Snow, ice paralyze South; Nor'easter aims at New England; deadly floods in Australia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:49 PM GMT on January 11, 2011

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Much of the nation's South remains paralyzed today by a major winter storm that left up to a foot of snow and dangerous ice accumulations in its wake. Six states have declared states of emergency, and travel is extremely hazardous in the affected region, including Atlanta, where at least five closures of major interstates occurred this morning due to severe icing. The storm began Sunday in northeast Texas and tracked eastward, bringing snow amounts as high as 7 - 8 inches to northeastern Texas and southern Arkansas, 9 - 11 inches to northern Mississippi, northern Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, and southern Tennessee. As of 3am CST, the heaviest snow as reported in the NOAA Storm Summary occurred at Cashiers, North Carolina, 12.5 inches. The worst freezing rain was reported in central Georgia at Wrightsville, which received 1.5" of ice. Aiken, South Carolina received 1" of ice, and numerous locations in South Carolina, Central Georgia, and Central Alabama received over 1/2" of ice. Freezing rain amounts of 1/4" were also reported in northern Louisiana, central Mississippi, and western Arkansas. Dangerous travel conditions will persist across the affected region the rest of today, as temperatures will struggle to reach 40°.


Figure 1. Snow and ice at North Carolina's Charlotte airport caused travel delays yesterday, and thousands of flights were canceled Sunday and Monday across the Southeast U.S. due to the severe winter storm that hit the region. Image credit: wunderphotographer robb04047.

Major Nor'easter expected for New York City and Boston
Today's snow storm has pushed off the coast of North Carolina, and is expected to "bomb" into a classic Nor'easter off the coast of New England tonight through Wednesday. Up to a foot of snow is possible for New York City, Boston, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. The heaviest snow--up to 16 inches--will likely fall across central Massachusetts, eastern Connecticut, western Rhode Island, and Long Island. Today's Nor'easter will not be as intense as the December 26 blizzard, however. The winds from today's storm are expected to remain less than 35 mph, resulting in only minor coastal flooding and an absence of blizzard conditions (frequent wind gusts over 35 mph or sustained winds over 35 mph, plus visibility less than 1/4 mile for at least three consecutive hours.)

Deadly flash flood hits Australia
Flood-weary Queensland, Australia suffered a new flooding disaster yesterday when freak rains of six inches fell in just 30 minutes near Toowoomba. The resulting flash flood killed nine people and left 59 missing. The flood waters poured into the Brisbane River, causing it to overflow, and significant flooding of low-lying areas in Brisbane, Australia's third largest city with some 2 million people, is expected on Thursday. As I discussed last week, Australia had its wettest spring (September - November) since records began 111 years ago, with some sections of coastal Queensland receiving over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. The ocean waters surrounding Australia were the warmest on record during 2010, and these exceptionally warm waters allowed much higher amounts of water vapor to evaporate into the atmosphere, helping fuel the heavy rains. The record warm ocean temperatures were due to a combination of global warming and the moderate to strong La Niña event that has been in place since July. Queensland typically has its rainiest years when La Niña events occur, due to the much warmer than average ocean temperatures that occur along the coast. Beginning in December, the Queensland floods have killed at least 19, and done $5 billion in damage. Queensland has an area the size of Germany and France combined.


Figure 2. Remarkable 5-minute YouTube video showing the sad fate of a row of parked cars when a nearby small stream experiences a flash flood, sweeping away dozens of the cars. A note to the wise: Two minutes into the video, we see a man enter the flash flood to save his car. He is successful, but his actions were extremely risky--most flash flood deaths occur when cars with people inside get swept away. I would not have attempted to save my car in that situation.

Jeff Masters

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I believe it was Feb 12th 2010 and after..

The 4-6 in McComb,Miss was down right phun..


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Quoting Ossqss:


If memory servers me, we had 49 of 50 covered last year at one point.

