Polish president dies in plane crash during heavy fog

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:06 PM GMT on April 10, 2010

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Always obey your air traffic controllers. That's the cardinal rule of of aviation, and one apparently violated by the pilot of the aircraft carrying the Polish president and dozens of the country's top political and military leaders, which crashed in heavy fog this morning near Smolensk, Russia. All 96 people aboard perished. According to the New York Times, air traffic controllers had recommended the president's jet land in nearby Minsk because of bad visibility, but the crew decided to land anyway. The Polish news channel TVN24 reported that moments before the crash, air traffic controllers had refused a Russian military aircraft permission to land, but that they could not refuse permission to the Polish plane. Russian media reported that the airplane's crew made several attempts to land before a wing hit the treetops and the plane crashed about half a mile from the runway.


Figure 1. a large patch of fog covers the Russian city of Smolensk and regions to the east in this visible light image captured by NASA's Terra satellite between 08:00 - 11:15 UTC Saturday, April 10, 2010. Image credit: NASA MODIS Rapid Response System, visualized using Google Earth.

At 10 am local time, near the time of the crash, the Smolensk airport reported heavy fog with visibility 0.5 km (3/10 of a mile). As seen in the satellite image taken near this time (Figure 1), a large bank of fog covered Smolensk and neighboring regions of Russia and Belarus.

Jeff Masters

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Sky,
I can't get in either !!
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Quoting Skyepony:
I still can't get in there..someone try this one..

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/tropical.asp

I can't get in either
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276. Skyepony (Mod)
TSUNAMI INFORMATION STATEMENT NUMBER 1
NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER EWA BEACH HI
1155 PM HST SAT APR 10 2010

TO - CIVIL DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF HAWAII

SUBJECT - TSUNAMI INFORMATION

THIS STATEMENT IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. NO ACTION REQUIRED.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 1141 PM HST 10 APR 2010
COORDINATES - 11.0 SOUTH 161.1 EAST
LOCATION - SOLOMON ISLANDS
MAGNITUDE - 7.0 MOMENT

EVALUATION

BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE DATA A DESTRUCTIVE PACIFIC-WIDE TSUNAMI IS
NOT EXPECTED AND THERE IS NO TSUNAMI THREAT TO HAWAII. REPEAT. A
DESTRUCTIVE PACIFIC-WIDE TSUNAMI IS NOT EXPECTED AND THERE IS NO
TSUNAMI THREAT TO HAWAII.

THIS WILL BE THE ONLY STATEMENT ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT UNLESS
ADDITIONAL DATA ARE RECEIVED.
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275. Skyepony (Mod)
I still can't get in there..someone try this one..

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/tropical.asp
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Storms drench the country's interior
Josh Fisher, Sunday April 11, 2010

Persistent showers and storms have dumped the heaviest April rain in around ten years over interior parts of the Northern Territory.

A trough stretching from the country's northwest into the east has brought a soaking, with days of rainy weather bringing amounts well over the April average already.

Alice Springs picked up another 15mm to 9am this morning bringing their total amount for the month to 41mm, that's 24mm above the normal. This already makes it their wettest April in 11 years.

Jervois saw their heaviest 24 hour rain for April in 10 years with 42mm, bringing their monthly average to 67mm. The rain also helped to keep the maximum 11 degrees below average at 19 degrees.

Some areas even saw amounts topping 50mm. Atula was drenched with 63mm of rain and further north, Kelly Creek saw 53mm.

The rain has now begun to ease as the trough weakens and gets pushed north by a high that's ridging in. Through the skies will be clearing, temperatures will still be held down due to cooler southeasterly winds.

- Weatherzone
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A MAJOR, 6.8-magnitude earthquake has struck near the Solomon Islands, the US Geological Survey says, but there is no immediate tsunami alert or report of damage.

