Dangerous winter storm slams South, heads to New England; Indiana sets snow record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:14 PM GMT on January 10, 2011

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A powerful winter storm has brought heavy snow and dangerous amounts of freezing rain to much of the South, in a swath stretching from northeastern Texas to southern North Carolina. The storm began Sunday in Texas, then tracked almost due east, bringing snow amounts of 8 - 11 inches to southern Arkansas, northern Mississippi, northern Alabama, and southern Tennessee. As of 9am CST, the heaviest snow amounts as reported in the NOAA Storm Summary were 11 inches at Lawrenceburg, TN and 10 inches at Baldwyn, MS. The worst freezing rain was reported in central Georgia at Fort Valley, where 3/4" of ice had accumulated. Texarkana, Arkansas, had 1/2" of ice. Freezing rain amounts of 1/4 inch were also reported over much of northern Louisiana, central Alabama, and central Mississippi. A nasty mix of up to four inches of snow, sleet, and freezing rain hit the Atlanta, Georgia area, causing the cancellation of thousands of flights at the world's busiest airport. The storm will bring an additional 2 - 6 inches of snow to eastern Tennessee, central South Carolina, and central North Carolina today, with significant freezing rain possible in northern Georgia and portions of North and South Carolina. Below-freezing temperatures are expected to remain over the region through Wednesday morning, resulting in a long period of dangerous travel conditions.

Major Nor'easter expected for New York City and Boston
Today's snow storm is expected to push off the coast of North Carolina tonight, then "bomb" into a classic Nor'easter off the coast of New England on Tuesday and Wednesday. Up to a foot of snow is possible for New York City, Boston, and coastal Connecticut and Rhode Island beginning on Tuesday night. The Nor'easter will not be as intense as the December 26 blizzard, however. The winds from the new storm are expected to remain less than 35 mph, resulting in only minor coastal flooding and an absence of blizzard conditions (winds in excess of 35 mph and visibility less than 1/4 mile.)

South Bend nearly sets all-time Indiana snowfall record
An epic lake effect snow storm hit South Bend, Indiana Friday and Saturday, burying the city under a remarkable 36.6" of snow. It was the heaviest two-day snow storm in South Bend's history, breaking a record that had stood since 1909 (a 29" snow storm on January 30 - 31.) The 32.6" that fell in a 24-hour period between 4pm EST 1/7 and 4pm EST 1/8 came just 0.4" short of matching Indiana's heaviest 24-hour snow storm on record. Indiana's heaviest 24-hour snow event was the 33.0" that fell at Salem in December 2004, according to wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt.


Figure 1. Snow from Saturday's record lake effect snow storm in South Bend, Indiana piles up. Photo by slowhiker.

While the current snow event is over, new snows are expected in South Bend beginning Wednesday, when a renewed strong northwesterly flow of air off of Lake Michigan will develop in the wake of the strong winter storm currently pounding the Southern U.S. Another 8+ inches of snow may fall in the South Bend area in the new storm.


Figure 2. True color satellite image of the South Bend, Indiana lake effect snow storm of Saturday, January 8, 2010 at 1:45pm EST. A well-defined band of heavy snow developed over Lake Michigan and anchored itself over South Bend, giving the city its heaviest snow storm on record. Image credit: NASA.

Jeff Masters

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190. Jedkins01
11:41 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting MichaelSTL:


Seems like many people here have that problem.


you almost have a heart attack about Global Warming, and you aren't a scientist, please don't give me B.S.
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189. PcolaDan
11:41 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Can Hurricanes Trigger Earthquakes?
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187. kellnerp
11:41 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting calusakat:



What you are suggesting flys in the face of the laws of physics.

The laws of physics includes conduction, convection and radiation. In each case heat flows from hotter to colder as expected. On a still night with no cloud cover the heat transfer coefficient to the air is very low, but the upper atmosphere if very cold. When the surface is exposed to a very cold upper atmosphere heat will flow by radiation.

