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Tropical Depression Fifteen forms in the Caribbean
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:32 PM GMT on September 23, 2010 +4
Tropical Depression Fifteen is here, and is destined to become Tropical Storm Matthew by late this afternoon or this evening. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft left the storm near 2pm EDT this afternoon, and on their final pass through the strong northeast quadrant of the storm, found a substantial area of surface winds of 40 - 45 mph with their SFMR instrument. Top flight level winds at 500 feet were 48 mph. These winds support upgrading TD 15 to Tropical Storm Matthew. Satellite loops show that TD 15's heavy thunderstorm activity continues to increase in intensity and areal coverage, with several respectable low-level spiral bands in evidence. There is some dry air to the northwest of TD 15, but it is currently not significantly affecting development.


Figure 1. TD 15 at 11:50am EDT 9/23/10, as seen by NASA's Terra satellite.

Forecast for TD 15
An upper-level high pressure system lies to the west of TD 15, near the coast of Nicaragua. The clockwise flow of air around this high will bring a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over TD 15 today and Friday. There is some dry continental air lying to the northwest of TD 15, and this shear may be able to drive dry air into the storm, slowing intensification and keeping TD 15 below hurricane strength through Saturday morning. By Saturday afternoon, TD 15 will move more underneath this upper-level high, causing the shear to decline. The SHIPS model forecasts that shear will fall to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, Saturday through Monday. This drop in shear should allow for intensification of TD 15 into a hurricane, if the center stays more than 50 miles offshore.

The future track and intensity of TD 15 depends critically upon the storm's interaction with land over the coming days. If TD 15 misses making landfall in Nicaragua and Honduras, and instead skirts the north coast of Honduras, the storm is likely to intensify into a hurricane by Sunday, as indicated in the official NHC forecast. However, if TD 15 spends significant time over or barely offshore of Honduras, the storm will likely stay below hurricane strength. TD 15 is being forced just north of due west by a strong ridge of high pressure. This ridge will keep the storm moving at 15 mph through Saturday. On Sunday, a trough of low pressure diving southwards over the Eastern U.S. will weaken the steering currents over the Western Caribbean and cause TD 15 to slow and turn more to the north. TD 15 will begin a period of slow and erratic movement on Sunday that may last many days, as the storm wanders in the Western Caribbean and over Belize, Honduras, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. If the center of TD 15 spends significant time over water, the storm could easily develop into powerful and dangerous Hurricane Matthew. If the center remains mostly over land, TD 15 will still generate extremely heavy rains over Central America, but remain below hurricane strength. By late next week, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may lift out, allowing a ridge of high pressure to build in and force TD 15 westwards across the Yucatan Peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. Alternatively, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may amplify, drawing TD 15 northwards across Western Cuba and into Florida. A complicating factor may be the development of a new tropical depression in the Central Caribbean 6 - 8 days from now, as predicted by both the GFS and NOGAPS models with their latest 12Z (8am EDT) runs. The uncertainties in the long-range fate of TD 15 are high, and depend strongly on slight variations in its track that determine how much time the storm spends over land. One thing that is virtually certain is that TD 15 will generate very heavy rains over Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula Friday through Tuesday that will cause dangerous flooding rains and life-threatening mudslides.

Tropical Depression Lisa
Tropical Depression Lisa continues to churn the waters of the far Eastern Atlantic. By Saturday night, upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over Lisa. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The remnants of Hurricane Julia are still spinning over the far Eastern Atlantic, and are generating some sporadic heavy thunderstorm to the north of the center of circulation. Julia's remains are being given a 10% chance of re-developing by NHC.

Hurricane Karl's moisture causing flooding in Minnesota, Wisconsin
A plume of very moist air associated with what was Hurricane Karl last week has surged northwards over the Central U.S. over the past two days. This moisture is now being lifted over a warm front draped over Minnesota and Wisconsin, and has generated flooding rains in excess of six inches in southern Minnesota this afternoon. Flood warnings and flood watches are posted for a wide swath of the upper Midwest today, including most of southern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, and Michigan's Upper Peninsula. These types of rain events are called Predecessor Rain Events (PREs), because they typically precede the actual arrival of the rain shield of a tropical storm.


Figure 2. Radar estimated rainfall over Minnesota.

Next post
I'll have an update on TD 15 Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2851. Grothar 1:48 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    



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2852. reedzone 1:51 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Soooo the GFS creates a Superstorm out of Matthew or Nicole. Does the same thing it wanted to do with Wilma in 2005.
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2855. FSUCOOPman 1:51 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting FLdewey:
Geez hopefully this thing is out in 16 days... but Dizzneee rarely closes.... they bolt down the tea cups pretty securely.


