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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:35 PM GMT on September 25, 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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952. tropicfreak 11:59 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting anyotherliestotell:
joe bastardi hasn't been right in over 5 years. EVERY YEAR he claims the northeast is in for "the big one" and florida too. just google "joe bastardi is a moron" and you will see blogs of REAL scientists mocking him, even youtube videos. he should be ashamed, but he's not capable of that emotion. compare a level headed Dr Masters who is in it for the truth, not hype and limelight.


As much as I agree with you, you really shouldn't bash bastardi like that.
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953. Seflhurricane 12:00 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting leo305:


yep looks like I was right.. there's a low forming around that area or just south east of there
yeap pressure is dropping currently looking at the National data buoy center, something is brewing
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954. centex 12:01 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Matthew is far from dead. It looks like its taking a track just S of what Alex did. It will be interesting if it hooks back like the NHC has it going. Its only about 160-180 miles away from the BOC to feed off of.
Models and experts who rely on them are having real hard time with Matthew. I’ve never thought this would turn east until closer to 20N this time of year.
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956. alcomat 12:01 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


Oh I forgot the NHC knows nothing

forget it folks, its going to the BOC, NHC has no clue what it is talking about

I guess everyone forgets that hook stayed for 1 ADVISORY!!! the next advisory they had it inland of mexico

Again I repeat, NHC has been nearly dead on with track
sort of like any television weatherman would do,wait until it starts raining, then forecast a 90% chance of rain! duh! once it made landfall it was obvious it wasnt gonna hook right toward florida,they were WRONG!,if you go back and look at the cone you will see.anyone can forecast the weather,if you change the forecast every hour,along with the weather changing every hour..
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957. Chicklit 12:01 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
This is worth repeating:
TROPICAL DEPRESSION MATTHEW IS CENTERED INLAND OVER THE NORTHERN GUATEMALA REGION NEAR 17.4N 89.4W AT 25/2100 UTC OR ABOUT 105 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CHETUMAL MEXICO MOVING NW AT 12 KT. ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1003 MB. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WIND SPEED IS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT. SEE LATEST NHC INTERMEDIATE PUBLIC ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCPAT5/WTNT35 KNHC AND THE FULL FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCMAT5/WTNT25 KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS.

RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH MATTHEW CONTINUES TO BE THE MAIN THREAT TO CENTRAL AMERICA AND IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE EVEN AFTER MATTHEW HAS DISSIPATED. TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES OVER PORTIONS OF HONDURAS... GUATEMALA...BELIZE AND ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF UP TO 15 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THESE RAINS COULD PRODUCE LIFE THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES. CURRENTLY...NUMEROUS STRONG CONVECTION IS OVER GUATEMALA AND MEXICO FROM 15N-19N BETWEEN 89W-92W...WITH NUMEROUS MODERATE/SCATTERED STRONG CONVECTION FROM 11N-21N BETWEEN 78W-94W.
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959. leo305 12:02 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
got to be starting something, got to be starting something!

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961. Some1Has2BtheRookie 12:03 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:


Yeah I know, I grew up there actually before moving to Florida lol.

Despite the exotic tropical sound of "monsoon", it really is all about pressure differences and shift in wind. Yet most people think a monsoon is a hurricane type storm, but its not a storm at all, rather extreme changes in weather pattern.

India has a monsoon, because cold dry winds from the mountains to the north bring high pressure, and extremely dry weather during the dry season(offshore wind), this is part of the monsoon as well despite what some have heard.

But during the wet season, deep moisture flowing in off the Indian ocean, and general low air pressure over land causes extremely heavy rainfall during that part of the monsoon.





That is probably the best description I have seen yet. Thanks!
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962. atmoaggie 12:03 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
yeap pressure is dropping currently looking at the National data buoy center, something is brewing
You guys looking at lowering pressures one day at dusk? Ummm, oh nevermind.
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963. Seflhurricane 12:03 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Pressure falling east of honduras here is another observation

Station 42057
NDBC
Location: 16.834N 81.501W
Conditions as of:
Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:50:00 UTC
Winds: E (100°) at 13.6 kt gusting to 15.5 kt
Significant Wave Height: 4.3 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 5 sec
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.77 in and falling
Air Temperature: 83.1 F
Dew Point: 76.1 F
Water Temperature: 85.3 F
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967. Chicklit 12:04 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

It's definitely looming in the general vicinity wherever it is...

the models had it coming from the west.
Maybe north of matthew?

Or could it be approx. 15N 80W?
WVLoop
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968. scott39 12:05 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
How is the front going to stall Matthew, when its not going to be here for at least another 24 hours? Even if he slows down going NW, it looks like he will still make it to the BOC before the front can stall it over land? Its confusing.
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971. scottsvb 12:05 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Lets not jump the gun yet on everything. Lets wait for the broad low to develop first.. wont be for 2 days (late monday or tuesday) then we will check the models better. Right now, all we got is a braod low near western Cuba on Weds and maybe a Tropical Storm (kinda subtropical with winds near TS strength out kinda far) and until then.. we dont know about Thurs-Sat cause models will change that far out.
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972. cmahan 12:06 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH MATTHEW CONTINUES TO BE THE MAIN THREAT TO CENTRAL AMERICA AND IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE EVEN AFTER MATTHEW HAS DISSIPATED. TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES OVER PORTIONS OF HONDURAS... GUATEMALA...BELIZE AND ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF UP TO 15 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THESE RAINS COULD PRODUCE LIFE THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES. CURRENTLY...NUMEROUS STRONG CONVECTION IS OVER GUATEMALA AND MEXICO FROM 15N-19N BETWEEN 89W-92W...WITH NUMEROUS MODERATE/SCATTERED STRONG CONVECTION FROM 11N-21N BETWEEN 78W-94W.


