Snow, ice paralyze South; Nor'easter aims at New England; deadly floods in Australia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:49 PM GMT on January 11, 2011

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Much of the nation's South remains paralyzed today by a major winter storm that left up to a foot of snow and dangerous ice accumulations in its wake. Six states have declared states of emergency, and travel is extremely hazardous in the affected region, including Atlanta, where at least five closures of major interstates occurred this morning due to severe icing. The storm began Sunday in northeast Texas and tracked eastward, bringing snow amounts as high as 7 - 8 inches to northeastern Texas and southern Arkansas, 9 - 11 inches to northern Mississippi, northern Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, and southern Tennessee. As of 3am CST, the heaviest snow as reported in the NOAA Storm Summary occurred at Cashiers, North Carolina, 12.5 inches. The worst freezing rain was reported in central Georgia at Wrightsville, which received 1.5" of ice. Aiken, South Carolina received 1" of ice, and numerous locations in South Carolina, Central Georgia, and Central Alabama received over 1/2" of ice. Freezing rain amounts of 1/4" were also reported in northern Louisiana, central Mississippi, and western Arkansas. Dangerous travel conditions will persist across the affected region the rest of today, as temperatures will struggle to reach 40°.


Figure 1. Snow and ice at North Carolina's Charlotte airport caused travel delays yesterday, and thousands of flights were canceled Sunday and Monday across the Southeast U.S. due to the severe winter storm that hit the region. Image credit: wunderphotographer robb04047.

Major Nor'easter expected for New York City and Boston
Today's snow storm has pushed off the coast of North Carolina, and is expected to "bomb" into a classic Nor'easter off the coast of New England tonight through Wednesday. Up to a foot of snow is possible for New York City, Boston, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. The heaviest snow--up to 16 inches--will likely fall across central Massachusetts, eastern Connecticut, western Rhode Island, and Long Island. Today's Nor'easter will not be as intense as the December 26 blizzard, however. The winds from today's storm are expected to remain less than 35 mph, resulting in only minor coastal flooding and an absence of blizzard conditions (frequent wind gusts over 35 mph or sustained winds over 35 mph, plus visibility less than 1/4 mile for at least three consecutive hours.)

Deadly flash flood hits Australia
Flood-weary Queensland, Australia suffered a new flooding disaster yesterday when freak rains of six inches fell in just 30 minutes near Toowoomba. The resulting flash flood killed nine people and left 59 missing. The flood waters poured into the Brisbane River, causing it to overflow, and significant flooding of low-lying areas in Brisbane, Australia's third largest city with some 2 million people, is expected on Thursday. As I discussed last week, Australia had its wettest spring (September - November) since records began 111 years ago, with some sections of coastal Queensland receiving over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. The ocean waters surrounding Australia were the warmest on record during 2010, and these exceptionally warm waters allowed much higher amounts of water vapor to evaporate into the atmosphere, helping fuel the heavy rains. The record warm ocean temperatures were due to a combination of global warming and the moderate to strong La Niña event that has been in place since July. Queensland typically has its rainiest years when La Niña events occur, due to the much warmer than average ocean temperatures that occur along the coast. Beginning in December, the Queensland floods have killed at least 19, and done $5 billion in damage. Queensland has an area the size of Germany and France combined.


Figure 2. Remarkable 5-minute YouTube video showing the sad fate of a row of parked cars when a nearby small stream experiences a flash flood, sweeping away dozens of the cars. A note to the wise: Two minutes into the video, we see a man enter the flash flood to save his car. He is successful, but his actions were extremely risky--most flash flood deaths occur when cars with people inside get swept away. I would not have attempted to save my car in that situation.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Grothar:


"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness.....