Shoot, that far out, I'd be worried about one of these other supposed systems that's going to hit in FL in October.
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2856. Dakster 1:52 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:
Matthew is only taking the southern track long enough to get under the Box :)





It is almost like it knows... Somehow.
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2859. CyclonicVoyage 1:54 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting Times2:
If only we had someone on here who KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!! There is no scenario right now that has any solid validity. JMO


I haven't seen anyone discuss any scenario solidly. There is still extreme differences in the models and equal chances of Matthew dying over CA or a Cat 5 developing in the Gulf of Honduras. I personally prefer the GFS's handling of Matthew and how this will all evolve. A lot of opinions flying around today as there are many options on the table. However, at this point Matthew is still disorganized enough to not strengthen all that much over the next 24hrs, again IMO.
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2862. Grothar 1:54 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
If Matthew is fizzling, no one told him. Look at those incredible cold cloud tops.

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2863. Times2 1:54 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Only time will tell how many times someone on the blog says "only time will tell", lol. Sorry it's just funny to me...does any of us have a job?
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2864. flsky 1:54 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting tacoman:
guys its pure and simple matthew has no where to go but over land..he hasn't slown down and continues to move a little n of due west...matthew will be on shore in hondouras and continue to truck through beliez causing copious amounts of rain im saying 25 inches is not out of possibility..it will then go over the yucatan where if he is lucky he will make it all the way to the boc loking like a wounded duck.....this will be late tuesday or wednesday if this happens..i think by that time the cut off low centered over the se will be out and the high will be building back in...thats the way i see it now ...i have been 100% on the money...imo matthew doesnt survivie the long track over land...which is going to pain all you fla people...be patient you may get nikki

Thanks for your guess. Oh, and thank you for the new addition to my list of dubious vocabulary - "slown." haha
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2867. Neapolitan 1:55 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
NEW BLOG
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2868. BobinTampa 1:55 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
NEW BLOG
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2869. Couillon 1:56 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010xo:
GOING TO HIT LAND SOON..

I thought matthew's coc was pounding Honduras.
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2870. RobbWilder 1:57 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Where is Drakoen or Hurricane23?
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2871. sailingallover 1:57 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
The little disturbance at 57W 13N is what is supposed to run into the Low pressure area that is left by Mathew. And since it looks like his convection is getting sheared off to the W because the upper level winds are stronger then the low level at least for the moment he will be relatively weak happily for Honduras/Roatan/Belize
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2874. breald 1:59 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Thanks for your guess. Oh, and thank you for the new addition to my list of dubious vocabulary - "slown." haha


Leave him be he has been watching too many Sarah Palin interviews....LOL.

Taco back away from fox news before it is too late.
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2876. sailingallover 1:59 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting RobbWilder:
Where is Drakoen or Hurricane23?
Have not seen Drak for weeks...
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2878. swlavp 2:08 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

u know they have a life u know drakoen has college and the same with 23


We know...u know
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2881. sarahjola 2:18 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
this morning the news on the front that was expected to pull matthew n. is going to flatten out over e.tx./la. what else could turn mat. n. maybe the front is going to push it s. like the models show mat. doing and then back out into the Caribbean as remnants, and reform once it gets out in water like that image tampaspin posted(2824). i think that post tells the story of mat. best. yesterday the word was that this front was going to be strong, now its not. the models started picking up on this yesterday. which was reflected in the model runs that first started turning it s. or dissipating mat. i think that tampaspins model is awesome. i would like to see a longer range for that model. i do not know much about weather, and i am getting my front information from twc.:)but my opinion comes from what the models started saying yesterday, and what i heard this morning about the front flattening out. just using common sense thinking with the front flattening out,the front might push the storm s. & e. causing mat. to reform once it enters the Caribbean. if i am wrong or way off can someone please explain to me why, and tell me what will be the steering factor for mat.? thanks in advance
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2882. RobbWilder 2:23 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

u know they have a life u know drakoen has college and the same with 23


u know usually when stuff starts to cocern florida they pop up. u know they are both pretty knowledgeable. u know
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2884. smartinwx 2:51 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
why are so many messages on here hidden?
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2886. stormhank 3:12 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Morning....Does anyone feel October could be an active month for the carribean and GOM?? I fear would could have a couple US hits next month??
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2887. hcubed 3:50 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
Quoting smartinwx:
why are so many messages on here hidden?


Troll activity.
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2888. largeeyes 7:59 PM GMT on September 24, 2010    
I love the cone from the NHC. No way it ends outside that thing!
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