30-year period that I’ve been talking about is special in human history for another reason, namely that it’s the first period in history where we’ve been able to measure the sun well enough to be able to say if it is changing or not.”

Sea levels are certainly changing. Cicerone noted an approximately 16-centimeter increase since 1880. Since 1992, more accurate figures have shown a rise of 3.3 millimeters annually, double the previously believed rate. It’s thought an expansion of warmer sea water and the loss of ice mass from Greenland and Antarctica are factors in the change.

“We can see where sea level rise is coming from,” he said. “It doesn’t mean you can predict them but at least the numbers add up.”

WORLDWIDE RESPONSE needed

Meanwhile, solutions are difficult and increasingly must involve cooperation between technologically advanced nations and the Third World, he said.

“What’s in the atmosphere now has come from developed countries and what’s going to be in it in the future is coming much more from developing countries,” he said. “This presents a real challenge for people who are trying to reach some kind of equitable agreement on how to handle this problem.”

Coal presents a particularly thorny problem.

“Given that it’s a domestic energy source, there’s a powerful incentive to use it,” Cicerone said. “But it releases more carbon dioxide than virtually any other fossil fuel. This is the kind of challenge that we face if we are going to slow down climate change.”

Cicerone felt that climate science should play a dual role by both decelerating climate change and helping to study and prepare for the eventual results of alterations in the Earth’s climate.

“The biggest effects will probably be in what we call extreme events, like droughts and heat waves and floods and storm surges and so forth,” he said. “We’ll see a lot more things we’re not accustomed to.”

Cicerone took questions from the live audience and responded to email queries from other participating science centers.

One audience member asked about the involvement of scientists in taking their case into the political arena.

Cicerone said it was important for researchers to steer clear of political biases and remain nonpartisan. He said the general attitude today struck a good balance between direct involvement and the more reserved ethos prevalent in his youth.

“The unwritten rule was that you did not talk to the public about your research,” he said. “I would say scientists are more willing now to do the talking so I think we’ve got it about right.”

Cicerone said that taking steps on sustainability issues would likely require hard choices but could also represent a “win-win” situation. He suggested that increasing energy efficiency, which can save money and reduce dependence on fossil fuels, presents a possible benefit to national security.

Such advantages also support the idea that a lack of ironclad evidence doesn’t justify remaining idle.

“We have a lot of other types of human activity where we don’t require absolute proof before we take action,” he said.

Interviewed afterward, Cicerone said he was unsure whether people would act in time to make prudent choices on cutting back carbon emissions.

“I wish I could say yes but I don’t know,” he said. “There are two ways in which humans change their behavior. One is if they see crises and the other is if they can respond to a slow accumulation of rational indications. I hope there’s no crisis that comes. I’d rather see us respond to this slow accumulation of facts and rational conclusions.”

JUST THE FACTS

Phil Needleman, interim president of both the St. Louis Science Center and the Danforth Plant Science Center, said the presentation had been forthright and revealing.

“What people heard was facts. Science is about facts,” he said. “It wasn’t controversy. It wasn’t theories. It was a rich core of data that was elegantly laid out.”

Audience members Tom Applewhite and Steven Donner, each 24, agreed. The city residents are starting a renewable energy consulting company and said they stopped by to gain insight on the topic of global warming.

“One thing we’ve been doing is staying away from this issue so as not to cause clients any type of anger or frustration because we don’t know their views on climate change,” Applewhite said. “But after tonight I feel I can speak more freely about the issue because I have more of an informed opinion.”

David Baugher is a freelance writer in St. Louis. To reach him, contact Beacon health editor Sally J. Altman.
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Quoting johnbone:
Wow, really?

I've been "disliked" so many times today that my messages are hidden when I log out?

What on Earth did I say that is worthy of me being flagged?


It doesn't take someone to flag for a comment not to show. There is some sort of default pattern, but I can't figure it out. Some comments which have nothing to do with weather show, and some don't.

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Quoting AstroHurricane001:
By the way, which was warmer, January 2011 or 2008?

According to satellite measurements from UAH and RSS it's warmer in 2011 than in 2008. UAH 0.3 degrees warmer and RSS 0.2 degrees warmer! WOW! ;)

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Quoting BahaHurican:
I am also still looking for the link to the "old" website so I can use that while my problems are being addressed....


Baha, I've addressed your line truncation problem here and on the Revision blog. Have you had no success?
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Quoting Levi32:


I care because it's the weather. Enough said.

It's also worth mentioning because AGW theorists keep changing their minds about the snow, so I bring it up in that light as well.


Other than idle speculation made by individuals, I haven't seen or heard any science that makes a final definitive declaration one way or the other. Nor would I expect them to, since as the science improves and research is done current answers may change.

However, there are a range of possible scenarios of what could happen depending on how fast and how high the temperature change goes. But there is no one "blessed" scenario of what will happen. A number of related articles note in their research that if a particular scenario A holds true, then X is more likely to occur. A good chunk of current research is going into figuring what we can expect from changes on a finer resolution to help narrow down the likeliest scenarios and the impacts.
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I am also still looking for the link to the "old" website so I can use that while my problems are being addressed....
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I don't know about youse guys, but that warmer Jan than Dec forecast actually worked out for us in the Bahamas. JAN turned out to be average or slightly above temp wise.
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