Same this year/ except for Florida :P

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/snow-present-in-49-of-the-50-u-s-states/



The very reason I live here! lol
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Last year one day in February, there was snow on the ground in all fifty states. Let me see if I can re-find the link to the story of the OU met student who documented it.
Quoting Ossqss:


If memory servers me, we had 49 of 50 covered last year at one point.

Same this year/ except for Florida :P

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/snow-present-in-49-of-the-50-u-s-states/
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Quoting HurricaneKatrina:
http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/interactive/html/map.html

Most of the country is snow covered. After the global superstorm it will be far more!
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/HurricaneKatrina/comment.html?entrynum=14


If memory servers me, we had 49 of 50 covered last year at one point.

Same this year/ except for Florida :P

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/snow-present-in-49-of-the-50-u-s-states/
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Quoting FirstCoastMan:
levi32,Is that a positive or negative sign for the upcoming hurricane season about the temperatures?


It's not the global average temperature itself but the temperature distribution that is most important regarding the hurricane season. The pattern that will evolve during the latter part of this winter is still in the making.
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http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/interactive/html/map.html

Most of the country is snow covered. After the global superstorm it will be far more!
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/HurricaneKatrina/comment.html?entrynum=14
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Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change 11-17-08

Climate models have estimated the strength of water vapor feedback, but until now the record of water vapor data was not sophisticated enough to provide a comprehensive view of at how water vapor responds to changes in Earth's surface temperature. That's because instruments on the ground and previous space-based could not measure water vapor at all altitudes in Earth's troposphere -- the layer of the atmosphere that extends from Earth's surface to about 10 miles in altitude.

AIRS is the first instrument to distinguish differences in the amount of water vapor at all altitudes within the troposphere. Using data from AIRS, the team observed how atmospheric water vapor reacted to shifts in surface temperatures between 2003 and 2008. By determining how humidity changed with surface temperature, the team could compute the average global strength of the water vapor feedback.

This new data set shows that as surface temperature increases, so does atmospheric humidity, Dessler said. Dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere makes the atmosphere more humid. And since water vapor is itself a greenhouse gas, the increase in humidity amplifies the warming from carbon dioxide."

Specifically, the team found that if Earth warms 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, the associated increase in water vapor will trap an extra 2 Watts of energy per square meter (about 11 square feet).

"That number may not sound like much, but add up all of that energy over the entire Earth surface and you find that water vapor is trapping a lot of energy," Dessler said. "We now think the water vapor feedback is extraordinarily strong, capable of doubling the warming due to carbon dioxide alone."



Based on climate variations between 2003 and 2008, the energy trapped by water vapor is shown from southern to northern latitudes, peaking near the equator.
Credit: Andrew Dessler
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Vania's the first named cyclone this year.
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Question to the smart folks......

How do GHG's and temp behave in a climate system with aerosols and cloud formation, heat islands and Ozone holes, solar flux, deep water conveyors, polar soot and toss in the various oscillations t boot ? Is it a Logarithmic or Linear behavior?
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levi32,Is that a positive or negative sign for the upcoming hurricane season about the temperatures?
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Here, this might help:

Quoting robbonz:
¡ǝsıʍɹǝɥʇo ʞuıɥʇ oʇ ǝןdoǝd ǝʞıן ʇ,uop ǝʍ puɐ sǝıɹʇunoɔ ǝʇɐɹɐdǝs ǝɹɐ ǝʍ -¿ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɟo ʇɹɐd sı ʇı ɟı sɐ zu buıʇsıן uo ʇsısuı punoɹbɹǝpunʍ sǝop ʎɥʍ ʇnq

˙uoıʇuǝʌuoɔ ʎɹɐʇıqɹɐ uɐ ʎןǝɹǝɯ sı doʇ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ ɥʇɹou ʇnq 'ɟןǝsɯıɥ ɹoɟ ɹǝʍsuɐ oʇ punoɹɐ ʇ,usı ǝɥ puɐ ˙ʇןnɐɟ s,ʎɯǝןoʇd ןןɐ s,ʇı (-؛ uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ ʇɐɥʇ sɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ s,ʇı -¡dn ʎɐʍ ʇɥbıɹ ǝɹɐ ǝʍ - ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɹo puɐןɐǝz ʍǝu ɹoɟ uʍop ǝpısdn ʇsod ʇou pןnoɥs noʎ 'ou

Yes, that's more like it... ;-)
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Quoting Patrap:
...."I come from the Land down under, where women glow and men plunder"..

