Massive flooding in Australia cuts off city of 75,000

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:52 PM GMT on January 03, 2011

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The arrival of the new year has brought continued misery to northeast Australia, where unprecedented flooding continues in the wake of weeks of torrential rains. The floods have killed at least ten people and covered an area the size of France and Germany combined, cutting off the coastal city of Rockhampton. Today, the military was forced to fly in food, water, and other supplies into Rockhampton, a city of 75,000, due to the lack of unflooded roads into the city. The local airport, all access roads, and all rail lines into the city are closed. The flooding has affected at least 21 other towns, and 200,000 people in northeast Australia. Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard stated last week, "Some communities are seeing flood waters higher than they've seen in decades, and for some communities flood waters have never reached these levels before [in] the time that we have been recording floods." According to the National Climatic Data Center, springtime in Australia (September - November) had precipitation 125% of normal--the wettest spring in the country since records began 111 years ago. Some sections of coastal Queensland received over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain from September through November. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. The heavy rains are due, in part, to the moderate to strong La Niña event that has been in place since July. The relatively warm waters that accumulate off the northeast coast of Australia during a La Niña typically cause heavy rains over Queensland.


Figure 1. Comparison of river conditions in Queensland from today to December 30, 2010. While some rivers have fallen below major flood stage, the Fitzroy River at Rockhampton is rising, and may peak at levels not seen since 1918 on Wednesday. Image credit: Australian Bureau of Meteorology.


Figure 2. Rainfall in Queensland, Australia for December, 2010. Image credit: Australian Bureau of Meteorology.

The rains over Queensland continued yesterday and today, with many of the flooded regions receiving 1/2 - 1 inch (about 12 - 25 mm) of rain. Total rainfall amounts in the flood region over the past month are generally in the 16 - 24 inch range (400 - 600 mm). Predicted rainfall amounts for the next two days in the flooded region are less than 1/2 inch (12 mm), which should allow for river levels to peak by Tuesday or Wednesday, then slowly fall. However, heavy rains are predicted to affect the area again by Thursday, and it may be several weeks before the summer rains ease enough to allow all of Queensland's rivers to retreat below flood stage. Damage to infrastructure in Australia has been estimated at over $1 billion by the government, and economists have estimated the Australian economy will suffer an additional $6 billion in damage over the coming months due to reduced exports, according to insurance company AIR Worldwide. Queensland is Australia's top coal-producing state, and coal mining and delivery operations are being severely hampered by the flooding. Damage to agriculture is currently estimated at $400 million, and is expected to rise.

Jeff Masters

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463. Skyepony (Mod)
The take over by jellyfish has begun..

Thousands of purple jellyfish have bloomed earlier than usual and a few days ago swarmed the coastal area around Marsalforn and Xwejni bay in Gozo. The bloom consisted of thousands of mature mauve stinger (Pelagia noctiluca) individuals and according to marine biologist Alan Deidun is a clear sign the Mediterranean sea is warming. “Blooms for this species would normally start towards late autumn in the warmer waters off north Africa, making their appearance further north in Maltese waters towards mid-winter, in February,” he explained. Their early presence could be indicative of the unstoppable warming of the Mediterranean Sea, whose temperature rose by as much as 0.5˚C since 2002 at least in the western half of the basin, he said. Dr Deidun is investigating the dynamics of jellyfish blooms in Maltese waters at the University’s international ocean institute. The institute has conducted an intensive jellyfish spotting campaign – Spot the Jellyfish – which will continue throughout 2011, led by Aldo Drago. The mauve stinger is a highly versatile species and can tolerate sea temperatures of between eight and 22 degrees, delaying its release of miniature jellyfish until optimal environmental conditions are found. Until 1998, Pelagia blooms occurred every 12 years and had an average duration of four years. However, they became more common due to climate change, overfishing and coastal urbanisation and discharges, Dr Deidun said.
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Oh,and did I forget to mention the ignore button?.Yes I did.That also helps.
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Gulp.The trolls will be back very soon.So that means trouble.It's almost been 24 hours since they came back.So here are some steps to ignore them(looks at KOTG)

1.Silenty press the report button.You don't need to annouce it.

2.Ignore them as though it was another empty space.Remember they love the attention,and focus.

