Tornadoes rip Oklahoma, killing 5; oil spill headed towards Texas

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:09 PM GMT on May 11, 2010

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Oklahoma residents are picking up the pieces and surveying the damage after a devastating tornado outbreak that left at least five people dead, dozens injured, and hundreds of millions in damage. Our severe weather expert, Dr. Rob Carver, has some amazing images and videos of the tornadoes in his blog. One solace Oklahomans can take in the disaster is that the data taken by scientists during the tornado outbreak may help forecasters issue better tornado warnings in the future. Usually, a proven way to reduce the incidence of dangerous weather phenomena is to schedule a multi-million dollar field experiment to study the phenomena. This is what happened last year, when the largest tornado field study ever conducted, Vortex2, kicked off. The $10 million study deployed an armada of over 100 storm chasing vehicles across the Great Plains, and were disappointed by one of the quietest tornado seasons in history. But it's pretty tough to have two consecutive record quiet tornado seasons in a row, so the Vortex2 program scheduled the study to run this year as well, beginning on May 1. Unfortunately for the residents of Oklahoma, the atmosphere unleashed one of its classic tornado outbreaks yesterday, in a region NOAA's Storm Prediction Center had outlined at "High Risk" for severe weather. The Vortex2 team was ideally positioned to intercept the tornadoes, according to the team of University of Michigan students that has been writing our featured Vortex2 blog, and I am told that they successfully collected what is probably the best data set even taken of a tornado outbreak. This was no mean feat, since yesterday's storms were moving 60 mph, making it extremely difficult to position the chase vehicles to capture the storm's secrets.


Figure 1. The Wakita, OK multiple-vortex tornado of May 10, 2010.

Oil spill may approach Texas early next week
The Deepwater Horizon oil spill has pushed steadily westward along the Louisiana coast, and is expected to reach central Louisiana near Atchafalaya Bay by Thursday, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA. Winds over the Gulf of Mexico this week will blow from the southeast at 15 - 20 knots, threatening to bring oil to large portions of the Louisiana coast. The Mississippi and Alabama coasts will also be at risk, but the risk to the Florida Panhandle is lower. It appears quite unlikely that oil will get into the Loop Current anytime over the next two weeks, and spread to the Florida Keys and beyond. However, the strong southeast winds are expected to shift more easterly late this week, and drive a westward-moving ocean surface current with a speed of 1 - 2 mph along the west coast of Louisiana late this week (Figure 2). This current may be capable of transporting oil all the way to the Louisiana/Texas border by Monday. However, the concentrations of oil in the water will be much less than what is present close to the blowout, and it is unclear what the potential danger is for the western Louisiana and eastern Texas coasts. The greatest danger is to the Eastern Louisiana coast.


Figure 2. Surface ocean current in the Gulf of Mexico on Friday, May 14, at 8pm EDT as forecast by the 8pm EDT run of the NOAA HYCOM model at 8pm EDT on Sunday, May 9, 2010. Note that a strong ocean current near 1 m/s (about 2 mph) is forecast to set up along the Western Louisiana coast, which could take oil close to the Texas offshore waters by Monday. Image credit: NOAA RTOFS.

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I'm in Tucson for the American Meteorological Society's 29th Conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology. I'll be posting Wednesday morning on some of the latest findings presented at the conference, or discussing yesterday's tornado outbreak.

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Murphy did a good job of not letting all the wise owls see this.

But ,it happened so the world should see what occurred ,,note the amounts folks. So were not in unknown territory as some would like to believe.

The claims were paid fast and furious to be sure.

Oct032005
Lawsuit Filed Against Murphy Oil
DateMonday, October 3, 2005 at 08:52PM





More than a month after Hurricane Katrina, environmental workers are still struggling to clean up the 50 oil spills along the Gulf Coast. An estimated 190,000 barrels, or nearly 8 million gallons of oil spilled into Louisiana's waterways and into some of its neighborhoods.
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Quoting gordydunnot:
Remember the samples are going to the same people who said the air was safe at the 911 site.I hate to be so critical its not really my nature but these are unique times we live in. I think it started around 1980.I think there was a novel or something about that year.


The Red Sox was haunted forever for giving away the Great Bambino......the US will be haunted for a long time for giving away the Panama Canal.....LOL
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Quoting Patrap:
To submit your vessel as a vessel of opportunity skimming system, or to submit alternative response technology, services, or products, call 281-366-5511.

One can focus their energies and pass their collective Ideas along here.Ive been posting the number for 12 days now.



To submit your vessel as a vessel of opportunity skimming system, or to submit alternative response technology, services, or products, call 281-366-5511.

