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Lesser Antilles may see a tropical storm late this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:51 PM GMT on August 01, 2010 +3
A concentrated area of intense thunderstorms near 9N 36W, midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has become more organized this morning. NHC has labeled this system Invest 91L, and is giving it a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by 8am Tuesday. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of 91L to potentially allow further development. The main negatives for development are the current phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation, which favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, and the fact that 91L is too close to the Equator to take much advantage of the Earth's spin to get spinning. Last night's ASCAT pass of the region did show a large region of westerly winds south of 91L, indicating that a surface circulation is trying to form. Satellite imagery shows that the intensity and areal extent of 91L's heavy thunderstorms is increasing. However, there are no signs of a surface circulation, and low-level spiral bands and upper-level outflow are not apparent yet.

Forecast for 91L
There is strong model support for 91L developing into a tropical depression. The GFS, ECMWF, NOGAPS, and UKMET models all develop 91L into a tropical depression by Tuesday or Wednesday. A west to west-northwest motion is predicted, and residents of the Lesser Antilles Islands should anticipate the possibility of a tropical storm arriving in the islands as early as Thursday. It is possible that 91L would pass northeast of the islands, as predicted by the UKMET model, and it is too early to speculate on which of the islands is at most risk. As the storm approaches the Lesser Antilles late this week, 91L will encounter a strong upper-level low pressure system centered north of Puerto Rico. This upper-level low will likely bring high levels of wind shear to the waters just north of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. Thus, if 91L stays to the south, in the Caribbean, it is far more likely to attain hurricane status than if it pushes north of the Caribbean. As always, long range forecasts of this sort are speculative, and it is too early to reliably say what the long-term risks of 91L becoming a hurricane are. The latest intensity forecast from the SHIPS model shows 91L peaking in strength four days from now, then weakening as it encounters the high wind shear area north of Puerto Rico.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 91L.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2851. KoritheMan 2:22 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Yeah...kinda makes me wonder if I'm missing something in analysis.


That's how we learn, though. Right?
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2852. ssmate 2:22 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Thanks for your help Storm. Have a good night.
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2854. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:23 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    


hmmm something happen
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2855. MyrtleCanes 2:23 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
@sammywammy, actually no I live in TN, I'm posting storms looking back that had similar outcomes to what some of the models are currently forecasting
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2856. Chicklit 2:23 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Nice picture Aussie. It's pretty much on it there imo, considering we don't have a real center identified as yet. Anyway, would love to watch this thing form but gotta be good to go in the a.m. g'nite.
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2857. bappit 2:24 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Me too!...regardless, the current low to mid level cloud motion is east to west, way out to at least 70W at the moment. That's what's strange about the model runs.

I see no link to the ITCZ in the MIMIC TPW or TCTrak images. What should I be looking for?
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2858. Barbados 2:24 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting pottery:
At my location (central T&T) 8.25"
DDR in St.Augustine was saying 21"
Some areas more than that.
Been a wet one so far.
More commin'>>>>>>>>>


Do you recon the blob to your east will drift up to me or give you another good soaking?
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2859. AussieStorm 2:24 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Nice picture Aussie. It's pretty much on it there imo, considering we don't have a real center identified as yet.
as the system intensifies with the anticyclone over it how many times have we seen the high pressure aloft enhance the ridge to the north??

high pressure aloft enhancing the ridge to the north just enough to help keep it on a WNW track and close that door in the weakness
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2860. Hhunter 2:24 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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2861. gordydunnot 2:25 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good night storm, hey Kman that high is centered right above max vort. probably not just a coincidence.
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2862. Bordonaro 2:25 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


hmmm something happen

91L is winding up nicely.
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2863. charlottefl 2:25 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
CharlotteFL everyone's getting rain but me!



Not getting rain yet :P All lightning at this point. I don't think that's gonna keep up for very long tho. I see we're about to kick of the start of our CV season.
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2864. Drakoen 2:25 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
I don't understand why the NHC has 91L at 10.1N when the ASCAT, Windsat, and CIMSS 850mb vort clearly differ with that philosophy.
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2866. centex 2:25 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Everyone says how models not reliable in this situation but quote 5 day prediction based on them. I can't make any since of that. I'm just looking for genesis at this point but I'm a fool. LOL used properly.
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2867. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:26 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
its lifting up and out its on its own
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2868. earthlydragonfly 2:26 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting ho77yw00d:


your not kidding it's almost over my house... YIKES the sky keeps lighting up every 2 secs


Wish I was there....
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2869. kmanislander 2:26 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
I don't understand why the NHC has 91L at 10.1N when the ASCAT, Windsat, and CIMSS 850mb vort clearly differ with that philosophy.


I agree with you completely.
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2870. nrtiwlnvragn 2:26 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Odd little SW jerks at the end of some of these 0z runs. I'm not making much sense of them.



Don't know what the MM5B and MM5E models are but I noticed the BAMD has done that several runs in a row, slows down the track and takes that left turn.
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2871. Relix 2:27 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
I don't understand why the NHC has 91L at 10.1N when the ASCAT, Windsat, and CIMSS 850mb vort clearly differ with that philosophy.