3.Do not post signs or pictures of a troll or troll attack(looks at KOTG)it will only make it worse.

4.Talk about weather or something on topic.Have a conversaion with the non-troll bloggers

5.Once the troll relizes that they are compleaty ignored/getting no attention or reponses they will go away.

6.Or read comments from bloggers that are discussing the same topic as you,or one you know you can trsut/follow.

If you follow these steps it will help stop alot of drama/fights.And make the blog a safer place to comment/come.
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460. Skyepony (Mod)
Motorists stopped and gawked at hundreds of dead red-winged blackbirds on a highway in Pointe Coupee Parish, La., Monday, just days after residents of Beebe, Ark., saw more than 1,000 birds fall from the sky on New Year's Eve. On Monday, state biologists were gathering up some of the approximately 500 blackbirds and starlings that lay dead along Louisiana Route 1 near Pointe Coupee Central High School for testing. The United States Geological Survey has noted 16 incidents in the past 30 years where more than 1,000 black birds have died at the same time, usually the result of tightly-packed flocks flying into bad weather. What's more, more than 5 billion birds die of natural causes in the United States each year, so it is, in a way, unusual that Americans don't witness more major bird kills. Yet the use of improved testing and a state of heightened concern on the parts of state ornithologists is a proper response, even if the two bird kills had not come so close together, experts say. "Birds can be really good indicators of environmental problems, so I'd hate to think that 5,000 would die and nobody would care," says Greg Butcher, director of bird conservation at the National Audobon Society, in Washington. "It's worth investigation to find out what happened because there is potentially something we should worry about and it's potentially something that has an odd, but benign cause." Americans have theorized that everything from fallout from secret government weapons testing to UFO collisions downed the birds in Arkansas. But the newly-discovered bird rain in Louisiana is likely to focus more serious attention to the plight of blackbirds now bundled in winter flocks that can number over 100,000 birds. Postmortem tests of birds in the Arkansas incident showed evidence of blunt force trauma to many of the victims, which Mr. Butcher says means that it's likely the birds were spooked by New Year's Eve fireworks and may, in mass confusion, have run into cars and houses. Since blackbirds are considered a nuisance by farmers, the mass death in Louisiana could be attributable to a legal pest control effort. Pest control experts kill blackbird roosts in several ways, including spraying water on birds to induce hypothermia or by using legal poisons. Most such poisons work quickly, but a botched control attempt could mean that birds may have flown away from the roost and died nearby.
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97% of published climate scientists believe global warming is "very likely" due to humans:




97% of Japaneese Eye Doctors have "Cataracts".


The other three percent have "Rinkin Continentals."
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I can tell you this, I have seen the leaves totally stripped from the huge live oaks and sawtooth acorn trees in my own back acreage by hail...now we know the redwings and other birds take refuge from storms in the remaining trees with leaves. Is it not logical to believe that it could have been hail?
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Question on the bird thing.

Was there lightning in the area at that time EDIT, or fireworks?

Could the trauma have come from close proximity to lightning and its forces of pressure and sound?

Could a close bolt have stunned them into a fall.

They have very thin bone structures/

Just sayin~ if ya pass out, what happens?

Noise can be much more potent under certain atmospheric conditions. Think of how some of the Cetaceans stun their prey ?

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Quoting TampaFLUSA:
That is definitely a possibility. But what about S Louisiana?


I have to stir the pot on this lol. Have you ever taken a trip down river road, say from Baton Rouge to New Orleans? It is refineries for miles there. (not saying that caused it) I just thought I would start some well, u know! lol
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Quoting xcool:
NEXT WEEK: Another short wave will keep a chance of light rain going into Monday, and then things get interesting as that nasty 1065 mb high drops southward out of the Yukon region. Watch the Weather Xtreme video, and you will see that temperatures this afternoon are as cold as -52 F in the Arctic, and I would expect to see some readings down to -60 F in coming days up there as the Siberian Express loads up for the trip south.

Brutally cold air will flood much of the nation next week, with a hard freeze possible all the way down to the lower Rio Grande Valley of South Texas, where they are talking about the McFarland Signature already (listen to this week’s WeatherBrains for more about this).

