Flooding from record rains kills 11 in Tennessee; oil spill update

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:52 PM GMT on May 03, 2010

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Nashville, Tennessee remains virtually paralyzed this morning thanks to that city's heaviest recorded 1-day and 2-day rainfall in its history. A remarkable 7.25" of rain fell on the city Sunday, breaking the record for most rain in a single day (previously 6.60", set September 13, 1979.) Nashville's third greatest day of rainfall on record occurred Saturday, when 6.32" fell. Nashville also eclipsed its greatest 6-hour and 12-hour rainfall events on record, with 5.57" and 7.20", respectively, falling on Sunday. And, remarkably, only 2 days into the month, May 2010 is already the wettest May on record for Nashville.

Rainfall records were smashed all across Tennessee and Kentucky, with amounts as high as 17.73" recorded at Camden, TN, and 17.02" at Brownsville, TN. According to Chris Burt, the author of the excellent book Extreme Weather, the 13.30" that fell on Camden in 24 hours just missed eclipsing the state's all-time 24-hour precipitation record, the 13.60" inches that fell on Milan on September 13, 1982. Jackson, Tennessee had its rainiest day in its 63-year weather history on Sunday, 7.93". Bowling Green, Kentucky had its heaviest 2-day precipitation event on record, 9.67". Records in Bowling Green go back to 1870. The University of Wisconsin GOES Satellite Blog has some excellent imagery showing the remarkable plume of tropical moisture that crossed over Central America from the Eastern Pacific and fed the record rains.


Figure 1. Radar estimated rainfall for May 1 - 2, 2010 from the Nashville, Tennessee radar. A large region of the Tennessee and Kentucky received over ten inches of rain, with many areas receiving more than fifteen inches.


Figure 2. Flood forecast for the Cumberland River in Nashville, Tennessee. Image credit: NOAA.

The record rains triggered massive flooding that has killed at least eleven people in Tennessee, with two missing. The Cumberland River in downtown Nashville has surged to a height of 51', which is 11' over flood height, and the highest level the river has reached since a flood control project was completed in the early 1960s. The river is expected to crest this afternoon at 11.5' above flood stage, bringing flood waters to a large portion of the downtown area. The mayor has ordered all schools, parks, and libraries closed today, and commuter bus and train services have also been suspended. Five people died in Nashville due to the flooding. The Harpeth River at Bellevue, Tennessee to its greatest flood height since record keeping began in 1921. The river had a depth of 2 feet early Saturday morning before the rains began, and was running at a depth of 29' early this morning, breaking the record of 24.34' set in 1948. (To check out the flood heights, use our wundermap for Nashville with the "USGS River" layer turned on.) The Duck River at Hurricane Mills reached 28.7' yesterday morning before its streamgage stopped operating, its 2nd greatest flood height since record keeping began in 1926 (record: 30.7' in 1948.)

The record rains were accompanied by a surge of very warm air that set record high temperature marks at 21 major airports across the Eastern U.S. on Saturday; 19 more records were set on Sunday. This is not surprising, since more moisture can evaporate into warmer air, making record-setting rainfall events more likely when record high temperatures are present.


Figure 3. A portable classroom building from a nearby high school floats past submerged cars on I-24 near Nashville, TN on May 1, 2010. One person died in the flooding in this region of I-24. Roughly 200 - 250 vehicles got submerged on this section of I-24, according to wunderphotographer laughingjester, who was a tow truck operator called in to clear out the stranded vehicles.

Funding issues to take 17 Tennessee streamgages offline
According to the USGS web site, seventeen Tennessee streamflow gages with records going back up to 85 years will stop collecting data on July 1 because of budget cuts. With up to thirteen people in Tennessee dying from flooding this weekend, now hardly seems to be the time to be skimping on monitoring river flow levels by taking 17 of Tennessee's 94 streamflow gages out of service. These gages are critical for proper issuance of flood warnings to people in harm's way. Furthermore, Tennessee and most of the northern 2/3 of the U.S. can expect a much higher incidence of record flooding in coming decades. This will be driven by two factors: increased urban development causing faster run-off, and an increase in very heavy precipitation events due to global warming. Both factors have already contributed to significant increases in flooding events in recent decades over much of the U.S. According the landmark 2009 U.S. Climate Impact Report from the U.S. Global Change Research Program, "the amount of rain falling in the heaviest downpours has increased approximately 20 percent on average in the past century, and this trend is very likely to continue, with the largest increases in the wettest places." The USGS web site advertises that users who can contribute funding for the non-Federal share of costs to continue operation of these streamgages should contact Shannon Williams of the USGS Tennessee Water Science Center at 615-837-4755 or swilliam@usgs.gov. Tennessee is not the only state with streamgages at risk of closing down; fully 276 gages in 37 states have been shut down or will be shut down later this year (Figure 4.)