I am not calling from here. But feel free if you see anything you think might interest them.
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Remember the samples are going to the same people who said the air was safe at the 911 site.I hate to be so critical its not really my nature but these are unique times we live in. I think it started around 1980.I think there was a novel or something about that year.
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Chalmette,Post K and crude,

This is what a Large Hurricane does to a Refinery near a residential area.




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Quoting hydrus:
Pat, By all means please use plenty of your VooDoo for the Saints second Superbowl win. But please save a few powerful pins for this years trolls. The trolls will be here. Pinch there heads off.


I promise the BUCS won't stand in front of any VooDoo Doll....they would be to scared and would run and hide.......LOL....another rough season coming for my BUCS!
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Quoting txjac:
Got a question. What impact, if any, will the ash that is drifting towards Africa have on the waves that come off of Africa in to the ocean? Will this impede the formation of waves?

Thanks in advance

The effect of ash, dust etc on storm systems is not properly understood as yet.
One theory is that particles could enhance rain by moisture bonding to them (providing there is moisture)
Another is that particles could reduce the effects by drying the air (dust particles cannot float about in damp air for long, they become heavy with moisture and fall)
Either way, I would be surprised if there is enough dust from the volcano to make any difference right now.
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Quoting Patrap:


Trade secrets are not to be divulged as we intend to re-peat.

The Miami game used the most though,no doubt.
And that second trip to Miami in Feb,..well..I was in a kinda dreamland ecstasy karma state, so its all a blur.

But the DVD look back is a daily noon thing here.

LOL
Pat, By all means please use plenty of your VooDoo for the Saints second Superbowl win. But please save a few powerful pins for this years trolls. The trolls will be here. Pinch there heads off.
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Quoting Patrap:


The Chalmette disaster post K was from the Murphy Refinery Crude Storage tank that collapsed.




Crude Oil and Floodwater from Katrina..always a nasty Cocktail.

Many had to wade thru it.

My Birthplace is Cochrane St,..near Kaiser.

munster blvd. meraux. the 3000 block right behind murphey holding tanks
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* For information about validated environmental air and water sampling results, visit www.epa.gov/bpspill.
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Hotlines:

* For information about the response effort, visit www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com.
* To contact the Deepwater Horizon Joint Information Center, call (985) 902-5231.
* To volunteer, or to report oiled shoreline, call (866) 448-5816. Volunteer opportunities can also be found here.
* To submit your vessel as a vessel of opportunity skimming system, or to submit alternative response technology, services, or products, call 281-366-5511.


* To report oiled wildlife, call (866)
557-1401. Messages will be checked hourly.


* For information about validated environmental air and water sampling results, visit www.epa.gov/bpspill.
* For National Park Service updates about potential park closures, resources at risk, and NPS actions to protect vital park space and wildlife, visit http://www.nps.gov/aboutus/oil-spill-response.htm.
* To file a claim, or report spill-related damage, call BP's helpline at (800) 440-0858. A BP fact sheet with additional information is available here. For those who have already pursued the BP claims process and are not satisfied with BP's resolution, can call the Coast Guard at (800) 280-7118. More information about what types of damages are eligible for compensation under the Oil Pollution Act as well as guidance on procedures to seek that compensation can be found here.

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To submit your vessel as a vessel of opportunity skimming system, or to submit alternative response technology, services, or products, call 281-366-5511.

One can focus their energies and pass their collective Ideas along here.Ive been posting the number for 12 days now.



To submit your vessel as a vessel of opportunity skimming system, or to submit alternative response technology, services, or products, call 281-366-5511.
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Quoting pottery:

Bigger than I thought. But still....


That still is not that large of pipe....I don't get it....
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Thanks for your responses. I will look into getting some air samples the next time is smells that strong.
My daughter does seem to have a very sensitive system, when she was just 3 she had a seizure from getting overheated playing outside on a warm spring day. Needless to say that since then I am very paranoid when it comes to her and my oldest daughters health.
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Quoting NRAamy:
133. pottery 10:58 AM PDT on May 11, 2010
Quoting NRAamy:
I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff

remind me never to piss you off!!!!!

You could NEVER do that!



that's 'cause we're not married!!!!

;)

That is completely NOT fair!!
heheheheheheh
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Quoting aspectre:
The casing has an interior diameter of 20inches/50centimetres. The drill pipe within has an interior diameter of 10inches/25centimetres.

Bigger than I thought. But still....
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I'm beginning to believe we may have a choke chain around our dolphin. I think we made some progress this year in the draft. But we should have two season of interest at the same time. Lets hope all stay safe in there respected seasons.
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Quoting sarahjola:
kelly- i remember after katrina going back to st. bernard the chimecal smell was so bad that everyone got bad headaches from it. if i were you i would keep my kids inside. we all know we can't trust everything government agencies tell us. if the air was ok then you wouldn't have head aches and vomiting. it might not give us cancer but just the strong smell alone is enough to cause health issues. asthma is one of those issues. strong chemical smells can triger asthma.