Ya better run, ya betta taker cover...


Men at Work.....c'mon LOL
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Quoting Levi32:
The current situation with our La Nina is interesting to watch. Looking at daily MSU temperature data (updated through December 31st, 2010, and available here), the tropics are crashing fast over the last three months, already below the long-term average, and the global anomalies are beginning to follow suit.

The most interesting part is how far ahead in the fall the tropical anomalies are compared to the global. If we zoom out to the entire data set since 1978, it is the 2nd largest deficit between the tropics and the globe in the entire data set behind the 1997-98 El Nino, which was a positive deficit in favor of the tropics. This is a negative deficit, and the largest of its kind in the data set. This implies that the global anomalies have a ways to fall yet to catch up.





Yep, the proverbial cliff is upon us.

Note: complaints about the site used will be forthcoming, but it does not change the data ;)



Does not include the last few weeks.



Also note the similar plateau's to 1998.
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...."I come from the Land down under, where women glow and men plunder"..

Ya better run, ya betta taker cover...
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Quoting NttyGrtty:
Thanks Keep...been gone a while. Had to make sure this thing still works


#273 answered you too.... guess you're in business ;-)
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Thanks Keep...been gone a while. Had to make sure this thing still works
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Quoting Patrap:
Over 90 missing in Australia as floods inundate Brisbane


By Ed Davies

BRISBANE, Australia | Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:22pm EST

BRISBANE, Australia (Reuters) - Thousands of residents of Australia's third-largest city evacuated homes on Wednesday as massive floods threatened to inundate the financial district, sparked panic buying of food and left authorities despairing for more than 90 people missing.

The biggest floods in decades have so far killed 14 people since starting their devastating march across the northern mining state of Queensland last month, crippling the coking coal industry, destroying infrastructure, putting a brake on the economy and sending the local currency to four-week lows.

With a flood surge expected to peak in the Queensland capital of Brisbane, a city of two million, on Thursday, search and rescue crews took advantage of rare sunshine on Wednesday to look for those still missing from tsunami-like flash floods that tore through townships west of the city this week.

"I think we're all going to be shocked by what they find in these towns that were hit by that tsunami yesterday," Queensland state Premier Anna Bligh told local television on Wednesday.

The worsening floods are forcing economists to raise estimates of the economic impact, with one central bank board member quoted on Wednesday as saying the disaster could cost as much as 1 percent of economic growth -- equal to almost $13 billion, double the previous highest estimate.

The Australian dollar sank to a fresh four-week low of $0.9803 on the comments from Warwick McKibbin, an academic and a member of the central bank's policy making board.

In Brisbane, thousands of homes and businesses were inundated as swirling flood waters rose in and around the riverside city, triggering residents to flee with few possessions to higher ground and evacuation centers.

City Mayor Campbell Newman said the number of homes expected to be hit by flooding had risen to 19,700, affecting up to 45,000 people, with the military now running relief flights with helicopters and C-130 transports.

Dams built to protect communities are at bursting point.

Power company Energex has shut power to some low-lying areas of Brisbane, including parts of the financial district, for fear that live power lines could electrify floodwaters. Up to 100,000 homes in Brisbane and nearby Ipswich were without electricity.

'TERRIFYING, CHAOS'

Bligh said the Brisbane River, which winds through the city center, should peak at the high tide on Thursday around mid-afternoon, with thousands of properties to be inundated before that time, but she appealed for calm.

"Right across this region, this river is creating chaos, terrifying people and causing damage already," she said.