Figure 4. Streamgages that have been discontinued or are being considered for discontinuation or for conversion from continuous record discharge to stage-only stations. Funds for these 276 threatened streamgages are from the U.S. Geological Survey and other Federal, State, Tribal, and local agencies. For those streamgages that have already been discontinued, extensive efforts were made to find another funding source; however, when no funding was made available the streamgages had to be discontinued. For those streamgages at risk for discontinuation, the current funding source has indicated that it can no longer fund the streamgage. Efforts are currently underway to identify another funding source for the operation of these streamgages; however, if no funding is identified, then these streamgages will have to be discontinued also. If you have questions about specific streamgages, click on the state of concern on the USGS web page of threatened stream gages.

Oil spill update
The oil slick from the April 20 explosion and blowout of the offshore oil rig Deepwater Horizon has retreated from the coast, thanks to a slackening of the persistent onshore winds that have affected the northern Gulf of Mexico over the past week. Onshore winds of 10 - 15 knots will continue today, according to the latest NWS marine forecast, then shift to sideshore (out of the west) on Tuesday, as a cold front passes. Winds will then resume a weak onshore flow at 5 - 10 knots, Wednesday through Friday. These winds should cause only a slow transport of the oil slick towards the coast. I don't expect the spill will affect any land areas for the remainder of the week, with the possible exception of the mouth of the Mississippi River in Louisiana and the Chandeleur Islands. The latest forecast of Gulf currents from the NOAA HYCOM model (see also this alternative view of the HYCOM ocean current forecast) show weak ocean currents affecting the region during the remainder of the week. These currents will not be strong enough to push any oil southwards into the Loop Current over the next five days, so the Keys and South Florida are safe from oil for now.


Figure 5. Previous location and forecast location for tomorrow of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Image credit: NOAA Office of Response and Restoration. See also the trajectory maps available at State of Louisiana web site.

Jeff Masters

Flooding on I-24 (XMLP)
Flooding on I-24
Lick Creek Bridge (Wingman100)
God is cleaning out the creek and I think making a statement about cleanliness
Lick Creek Bridge
Removing the flood damaged cars and trucks. (laughingjester)
I am a wrecker driver for Martin's wrecker service. We were called to remove the vehicles that got caught in the flooding on interstate I 24 westbound near the Bell Road exit in Nashville Tennessee. Of course this is after the waters had subsided. It was roughly 200, 250 cars and trucks that got caught up in the flood. The debris to left is actually the remnants of a portable classroom that floated alongside the interstate and eventually rolled over and disintegrated.
Removing the flood damaged cars and trucks.

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Ike, Are you trying to say that Prozak is in order?
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408. IKE
401....omg....mellow out....calm down...please....
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407. beell
That would be the the acoustically operated shutin, Pat. Designed to be taken off the platform if you got to go in a hurry. You could activate it from a lifeboat. Norway and Brazil require them. Most if not all rigs in the N Sea have them-required or not. The oil companies claimed they might not be effective in deep water.

May not have worked in this case since they can't get the BOP to work with an ROV parked on top of the stack. But....
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Pat, I'm scared of who we will have to deal with once the season gets going if they are out like this now.
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Quoting help4u:
GOVERNMENT DID NOT HAVE ONE FIRE BOOM THAT COULD OF STOPPED THIS DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Incompetence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Although far from being an Obama supporter i can't blame him for this. Yes he could have reacted faster but, other adminstrtations failed to own this as will. But, if his adminstration had inquired about this from day 2 this could have been better controlled. If he "Obama" did not surround himself and appoint good people that knows about these things this was easily overlooked one would think.
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Quoting Beachfoxx:
Pat,

News says Sat. Images showing the oil spill to be smaller & possibly breaking up?