You can prove this by pointing an infrared thermometer skyward on a morning when there is frost. You will get -50 to -60F which means surfaces can freeze when the still air temperature is above freezing.

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186. Jedkins01
11:39 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting calusakat:


Not really, you simply misunderstood him, that is all.

I didn't write the laws of physics, they are what they are.

For you to suggest the laws of physics are otherwise, doesn't make it so.

Time for some remedial reading until you understand your error.




Link

As I said, simple basic, meteorology, if you don't understand it, then just stop talking please, for the good of us all
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185. Grothar
11:39 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Jedkins01:


Or, you don't understand physics very well, seriously instead of science fiction, you should start looking into science. What I stated is just basic understanding learned in meteorology class. Last I checked, you don't have the authority to to prove otherwise.


I have to agree with you 100%. Anybody who ever cooked a sauce, knows that to taste it, you blow on it to cool it off. (Same principle as your fan explanation.) Any good Italian tastes their sauce at least 20 times before serving it. LOL (I can say that because I am part Italian) Radiation my >>> You are correct in your observation, Jed.
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183. kellnerp
11:33 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting presslord:
OK...one of you experts please help me out here...Does the water/ice on the roads and bridges 'feel' the wind chill temp? Or the actual temp? For us here, the difference will be between relief and misery...

Wind chill primarily effects naked people. It is the perceived temperature on bare flesh. If you are bundled up in the proper clothing the temperature and wind have little effect. Consider that snowmobilers regularly operate in an open cockpit at speeds of 80mph with little effect.

Of course wind will increase the transfer of heat from any stationary surface and there is evaporation even at subzero temperatures which is why my mother used to hang laundry in the winter. It froze and then got dry. It was easy to tell when it was dry because it flapped instead of acting like a stiff board.

Wind chill can't freeze a road if the temperature is above zero and all else is equal. On the other had, with still air and no clouds, a road or bridge can freeze even with temperatures above freezing due to radiation from hotter (33F) to cooler (-50F) in the stratosphere.
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182. Jedkins01
11:32 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting calusakat:


Not really, you simply misunderstood him, that is all.

I didn't write the laws of physics, they are what they are. For you to suggest otherwise, doesn't make it so.




Or, you don't understand physics very well, seriously instead of science fiction, you should start looking into science. What I stated is just basic understanding learned in meteorology class. Last I checked, you don't have the authority to to prove otherwise.
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181. hurricanelonny
11:28 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Cochise111:
UK Met office under fire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8248146/The-Met-Office-fries-while- the-rest-of-the-world-freezes.html

I don't think we do much better here. On long range forecasts. I think the Farmers Almanac does better then the NWS.
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180. calusakat
11:27 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Jedkins01:



Accept the fact my professor taught me that, oh darn, you really are full of your self, aren't you?


Not really, you simply misunderstood him, that is all.

I didn't write the laws of physics, they are what they are.

For you to suggest the laws of physics are otherwise, doesn't make it so.

Time for some remedial reading until you understand your error.


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179. Jedkins01
11:26 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting calusakat:


Please, whatever you do. Do not go to your professor with this discussion.

He would likely consider reducing your grade if he got wind of your erroneous dogmatic proclamations.





Accept the fact my professor taught me that, oh darn, you really are full of your self, aren't you?
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178. Jedkins01
11:24 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting calusakat:



What you are suggesting flys in the face of the laws of physics.

If I can cool an object quicker with a fan, then cooling also occurs outside. Radiation of heat energy does not cease simply because of a wind blowing over it.

You need to go back to your books and re-read what is actually happening. You are confused as to what is actually happening.







Seriously, go back to school, you are dead wrong, you don't know the laws of physics yourself I guess.
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177. Grothar
11:20 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
is someone asking for a shaker on the madrid line


Shudder the thought!
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176. calusakat
11:20 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Ok, I see. What causes the New Madrid to have more cracks? Does this mean a major quake would be more wide spread and less deep?