The quake struck at a depth of 60.2km with an epicentre 97km southwest of Kira Kira on Makira Island, the USGS said today.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center later confirmed that there was no tsunami threat posed by the quake.
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Sea surface temps are only part of the overall equation when dealing with tropical cyclones. While there is mounting evidence to suggest that a very busy hurricane season is coming, it is no guarantee and no one knows where any hurricanes that do form will ultimately end up.
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Im leaving to see you tomorrow.
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its Alex hey I have a brother named Alex anyway I am going to take as nap so see you at around 5-6ish anyway good morning
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Hey guess the first name for a tropical cyclone this year!
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that is really good
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Yes i really enjoyed my stay in grand cayman it was only for a day but it was cool we also went snorkeling.
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Quoting alexhurricane1991:
Yes i did! i actually remember because i actually bought some of those rocks and of course some shirts.

that good I hope you really enjoyed it
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Yes i did! i actually remember because i actually bought some of those rocks and of course some shirts.
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well postcard souvenirs shirts and it the place with some rocks that has somewhat of a hellish look
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Quoting Skyepony:
None of the .colostate.edu sites seem to be working.

Skyepony,
I just went there and it seems OK.
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Probably but we went in to many places that i forgot there names can you tell me what they sell there and i will tell you if i remember.
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Quoting alexhurricane1991:
Man its tough i say 30% to be fair to you. grand cayman is a wonderful place i visited there on a cruise last year beautiful but didnt like people drove on the left side of the rode it scared me!

nice did you go to hell my parents own that place
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Man its tough i say 30% to be fair to you. grand cayman is a wonderful place i visited there on a cruise last year beautiful but didnt like people drove on the left side of the rode it scared me!
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Quoting alexhurricane1991:
Thats true i forgot its sunday morning! should have known.

don't worry about it
but anyway it looks like we might get rain sometime today whhat do you think I live in Grand Cayman incase you didn't know
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Thats true i forgot its sunday morning! should have known.
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Quoting Skyepony:
None of the .colostate.edu sites seem to be working.

well maybe there under construction
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Thats weird skyepony do you think there going through maintenance?
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well there will be in about 4-5 hours from now
most are sleeping andsome is doing other things like partying at clubs or something like that
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254. Skyepony (Mod)
None of the .colostate.edu sites seem to be working.
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No i thought there will be more people on right now thats all.
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That good for a minute I thought You felt all alone prob. ready to talk to your self
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Yeah im fine wunderkidcayman in fact im doing great!
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hey Alex are you ok
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Hello?
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Yelp I'm still here too,
Although I'm just checking in to check radars
and see what or when the rain will be coming....

Taco :0)
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Hey flweatherfreak91 how are you doing im telling you this website is so awesome the people are so knowledgable and very freindly.
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Chicklit:
Umhum.
T'anks god the pilots I have ridden with so far did not make the choice this pilot did. I'll be happy to ride a bus from Moscow (or wait for weather on this coast)
Best ride:
Float plane out of Loughbourough Inlet went north and ground his way up through a pass to Bute (this plane augered in a week or so later)
Worst ride:
London Luten coming in from Istanbul. Rough air and I'm looking at the tarmac - wheels down
Wham! the boys up front put the hammer down and pulled out (Boing 737 so STOAL) Pilot comes on the intercom and says calmly:
"We are going to fly around for a while and when things calm down we will get you to the Gate"
Next time we came in the brakes were on before we touched down.
I like that in an aircrew
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Quoting alexhurricane1991:
Is anyone still on here?
I'm here
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Your right Levi I was looking at Keepers 150 post and it seemed like a large high to me. Also the high over the east coast, it just looked like a bad scenario if it was in August or Sept.. Also someone asked why the temps. dropped in the Caribbean, I thought that posting (150) might be an explanation, my bad.
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Tampa - my prayers are with you and your family...it's not been an easy year for you.
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Is anyone still on here?
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239. xcool
Dr. Rick Knabb
taking his spot on The Weather





replacement
Lyons

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Nothing in the lower levels from 15N.