Don't get too upset, things usually work out. Right now, people are afraid of a lot of things; the economy, war, government. Hopefully, we all will make the right decisions in the future.
yep everything is ok here move along nothing but fireworks
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Quoting EnergyMoron:


3.3 C is neet koud. Ik vindt het lekker!

Wel te rustig! (echte, niet zoals "OxGas")


U bent te grappig. Got to go "hit the hay" and turn the blog over to the night shift. Play nice.
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I do not know what they are talking about, but perhaps you have a clue:
Science and politics of global climate change


Anyway, past my bed time. Night all.
(Yes, it's late and I'm generalizing which I disapprove of in others... disturbing news today about a young man who lit himself on fire...related to high cost of food and lack of jobs, I think in Tunisia.)
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Quoting Chicklit:
Every few days another catastrophe documented. Previous blog it was bleaching of the reefs. This time it's unprecendented flooding in Australia. Record high temps over the globe all summer and into the fall. Massive oil spill in the Gulf and we stand by, point fingers, and act as if the scientists documenting all this are full of profit motives. At least they're talking about beefing up regulation on offshore drilling and trying to make it apolitical. I've had it with the politization of environmental policy.
Anyway, thanks for the compliment Grothar. I hope to live long enough to see the foolish, shortsighted irresponsibility come to an end. Still, think there are worse times ahead. Environmentally and socially, politically and economically.


"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness.....

Don't get too upset, things usually work out. Right now, people are afraid of a lot of things; the economy, war, government. Hopefully, we all will make the right decisions in the future.
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If you go to nbcwashington.com they should have on the front page,something about our snowstorm that's occuring.However the locals are pissed,that we aren't getting much.It's like nature is trying to avoid our area.And I have proof!!!.Our meteorologist said that we were in sort of like a dount whole.From northern virgina to southern Maryland,and D.C we have no snow,While other near by states have some.Sad.
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Quoting Grothar:


If you go back to post #203, Dr. Masters posted a link about that very subject. There have been a number of scientist with different approaches to that very subject, that are coming into agreement. It is a wordy piece, but interesting. If you have the time go look at it.

Ik geef om niet die wat u zegt, is het koud. LOL


3.3 C is neet koud. Ik vindt het lekker!

Wel te rustig! (echte, niet zoals "OxGas")
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Gro:

Just saw your post but will put mine up anyway :)

Quoting JeffMasters:
Regarding Antarctic temperatures, the latest revision of the historical data is interesting:

Glad to see y'all are passionate about the truth--just keep it respectful, we are all doing the best we can!

Jeff Masters




http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/on-warming-antarctica-clouds-and-peer-revi ew/

The Doc made an intervention this afternoon. Dessler is an important paper and is mentioned in the link (somebody was flaming Levi over his AGW convictions... thus the call for civility).

I had asked AA about it before the Christmas season.
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Quoting EnergyMoron:


Aggie (Dessler) paper

He's an aggie.

Actually, AtomAggie has the education best suited to critique this paper.

A very important question (which I think Dessler didn't answer, despite claims). the whole thing about how much human induced warming is going to occur is basically determined by what is called the cloud feedback.

Koud... nee. In halve uur 0.3 C en het is nu 3.5 C... boven nul ik denk.

Of michien niet.



If you go back to post #203, Dr. Masters posted a link about that very subject. There have been a number of scientist with different approaches to that very subject, that are coming into agreement. It is a wordy piece, but interesting. If you have the time go look at it.

Ik geef om niet die wat u zegt, is het koud. LOL
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Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Sorry, cannot reveal. Because I don't remember!
Dang!.But hey atleast it stands out!!
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Every few days another catastrophe documented. Previous blog it was bleaching of the reefs. This time it's unprecendented flooding in Australia. Record high temps over the globe all summer and into the fall. Massive oil spill in the Gulf and we stand by, point fingers, and act as if the scientists documenting all this are full of profit motives. At least they're talking about beefing up regulation on offshore drilling and trying to make it apolitical. I've had it with the politization of environmental policy.
Anyway, thanks for the compliment Grothar. I hope to live long enough to see the foolish, shortsighted irresponsibility come to an end. Still, think there are worse times ahead. Environmentally and socially, politically and economically.
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Kindle?