Years ago, a scientist described it as the 'ringing of a bell'. With less cracks, the earthquake would resonate longer and stronger (louder).



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175. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
11:18 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Grothar:


However, the area remains seismically active. The reason earthquakes in that area are felt over a larger area, is that while California has frequent earthquakes, the underlying rock is much more fractured, less so on the rest of the country. The cracks break up the energy which pass through. However, since there is less fracturing of the land on the central and east coast, the energy is able to travel much further. That is why a large earthquakes in the midwest could be felt in a larger area.
is someone asking for a shaker on the madrid line
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174. Levi32
11:13 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Invest 93P southeast of Vanuatu: (center position as analyzed by the Fiji Meteorological Service)

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173. TampaFLUSA
11:03 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Ok, I see. What causes the New Madrid to have more cracks? Does this mean a major quake would be more wide spread and less deep?
Less cracks. It was felt from Chicago to Boston.
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172. EYEStoSEA
11:01 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Grothar:


However, the area remains seismically active. The reason earthquakes in that area are felt over a larger area, is that while California has frequent earthquakes, the underlying rock is much more fractured, less so on the rest of the country. The cracks break up the energy which pass through. However, since there is less fracturing of the land on the central and east coast, the energy is able to travel much further. That is why a large earthquakes in the midwest could be felt in a larger area.


Ok, I see. What causes the New Madrid to have more cracks? Does this mean a major quake would be more wide spread and less deep?
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171. GeoffreyWPB
10:58 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Miami NWS Discussion
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170. Grothar
10:45 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Well now, thank ya , young man, I will sleep better tonight. I can buy that explanation...I think...lol :-)


However, the area remains seismically active. The reason earthquakes in that area are felt over a larger area, is that while California has frequent earthquakes, the underlying rock is much more fractured, less so on the rest of the country. The cracks break up the energy which pass through. However, since there is less fracturing of the land on the central and east coast, the energy is able to travel much further. That is why a large earthquakes in the midwest could be felt in a larger area.
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169. IKE
10:41 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Correct....it is the same attorney.
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168. belizeit
10:41 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Down to the tropics ! Tomorrow we are supposed to get rain after a 38 day dry spell . The gfs is pulling the Panamanian low over us in the next couple of days and we could be getting drenched . I hope not to much rain to drown the cropsLink
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167. GeoffreyWPB
10:39 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting IKE:
The nutjob that killed innocent people. They should simply execute him ASAP....save the taxpayers the money...

My thoughts are he will plea out as to not receive the death penalty...I believe his attorney is the same one who defended the Unabomber.
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166. WXTXN
10:36 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting RitaEvac:
Hawaii


Flying to Maui tomorrow hopfully the Kona will blow that rain away before I land...
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165. WXTXN
10:35 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting RitaEvac:
Hawaii

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164. IKE
10:35 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
....
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163. NRAamy
10:34 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
cough
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161. RitaEvac
10:30 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
test
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160. RitaEvac
10:26 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Hawaii

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159. NRAamy
10:25 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Groth was neighbors with Fred Flintstone.... he was a viking, right?
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158. NRAamy
10:17 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
GROTH!!!!!
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157. Grothar
10:15 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting NRAamy:
no one is older than Groth....


AMY!!
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156. hydrus
10:14 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Grothar:


Never been to Norway, have you? LOL
No...I heard the get the occasional flurry or two....;0
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155. EYEStoSEA
10:13 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Grothar:


I wouldn't call it "rickety", but they have had trouble with that station for a while. It is an extremely sensitive unit they have there. Over the past few years, there have been "swarms" of activity reported in the area, and many people are of the opinion that the government is hiding info. (I do not believe that for a minute). There are too many people involved with these monitoring stations (world-wide) Sometimes instrumentation is off and they have to re-calibrate them, as on any type of monitoring equipment. (just ask atmoaggie)


Well now, thank ya , young man, I will sleep better tonight. I can buy that explanation...I think...lol :-)
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154. Grothar
10:10 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I hope the awful weather you are experiencing in your neck of the woods improves.


