2010: tied with 2005 for warmest year in history

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:23 PM GMT on January 16, 2011

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The year 2010 was tied with 2005 as Earth's warmest year in history, according to separate calculations performed by NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Temperatures during 2010 were 1.12°F (0.62°C) above the 20th century average. Reliable global temperature records go back to 1880. NOAA reported that the Northern Hemisphere had its warmest year on record in 2010, the Southern Hemisphere its 6th warmest, land areas their 2nd warmest, and the oceans their 3rd warmest. Global satellite-measured temperatures of the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere during 2010 were virtually tied with 1998 for warmest on record, according to the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH). The 1998 temperatures were 0.01°C warmer than 2010, but the difference is so small that the two years should be considered tied for first place. These measurements are very sensitive to the effect of major El Niño events that warm the waters and atmosphere over the Eastern Pacific. Thus the 1998 El Niño--the strongest such event ever recorded--set a global lower atmospheric temperature record that had been impossible to match until 2010.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average for 2010. Image credit: NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.

Earth's warmest temperatures in 2010, relative to average, occurred in western Greenland and eastern Canada, where record-duration sea ice loss contributed to temperatures that were 9°F (5°C) above average for the year (Figure 1.) The coolest temperatures, relative to average, were in central Siberia, 5.4°F (3°C) below average. In addition to being the warmest year on record globally, it was also the wettest (Figure 4.)


Figure 2. The latest rankings by NOAA of the hottest years globally since 1880. Earth's ten hottest years have all come since 1998, and the decade of the 2000s was by far the warmest decade in the historical record. Image credit: NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.


Figure 3. Global departure of temperature from average for 1880-2010, as computed by NASA.


Figure 4. Global departure of precipitation from average for 1900 - 2010. The year 2010 set a new record for wettest year in Earth's history. The difference in precipitation from average in 2010 was about 13% higher than that of the previous record wettest year, 1956. Image credit: NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.

A record warm year during a deep solar minimum: an unusual occurrence
The 2010 record warmth was unusual in that it occurred during a period when energy from the sun was at its lowest levels since satellite measurements began in the 1970s. The 11-year sunspot cycle causes a 0.1% variation in the amount of energy reaching the Earth. White et al. (1997) found that sea surface temperatures varied by about 0.04 - 0.07°C on time scales of 11 - 22 years due to this change in solar energy, with temperatures lagging the sunspot cycle by 1.5 - 3 years (because the ocean is slow to heat up and cool down in response.) So, although solar activity began to pick up somewhat in 2010, the 1.5 - 3 year lag in ocean temperature response meant that the record low solar activity of 2008 - 2009 was what affected global temperatures in 2010. Given that the departure of Earth's temperature from average during 2010 was 0.62°C, this difference would have been perhaps 10% greater had we been 2 - 3 years past the peak of the 11-year sunspot cycle. The previous global temperature record, set in 2005, occurred 3 - 5 years after the twin-peaked previous solar cycle. It is very difficult to get a record warm year during a deep solar minimum, making the 2010 record one likely to be broken later this decade as the sun begins to exert a greater warming influence on the planet.


Figure 5. During 2008 - 2009, the energy from the sun arriving at the top of Earth's atmosphere (Total Solar Irradiance, or TSI) as measured by satellites fell to its lowest value since satellite measurements began in 1978. Image credit: Physikalisch-Meteorologisches Observatorium Davos World Radiation Center.

References
Skepticalscience.com has an in-depth discussion of Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?

Wunderground climate change blogger Dr. Ricky Rood has a comprehensive 5-part series on how the sun affects climate.

Gray, L.J., J. Beer, M. Geller, J.D. Haigh, M. Lockwood, 2010, "Solar Influences on Climate", Accepted in Rev. Geophys, 2010.

White, W.B., J. Lean, D.R. Cayan and M.D. Dettinger (1997), Response of global upper ocean temperature to changing solar irradiance, J. Geophys. Res., 102, 3255-3266.

Thunderstorms hurl antimatter into space
NASA announced this week that mature thunderstorms can produce antimatter when exceptionally powerful lightning bolts occur. The antimattter beams were detected by the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope. The amount of antimatter produced is tiny, though, and probably not enough to help power a starship.