It remains to be see how cold it gets here in Alabama, but it is safe to say we will be very cold in the January 12-16 time frame, with potential for single digits lows along the way with sub-freezing highs. It also remains to be seen if we have an overrunning event that would bring the potential for an ice storm here. Watch the Weather Xtreme video, and you will see the GFS hints at snow for Houston, New Orleans, Mobile, and Gulf Shores around January 13, with nothing up this way. Again, this is all voodoo.

Growers, industries, and utilities need to be prepared for a multiple day stretch of very cold weather next week; we will be much more specific in a few days as the airmass gets closer to us
http://www.alabamawx.com/

1989 all over again.
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454. xcool
NEXT WEEK: Another short wave will keep a chance of light rain going into Monday, and then things get interesting as that nasty 1065 mb high drops southward out of the Yukon region. Watch the Weather Xtreme video, and you will see that temperatures this afternoon are as cold as -52 F in the Arctic, and I would expect to see some readings down to -60 F in coming days up there as the Siberian Express loads up for the trip south.

Brutally cold air will flood much of the nation next week, with a hard freeze possible all the way down to the lower Rio Grande Valley of South Texas, where they are talking about the McFarland Signature already (listen to this week’s WeatherBrains for more about this).

It remains to be see how cold it gets here in Alabama, but it is safe to say we will be very cold in the January 12-16 time frame, with potential for single digits lows along the way with sub-freezing highs. It also remains to be seen if we have an overrunning event that would bring the potential for an ice storm here. Watch the Weather Xtreme video, and you will see the GFS hints at snow for Houston, New Orleans, Mobile, and Gulf Shores around January 13, with nothing up this way. Again, this is all voodoo.

Growers, industries, and utilities need to be prepared for a multiple day stretch of very cold weather next week; we will be much more specific in a few days as the airmass gets closer to us
http://www.alabamawx.com/

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Quoting goosegirl1:
Neapolitan- (and everyone else, o'course) I have been lurking, usually during the winter to get storm info as I live far enough inland to miss the worst of the hurricanes. I keep following your posts on climate change, and thinking we need to get together and tip a few beers sometime- we agree upon most subjects, and I think we'd have a lot to talk about. NO, I'm not a stalker, but you quoted my favorite non-fiction author and one of his best works. All humans have a lot to think about, and a lot to live up to. We are merely a few billion parisites on the back of the great Mother... and she may get tired of us sometime soon. Just where do we propose to go, if we insist upon collapsing the ecosystem that has evolved for 4.5 billion years to reach an equilibrium that just happens to support us and eveything else?

Bryson is great, and one of my favorites, too. I really enjoy his books on language--I've only read The Mother Tongue about a hundred times--but his few science books are amazing--and the one from which I quoted is his best, IMHO.

And you're sadly correct: we humans are merely a few billion parasites on this planet, and we're definitely wearing out our welcome. Blinded by religion or ideology or simple complacency, we've convinced ourselves that we've always been here and always will be...when nothing could be further from the truth. And as to where else we might go that's in our personal just-right "Goldilocks Zone", the answer is nowhere anytime soon. No, if we succeed in making this one uninhabitable for us, that's the end.

But a few beers before that happens sound great. ;-)
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IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD FRIDAY THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE END OF
THE WEEK INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND LOOK COOLER AND DRIER BUT
CERTAINLY NOT AS COLD AS THE DECEMBER FRONTS WITH THIS AIR MASS
BEING OF PACIFIC ORIGIN TAPPING INTO SOME ARCTIC AIR RATHER THAN A
PURELY MODIFIED ARCTIC AIR MASS. STILL, THE CENTER OF THE SFC RIDGE
WILL REMAIN OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES WITH NORTHERLY FLOW UNTIL THE
RIDGE SHIFTS EAST INTO THE ATLANTIC EARLY SUNDAY. THIS WILL GIVE US
AT LEAST TWO COOL MORNINGS WITH BELOW CLIMATOLOGICAL AVERAGES FOR
EARLY JANUARY.