I hope so..the Winds were bumpy and Im curious as to the latest Imagery.




May 1 Imagery,Color
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Pat,

News says Sat. Images showing the oil spill to be smaller & possibly breaking up?
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help4u, an appropriate blog name, have a nice cup of Chamomile Tea and chill out.
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Quoting Patrap:
A Acoustical BOP as required for all European Drilling with a Riser Design,would have prevented the Blowout as it would have automatically sealed the Pipe after the first failed.

By the acoustical signal that would have triggered it.

Hardly moot.


I dunno.. perhaps.. I will have to read more. To this point, everything I have read suggests that it is simply a failure of the BOP, maybe as you suggest, this device could have sheared the pipe before anything got in the way.. I was thinking last night that I hope they come in with the second well so they can yank the entire BOP assembly up to examine it.
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I haven't bought one, yet. Everyone I know who has loves it.
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


Thanks......Have a stream on the back of my property which floods the basement if we get enough rain so just anticipating whether I have to sandbag the door this evening.....I'd rather be safe than sorry so I'll do it when I get home later tonight......... :)
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Or should I wait for generation 2?
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Or should I wait for generation 2?
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398. IKE
FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
555 PM EDT MON MAY 3 2010

FLC131-040000-
/O.NEW.KTAE.FA.W.0006.100503T2155Z-100504T0000Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
WALTON FL-
455 PM CDT MON MAY 3 2010

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED A

* FLOOD WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL WALTON COUNTY IN THE PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF DE FUNIAK SPRINGS...

* UNTIL 700 PM CDT

* AT 453 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED AN
AREA OF STRONG AND SLOW MOVING THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING VERY HEAVY
RAINFALL ACROSS THE AREA. THESE STORMS ARE PRODUCING RAINFALL RATES
OF 3 TO 4 INCHES PER HOUR...WITH TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS OF UP TO 6 TO 8
INCHES POSSIBLE THROUGH THE EARLY EVENING.

A FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR HAS BEEN REPORTED
ALL INTERESTED PARTIES SHOULD TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS IMMEDIATELY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN AUTOMOBILES. NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO
AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY
DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED
ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE...TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE ELEVATED LEVELS ON
SMALL CREEKS AND STREAMS...AND PONDING OF WATER ON COUNTRY ROADS AND
FARMLAND ALONG THE BANKS OF CREEKS AND STREAMS.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE
ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS
SAFELY. MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

* REPORT FLOODING OR FLOOD DAMAGE TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN
TALLAHASSEE AT (8 5 0) 9 4 2 8 8 3 3. OR...YOU MAY CONTACT THE
NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

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"Oil Gnats",...big time

Sprayyyyyyyyyyy..."spfffftttttt"...
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Quick subject change...has anyone bought an iPad and are you happy with it?


Or should I wait for generation 2?
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A Acoustical BOP as required for all European Drilling with a Riser Design,would have prevented the Blowout as it would have automatically sealed the Pipe after the first failed.

By the acoustical signal that would have triggered it.

Hardly moot.
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Commercial Diving;And How Deep is Deep?
by E. R. CROSS



Full saturation diving has been conducted to depths of nearly 2,000 feet. One classic saturation dive for a crew of eight divers was to 600 feet for 30 days. Several additional days were required for decompression. There is some indication that humans diving to depths greater than 2,000 feet may be subjected to tissue damage, besides the real potential for bends and other physiological problems.
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Quoting Patrap:
..But some things still make ones head shake in ,"Gee whizz Golly mode"

A $500,000 switch could have possibly averted the billion or more catastrophe awaiting us

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill could end up being the worst American man-made environmental catastrophe of this generation. With the oil still spilling and investigations into the causes yet to come, it's too early to neatly assign blame to any one person. But for now, let's hold Dick Cheney personally responsible for the whole thing.

Here's the evidence: The Wall Street Journal reports that the oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch. The reason it didn't have a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have? According to environmental lawyer Mike Papantonio, it's because Dick Cheney's energy task force decided that the $500,000 switches were too expensive, and they didn't want to make BP buy any.