"Cap'n, we're running low on antimatter to power the warp engines. Can you fly in low over those thunderstorms to replenish our reserves? We'll use the transporters to gather the antimatter and funnel it into the antimatter containment vessel."

"OK, Scotty!"

I'll have a new post on Tuesday.

Jeff Masters

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Also, I won't continue to talk over gun control any further, because for one, it is off topic, and second, I'm not getting into more silly debates that just cause trouble here.

I just needed to say what needed to be said. I'm not saying I'm smarter or something form expressing the view. Rather Ive opened my mind to wisdom that's been passed on to me from those more wise than me.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

That may sound crass coming from Emanuel's lips--especially when taken out of context--but it's sound policy, if you ask me. After all, if an obese man gets rushed to the emergency room for a heart attack, isn't that "crisis" the perfect time for his doctor to talk to him about losing weight and quitting smoking? If a mentally-deranged person freely buys deadly weapons and ammo then goes on a killing rampage at a shopping center, isn't that "crisis" the perfect time to look at our flawed gun laws?

Now is the time to deal with warming. Not two decades from now, not next decade, not even next year. Now.


Flawed gun laws? If your intimidated by the American way, I suggest you go to Europe :)

The people who criticize most are those who fail to appreciate. I don't think you realize how important the right to bear arms is. And if you understood reality more, maybe you would realize that all gun control would do is keep guns out of law abiding peaceful people's hands. Meanwhile, the law breakers who use guns for terrible acts like in Arizona don't give a **** about laws, they will still get their hands on guns.

Sorry dude, but its a wicked world, personally I'll stick with keeping my family safe from people like him. Rather than a Federal government telling me I can't own one.

And we won't even get into the other issues that come from taking away guns. If you have any ounce of wisdom left in you. I would hope you can at least respect what I am saying.
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Quoting severstorm:

Morning, i am at 1.57 so far. I am also impressed with the amount of lightning and my temp is at 59. I will take all we can get for i know how dry it will become in mar,apr,may here in wcfl.Zephyrhills


Yeah, but there is sometimes hope in March and May, depending on the year, April is almost always dry. Accept last year, many spots had 5 to 9 inches for the month of April, last year was pretty weird rainfall wise, though.

January and February typically are the wetter months of the dry season, so, hopefully it will rain plenty more into December.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Up to 4" of rain has fallen into the Gulf southwest of Tampa, and 6" have fallen into the Florida Straits southwest of Key West. So far in Naples, though, we've received less than a trace. We could really use some before the late-winter fire season kicks in. There was one long-lasting blaze four years ago that kept our area covered in smoke and ashes for four straight days; I'd really rather not see that again.


We just hit 3 inches in my rain gauge! That puts our January total up to 4.33, which is very nice considering we only had 0.75 in December, 0.53 in November, and a record breaking 0.00 inches for October.
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The severe weather warning may not actually include me, but what we are getting a little further north is still intense! Been getting some bright blue and white cloud to ground lightning strikes despite fact that its 58 degrees! Its been gusting up to about 45 mph and it has the classic tropical whiteout downpour that creates almost a blizzard like effect. Amazing considering its January, the air is cold.

This type of rain is like what you usually see with 2.00 inch plus PWATS. Almost like the rain bands of a tropical cyclone.

BTW, the rain gauge is approaching 3 inches now!
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Quoting hydrus:
I am surprised that you didnt stomp me for saying(Carolinas,s)..It has been cold on the plateau too...Still a lot of snow on the ground.


oh...I know you know better... ; )
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Quoting presslord:


Thanks! In the Carolinas, we're just prayin' for some warmth...
I am surprised that you didnt stomp me for saying(Carolinas,s)..It has been cold on the plateau too...Still a lot of snow on the ground.
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Quoting hydrus:
It is good to see you post a bit more often Press.. How are things going in the Carolina,s.?.......:)


Thanks! In the Carolinas, we're just prayin' for some warmth...
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414. Jax82
Yes!

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Up to 4" of rain has fallen into the Gulf southwest of Tampa, and 6" have fallen into the Florida Straits southwest of Key West. So far in Naples, though, we've received less than a trace. We could really use some before the late-winter fire season kicks in. There was one long-lasting blaze four years ago that kept our area covered in smoke and ashes for four straight days; I'd really rather not see that again.
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Quoting Jedkins01:
With the rain gauge passing 2 inches now, and the most impressive cells in the gulf still yet to move in, we could end up with another inch additional or more. Man do I love stormy weather. I appreciate every extra bit of rain we get this time of year!