Unmoored boats and pontoons with speedboats still attached could be seen adrift on the Brisbane River, which was swirling with flotsam as the sun broke through on Wednesday for what was expected, allowing rescue helicopters into the air.

Showers, though, were forecast to return next week.
the land going under
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Tropical Cyclone Vania:

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The current situation with our La Nina is interesting to watch. Looking at daily MSU temperature data (updated through December 31st, 2010, and available here), the tropics are crashing fast over the last three months, already below the long-term average, and the global anomalies are beginning to follow suit.

The most interesting part is how far ahead in the fall the tropical anomalies are compared to the global. If we zoom out to the entire data set since 1978, it is the 2nd largest deficit between the tropics and the globe in the entire data set behind the 1997-98 El Nino, which was a positive deficit in favor of the tropics. This is a negative deficit, and the largest of its kind in the data set. This implies that the global anomalies have a ways to fall yet to catch up.



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go ahead CQ
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Quoting NttyGrtty:
Hmmmm, must still be on a lot of ignore lists...
Bueller? Anybody? Any station, new antennae radio check?
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No, you should not post upside down for New Zealand or Australia - we are right way up!- it's the others that are upside down ;-) It's all Ptolemy's fault. and he isn't around to answer for himself, but North at the top is merely an arbitary convention.
But why does Wunderground insist on listing NZ as if it is part of Australia?- we are separate countries and we don't like people to think otherwise!
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286. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)


TC Vania's track for the next two days.

(map is from Vanuatu Meteorological Services)

Vanuatu Meteorological Services
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285. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
** WTPS01 NFFN 120000 ***
GALE WARNING 016 ISSUED FROM RSMC NADI Jan 12/0100 UTC 2011 UTC.

TROPICAL CYCLONE VANIA [988HPA] CATEGORY 1 WAS LOCATED NEAR 19.2S 169.3E

POSITION FAIR.

CYCLONE SLOW MOVING BUT EXPECTED TO MOVE SOUTHWEST AT 05 KNOTS.

EXPECT SUSTAINED WINDS OF 35 KNOTS CLOSE TO THE CENTER IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT AND WITHIN 240 NAUTICAL MILES OF CENTER IN THE SECTORS FROM NORTH THROUGH EAST TO SOUTHWEST.
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Fiji Meteorological Service
RSMC - Nadi Tropical Cyclone Centre


TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY NUMBER A8 ISSUED FROM RSMC NADI
Jan 11/2009 UTC 2011 UTC.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION TD03F CENTRE 990HPA WAS ANALYSED NEAR 19.1S
169.4E AT 111800 UTC. DEPRESSION SLOW MOVING. POSITION POOR BASED ON
MTSAT IR/EIR IMAGERY WITH ANIMATION AND PERIPHERAL SURFACE
OBSERVATIONS. 10-MINUTE AVERAGE SUSTAINED WINDS CLOSE TO THE CENTRE
ESTIMATED 25 TO 30 KNOTS. SST AROUND 29 DEGREE CELSIUS.

LLCC OBSCURED BY CIRRUS OUTFLOW. DEEP CONVECTION DISPLACED TO NORTH
OF LLCC. OUTFLOW GOOD TO THE NORTH AND DEVELOPING ELSEWHERE.
DEPRESSION LIES ALONG A MONSOONAL TROUGH AND UNDER A 250HPA DIFFLUENT
REGION. SYSTEM LIES UNDER MODERATE TO STRONG SHEAR. TD03F CURRENTLY
STEERED BY NORTHERLY DEEP LAYER MEAN WIND. DVORAK ANALYSIS BASED ON
0.4 WRAP LOG 10 SPIRAL YIELDING DT=2.5, MET=3.0, PT=2.5 AND FT BASED
ON DT, THUS T2.5/2.5/D0.5/24HRS. MOST GLOBAL MODELS HAVE PICKED UP
THE SYSTEM AND SLOWLY MOVE IT SOUTH-SOUTHWEST WITH INTENSIFICATION.