Is that not enough reason to blame the former Dark Lord of the Naval Observatory? Guess what: Halliburton is involved, too! The Los Angeles Times reports that BP contracted Dick Cheney's old company to cement the deepwater drill hole. Cementing the hole was, according to the U.S. Minerals Management Service, "the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period." And Hallburton is already under investigation for faulty cementing in an Australian well last year.

The spill will very likely destroy the fragile economies of at least five states and it could even plunge the nation back into a recession.

So thanks, Dick.

Nice work.


If the BOP cannot physically be operated, I do not see how some remote device would make any difference.. the entire mess revolves around the failure of the BOP.. I think this line of coulda shoulda is moot.. something happened to the BOP that caused it to fail.
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The government can't save anything ,they have spent and stole our money and now will tax the country into the ash heap of history!!If government had acted 10 days ago by using 1994 program to burn the oil you would not be talking about a great enviromental disaster!!!We did not even have ONE fire boom!!!This president needs to stay with community organizing!!
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Quick subject change...has anyone bought an iPad and are you happy with it?
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Jill's Monday oil spill update from Plaquemines

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Posted on May 3, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Jill Hezeau has the latest on the oil spill preparations and effects on Plaquemines Parish from Venice, Louisiana Monday.
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Can deep divers work at 5000ft. I know the world record is 9000ft but, can one work for much time at 5000ft.
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1994 "IN-situ burn"plan was not used because government had to call illinios company because they did not have a fire boom.The boom can burn 75,000 gallons of oil an hour.Raising the possobility of containing the oil 100 miles from shore!!!Company had sold their last boom so government had to call other countries to see if they could borrow a boom for a few days!!Gouget former noaa spill director said 95%of spill could have been contained!!YOUR GOVERNMENT LED BY NAPO AND OBAMA AT WORK!!
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Quoting Beachfoxx:
Wannabe,

I just left Destin, to go north to N'ville. We've had approx. 5" of rain in N'ville since about 2:30CST.


Thanks......Have a stream on the back of my property which floods the basement if we get enough rain so just anticipating whether I have to sandbag the door this evening.....I'd rather be safe than sorry so I'll do it when I get home later tonight......... :)
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385. DEKRE
A comment I made in a former blog:

Its been quite a few years since I was involved in oil spill research, however, I tried to keep up to date.

Oil eating bacteria are not man-made, they have been around for many millions of years. You find them at any natural petroleum seep, and these are quite common. I think pottery is living near two of the best known ones. These bacteria are perfect for cleaning up, but it is a long process - not applicable to an acute spill.


Concerning chemicals used for dispersal, a good paper is at Link

And just a little point to think about, after the Exxon Valdez disaster, areas which were left alone, i.e. not cleaned, recovered quite a bit faster then the cleaned areas.
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Seems the foul odor is carried by the wind from BOTH directions.

LOL
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..But some things still make ones head shake in ,"Gee whizz Golly mode"

A $500,000 switch could have possibly averted the billion or more catastrophe awaiting us

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill could end up being the worst American man-made environmental catastrophe of this generation. With the oil still spilling and investigations into the causes yet to come, it's too early to neatly assign blame to any one person. But for now, let's hold Dick Cheney personally responsible for the whole thing.

Here's the evidence: The Wall Street Journal reports that the oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch. The reason it didn't have a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have? According to environmental lawyer Mike Papantonio, it's because Dick Cheney's energy task force decided that the $500,000 switches were too expensive, and they didn't want to make BP buy any.

Is that not enough reason to blame the former Dark Lord of the Naval Observatory? Guess what: Halliburton is involved, too! The Los Angeles Times reports that BP contracted Dick Cheney's old company to cement the deepwater drill hole. Cementing the hole was, according to the U.S. Minerals Management Service, "the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period." And Hallburton is already under investigation for faulty cementing in an Australian well last year.

The spill will very likely destroy the fragile economies of at least five states and it could even plunge the nation back into a recession.

So thanks, Dick.

Nice work.
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Quoting tkeith:
I heard a biologist interviewed today that said it would be broken down by organisms. But he thought the chemical used to sink it would worse effect than the oil...cant remember his name or credentials.


