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Pakistan monsoon floods kill at least 800
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:56 PM GMT on July 31, 2010 +3
The deadliest weather disaster of 2010 is unfolding in Pakistan, where heavy monsoon rains have triggered flooding that has left at least 817 people dead. A death toll may reach 3000, according to the local head of Pakistan's largest rescue service, and more monsoon rains are on the way. Monsoon floods have also hit southeastern Afghanistan hard, where at least 64 have been killed. The heavy rains were caused by a monsoon depression (also called a monsoon low) that formed over the Bay of Bengal on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan, resulting in that nation's worst floods since at least 1929. Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela.

A monsoon depression is similar to a tropical depression, but forms in the Indian Southwest Monsoon over the Bay of Bengal. Like tropical depressions, monsoon depressions are hundreds of miles in diameter, have nearly calm winds near the center, and can have sustained winds of 30 - 35 mph. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in 2009; the average is 6 - 7. A new monsoon depression developed over the Bay of Bengal yesterday, and is headed westward towards Pakistan. Heavy rains from this new monsoon depression will begin affecting Pakistan on Monday, according to the Pakistan Meteorological Department.


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Tropical Atlantic may get active by mid-week
The Invest 90L tropical wave off the coast of Africa has grown disorganized, and NHC is no longer generating forecast tracks for the system. A tropical wave that moved of the coast of Africa Thursday is in the eastern Atlantic near 10N 25W, a few hundred miles south of the Cape Verdes Islands. This morning's 12Z run of the NOGAPS model predicts that this wave will develop into a tropical storm by Wednesday, and reach the Lesser Antilles Islands Friday. This morning's 12Z run of the GFS and ECMWF models predict that an area of disturbed weather near 8N 37W, in the east-central Atlantic, will develop into a tropical storm that will move through the Lesser Antilles on Thursday. Wind shear is low to moderate, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of these disturbed areas to potentially allow formation of a tropical storm. However, the Madden-Julian Oscillation currently favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, which will act to decrease the chances of tropical storm formation. NHC is giving a 30% chance that a tropical depression will form by Monday afternoon from one of these areas of disturbed weather.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning at the latest.

Jeff Masters
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2701. ho77yw00d 11:45 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting Becca36:
Good morning all! I see I have a nice day of invest watching ahead of me today.


morning Becca! :)
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2702. IKE 11:46 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting weatherwart:


Mermaids, dinosaurs and bears, oh my! Where else but Florida? lol


LOL.

System appears to be moving slowly just north of west to me.
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2703. WeekiWacheeWoman 11:46 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Somewhere in Florida?

North of Tampa by about 45 minutes.
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2704. breald 11:47 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Morning All!! I see we have invest 91.
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2705. CybrTeddy 11:47 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:
Good morning. I see we have 91L. Wow, 60%. Who knew?


I figured it was coming.
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2706. IKE 11:47 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting WeekiWacheeWoman:

North of Tampa by about 45 minutes.


Go Rays. Win the series!
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2707. GainesvilleGator 11:49 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Good morning 91L. Too bad we don't have a five day forecast out yet. Will this stay low enough to avoid all that dry air? So far so good.
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2708. IKE 11:50 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

91L is one SLOW runner.


Should pick up some speed in the next 48 hours. Maybe it'll fizzle out and defy all of the models. Seems unlikely though + it's August now.
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2709. alaina1085 11:50 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Morning!
Finally got her designated huh? Its gonna be a long week.
How's everyone feeling?
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2711. weatherwart 11:50 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting WeekiWacheeWoman:

North of Tampa by about 45 minutes.


East of you. Howdy neighbor!
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2712. CybrTeddy 11:50 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting GainesvilleGator:
Good morning 91L. Too bad we don't have a five day forecast out yet. Will this stay low enough to avoid all that dry air? So far so good.


Dry air probably won't be a problem.
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2713. HaboobsRsweet 11:51 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
My disclaimer...Everyone should not jump on the models with 91L today. Give them 24hours to lock onto the storm. Save all the model talk until tomorrow because the track that it spits out today will be way way off. Thanks.
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2714. texwarhawk 11:51 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Looks like the main convection is trying to pull together.