The Chalmette disaster post K was from the Murphy Refinery Crude Storage tank that collapsed.




Crude Oil and Floodwater from Katrina..always a nasty Cocktail.

Many had to wade thru it.

My Birthplace is Cochrane St,..near Kaiser.
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149. txjac
Got a question. What impact, if any, will the ash that is drifting towards Africa have on the waves that come off of Africa in to the ocean? Will this impede the formation of waves?

Thanks in advance
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133. pottery 10:58 AM PDT on May 11, 2010
Quoting NRAamy:
I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff

remind me never to piss you off!!!!!

You could NEVER do that!



that's 'cause we're not married!!!!

;)
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Quoting TampaSpin:


Assuming that is correct.......THOSE ARE NOT LARGE PIPES....and we cannot put a larger pipe over the top and seal off the cracked pipe to funnel it to the top......I DON'T BUY IT!
Agreed!
And why not fabricate a new Blow-out-Preventer (valve). Design it as a clam-shell arrangement, and place it around the leaking pipe.
Then cut the pipe above that.
Then slide the valve up to the cut.
Fix it there.
Close the valve.

You will have to contend with a couple of hours with a free-flowing well during the operation.
Oh. And test the whole operation underwater using the subs etc first. In a shallow depth where it can be observed and modified as needed.
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The casing has an interior diameter of 20inches/50centimetres. The drill pipe within has an interior diameter of 10inches/25centimetres.
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Quoting gordydunnot:
Pat out of curiosity who did you have to stick the most pins in, and how many did our poor dolphin get.


Trade secrets are not to be divulged as we intend to re-peat.

The Miami game used the most though,no doubt.
And that second trip to Miami in Feb,..well..I was in a kinda dreamland ecstasy karma state, so its all a blur.

But the DVD look back is a daily noon thing here.

LOL
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Quoting Patrap:


Take air samples if you can,..One can find out how by googling "Taking air Samples"..

Last evening the crude smell wafted over Uptown as the winds came round from the Se. Kelly.

As the flow spreads and this Se Flow persists,were going to have periods of time when the odor will be smelled and inhaled.



Smelled it in Covington last night, too.

If I knew more about the health effects, I could offer a little more to the concerned parent...

Everything published, that I have seen, says that the air is generally okay, but also that sensitive groups might be, um, ah, sensitive.
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Quoting Patrap:
As per the last info I have,..the riser flow was between 2500-3000 psi at Leak 1,nearer the BOP.

Its problematic as to placing the newer top hat as well.
Remember,,the Crude has sand and other grit thats wearing away at these exit points on the riser and Bop..
So the flow will only increase as the hoels or cracks open.

Thats a Major concern not well spoken at in the media,if at all.

The Best bet is the relief well,,from DD-3 in progress,so the whole Nation should be rooting for the 2 12 hour drill shifts making headway.

Remember..their Lives are just as much at risk for another blowout.

Working the Canyon aint working near shore.
No way indeed.


Ahead of schedule last I heard. That has been my feeling for some time now is that the only solution to the problem is the relief well.
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kelly- i remember after katrina going back to st. bernard the chimecal smell was so bad that everyone got bad headaches from it. if i were you i would keep my kids inside. we all know we can't trust everything government agencies tell us. if the air was ok then you wouldn't have head aches and vomiting. it might not give us cancer but just the strong smell alone is enough to cause health issues. asthma is one of those issues. strong chemical smells can triger asthma.
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Pat out of curiosity who did you have to stick the most pins in, and how many did our poor dolphin get.
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Is the ECMWF May forecast of the MSLP,ENSO and precipitation out?
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Great stuff to view! "E" explosions 11th may, seen by helicopter.
http://http.ruv.straumar.is/static.ruv.is/vefur/11052010_eldgos.wmv
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As per the last info I have,..the riser flow was between 2500-3000 psi at Leak 1,nearer the BOP.

Its problematic as to placing the newer top hat as well.
Remember,,the Crude has sand and other grit thats wearing away at these exit points on the riser and Bop..
So the flow will only increase as the leaks or cracks open.

Thats a Major concern not well spoken at in the media,if at all.

The Best bet is the relief well,,from DD-3 in progress,so the whole Nation should be rooting for the 2 12 hour drill shifts making headway.

Remember..their Lives are just as much at risk for another blowout.

Working the Canyon aint like working near shore in the shallows.
No way indeed.
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Quoting pottery:

Not sure. But 15,000 psi was mentioned early, and not a lot of pressure has been released since then. (the initial blowout pressure was much higher than that, due to Methane expansion etc.
I would assume that the riser is part of the Casing, and about 12" dia. and the production pipe (not sure if this was installed) would be about 4.5" dia.
Patrap may know.......