As much Gulf Shrimp and Seafood that i and my family eat. Geesh, i guess that will all change now. Anyone wanta buy a nice fishing boat.....UNREAL!
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Quoting CycloneOz:
Quote Obama from his Sunday speech:

"And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one. After the explosion on the drilling rig, it began with an aggressive search-and-rescue effort to evacuate 115 people, including three badly injured. And my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the 11 workers who have not yet -- who have not been found."

"When the drill unit sank on Thursday [4/22/2010], we immediately and intensely investigated by remotely operated vehicles the entire 5,000 feet of pipe that's on the floor of the ocean. In that process, three leaks were identified."

SPILL OF NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE DETERMINATION: 4/29/2010

His remark "And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one," is LAUGHABLE!

Quoting CycloneOz:
Some good news coming out of New Orleans.

NEW ORLEANS — BP reported some glimmers of progress on Monday in its efforts to stem oil leaks from an undersea well off the Louisiana coast that have created what President Obama called a “potentially unprecedented environmental disaster.”

Bill Salvin, a company spokesman, said that crews had finished building a containment dome, a 4-story, 70-ton structure that the company plans to lower into place over one of the three leaks to catch the escaping oil and allow it to be pumped to the surface. The other two domes would be completed on Tuesday, Mr. Salvin said, and crews hoped to install all three domes by the weekend.

“That will essentially eliminate most of the issues you have with oil in the water,” he said.

The company was also trying on Monday to install a shutoff valve at the site of one of the three leaks. But according to David Nicholas, a BP spokesman, after the stormy weather of the weekend, the seas at the site had still not calmed enough by midafternoon for the valve mechanism to be hoisted safely out of a support ship.

Good to hear.
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Quoting lickitysplit:
Now that private industry has destroyed the GOM, its fun to see the conservatives crying out for the government to save us.


There are some things that the fed is ultimately responsible for:

Defense of the nation
Securing our borders
Disaster response
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Now that private industry has destroyed the GOM, its fun to see the conservatives crying out for the government to save us.
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Stopping the Oil Flow is whats important.

...all else in Bantha Fodder.



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377. IKE
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
Is Ike still around?......Trying to figure our how much rain I might get over in the Big Bend North of Tallahassee.........Seems from radar like it's been raining around Defuniak for the past several hours.........


I'm here. I've had around 1 1/4 inches at my house. I live north of DeFuniak Spgs. In town they've had over 2 1/2 inches of rain.
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Some good news coming out of New Orleans.

NEW ORLEANS — BP reported some glimmers of progress on Monday in its efforts to stem oil leaks from an undersea well off the Louisiana coast that have created what President Obama called a “potentially unprecedented environmental disaster.”

Bill Salvin, a company spokesman, said that crews had finished building a containment dome, a 4-story, 70-ton structure that the company plans to lower into place over one of the three leaks to catch the escaping oil and allow it to be pumped to the surface. The other two domes would be completed on Tuesday, Mr. Salvin said, and crews hoped to install all three domes by the weekend.

“That will essentially eliminate most of the issues you have with oil in the water,” he said.

The company was also trying on Monday to install a shutoff valve at the site of one of the three leaks. But according to David Nicholas, a BP spokesman, after the stormy weather of the weekend, the seas at the site had still not calmed enough by midafternoon for the valve mechanism to be hoisted safely out of a support ship.
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Pat what does all of this Crude oil floating do to the bottom......some of this has to be getting to the Bottom and destroying everything below...
I heard a biologist interviewed today that said it would be broken down by organisms. But he thought the chemical used to sink it would worse effect than the oil...cant remember his name or credentials.
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Quoting CycloneOz:
Quote Obama from his Sunday speech:

"And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one. After the explosion on the drilling rig, it began with an aggressive search-and-rescue effort to evacuate 115 people, including three badly injured. And my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the 11 workers who have not yet -- who have not been found."

"When the drill unit sank on Thursday [4/22/2010], we immediately and intensely investigated by remotely operated vehicles the entire 5,000 feet of pipe that's on the floor of the ocean. In that process, three leaks were identified."

SPILL OF NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE DETERMINATION: 4/29/2010

His remark "And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one," is LAUGHABLE!