Atloop
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Quoting Levi32:


It's already going back down. It will take a couple days to reflect in the 30-day moving average.

Yup's looks that way.
Daily's:
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28-Mar-2010 1009.89 1006.40 -2.97 -11.03 -12.13
29-Mar-2010 1011.51 1006.20 5.74 -11.52 -12.23
30-Mar-2010 1012.15 1006.40 7.85 -11.41 -12.17
31-Mar-2010 1011.69 1005.95 7.80 -10.93 -12.23
1-Apr-2010 1011.05 1006.55 15.21 -10.01 -12.19
2-Apr-2010 1012.24 1006.65 23.07 -8.39 -12.03
3-Apr-2010 1013.20 1007.65 22.78 -6.87 -11.83
4-Apr-2010 1013.58 1007.60 25.88 -4.83 -11.70
5-Apr-2010 1013.01 1006.85 27.18 -2.82 -11.52
6-Apr-2010 1013.40 1007.05 28.55 -1.10 -11.17
7-Apr-2010 1013.93 1008.40 22.64 0.17 -10.85
8-Apr-2010 1013.90 1009.80 12.33 1.07 -10.60
9-Apr-2010 1012.91 1009.70 5.91 1.82 -10.28
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Good evening everyone! I hope everyone is doing good and things have been civil here on the blogs.

In looking at recent computer model runs and the current pattern developing across Florida, it seems we're entering a transition into possibly the rainy season as moisture begins to work in from the east across the area and humidity begins to rise. With a disturbance coming across the Gulf of Mexico tonight, there will be scattered showers and storms throughout the day tomorrow over Florida, especially South-Central Florida. After this, a pretty persistent and strong easterly flow develops over Florida bringing in daily shower and even storm chances starting overnight and the morning across eastern portions and spreading inland and in the western portions in the afternoon. This weather pattern typically heralds the imminent arrival of the rainy season to Florida.
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235. xcool
he . fighting He's sleep....
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Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Not for a bit of time though.


It's already going back down. It will take a couple days to reflect in the 30-day moving average.
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Quoting presslord:
Schooner Halie and Mathew Haiti Food Voyage Tracking Map
Link


Cool, thanks for posting Paul.
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Thank god caribboy you guys despretely need all the rain you can get.
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Quoting xcool:
my son be bad tooday
What do you mean?
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Wet days ahead for the NE Caribbean according to the GFS.


Rainfall accumulation 0-180h


Notice the little "red ball" near the Northern Leewards indicating over 400mm of rain (16")! I doubt such amounts will be recored, but the trend is for a much wetter pattern, otherwise welcomed rain...

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229. xcool
my son be bad tooday
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NITEROI, Brazil (AFP) - Rescuers have been racing against time amid fading hopes of finding survivors of a huge mudslide, with over 400 people now feared dead in some of the worst flooding to swamp Brazil in decades.

Rescuers painstakingly pulled bodies from the thick mound of dirt and debris in the Niteroi shantytown of Morro do Bumba late Friday and Saturday, bringing the death toll to 223.

Another 200 people were feared to have been buried alive in the slum, itself precariously perched atop a garbage dump in this city just east of Rio de Janeiro.

Some 60 hours after the heaviest rains in half a century unleashed floods and mudslides, rescue workers still were far from having finished the work of recovering bodies from beneath tonnes of rocks, rubble and earth.

The floods tore through the metropolitan area's precarious hillside slums, or favelas.

Niteroi was hardest hit, with at least 141 dead, according to the civil defense authorities. Across the bay, another 63 were found in Rio de Janeiro.

The heavy rain forced some 5 0,000 people to leave their homes, officials said, either because their homes were damaged or because they were ordered to leave due to fear of fresh landslides.

Geologist Marcelo Motta, who participated in an investigation of the mudslide, told Globo News television that two cracks in the rocky soil made the mound move and pushed down the hill a huge amount of trash saturated with water that had trapped methane gas. MORE....
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