POTENTIAL FOR TD03F TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE NEXT 12
TO 24 HOURS IS HIGH.

THE NEXT TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY ON TD03F WILL BE ISSUED AROUND
120200 UTC.

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283. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)


TC Vince's path in the next two days.
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Over 90 missing in Australia as floods inundate Brisbane


By Ed Davies

BRISBANE, Australia | Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:22pm EST

BRISBANE, Australia (Reuters) - Thousands of residents of Australia's third-largest city evacuated homes on Wednesday as massive floods threatened to inundate the financial district, sparked panic buying of food and left authorities despairing for more than 90 people missing.

The biggest floods in decades have so far killed 14 people since starting their devastating march across the northern mining state of Queensland last month, crippling the coking coal industry, destroying infrastructure, putting a brake on the economy and sending the local currency to four-week lows.

With a flood surge expected to peak in the Queensland capital of Brisbane, a city of two million, on Thursday, search and rescue crews took advantage of rare sunshine on Wednesday to look for those still missing from tsunami-like flash floods that tore through townships west of the city this week.

"I think we're all going to be shocked by what they find in these towns that were hit by that tsunami yesterday," Queensland state Premier Anna Bligh told local television on Wednesday.

The worsening floods are forcing economists to raise estimates of the economic impact, with one central bank board member quoted on Wednesday as saying the disaster could cost as much as 1 percent of economic growth -- equal to almost $13 billion, double the previous highest estimate.

The Australian dollar sank to a fresh four-week low of $0.9803 on the comments from Warwick McKibbin, an academic and a member of the central bank's policy making board.

In Brisbane, thousands of homes and businesses were inundated as swirling flood waters rose in and around the riverside city, triggering residents to flee with few possessions to higher ground and evacuation centers.

City Mayor Campbell Newman said the number of homes expected to be hit by flooding had risen to 19,700, affecting up to 45,000 people, with the military now running relief flights with helicopters and C-130 transports.

Dams built to protect communities are at bursting point.

Power company Energex has shut power to some low-lying areas of Brisbane, including parts of the financial district, for fear that live power lines could electrify floodwaters. Up to 100,000 homes in Brisbane and nearby Ipswich were without electricity.

'TERRIFYING, CHAOS'

Bligh said the Brisbane River, which winds through the city center, should peak at the high tide on Thursday around mid-afternoon, with thousands of properties to be inundated before that time, but she appealed for calm.

"Right across this region, this river is creating chaos, terrifying people and causing damage already," she said.

Unmoored boats and pontoons with speedboats still attached could be seen adrift on the Brisbane River, which was swirling with flotsam as the sun broke through on Wednesday for what was expected, allowing rescue helicopters into the air.

Showers, though, were forecast to return next week.
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281. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin
TROPICAL CYCLONE VINCE (09U)
9:00 AM WST January 12 2011
========================================

At 8:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Vince, Category One (987 hPa) located at 14.9S 107.1E, or 1080 kilometers northwest of Exmouth has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 55 knots. The cyclone is reported as stationary.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.0/D1.0/24HRS

Gale Force Winds
=================
80 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
12 HRS: 15.1S 108.2E - 45 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 15.3S 110.1E - 55 knots (CAT 2)
48 HRS: 16.9S 114.0E - 70 knots (CAT 3)
72 HRS: 18.1S 114.3E - 80 knots (CAT 3)

Additional Information
======================

The shear analysis is around 20 knots from CMISS. The shear is expected decreased due to a retrogressing upper trough, though models differ on the relative location of the LLCC to the upper trough, leading to some uncertainty as to how much the shear will drop. However, in general, conditions should be much more favourable for development over the next 48 hours. The separation between the LLCC and the CDO is within 0.5 degrees. The Dvorak analysis is based on shear pattern giving DT of 3.0. Pattern T agrees with the DT so final T number is 3.0.