Miami NWS Discussion
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Quoting goosegirl1:
Neapolitan- (and everyone else, o'course) I have been lurking, usually during the winter to get storm info as I live far enough inland to miss the worst of the hurricanes. I keep following your posts on climate change, and thinking we need to get together and tip a few beers sometime- we agree upon most subjects, and I think we'd have a lot to talk about. NO, I'm not a stalker, but you quoted my favorite non-fiction author and one of his best works. All humans have a lot to think about, and a lot to live up to. We are merely a few billion parisites on the back of the great Mother... and she may get tired of us sometime soon. Just where do we propose to go, if we insist upon collapsing the ecosystem that has evolved for 4.5 billion years to reach an equilibrium that just happens to support us and eveything else?
she has already decided what has to be done now we sit back and watch her do it right before our very eyes
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Quoting Jeff9641:
I can't believe it, rain is falling for the first time in a longtime here in Orlando! Good sign of things to come Tomorrow and Tomorrow Night.

Hi Everyone, Yes i had a little rain in zephyrhills Fl tonight but thats always what i get here. I hope jeff9641 has the forcast spot on. I'll take some rain.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Blood clots and internal injuries cane be caused by falling to the ground.

So what made them fall?

The radar animation in comment #404 shows pretty clearly a plume of something shooting skyward from the Beebe area a little before midnight New Year's Eve.

Arkansas is a leader in "fracking", the process of pumping a slurry of water, sand, and hundreds of other chemicals including diesel fuel, salts, heavy metals and unidentified “proprietary” chemicals into the ground to force natural gas out. As of last summer, the state had permitted 2,000 frac wells. One of the largest frac water "recyclers" in the state is Arkansas Reclamation, Inc.--based in Beebe.

ARI is northwest of Beebe.

The plume in the radar moves southeast.

The birds were found in and around Beebe.

I'm not saying a plume of toxic chemicals from ARI killed those birds, nor am I saying that ARI's workers waited until midnight New Year's Eve to intentionally dump a large batch of toxins into the air, knowing the noise and hubbub would mask what they did. I'm just saying it's possible. And I'm also saying that independent researchers people from outside the state should perform necropsies on the birds and the fish. There's be a lot of money to lose for a lot of people if fracking turns out to be the cause...so it if is the culprit, expect the typical Big Energy cover-up.

http://arkansasleader.blogspot.com/2010/04/top-story-old-farm-to-be-dump-site.html

http://www.arkansasleader.com/2010/03/top-story-more-gas-waste-worries-beebe.html
That is definitely a possibility. But what about S Louisiana?
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About the redwings....Have they ruled out the hail theory ....? A lot of around at that time
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Quoting presslord:


Hamlet, huh? Is that what you Aggies call a ham omlette? Or is a Hamlet just a small ham?

LOLOL
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Neapolitan- (and everyone else, o'course) I have been lurking, usually during the winter to get storm info as I live far enough inland to miss the worst of the hurricanes. I keep following your posts on climate change, and thinking we need to get together and tip a few beers sometime- we agree upon most subjects, and I think we'd have a lot to talk about. NO, I'm not a stalker, but you quoted my favorite non-fiction author and one of his best works. All humans have a lot to think about, and a lot to live up to. We are merely a few billion parisites on the back of the great Mother... and she may get tired of us sometime soon. Just where do we propose to go, if we insist upon collapsing the ecosystem that has evolved for 4.5 billion years to reach an equilibrium that just happens to support us and eveything else?
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Quoting supercoachdave:
I've been following this blog regularly for 6 months and lately have found myself following a couple of member blogs. The one conclusion I've drawn is the respect amongst different opinions in the other blogs whereas here it's a big pissing contest. I'll continue lurking but it'd be refreshing to see constructive dialogue between those with strong convictions.
Well during hurricane season if a storm is active then you'll have multiple people diccusing on the topic.Howver during the off season the same can not be said....as seen last night.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
Necropsies performed Monday on the birds in Arkansas showed the birds suffered internal injuries that formed blood clots leading to their deaths, The Associated Press reported.


Blood clots and internal injuries cane be caused by falling to the ground.

So what made them fall?

The radar animation in comment #404 shows pretty clearly a plume of something shooting skyward from the Beebe area a little before midnight New Year's Eve.

Arkansas is a leader in "fracking", the process of pumping a slurry of water, sand, and hundreds of other chemicals including diesel fuel, salts, heavy metals and unidentified %u201Cproprietary%u201D chemicals into the ground to force natural gas out. As of last summer, the state had permitted 2,000 frac wells. One of the largest frac water "recyclers" in the state is Arkansas Reclamation, Inc.--based in Beebe.