Morning, i am at 1.57 so far. I am also impressed with the amount of lightning and my temp is at 59. I will take all we can get for i know how dry it will become in mar,apr,may here in wcfl.Zephyrhills
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Quoting kidguero:
Looking at the departure from average temperatures chart in Dr. Master's 1/16 posting, I am wondering about trending. If you smooth out the peaks and valleys, there is a consistent rise in temp. from 1905-'40, followed by a plateau from '40-'80, followed by a steeper consistent rise from 1980 onward. Is anyone aware of any theories or correlations for this behavior? The plateau is intriguing.

The mid-century cooling is believed by most scientists to be due to an increase in particulate and aerosol pollution, both of which temporarily overrode the growing CO2 forcing at the time. Regulations and better technology saw a decrease in that pollution during the 60s and 70s, once again allowing CO2 forcing to take over. (It's a slightly long-term version of what happened when Mt. Pinatubo erupted in 1992; the cooling forced by the massive amounts of SO2 in the atmosphere overwhelmed the CO2-forced warming for a couple of years.)

But before anyone suggests controlling warming by simply filling the sky back up with particulates and aerosols, I'd say that would be a cure far worse than the disease. ;-)
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Quoting presslord:


something fishy is up with this...Preval (Haiti President) has said several times that if Baby Doc returned he would be arrested and tried for killing thousands and stealing millions...our Haiti contacts are quite concerned...
It is good to see you post a bit more often Press.. How are things going in the Carolina,s.?.......:)
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With the rain gauge passing 2 inches now, and the most impressive cells in the gulf still yet to move in, we could end up with another inch additional or more. Man do I love stormy weather. I appreciate every extra bit of rain we get this time of year!
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Looking at the departure from average temperatures chart in Dr. Master's 1/16 posting, I am wondering about trending. If you smooth out the peaks and valleys, there is a consistent rise in temp. from 1905-'40, followed by a plateau from '40-'80, followed by a steeper consistent rise from 1980 onward. Is anyone aware of any theories or correlations for this behavior? The plateau is intriguing.
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We are getting some very beneficial heavy rains this morning in Pinellas County. Once again, so much for the forecast of mainly light rain here. The rain rate has reachec 3.7 inches per hours in the fast moving convective cells that pass through.

These storms are very efficient rain producers, considering the PWAT is only around 1.5 to 1.6, which is still high for winter. However the rain intensity we have had this morning is like tropical summer rain.

There has also been very impressive lightning activity for such chilly temps in the 50's, Ive seen a couple of very close lightning hits similar to warm weather lightning. There are obviously some pretty impressive dynamics in place, because the water temps are between 49 and 53 off the coast here too.

So far we've had 1.93 inches of rain here at my place, and more to come! Its very exciting to see rain like this during intense La Nina drought like we have had!
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Indeed. I like Time's headline: Who Let 'Baby Doc' Duvalier Back into Haiti?. It sadly illustrates the remarkably short attention span of some (most?) members of our species.

So, what do you think is next on this ex-dictator's agenda? Maybe restoring the Tonton Macoute to its original glory? Re-instituting prison camps for political opponents? I think most Haitians old enough to remember the Duvaliers would probably rather have another earthquake than see a return to the old days and the old ways. :-\


something fishy is up with this...Preval (Haiti President) has said several times that if Baby Doc returned he would be arrested and tried for killing thousands and stealing millions...our Haiti contacts are quite concerned...
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Quoting calusakat:


Do you know who said 'Rule 1: Never allow a crisis to go to waste'?

It certainly wasn't any of those people you mentioned.

That may sound crass coming from Emanuel's lips--especially when taken out of context--but it's sound policy, if you ask me. After all, if an obese man gets rushed to the emergency room for a heart attack, isn't that "crisis" the perfect time for his doctor to talk to him about losing weight and quitting smoking? If a mentally-deranged person freely buys deadly weapons and ammo then goes on a killing rampage at a shopping center, isn't that "crisis" the perfect time to look at our flawed gun laws?