Afraid i am in nearly the dark ages on that technology thing (hey gro...)
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Hey, now, I'm not the only one here with a degree related to the field...

*yawn, stretch*
G'Nite, all


Yah, but you work in the area of interpretation of sat data and also are... an aggie.
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Ok Guys, what about this NEAR EARTH ASTROID....that's what our local is calling this lightning streak seen by practically everyone in the state about 8:48 tonight here in Ms. I saw it, was like the entire sky lit up with lightning....and there was a booming sound with it.
No I'm not crazy......I dont think......lol..
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Quoting Chicklit:
Hi Grothar, wie gehts?


Don't know why we don't talk much anymore. You're one of the few people with whom I agree the most. LOL Everything is going quite well. Just waiting for Winter to end. Hope you had a good holiday.
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Quoting EnergyMoron:
Actually, AtomAggie has the education best suited to critique this paper.
Hey, now, I'm not the only one here with a degree related to the field...

*yawn, stretch*
G'Nite, all
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Quoting Grothar:


Hoe gaat het? Het zal koud opnieuw zijn.

Don't want to interrupt, but who is Dessler?


Aggie (Dessler) paper

He's an aggie.

Actually, AtomAggie has the education best suited to critique this paper.

A very important question (which I think Dessler didn't answer, despite claims). the whole thing about how much human induced warming is going to occur is basically determined by what is called the cloud feedback.

Koud... nee. In halve uur 0.3 C en het is nu 3.5 C... boven nul ik denk.

Of michien niet.

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Quoting EnergyMoron:


May he/she RIP.
Thanks.

Hey, you ever hear anything about the journal publishers putting articles out for Kindle? How cool would it be to download and read any AMS or AGU article on Kindle? (Provided that color wasn't important in plots, I guess).
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Hi Grothar, wie gehts?
I see they're still doing the bully bully over the global warming as if it were still a debate. That's the joke.
Everyone knows there's something out of whack going on. I suspect it will continue to get worse.
What we're experiencing here in the southeast is dry air, as you know, and have been for months.
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Quoting Chicklit:
Good evening.

The ocean waters surrounding Australia were the warmest on record during 2010, and these exceptionally warm waters allowed much higher amounts of water vapor to evaporate into the atmosphere, helping fuel the heavy rains.
The record warm ocean temperatures were due to a combination of global warming and the moderate to strong La Ni�a event that has been in place since July.

Dr. Jeff Masters


Hey, Chicklit!
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Yeah, my holidays didn't allow for any reading whatsoever...nor blogging.

Lost a grandparental unit on the 23rd. Then got surprise tickets to the Cotton Bowl.

Prolly put 4000 miles on vehicles since Dec 20, easily, as a result.


May he/she RIP.
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Good evening.

The ocean waters surrounding Australia were the warmest on record during 2010, and these exceptionally warm waters allowed much higher amounts of water vapor to evaporate into the atmosphere, helping fuel the heavy rains.
The record warm ocean temperatures were due to a combination of global warming and the moderate to strong La Nina event that has been in place since July.


Dr. Jeff Masters
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Quoting EnergyMoron:


Good evening AA... still interested in your take on Dessler (mine is 362)


Hoe gaat het? Het zal koud opnieuw zijn.

Don't want to interrupt, but who is Dessler?
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Quoting EnergyMoron:


Good evening AA... still interested in your take on Dessler (mine is 362)
Yeah, my holidays didn't allow for any reading whatsoever...nor blogging.

Lost a grandparental unit on the 23rd. Then got surprise tickets to the Cotton Bowl.

Prolly put 4000 miles on vehicles since Dec 20, easily, as a result.
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G'night all,...

Trey Bier,,

2 Mack-O's please,,the Old Guys buying.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Yup, some 20s...not terrible cold. Not sweating, for a change.


Good evening AA... still interested in your take on Dessler (mine is 362)
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Yup, some 20s...not terrible cold. Not sweating, for a change.