Yeah, that's what worried me the most. This year it seems even when the homebrew systems don't manage to deepen pressure or spin up their windfields, they are carrying a metric buttload of rain.
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973. driftwoodswfl 12:06 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
once this thing developes according to the steering patterns, there is a chance it just sits in the NW caribbean gaining strength...
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976. leo305 12:07 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
I don't get how a subtropical low would develop in the carribean considering the system is going to be purely tropical in nature if it forms..
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978. CybrTeddy 12:08 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
IMO post season, Igor upped to Category 5 and Karl retired.

Reasoning for Igor: SAB, and ADT both maintained a 7.0 for the system on the 15th. 155 is only 1 mph short anyways.
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979. reedzone 12:08 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
I dissagree with alot fo you about Joe Bastardi. He nailed this seasons winter and also did a much better job on predicting the storms for this years Hurricane Season. We are at 13, nearing 14 in a few days. He predicted by the end of September we'd be along the lines of 13-15 storms.. Look where we are at right now.

Alex, Bonnie, Earl, and Hermine affected the USA in some way. He was pretty accurate so far.
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981. Seflhurricane 12:08 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting leo305:
I don't get how a subtropical low would develop in the carribean considering the system is going to be purely tropical in nature if it forms..
quite frankly i dont know anymore so many things going on and no one knows we have reached the 5th dimention
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983. Grothar 12:08 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
You guys looking at lowering pressures one day at dusk? Ummm, oh nevermind.


What did you do to 42058? Not even scheduled yet????
985. kshipre1 12:09 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
I have seen a few statements like Florida is safe. What?? I mean yeah, things and wind currents change but it is hard to say that Florida is going to safe next week and especially in October.

Obviously, it is hard to say that a storm will hit somewhere in Florida. No guarantees of course because tracks are hard to forecast and change but I think especially in October, Florida is at risk due to the jet stream dipping further south towards Florida.

Are there any updates as to which part of Florida is at risk next week? West Coast? or east coast?
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987. Seflhurricane 12:09 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:
I dissagree with alot fo you about Joe Bastardi. He nailed this seasons winter and also did a much better job on predicting the storms for this years Hurricane Season. We are at 13, nearing 14 in a few days. He predicted by the end of September we'd be along the lines of 13-15 storms.. Look where we are at right now.

Alex, Bonnie, Earl, and Hermine affected the USA in some way. He was pretty accurate so far.
hey reed any thoughts on the supposed new system to form ??? intresting area south of haiti
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990. TropicalWeatherGrl 12:10 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting anyotherliestotell:
looks like florida is safe AGAIN. how many times did i tell you amateurs that fronts never get down here in september? try again. wow, it might rain next weekend lol.


I am confused what are you talking about? Did something change that I do not know about I just looked at the 18z and it has 2 storms?
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991. leo305 12:10 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

At one point they were suggesting that. I don't remember when. But we might be shifting course a bit...we'll see in a bit.


I guess they were forecasting matthew to draw energy from a weak area of low pressure in the pacific, and spin it around its broad circulation but then as it does that the circulation would strengthen and develop just east of were matthew falls apart, and then it starts to take over the remnant circulation left over by matthew..

I guess they might have not taken into the equation the ULL and wave in the eastern carribean coming into the equation.. or maybe they were.. who knows..

all I know is that something might be trying to consolidate east of Honduras..
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992. WXTXN 12:10 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
I hope Florida doesn't get hit.
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994. beell 12:10 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
lol.


All kidding aside, in terms of where and when the season began. In terms of when CV season started (and may be ending). And in terms of SAL and shear-a season that has stayed close to climatology. SST's were the big anomaly.

Early recurvature could be considered anomalous by some folks. Even disappointing!
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995. alcomat 12:11 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting WXTXN:
Winds back out of the Southeast here in corpus,  briefly shifted ne this morning but dewpoint never dropped.    There is no front protecting Tx.

exactly,thats what I been trying to tell all these florida wishcasters,matthew could be in the pacific,and they would still say its going to fla, guess they feed off of all the damage,and loss of work,electricity etc..lol
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996. Seflhurricane 12:11 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting WXTXN:
I hope Florida doesn't get hit.
sadly all indications are we will be nailed pretty hard next month
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998. scott39 12:11 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting scottsvb:
Lets not jump the gun yet on everything. Lets wait for the broad low to develop first.. wont be for 2 days (late monday or tuesday) then we will check the models better. Right now, all we got is a braod low near western Cuba on Weds and maybe a Tropical Storm (kinda subtropical with winds near TS strength out kinda far) and until then.. we dont know about Thurs-Sat cause models will change that far out.
Do you think that Matthew will Dissipate over the Yucatan? Given the change of direction sooner than expected and the forward motion still 13mph and the front over 24 hours away. Matthew is only about 160-180 miles from the BOC.
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999. stillwaiting 12:11 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting alcomat:
the cold front has pulled up stationary or has washed out from what I can tell across texas,no way this front makes it to florida.dont see any sw winds in the gulf to show a pull toward florida,and the models are all over the gom with the track,so yes it is possible for matthew to get in the boc,and head for texas or louisiana.one last note sammy,if I recall it was still a depression!
....the blob south of the panhandle is associated w/trough......moving nw
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1001. reedzone 12:12 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
hey reed any thoughts on the supposed new system to form ??? intresting area south of haiti


Whatever forms down there should move north in time.
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