ARI is northwest of Beebe.

The plume in the radar moves southeast.

The birds were found in and around Beebe.

Now, I'm not saying a plume of toxic chemicals from ARI killed those birds, nor am I saying that ARI's workers waited until midnight New Year's Eve to intentionally dump a large batch of toxins into the air, knowing the noise and hubbub would mask what they did. I'm just saying it's possible. And I'm also saying that independent researchers from outside the state should perform necropsies on the birds and the fish. There'd be a lot of money to lose for a lot of people if fracking turns out to be the cause...so it if is the culprit, expect the typical Big Energy cover-up.

http://arkansasleader.blogspot.com/2010/04/top-story-old-farm-to-be-dump-site.html

http://www.arkansasleader.com/2010/03/top-story-more-gas-waste-worries-beebe.html
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Jeff9641. Looks like your getting the loan shower in C FL. Hope things materialize in St Augustine tomorrow/tomorrow night. Rain and thunderstorms forecast. Am hoping for 1" plus.
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Quoting calusakat:


Whatever shall I do?

Perhaps I shall sit in paralyzed terror for your return.
i only pick on those who like to cast stones into the darkness of their own ignorance... let it be known.

whereas with others, it is indeed a dialogue and not a pissing contest (quote supercoachdave)
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Quoting presslord:


Yea?!?!? well...I played Peter Cottontail in kindergarten...


I played Scrooge in sixth grade.


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Quoting presslord:


Hamlet, huh? Is that what you Aggies call a ham omlette? Or is a Hamlet just a small ham?


As long as it is Honey Baked Ham, it don't matter to me. :->


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Quoting atmoaggie:
*groan*

I'll have you know that I played Claudius in 10th grade.


Yea?!?!? well...I played Peter Cottontail in kindergarten...
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Quoting presslord:


Hamlet, huh? Is that what you Aggies call a ham omlette? Or is a Hamlet just a small ham?
*groan*

I'll have you know that I played Claudius in 10th grade.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Correct phrase is:

"O, woe is me"
(from Hamlet)

...unless you are a horse. In which case, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Carry on.


Thank you for the correction.

I will change it now.



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Quoting atmoaggie:
Correct phrase is:

"O, woe is me"
(from Hamlet)

...unless you are a horse. In which case, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Carry on.


Hamlet, huh? Is that what you Aggies call a ham omlette? Or is a Hamlet just a small ham?
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Quoting calusakat:


Oh whoa is me. :-(

I shall sit in paralyzed terror for your return.


Correct phrase is:

"O, woe is me"
(from Hamlet)

...unless you are a horse. In which case, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Carry on.
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Quoting Minnemike:
Quote Calusakat:
They, the AGW cultists, are only interested in forcing down others throats their mindless AGW beliefs.

The truth be damned, no matter the weather, it is caused by AGW.

How sad.


when the Doc's blog revisits the subject, i'll be revisiting this pathetic game you play for another round. for now, i'll just let the whining wind blow out of your balloon...


Oh woe is me. :-(

Whatever shall I do?

Perhaps I shall sit in paralyzed terror for your return Little Mikey.

Yeah, thats the ticket.


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I've been following this blog regularly for 6 months and lately have found myself following a couple of member blogs. The one conclusion I've drawn is the respect amongst different opinions in the other blogs whereas here it's a big pissing contest. I'll continue lurking but it'd be refreshing to see constructive dialogue between those with strong convictions.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
3,000 birds just dont drop outta the damn sky in one night. I like how the so called experts say it's normal some times.
Ehh, it happens.
(no, not really)

What really happened: We got tired of the dead zone in the gulf, down here, so we diverted nitrogen-rich water skyward, which created an aerial dead zone. Oops, sorry.
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3,000 birds just dont drop outta the damn sky in one night. I like how the so called experts say it's normal some times.
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Necropsies performed Monday on the birds in Arkansas showed the birds suffered internal injuries that formed blood clots leading to their deaths, The Associated Press reported.