We should have a another cold front coming our way again, down to the 20's inland and 30's on the coast.
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382. Skyepony (Mod)
TRMM pretty much missed Vania.
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Quoting Grothar:


Like in "OLD". Where you been lurking, atmo. Three fights on here tonight and you weren't in any of them.....slipping. Getting cold up your way again, I hear.
Yup, some 20s...not terrible cold. Not sweating, for a change.
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Quoting Patrap:



Ty Big N Sho bro..

I've been ordered to cease and desist and retire to da wunderland Upstairs.



Better hurry. Have a good one, bro! Thanks for being there!!!
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Quoting NttyGrtty:
Bueller? Anybody? Any station, new antennae radio check?
Wassup, n-g?
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Quoting atmoaggie:
That's right, a fellow goat....happy b-day


Like in "OLD". Where you been lurking, atmo. Three fights on here tonight and you weren't in any of them.....slipping. Getting cold up your way again, I hear.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
That's right, a fellow goat....happy b-day



Ty Big N Sho bro..

I've been ordered to cease and desist and retire to da wunderland Upstairs.

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Quoting Patrap:
One day Grothar will be able to tell the real reason why Moses wasnt allowed into the Promised Land.

Me..I know,,but cant say entirely till I get the Mayans inbound message next Jan 15th at 12Z.

But Alms and Idols were involved.

That's right, a fellow goat....happy b-day
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Quoting washingtonian115:
I see you've came out of your cave j/k.Anyway did you catch some of the snow?.


Unfortunately, no. Not even any sleet to speak of.
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Quoting Patrap:
Transport.

Mode of travel: USS Raleigh. LPD-1

Keel Laid June 1960 Gro,,my Birth Year.


Tromso was so beautiful..
But the Ferry ride was COLD.

USS Raleigh thru the years.


Now she rest a reef for da fishes as she was decommissioned and retired to Davy Jones Locker.

I creep da Kids out in BAd Weather wit dat un..still.

Arrrrghhhhhhhh....!








Look familiar. Just click on the properties.

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Quoting Neapolitan:

Broken record? Would that be something like posting the exact same graph over and over and over and over hoping that it will suddenly start showing the cooling it so stubbornly refuses to, the cooling contrarians having been calling for and hoping for for years even as the planet has continued to warm? Something like that? ;-)

At any rate, my friend, if you're going to post something on a public site, you really have no right to ask those who disagree with your assumptions not to respond. If you want only fellow contrarians to comment on your posts, you should instead use WU mail. Failing that, of course, you're certainly free to put me on ignore. (hint, hint)


Again you prove my point, as expected.

For the rest of you.

I really don't like smart phones, as exemplified by my response to the continued BS, but they are soon to replace your PC's and home entertainment needs. Get ready, its coming fast :)



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Quoting Patrap:
Transport.

Mode of travel: USS Raleigh. LPD-1

Keel Laid June 1960 Gro,,my Birth Year.


Tromso was so beautiful..
But the Ferry ride was COLD.

USS Raleigh thru the years.


Now she rest a reef for da fishes as she was decommissioned and retired to Davy Jones Locker.

I creep da Kids out in BAd Weather wit dat un..still.

Arrrrghhhhhhhh....!








Remember her well.. and the Yellowstone.
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Transport.

Mode of travel: USS Raleigh. LPD-1

Keel Laid June 1960 Gro,,my Birth Year.


Tromso was so beautiful..
But the Ferry ride was COLD.

USS Raleigh thru the years.


Now she rest a reef for da fishes as she was decommissioned and retired to Davy Jones Locker.

I creep da Kids out in BAd Weather wit dat un..still.

Arrrrghhhhhhhh....!






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Quoting Ossqss:


Dude, you really need to get back into the workforce. Sorry, but you are a broken record of, I know better than you, over and over again. I am starting to feel sorry for you and really should not. Nuf said.

gnight



I think what you are trying to say is that Neo is a legend in his own mind.



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Quoting Patrap:


A real TEAM with a Lot of WORK one could say..