Now is the time to deal with warming. Not two decades from now, not next decade, not even next year. Now.
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Quoting LoveStormsatNight:
I hope you are not including Dr. Masters.


Focus, if you can do such a thing,

on the phrase...a crisis they unwittingly created...

Obviously, the Doctor was not a part of that creation.

Since he wasn't part of it...

figure it out for yourself...even you should be able to do a simple task like that.


BTW See that word 'unwittingly'?

It is a very important point as well. I hope the concept behind that word isn't over your head.


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Quoting presslord:
...hhhmmmm....
Link

Indeed. I like Time's headline: Who Let 'Baby Doc' Duvalier Back into Haiti?. It sadly illustrates the remarkably short attention span of some (most?) members of our species.

So, what do you think is next on this ex-dictator's agenda? Maybe restoring the Tonton Macoute to its original glory? Re-instituting prison camps for political opponents? I think most Haitians old enough to remember the Duvaliers would probably rather have another earthquake than see a return to the old days and the old ways. :-\
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Quoting pottery:

You are beginning to sound like Trotsky, Stalin and some 3rd world Union Leaders we have around here.
Be careful, people may start taking you seriously if you keep that up.
LOL


Do you know who said 'Rule 1: Never allow a crisis to go to waste'?

It certainly wasn't any of those people you mentioned. Especially since it was said recently.

Copy and paste the quote in Google and see for yourself.


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401. presslord
1:44 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
...hhhmmmm....
Link
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400. Jax82
1:41 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
Finally a good soaking!

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399. severstorm
1:15 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
Good Morning, What a wonderful sound to wake up to thunder and a nice steady rain here in wcfl. Looks like its going to be a wet one and i'll take it. Could get 1 to 2 inches.
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398. greentortuloni
1:12 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, he has no formal meteorology education. But then again, the TV weatherman gig doesn't require one--just the ability to talk pleasantly, point at a map, and read temperatures. I'm not suggesting what Sajak had to say in the column has no merit; I'm merely highlighting the fact that a TV weatherman/game show host/soap opera actor is indicative of the type of climate change expert contrarians are often stuck with.

Ah, well... ;-)


Wow, a lifetime of words and, in the end, Pat doesn't say jack.


Sorry, couldn't resist.
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397. Neapolitan
12:11 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting mckimsey:
Who cares if Global Warming is real and caused completely by the actions of man?

Who cares if Global Warming is baloney and the books are being cooked by man?

If people believe we'll eventually cook the planet with our actions and make it uninhabitable by my children's children's children, who cares?

If people believe "the vast majority of scientists" are cooking the books and didn't feel or otherwise remotely notice the 1.12 degrees Farenheit over average this year, who cares?

Many posters on here act like little kids taking a side simply for the sake of being right. Who cares? I do.

Posts riddled with opinion and x equals y jargon only help muddy the waters, with the bias coming across for the reader much stronger than any fact. It would be great if posters would consider before making a post whether the posts intent is more about helping or more about just trying to be right.

The heart of the issue: is man's science large enough to overtake man's deity. My opinion, not even close, and all science does is reveal -- but that doesn't mean I don't believe in man's ability to create instruments and tools that can accurately measure and predict things such as climate -- and it doesn't mean I believe that deity would never allow man's actions to burn the planet to a crisp. What it does mean is that many if not most of the posts on this topic are unhelpful to those really wanting to learn.

What is blatantly obvious and conclusive to one isn't necessarily so to the other. Some consideration on the GW topic would go a long way toward making this a topic which can be discussed in a normal voice rather than yelled across the road.

I haven't heard a lot of yelling myself. I admit my perception may be biased, but I mainly see AGWT adherents running around pointing out the gaping holes in the crumbling dam of denialism. Certainly there's frustration on the part of those adherents; repeatedly responding to the same tired and thoroughly debunked nonsense put out by some contrarians can wear out a person's patience, and that weariness comes out at times as snippiness. And, too, there's definite frustration on the part of the contrarians; they continue to proclaim that the planet's not warming, that a major decades-long cooldown is imminent, yet the earth steadfastly refuses to comply, instead blithely heating up by the day with no end in sight.

I suppose the best thing would be for some on both sides to step away from the keyboard from time to time when nerves start fraying (and, yes, that goes for me). The forum will go on in their/our temporary absence...