Thanks, these 70's are getting old.
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153. Grothar
10:09 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting hydrus:
We got a lot of snow here on the plateau, in fact, we are snowed in. Both vans are stuck in the driveway..The most snow I have ever seen..


Never been to Norway, have you? LOL
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152. RitaEvac
10:08 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Temps in the low 80s in South Texas and 10s in the panhandle
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151. GeoffreyWPB
10:07 PM GMT on January 10, 2011
Quoting Grothar:


What are you trying to do, Geoff, rub it in that you live in beautiful South Florida and the rest of us have to suffer?


I hope the awful weather you are experiencing in your neck of the woods improves.
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Well Grothar, old buddy, I'm just interested in the activity going on with that Helicorder at Truman Ar. How reliable are those seismegraphs and why is that one so " rickety" ?


I wouldn't call it "rickety", but they have had trouble with that station for a while. It is an extremely sensitive unit they have there. Over the past few years, there have been "swarms" of activity reported in the area, and many people are of the opinion that the government is hiding info. (I do not believe that for a minute). There are too many people involved with these monitoring stations (world-wide) Sometimes instrumentation is off and they have to re-calibrate them, as on any type of monitoring equipment. (just ask atmoaggie)
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Quoting Grothar:


YO! How's it going, hydrus. Made it through another year here.
We got a lot of snow here on the plateau, in fact, we are snowed in. Both vans are stuck in the driveway..The most snow I have ever seen..
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Looks like another possible plunge of arctic air early next week
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Quoting hydrus:
.Before the stuff that made the Big Bang possible....lol......Oh, hello Grothar...:)


YO! How's it going, hydrus. Made it through another year here.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Overcast, but very nice day here in Lake Worth. Upcoming 6-days look very nice also:



What are you trying to do, Geoff, rub it in that you live in beautiful South Florida and the rest of us have to suffer?
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Quoting presslord:
Yes...Grothar can give first hand accounts...going all the way back to the Big Bang...
.Before the stuff that made the Big Bang possible....lol......Oh, hello Grothar...:)
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Well Grothar, old buddy, I'm just interested in the activity going on with that Helicorder at Truman Ar. How reliable are those seismegraphs and why is that one so " rickety" ?
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no one is older than Groth....
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142. IKE
Cold this afternoon here in the Florida panhandle....

WZEP AM 1460 DeFuniak Springs, FL, DeFuniak Springs, Florida (PWS)
Updated: 3 sec ago
39.5 F
Overcast

Windchill: 40 F
Humidity: 94%
Dew Point: 38 F
Wind: 0.0 mph
Wind Gust: 9.0 mph
Pressure: 30.00 in (Steady)
Visibility: 8.0 miles
UV: 1 out of 16
Pollen: .60 out of 12
Pollen Forecast new!
Clouds: Overcast 600 ft
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 174 ft

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Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Thing is, I think I'm probably " OLDER than Grothar !!!!!!!!


Sorry, but I don't think that is possible. LOL
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Quoting washingtonian115:
The more snow storms I see pass D.C and give us wimpy amounts,the more angery I get.Yeah your probally going to ask..."Well what's up with that crazy broad?".And I'm going to reply......I'm tired of this F***ing wimpy snow amonts!!!.I'm having snow fever!!!.All I want is a good 6 plus inch snow event and I'll be fine.But noooooooo,everything wants to miss us this winter.And I tired of it.I want a huge snow storm .Point blank.The wimpy snow storms are starting to get to me,and I'm losing my mind.I WANT SNOW GREATER THAN 5 INCHES.That's all I want.There.
You are funny 115....The only thing I found other than the current system is this one a couple weeks out...
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