LOL

Saw dem .






So, you were there!!!! HA. Only you could have finished the slash on that. LOL
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Quoting Grothar:


Yeah, a real "United Effort" wasn't it. I posted some images of the auroras a few weeks back, did you see them?


A real TEAM with a Lot of WORK one could say..

LOL

Saw dem .




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Quoting Patrap:
Spring of 84,,above the Arctic circle is and remains the coldest season in me Life.

But dem Artic Aurora's was worth the Atlantic Boat ride..!


Yeah, a real "United Effort" wasn't it. I posted some images of the auroras a few weeks back, did you see them?
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Baaaahhhh!!!!!!

I'll experiment on my blog to determine the best resolution.

I think that one was the worst!
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Quoting Ossqss:


Dude, you really need to get back into the workforce. Sorry, but you are a broken record of, I know better than you, over and over again. I am starting to feel sorry for you and really should not. Nuf said.

gnight

Broken record? Would that be something like posting the exact same graph over and over and over and over hoping that it will suddenly start showing the cooling it so stubbornly refuses to, the cooling contrarians having been calling for and hoping for for years even as the planet has continued to warm? Something like that? ;-)

At any rate, my friend, when you post something on a public site, you've basically given up the right to ask those who disagree with you not to respond to it. If you want only fellow contrarians to comment on your posts, you should instead use WU mail. Failing that, of course, you're certainly free to put me on ignore. (hint, hint)
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One last test. I know, I know, need to do this on my own blog to determine how to get the best resolution.

Image removed. Worse.
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Quoting Patrap:
Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change 11-17-08


I was actually going to use this anyway...

Original Dessler paper

My view is the answer is 2 +/- 2. Could be 4, could be 0.

The Dessler paper is classic.

0.02 correlation coefficient. Um....

I agree with Dessler on Spencer's work to a certain extent... blaming temperature changes on clouds is not intuitive.

But (and on RealClimate I see that a certain Eli made the same point and Dessler did not respond)...

Trade winds influence clouds

So, there is a problem with the statistics. Dessler is saying that temperature is the "cause" whereas the "cause" of the temperature change is the variation in tradewinds, which also impact the clouds.

So, while rejecting the argument of Spencer it does look like the spectral analysis is picking up something...

Hypothesis: could this something be the impact of the trade wind variations on clouds? What is the lag between impact of sea temperatures and clouds? Doesn't seem reasonable to be on the order of months... so I don't know what the spectral stuff is picking up. But then again I don't know.

On the other hand, I can be "unbiased" (and ignorant) and simply say since I don't know about the influence of tradewinds on clouds assume no impact. But that is the old there are lies, darned lies, and statistics.

All this dogmatic talk with such a high level of uncertainty is unwarranted.

2% correlation coefficient?

We don't know.

I am nothing but an ignorant donkey.
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Evening all. We've had an interesting day weather wise. At Nas Int'l Airport, flights were delayed until after 8:30 a.m. because of fog. This is the first island-wide fog that was not connected with a fire in literally years. This evening we've been reporting misty conditions, though not sufficient to obscure driving.


hiya baha..

.. the Miss River round the Audubon Bend just round the corner here can really Fog over this time of year.






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Quoting Grothar:


No, not that 1984, Pat & I were occupied...elsewhere. Still working on your son's car. Used to like to tinker, but gave it up a long time ago. Now when someone pops their hood I give a long look and just say.....MMMMMMM, interesting.



LOL. I hear you. Saw Pat's ref. as well. Sounds like a great trip.


I love the Aurora's. An awesome sight to behold!
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Quoting washingtonian115:
HB-D!!!.And is Don'tAnnoyMe in the building.I always wanted to ask how he got his name.At least it's original.


Sorry, cannot reveal. Because I don't remember!
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358. JRRP
Quoting Levi32:


It's not the global average temperature itself but the temperature distribution that is most important regarding the hurricane season. The pattern that will evolve during the latter part of this winter is still in the making.

is true
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