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2716. CybrTeddy 11:52 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:
My disclaimer...Everyone should not jump on the models with 91L today. Give them 24hours to lock onto the storm. Save all the model talk until tomorrow because the track that it spits out today will be way way off. Thanks.


Yup.
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2717. weatherwart 11:52 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Good morning, Storm.
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2718. ho77yw00d 11:53 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings,
I see we have 91L. If I don't have one out by this afternoon, I'll have a synopsis on 91L late tonight.



morning sir, Looking forward to your synopsis (as always)!!
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2719. clwstmchasr 11:53 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
TWC on the update just said that the NHC gives it a "medium" chance for development.

I guess they didn't hit refresh on their computer.
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2720. java162 11:53 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
i cant believe TWC is that slow..... in their recent update they still said it had a medium chance of development!!!!
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2721. kmanislander 11:53 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting weatherwart:
Morning, Kman. Jet lag all gone?

Agreed, until we have a closed low, everything is tentative. It's interesting to speculate, but it's a watch and wait game now.


I am more tired this morning than I was last night LOL. Hopefully my golf game won't suffer too much today !.

I just took a look at the medium term steering forecasts ( 48 to 72 hrs out ) and those all show the Azores high centered well off to the NE with a weakness off the US SE coast between the W flank of the high and another high over the Southern CONUS.

This is what the models are latching onto to allow 91L to make that WNW move until being forced more on a flatter track just N of Cuba.

The problem with all of this is that a slow mover like 91L can hang around far South long enough for the upper air dynamics to shift dramatically in any direction.

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2723. pcola57 11:54 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
60%...Hmmmm...NHC likes to play those middle numbers...i see 91L became more robust last night...i think 91L is gonna explode today and move north trying to get off the ITCZ a bit...JMO...not wish casting just my 2 cents...
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2724. WeatherNerdPR 11:55 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Dry air probably won't be a problem.

I'm noticing that 91L has so much moisture around it, Dry Air will moisten up by the time it gets to 91L.
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2725. stormwatcherCI 11:55 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings,
I see we have 91L. If I don't have one out by this afternoon, I'll have a synopsis on 91L late tonight.

Looking forward to it Storm and good morning to everyone.
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2726. boteman 11:56 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting clwstmchasr:
TWC on the update just said that the NHC gives it a "medium" chance for development.

I guess they didn't hit refresh on their computer.


TWC = The Worthless Channel
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2727. breald 11:57 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I am more tired this morning than I was last night LOL. Hopefully my golf game won't suffer too much today !.

I just took a look at the medium term steering forecasts ( 48 to 72 hrs out ) and those all show the Azores high centered well off to the NE with a weakness off the US SE coast between the W flank of the high and another high over the Southern CONUS.

This is what the models are latching onto to allow 91L to make that WNW move until being forced more on a flatter track just N of Cuba.

The problem with all of this is that a slow mover like 91L can hang around far South long enough for the upper air dynamics to shift dramatically in any direction.



Jet lag is always worse the next day. It sometimes takes me a few days to recover. I think your golf game is going to be a disappointment...lol
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2728. alaina1085 11:57 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I am more tired this morning than I was last night LOL. Hopefully my golf game won't suffer too much today !.

I just took a look at the medium term steering forecasts ( 48 to 72 hrs out ) and those all show the Azores high centered well off to the NE with a weakness off the US SE coast between the W flank of the high and another high over the Southern CONUS.

This is what the models are latching onto to allow 91L to make that WNW move until being forced more on a flatter track just N of Cuba.

The problem with all of this is that a slow mover like 91L can hang around far South long enough for the upper air dynamics to shift dramatically in any direction.


Hey Kman!
I was just asking everyone yesterday where you have been. I see you been out of the country. Hope you enjoyed, and drink an energy drink maybe that will help with your golf game? haha.
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2729. Caneguy 11:57 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:
My disclaimer...Everyone should not jump on the models with 91L today. Give them 24hours to lock onto the storm. Save all the model talk until tomorrow because the track that it spits out today will be way way off. Thanks.