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Quoting calusakat:


I think 100,000 drum is a pretty big number.




that's a lot of fish sticks
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looks like some kind of experimental project, and apprently it worked, or didn't
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This story was reported enthusiastically in the Daily Mail. Rainmaking in Middle Eastern Desert: Success or Scam? Saw a link posted on WU. Comment from this article:

"It is very sad that rain enhancement by methods that have no scientific basis (or at least have never been exposed to a scientific evaluation) get the headlines," said Roelof Bruintjes, a meteorologist at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research.

But, hey, if you can make money off reporting the story, why not? Bring the headlines!
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Quote Calusakat:
They, the AGW cultists, are only interested in forcing down others throats their mindless AGW beliefs.

The truth be damned, no matter the weather, it is caused by AGW.

How sad.


when the Doc's blog revisits the subject, i'll be revisiting this pathetic game you play for another round. for now, i'll just let the whining wind blow out of your balloon...
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It might be just one of those "freaks of nature" but both Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton were arrested at nearly the same Latitude and Longitude as the "Bird Kill" in Arkansas... I haven't really had the time to check into it, but I believe it may be near the same coordinates as the O.J.Simpson Ford Bronco chase...I need to check into it a bit more...I will get get back to you all after I check the latest DNA.
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Quoting presslord:


Wasn't there also a big fish kill in Arkansas?


I think 100,000 drum is a pretty big number.


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Quoting RitaEvac:
Someone said that on Google Maps Labarre and Beebe, Arkansas--the other place where it rained dead birds, are both on the 91 degree meridian. That's pretty spooky stuff.



Wasn't there also a big fish kill in Arkansas?
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Quoting atmoaggie:
I blame everything on anyone that ever mentions the name of some person that everyone else seems to know of, but, as it turns out, has no redeeming qualities nor talents deserving of such attentions.


Absotively possolutely.


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Someone said that on Google Maps Labarre and Beebe, Arkansas--the other place where it rained dead birds, are both on the 91 degree meridian. That's pretty spooky stuff.

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I blame everything on anyone that ever mentions the name of some person that everyone else seems to know of, but, as it turns out, has no redeeming qualities nor talents deserving of such attentions.
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Quoting MichaelSTL:


Louisiana too now? I was thinking that the Arkansas incident was due to the severe weather in the area (tornadoes can suck up objects and drop them a long distance away, even after the tornado has dissipated, or even a strong updraft). The fireworks explanation doesn't seem to fit either based on this second incident. But something had to happen to cause them to just suddenly die in midair, and with internal injuries (but did the injuries happen before they fell or from hitting the ground?).

Also, in the Arkansas incident, you can see something happen on the radar (look to the northeast just inside the first white circle); almost looks like something erupting:

Quoting presslord:


I heard a brief mention on the radio today that some think the Arkansas episode was caused by fireworks....I wonder if that's what is showing in your image...
Are there any power plants or nucular that could have had an unusual discharge?
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Quoting Skyepony:
Ya'll notice both those bird kills are about the same Longitude? Anybody got a moment to check if they are exactly the same?


Wasn't there some concern and discussion about the various dispersants used after the BP oil spill?


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Quoting Neapolitan:
So for those of you wondering why some of us are so adamant about protecting the planet and the things on it, so vociferous about making sure others do, and so quick to anger when confronting the legions who'd put profit in front of survival, consider this: as Carl Sagan so succinctly and profoundly put it, that little dot is all we've got. And I, for one, refuse to simply sit back quietly and meekly as the greedy ruin it for the rest of us.

I won't. Because, you see, I can't.


Being rude, ridiculing and impugning the intelligence of those who disagree with you only serves as proof that your view is extremely narrow and, quite frankly, arrogant. Need I remind you that it was you who recently used the term 'luddite'?

Flawed, missing and altered data does not do anything but convince the majority of us that AGW cultists, like yourself, are not interested in the truth at all. They, the AGW cultists, are only interested in forcing down others throats their mindless AGW beliefs.

The truth be damned, no matter the weather, it is caused by AGW.

How sad.


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414. Skyepony (Mod)
Ya'll notice both those bird kills are about the same Longitude? Anybody got a moment to check if they are exactly the same?
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:


I blame everything on to Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton.Don't ask me why, I can't explain it...
that's a reasonable assessment, if by that you mean to reflect on the society they were borne from.
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