So far as your "Who cares?" questions, I would say that while some don't, most probably should. That is, anyone young, or with kids (and present or future grandkids and great-grandkids, and so on), or who would like this generation to be looked upon as wise stewards of humanity's only home should probably care.

So far as whether man's science is large enough to overtake "man's deity", or whether that deity would allow us to do ourselves in, I would merely point at any of the myriad ways an individual person can intentionally or inadvertently harm himself: heavy eating, heavy smoking, heavy drinking, heavy drug use, suicide, etc. If that single person can "overtake man's deity" to snuff out the life he was given, I see no reason to believe 6,000,000,000+ people working in careless concert wouldn't be capable of the same thing on a global scale.

Anyway: the owner of this forum can take away this mouthpiece if he wishes, but I will go to my grave fighting the anti-science movement, if not here then elsewhere. The world struggled long and hard and valiantly to pull itself from one Dark Ages; I refuse to sit idly by as it slides into a second one.

Cheers!
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396. islander101010
12:03 PM GMT on January 17, 2011
warmest yr on record? thats what the computer spits out! here. except for the period beginning of sept pretty normal maybe alittle below
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395. Neapolitan
11:48 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
I just Googled him and he was actually a "weatherman" before he became a game show host but I didn't see anything about his education in regards to this.

Yeah, he has no formal meteorology education. But then again, the TV weatherman gig doesn't require one--just the ability to talk pleasantly, point at a map, and read temperatures. I'm not suggesting what Sajak had to say in the column has no merit; I'm merely highlighting the fact that a TV weatherman/game show host/soap opera actor is indicative of the type of climate change expert contrarians are often stuck with.

Ah, well... ;-)
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394. aquak9
11:38 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Nea (swoon) you sent the rain? see, I KNEW you had a soft spot in your heart for me.

The low is not expected to deepen as it traverses across the peninsula. The rains are welcomed from the Fla/Ga border, on down throughout the state. Maybe only the slightest chance of a thunder rumble or two today.

Now, if this were the last week of Feb, I'd be taking my little handheld NOAA radio to work with me.

:)
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393. stormwatcherCI
11:34 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting Neapolitan:

A TV game show host? Seriously?
I just Googled him and he was actually a "weatherman" before he became a game show host but I didn't see anything about his education in regards to this.
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392. Neapolitan
11:21 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting aquak9:
to whoever sent the rain my way...

bless you, bless you.

You're welcome; we decided you guys need it even more than we do, so we did what we had to do and sacrificed. ;-) Nah, it hasn't made it here yet; overnight radar loops show it remaining tantalizingly close to the north. But perhaps only for now; the forecast is for it to move in our direction as the day wears on.

FWIW, a strong batch of storms is about to run across the Tampa area over the next hour. Lucky people...
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391. aquak9
11:14 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
to whoever sent the rain my way...

bless you, bless you.
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390. paratomic
9:42 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting mckimsey:
Who cares if Global Warming is real and caused completely by the actions of man?

Who cares if Global Warming is baloney and the books are being cooked by man?

If people believe we'll eventually cook the planet with our actions and make it uninhabitable by my children's children's children, who cares?

If people believe "the vast majority of scientists" are cooking the books and didn't feel or otherwise remotely notice the 1.12 degrees Farenheit over average this year, who cares?

Many posters on here act like little kids taking a side simply for the sake of being right. Who cares? I do.

Posts riddled with opinion and x equals y jargon only help muddy the waters, with the bias coming across for the reader much stronger than any fact. It would be great if posters would consider before making a post whether the posts intent is more about helping or more about just trying to be right.

The heart of the issue: is man's science large enough to overtake man's deity. My opinion, not even close, and all science does is reveal -- but that doesn't mean I don't believe in man's ability to create instruments and tools that can accurately measure and predict things such as climate -- and it doesn't mean I believe that deity would never allow man's actions to burn the planet to a crisp. What it does mean is that many if not most of the posts on this topic are unhelpful to those really wanting to learn.

What is blatantly obvious and conclusive to one isn't necessarily so to the other. Some consideration on the GW topic would go a long way toward making this a topic which can be discussed in a normal voice rather than yelled across the road.
(faint) .. weee caaaannnnn'ttttt heeaaaarrrr yyyyoooooooouuuuu.. (echoes) .. (silence)

J/k.
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389. mckimsey
7:26 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Who cares if Global Warming is real and caused completely by the actions of man?