The system has been stationary over the last 6 hours, and all models indicate it will start to recurve towards the southeast. It is then expected to again recurve, this time to head westwards around 12Z on 14 Jan [+/- 12 hours]. There is significant divergence between the models on how fast the system will move while on the east southeastwards track, however all models now agree on no coastal impact to the Pilbara, with the system recurving well off the coast.

STIPS and model guidance generally do not show strong intensification during the next 48 hours but an assessment of the synoptic conditions indicates favourable conditions for development, hence the system is forecast to intensify at roughly the climatological rate.

The next tropical cyclone bulletin will be issued at 7:00 AM UTC..
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Vanuatu is about to get hammered by Vania and New Caledonia is next.
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Quoting NRAamy:
yeah, not a kids show.... you're a good parent!

:)
Gotta keep the children's minds young and healthy.
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Hi Pat - I'm too cold to prepare or to even think about Cane Season ---
I will sing & dance on the dock for warm weather!
Shout with glee & joy for temps to be in the 70°s,
Dance on the beach to get into the 80°s.
I'm so tired of boots, sweaters, jackets, scarves, gloves...
I'm ready for a bathing suit, sunshine & hot muggy humidity!
Quoting Patrap:


June 1 always is the Start Date,,but the Invests have begun in May the last 4 years.

And as a Gulf Coast resident,..preparing now is easier,,then in the rush crush of a actual Threat of a Landfall.




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yeah, not a kids show.... you're a good parent!

:)
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Quoting NttyGrtty:
Hmmmm, must still be on a lot of ignore lists...
Oh ghood evening.
Quoting NRAamy:
270. washingtonian115 4:14 PM PST on January 11, 2011

Quoting NRAamy:
I'm cereal!

????.


I take it you don't watch South Park...

:)
Not like that anymore especially when the kids decide to stay up late.
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Quoting NttyGrtty:
Good Evening Everybody!
Hmmmm, must still be on a lot of ignore lists...
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270. washingtonian115 4:14 PM PST on January 11, 2011

Quoting NRAamy:
I'm cereal!

????.


I take it you don't watch South Park...

:)
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Quoting NRAamy:
I'm cereal!
????.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Exactly 139 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes until the start of the 2011 hurricane season. Can't come soon enough... ;-)
Hurricane season is not welcomed...
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Q: Back in May 2009 there was a 90L that nearly became a Tropical Storm. Does anyone have any links for further info on said system? Very curious to know why that wasn't Ana.
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June 1 always is the Start Date,,but the Invests have begun in May the last 4 years.

And as a Gulf Coast resident,..preparing now is easier,,then in the rush crush of a actual Threat of a Landfall.




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Quoting Neapolitan:
Exactly 139 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes until the start of the 2011 hurricane season. Can't come soon enough... ;-)


Already going by like a flash, it was 180 days yesterday I swear.
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Exactly 139 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes until the start of the 2011 hurricane season. Can't come soon enough... ;-)
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Good Evening Everybody!
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I'm cereal!
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Quoting NRAamy:
Al Gore must get 100's of emails from ManBearPig on a daily basis!
You mean in less than 24 hours.
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Al Gore must get 100's of emails from ManBearPig on a daily basis!
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Quoting KoritheMan:


Which is a slippery slope, indeed. God also says to be good stewards of the Earth.
I see you've came out of your cave j/k.Anyway did you catch some of the snow?.
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Although...

Quoting MichaelSTL:
Maybe I should just put Levi on ignore because he is obviously one of those eggheaded denialists who think that science fiction trumps real science.

By the way, imagine if gravity, which is a theory like global warming, ceased to exist at this moment - we'd all fly off into space at up to 1,000 mph (the rotational speed of the Earth at the equator*)!

*Of course, Levi thinks that the Earth is flat and the moon landing was the biggest hoax ever, behind global warming. And the Sun orbits the Earth.

Oh, and Dr, Masters ought to moderate comments - he doesn't have to put up with the cr@p that goes on. Including people threatening him (probably including death threats).


I gave you more credit than this since your return, STL. We can disagree, but civility is a requisite.
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