He understands that a good defense now will make the lack of efforts in offense from later.
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Quoting CycloneOz:
Quote Obama from his Sunday speech:

"And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one. After the explosion on the drilling rig, it began with an aggressive search-and-rescue effort to evacuate 115 people, including three badly injured. And my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the 11 workers who have not yet -- who have not been found."

"When the drill unit sank on Thursday [4/22/2010], we immediately and intensely investigated by remotely operated vehicles the entire 5,000 feet of pipe that's on the floor of the ocean. In that process, three leaks were identified."

SPILL OF NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE DETERMINATION: 4/29/2010

His remark "And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one," is LAUGHABLE!



What did designating a spill of national significance do? Basically it replaced the On Scene Coordinator (Rear Adm. Mary Landry) with the National Incident Commander (Adm. Thad Allen). All of the other actions in the Oil Spill Response Plan were already ongoing.

5.3.5 Enhanced activities during a spill of national significance. (a) A discharge may be classified as an SONS by the Administrator of EPA for discharges occurring in the inland zone and the Commandant of the USCG for discharges occurring in the coastal zone.

(b) For an SONS in the inland zone, the EPA Administrator may name a senior Agency official to assist the OSC in: (1) Communicating with affected parties and the public; and (2) coordinating federal, state, local, and international resources at the national level. This strategic coordination will involve, as appropriate, the NRT, RRT(s), the Governor(s) of affected state(s), and the mayor(s) or other chief executive(s) of local government(s).

(c) For an SONS in the coastal zone, the USCG Commandant may name a National Incident Commander (NIC) who will assume the role of the OSC in: (1) Communicating with affected parties and the public; and (2) coordinating federal, state, local, and international resources at the national level. This strategic coordination shall involve, as appropriate, the NRT, RRT(s), the Governor(s) of affected state(s), and the mayor(s) or other chief executive(s) of local government(s).

Link
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Wannabe,

I just left Destin, to go north to N'ville. We've had approx. 5" of rain in N'ville since about 2:30CST.
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
Is Ike still around?......Trying to figure our how much rain I might get over in the Big Bend North of Tallahassee.........Seems from radar like it's been raining around Defuniak for the past several hours.........
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Quoting Patrap:
The Tea "Boil-eth" over..

I heard nice size crowd of Republican Politicians from south Louisiana this mornin sayin the current administration was on top of it and they were pleased with the effort. In the real world sometimes politics can be put aside to get things done...

I guess you cant please everybody all the time.

That north wind feels nice today...
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can't they just throw some kitty litter on it?
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Pat what does all of this Crude oil floating do to the bottom......some of this has to be getting to the Bottom and destroying everything below...
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Alright going to eat chinese food see you later!
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Quoting gordydunnot:
I don't think we have seen anything yet Pat.




Im with u Gordy..




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Pat I also believe it is oil left on the stove which maybe a little more dangerous if you know what I mean.
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I don't think we have seen anything yet Pat.
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The Tea "Boil-eth" over..

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I like the idea of finding a solution
burning only gets surface oil
and it's nearly impossible to use nets to scoop it all up
I was thinking bioremediation, using bacteria to break-down the oil, I think that might cause an upset in the food web though.
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361. CJ5
Quoting kingy:


you're new here aren't you son? your vested interest is a little too obvious though...


No, I am not new here. I think I have been around here for many years.

I have no vested interest in anything related to this other than it needs to be fixed and cleaned up. Is there anything else about this I should be concerned about?
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Quoting CycloneOz:
Quote Obama from his Sunday speech:

And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one. After the explosion on the drilling rig, it began with an aggressive search-and-rescue effort to evacuate 115 people, including three badly injured. And my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the 11 workers who have not yet -- who have not been found.

When the drill unit sank on Thursday [4/22/2010], we immediately and intensely investigated by remotely operated vehicles the entire 5,000 feet of pipe that's on the floor of the ocean. In that process, three leaks were identified.

SPILL OF NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE DETERMINATION: 4/29/2010

His remark "And that's why the federal government has launched and coordinated an all-hands-on-deck, relentless response to this crisis from day one," is LAUGHABLE!



I have to say that I agree with this and "If Obama was overseeing this from day one why would it take him 8 days to come on TV to say that".... and if so he missed a heck of a chance to get back on TV....
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