Who cares if Global Warming is baloney and the books are being cooked by man?

If people believe we'll eventually cook the planet with our actions and make it uninhabitable by my children's children's children, who cares?

If people believe "the vast majority of scientists" are cooking the books and didn't feel or otherwise remotely notice the 1.12 degrees Farenheit over average this year, who cares?

Many posters on here act like little kids taking a side simply for the sake of being right. Who cares? I do.

Posts riddled with opinion and x equals y jargon only help muddy the waters, with the bias coming across for the reader much stronger than any fact. It would be great if posters would consider before making a post whether the posts intent is more about helping or more about just trying to be right.

The heart of the issue: is man's science large enough to overtake man's deity. My opinion, not even close, and all science does is reveal -- but that doesn't mean I don't believe in man's ability to create instruments and tools that can accurately measure and predict things such as climate -- and it doesn't mean I believe that deity would never allow man's actions to burn the planet to a crisp. What it does mean is that many if not most of the posts on this topic are unhelpful to those really wanting to learn.

What is blatantly obvious and conclusive to one isn't necessarily so to the other. Some consideration on the GW topic would go a long way toward making this a topic which can be discussed in a normal voice rather than yelled across the road.
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388. sunlinepr
5:55 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting pottery:
I'm out.


Gnite, I'm out too....


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387. pottery
5:54 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
I'm out.
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386. sunlinepr
5:48 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
As of Sunday, Tropical Cyclone Zelia was located near 21.6 degrees south, 161.4 degrees east or about 400 miles west-northwest of Noumea, New Caledonia. Zelia is moving southeast at 28 mph with sustained winds of 100 mph and gusts of 120 mph. Zelia is expected to slowly weaken as it moves off to the southeast over the next few days. Zelia may bring powerful winds and locally heavy rainfall to New Caledonia later on Sunday into Monday before tracking toward New Zealand.

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385. pottery
5:47 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting LoveStormsatNight:
Ugh, brush fires. Sometimes it's hard to remember that all the tropics are not rain forests. I looked at some Trinidad climate stats and there was more variation between wet and dry seasons than I expected. Is this airport representative?

That is "the" airport.
Enter 'piarco' in the seachbox, top of this page.

Trinidad is indeed tropical, and still has large areas of untouched rainforest especially in the hills of the Northern Range (to 3000 ft) and in the south and southeast of the Island.
The fires are generally set to clear land for small agricultural farms. These fires get away through bad practice.
No one is responsible.....
It's a disgrace.
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383. Skyepony (Mod)
5:42 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Zelia


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382. sunlinepr
5:39 AM GMT on January 17, 2011


This NASA satellite image shows a dust storm, hundreds of thousands of square miles in size, moving from the Saharan Air Layer over Africa into the eastern Atlantic Ocean. The image was captured by the Sea-Viewing Wide Field-of-View Sensor (SeaWiFS) instrument on February 26, 2000. (Courtesy SeaWiFS/Ocean Color Team)
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380. TaylorSelseth
5:35 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
*SIGH* it's hard to read the relevant comments when one has to read through denialist-spam.
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379. pottery
5:32 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting LoveStormsatNight:
How dry is your dry season? Almost no rain at all or noticeably less rain than in the wet season but still quite a bit?

Dry season is from Jan to June.
It varies quite a lot.
Last year we had showers up to Feb, but virtually no rain from then until May.
March, April and May are generally very dry. But we have had some years recently when we had almost no rain from Dec to end of April.
Winds are easterly, and strong in the daytime to 20 mph and higher gusts.
Bushfires are a major problem, and they are ALL caused by people.
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378. Patrap
5:30 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
..well that cant be good.
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376. sunlinepr
5:27 AM GMT on January 17, 2011
Quoting pottery:
Nice one, Sunline...

In the meantime, have you noticed the vast plume of SAL and very dry air stretching from Africa into the Caribbean?
Looks like dry season is here!


We've noticed....Mid Jan, Feb, "Vientos Aliseos" pick up and dry season arrives. We get closer to the Sahara.... Cold fronts keep north... For kids, Kite season arrives...


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