I prefer to see the discussions on the models myself. Those who wish to talk about them, please feel free.
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2730. weatherwart 11:57 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I am more tired this morning than I was last night LOL. Hopefully my golf game won't suffer too much today !.

I just took a look at the medium term steering forecasts ( 48 to 72 hrs out ) and those all show the Azores high centered well off to the NE with a weakness off the US SE coast between the W flank of the high and another high over the Southern CONUS.

This is what the models are latching onto to allow 91L to make that WNW move until being forced more on a flatter track just N of Cuba.

The problem with all of this is that a slow mover like 91L can hang around far South long enough for the upper air dynamics to shift dramatically in any direction.



Yup. Anything can happen with a storm that's only moving about 5-10mph.

Take the cart. Play nine holes. ;)
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2731. IKE 11:57 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting boteman:


TWC = The Worthless Channel


I get a kick out of their "local on the 8's", 10 second intro, into the local weather....at :23 after the hour!!!!! WTH?
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2732. Dakster 11:59 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings,
I see we have 91L. If I don't have one out by this afternoon, I'll have a synopsis on 91L late tonight.



Good Morning Senior Chief...

Need me to make a coffee run for you?
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2733. IKE 11:59 AM GMT on August 01, 2010    
John Hope...you are missed. Never hyped his outlook. Straight shooter. Told it like it was.
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2734. kmanislander 12:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting breald:


Jet lag is always worse the next day. It sometimes takes me a few days to recover. I think your golf game is going to be a disappointment...lol


I hope not, we play for a dollar or two LOL
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2735. PRweathercenter 12:01 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting texwarhawk:
Looks like the man convection is trying to pull together.


I think we have a hurricane in the makings
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2736. PRweathercenter 12:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings,
I see we have 91L. If I don't have one out by this afternoon, I'll have a synopsis on 91L late tonight.


Good morning Storm, We look forward to it!
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2737. sebastianflorida 12:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
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2738. kmanislander 12:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

Hey Kman!
I was just asking everyone yesterday where you have been. I see you been out of the country. Hope you enjoyed, and drink an energy drink maybe that will help with your golf game? haha.


Hi there. I was off the blog for about 3 weeks on vacation and really enjoyed the break from work. First vacation in a year which is not good but some years are like that. Better busy than the alternative !.

August 1st is here and 91L with it right on cue. Just a watch and wait for now though.
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2739. mrsalagranny 12:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
This is the very thing Storm has been warning us about for the last 2 weeks.
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2740. IKE 12:04 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
91L looks like another monsoonal type...like Alex.

I don't see any ULL's around.
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2741. sebastianflorida 12:04 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
think this is of our friend
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2742. IKE 12:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


Hi there. I was off the blog for about 3 weeks on vacation and really enjoyed the break from work. First vacation in a year which is not good but some years are like that. Better busy than the alternative !.

August 1st is here and 91L with it right on cue. Just a watch and wait for now though.


3 week vacation..nice! Welcome back.
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2743. scott39 12:06 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Goodmorning-- Ike what do you think of the latest ECMWF 00 run?
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2745. sebastianflorida 12:06 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
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2746. PRweathercenter 12:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Invest 91 Possilbe Threat to Puerto Rico





Blog For Puerto Rico and N.island residentsLink
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2747. weatherwart 12:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
CNN is reporting deaths now more than one thousand from flooding in Pakistan. More monsoon rains are expected.
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2748. Dakster 12:08 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Yeah, looks like this one is at least heading for the "area" that Florida needs to be concerned about. (I won't mention the name).

Have to wait and see... Patiently (well not really) waiting for the experts synopsis on the forming storm.
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2749. Becca36 12:09 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting ho77yw00d:


morning Becca! :)

Morning Ho77yw00d!
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2750. InTheCone 12:09 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Wow, ECMWF really wants to ramp this up, which seems pretty reasonable. The track will have to be nailed down as time goes by....

ECMWF on 8-9...

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2751. kmanislander 12:09 PM GMT on August 01, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


3 week vacation..nice! Welcome back.


Actually two weeks. Hit the wrong key LOL. Maybe wishful thinking was at work there !
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