Assuming that is correct.......THOSE ARE NOT LARGE PIPES....and we cannot put a larger pipe over the top and seal off the cracked pipe to funnel it to the top......I DON'T BUY IT!
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The ash cloud is huge now over the atlantic now.

A cloud of volcanic ash from Iceland has forced airports in North Africa to shut for the first time, as well as hitting air travel in southern Spain.
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Quoting pottery:

Yeah!! I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff.
Never fails.
(unlike my Calabash tree. BAH!!)
Good idea. VooDoo is an officially recognized religion these days. prick and pray away..:)
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Concerning the canceled PC Pat. You know the old saying if you cannot say something nice don't say anything at all.
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Quoting NRAamy:
I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff

remind me never to piss you off!!!!!

You could NEVER do that!
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Quoting nishinigami:
Hey Pat or anyone else that may know the answer :)

A week or so ago, when the winds first started out of the south, we had a fuel smell for days here in Plaquemines. The worst night, my 6 year old who had been playing outside for hours, started throwing up. Next day, she was good as gold, never showed any signs of illness. Since then the winds have been in our favor, but last night my neighbor and I both noticed the smell of fuel in the air once again. Has anyone seen any information on how the oil spill is affecting air quality, and could it possibly affect the health of children. I am now worried about my kids playing outdoors when I can smell it.

Thanks everyone

Kelley


Take air samples if you can,..One can find out how by googling "Taking air Samples"..

Last evening the crude smell wafted over Uptown as the winds came round from the Se. Kelly.

As the flow spreads and this Se Flow persists,were going to have periods of time when the odor will be smelled and inhaled.


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Quoting Patrap:
Keep working dat Voodoo Pottery,..shucks I wore out 20 Opponents with Pins Last year to Win Da Super Bowl..

LOL

heheheheh
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Quoting TampaSpin:
I wonder what the PSI behind the Oil leakage is? Does anyone know? What are the size of the riser pipes if anyone knows i would greatly appreciate it.

Not sure. But 15,000 psi was mentioned early, and not a lot of pressure has been released since then. (the initial blowout pressure was much higher than that, due to Methane expansion etc.
I would assume that the riser is part of the Casing, and about 12" dia. and the production pipe (not sure if this was installed) would be about 4.5" dia.
Patrap may know.......
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Quoting TampaSpin:


Its just my opinion and having a friend that worked on the exact same setup and he is an engineer he, too is saying something is wrong......JUST MY OPINION!
and its a good one that i agree with
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I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff

remind me never to piss you off!!!!!
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Hey Pat or anyone else that may know the answer :)

A week or so ago, when the winds first started out of the south, we had a fuel smell for days here in Plaquemines. The worst night, my 6 year old who had been playing outside for hours, started throwing up. Next day, she was good as gold, never showed any signs of illness. Since then the winds have been in our favor, but last night my neighbor and I both noticed the smell of fuel in the air once again. Has anyone seen any information on how the oil spill is affecting air quality, and could it possibly affect the health of children. I am now worried about my kids playing outdoors when I can smell it.

Thanks everyone

Kelley
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Quoting sarahjola:

i hear ya. it has to be something more than just a hole that needs to be capped off. you're right. to think that we don't have the brains to put a pipe in a hole no matter how deep it is, is beyond me. it would be harder to fix a crack.


Its just my opinion and having a friend that worked on the exact same setup and he is an engineer he, too is saying something is wrong......JUST MY OPINION!
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Keep working dat Voodoo Pottery,..shucks I wore out 20 Opponents with Pins Last year to Win Da Super Bowl..

LOL
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Quoting hydrus:
Sound kinda confident there Pott...:)

Yeah!! I been burnin' black candles and sticking pins in dolls and stuff.
Never fails.
(unlike my Calabash tree. BAH!!)
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I wonder what the PSI behind the Oil leakage is? Does anyone know? What are the size of the riser pipes if anyone knows i would greatly appreciate it.
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Quoting pottery:

Yer doooomed in this one, Aussie.......
Sound kinda confident there Pott...:)
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The PC for Today from the Unified Command Center has been canceled.




Update: No press conference today in Robert, La.




* Report oiled shoreline or request volunteer information:
(866)-448-5816
* Submit alternative response technology, services or products:
(281) 366-5511
* Submit your vessel for the Vessel of Opportunity Program:
(281) 366-5511
* Submit a claim for damages:
(800) 440-0858

* Report oiled wildlife:
(866) 557-1401





Deepwater Horizon Incident
Joint Information Center

Phone: (985) 902-5231
(985) 902-5240


ROBERT, La. - There will not be a 2 p.m. press conference today at the Unified Command facility in Robert.
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