Exactly. It's farther to the north. With at that location it seems like a sure miss for us here in the northern antilles. I will be going to take a break from following the invest, it's driving me mad. Break time!
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2872. ho77yw00d 2:27 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:


Wish I was there....


you could go camera happy...lol
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2873. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:27 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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2874. charlottefl 2:27 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Radar just went purple over town, don't like that too much.

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2876. earthlydragonfly 2:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting ho77yw00d:


you could go camera happy...lol


That is what I do
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2877. pottery 2:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Barbados:


Do you recon the blob to your east will drift up to me or give you another good soaking?

Earlier this afternoon, I thought B'dos.
But it has kept west all day, mostly.
Looks like between me and you.
Tobago, Grenada.
But I am sure we will all get wetter.....
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2878. BenBIogger 2:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


Don't know what the MM5B and MM5E models are but I noticed the BAMD has done that several runs in a row, slows down the track and takes that left turn.

Strange model
.
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2879. Levi32 2:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
I don't understand why the NHC has 91L at 10.1N when the ASCAT, Windsat, and CIMSS 850mb vort clearly differ with that philosophy.


Totally agree...they appear to still be tracking the center of the broad low, instead of switching to the developing surface center which will almost certainly become Colin's core.
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2880. MiamiHurricanes09 2:30 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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2881. ho77yw00d 2:30 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:


That is what I do



I love taking pictures myself but I am not going to go out and get struck knowing my luck (with this bad of a storm)
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2883. CaicosRetiredSailor 2:31 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
whew... home from an outstanding B'day party with many of my strange old-time friends here in the island.

..now, here to check on the potential mischief to the East.
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2884. MiamiHurricanes09 2:31 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting extreme236:


Since the center has yet to become very well-defined, I'd say 12N could be very possible for a center estimate.
Agreed, I don't see it anywhere near 10.1N as shown on the 00z ATCF best track.
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2885. Relix 2:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Totally agree...they appear to still be tracking the center of the broad low, instead of switching to the developing surface center which will almost certainly become Colin's core.


I said I would leave but.. well... this is addicting =P.

What change in track do you think this could create?
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2886. gordydunnot 2:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Well I got jumped on before, last post for the night looking at satellite all day low clouds are moving due west mid and upper want to go wnw to nw.IMO There is one line of 20 knot shear right over llc it's what has held this back. IT will probably work itself to the surface around 12n that remains to be seen.
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2887. pottery 2:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Post 2873.
Nice loop, Keeper. Thanks.
I had not seen that.
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2888. Patrap 2:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting eyesontheweather:
Hmmm. So Many of the folks I used to read and learn from are not here anymore.....Surprised your still here...glad you are. Hopefully the others are lurking and will intersede as needed.


Ty eyes,,..long time no see.

Im Like BP and Beaches..
Forever
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2890. cirrocumulus 2:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
10.2N, 37.5W
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2891. AussieStorm 2:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting ho77yw00d:



I love taking pictures myself but I am not going to go out and get struck knowing my luck (with this bad of a storm)

oh, don't go out,,, I can tell you know, it's not worth getting stuck just for the sake of a photo. I am a survivor of being struck.
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2892. Orcasystems 2:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

Earlier this afternoon, I thought B'dos.
But it has kept west all day, mostly.
Looks like between me and you.
Tobago, Grenada.
But I am sure we will all get wetter.....


I will keep you updated :)
Thats what friends are for.
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2893. angiest 2:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Oh my, it sure looks like the ECWMF is the contrarian model on this system.
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2894. extreme236 2:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Agreed, I don't see it anywhere near 10.1N as shown on the 00z ATCF best track.


I'd almost guarantee a TD at 5am with the info I'm seeing.
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2895. kmanislander 2:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting AussieStorm:

oh, don't go out,,, I can tell you know, it's not worth getting stuck just for the sake of a photo. I am a survivor of being struck.


You and Lee Trevino !
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2896. duprk452 2:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Record Report

Statement as of 04:40 PM CDT on August 1, 2010

... Record high temperature set at New Orleans...

a record high temperature of 100 degrees was set at New Orleans
International Airport today. This breaks the old record of 97 set in
1998.


... Record high temperature set at Baton Rouge ASOS...

a record high temperature of 99 degrees was set at Baton Rouge today.
This breaks the old record of 98 set in 1998.



... Record high temperature tied at Gulfport ASOS...

a record high temperature of 101 degrees was tied at Gulfport today.
This ties the old record of 101 set in 1986.



... Record high temperature set at Slidell ASOS...

a record high temperature of 100 degrees was set at Slidell today.
This breaks the old record of 98 set in 1986.



It's horrendous!

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2897. AussieStorm 2:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting cirrocumulus:
10.2N, 37.5W

is this wrong or right??
Link
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2898. cirrocumulus 2:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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2899. floridaT 2:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
hey cacios
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2900. GeoffreyWPB 2:36 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
For God's sake SSIG...put...ahhh never mind. :) Time to retire that line!
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2901. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:36 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
here is another one an IR image for ya pott
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