Winter Olympics forecast: near-record warmth

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:28 PM GMT on February 15, 2010

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Under sunny skies and warm southwest winds the temperature in Vancouver, British Columbia climbed to 54°F (12.4°C) yesterday, just missing the record of 12.9°C (55°F) for the date, set in 1991 (records in Vancouver go back to 1937). That was marvelous weather for all the joggers that were out in t-shirts and shorts in Vancouver yesterday, but is lousy weather if you're trying to hold a Winter Olympics. The men's downhill was postponed yesterday and rescheduled for today, because of rain and bad snow. The women's combined, originally scheduled to run Saturday, has been postponed until Thursday. The mountain has been getting snow at the top, a mix of snow and rain along the middle section, and rain at the bottom, making for very difficult skiing conditions. Practice runs have been mostly been canceled. In West Vancouver, where the moguls competition was held yesterday, snow had to be trucked and helicoptered in because there wasn't enough on the ground. The snow-making machines weren't any help, because it was too warm to make snow. Too bad Philadelphia or Washington D.C. didn't make a bid for the Winter Olympics! It's an upside-down winter when Canada has trouble getting snow, and Washington D.C. gets five feet.

As we can see from a plot of the temperature departure from average for the month of January (Figure 1), most of Canada has seen very unusual warmth, with temperatures over 5°C (9°F) covering large swathes of the country.


Figure 1. Departure of January temperature from average for the strong to moderate strength El Niño year of 2010 (left), and a composite of the last five years that had a moderate to strong El Niño (right). Note that typically, an El Niño event brings much warmer than average temperatures to Vancouver, and cooler than average conditions to Florida. This year has seen an extreme amplification of this pattern. The impact of the Arctic Oscillation (AO) is evident over eastern Canada and Greenland, where exceptionally warm temperatures were recorded. Image credit: NOAA/ESRL.

Why all the warmth in Vancouver? El Niño partly to blame
So, what's going on? The average high temperature in Vancouver this time of year is typically 8°C (46°F). Vancouver has seen above-average temperatures every day this month, and tied one daily record so far. This unusual February warmth follows a record warm month of January, which averaged 3°C (5.4°F) above average, beating the previous record set in 2006 by a pretty significant margin, 0.9°C (1.6°F). Nearby Seattle, Washington had its warmest January in 120 years of record keeping, and both Oregon and Washington recorded their 4th warmest January. As we can see from a plot of the temperature departure from average for the month of January (Figure 1), most of Canada saw very unusual warmth, with temperature anomalies over 5°C (9°F) covering large swathes of the country. Record warm January temperatures were observed not only over British Columbia, but also over Manitoba and over much of Quebec, where half of the province's twelve largest cities experienced their warmest or second warmest January on record. Unusual Canadian warmth is to be expected during a moderate to strong El Niño episode, which is what we've had this winter in the Eastern Pacific Ocean. The pattern we've seen during the previous five moderate to strong El Niños dating back to 1987 (Figure 1, right) shows this trend, and also the trend towards colder than average conditions in Florida. However, the pattern for January 2010 shows an extreme amplification of this El Niño pattern. We had record warmth over much of Canada, and Florida got socked with its 10th coldest January on record. The extreme amplification of the January temperature pattern was due in part to the influence of the Arctic Oscillation/North Atlantic Oscillation, a natural wind pattern over the North Atlantic measured by the difference in pressure between Iceland and ocean areas to the south. That difference in pressure was remarkably small in the first half of January, leading to the weakest Arctic Oscillation pattern in 60 years of record keeping. This allowed cold air to spill southwards into Florida, and helped bring very warm temperatures to Greenland and Eastern Canada. El Niño, combined with the Arctic Oscillation, all superimposed upon exceptionally warm global temperatures, is probably the best explanation for the record January warmth in Canada. Globally, January 2010 was the 4th warmest January on record, with global ocean temperatures the 2nd warmest on record, according to NOAA.

The forecast: near-record warmth for Vancouver
The forecast for Vancouver for the remainder of the week calls for temperatures above 10°C (50°F) each day. Today's forecast high of 10°C (50°F) will approach the record high for the date of 12.6°C (55°F). The long range forecast through the remainder of the Winter Olympics promises continued near-record warmth, as the jet stream is projected to stay in its current El Niño-type pattern. In this configuration, a strong ridge of high pressure stays anchored over the Pacific coast, allowing plenty of warm air from the southwest into British Columbia. Unfortunately for the winter games, I expect that Vancouver will end up experiencing its 1st or 2nd warmest February on record.

No major snowstorms in sight
Today's snowstorm for the mid-Atlantic has shifted northwards, meaning the that the maximum 4 - 8 inches of snow from this storm will pass north of snow-weary Philadelphia, Washington D.C., and Baltimore. The computer models are showing that this will be the last significant snow storm to affect the eastern half of the U.S. for at least a week, and residents of the Mid-Atlantic can look forward to a slow but steady melting of their huge piles of snow. This is exactly what is needed to avoid a serious flooding situation--a rapid thaw or large rainstorm would have been a major problem.

Next post
I'll have a new post on Wednesday at the latest. I did an interview with the Washington Post weather blog by the "Capital Weather Gang", for those interested.

Jeff Masters

2010 Winter Olympic Torch Relay (galeao)
The Olympic Torch Relay departing Mackin Park in Coquitlam, BC. Crowds lined the streets and braved the Vancouver rain to cheer on the torchbearers as they continued on to the city of Burnaby. Just one more day before the Olympic Cauldron will be lit in Vancouver on February 12, 2010.
2010 Winter Olympic Torch Relay
Ballet Of Light (galeao)
The 'Ballet Of Light', formally known as artist Rafael Lozano-Hemmer's art project Vectorial Elevation, consists of 20 robotically controlled, 10,000-watt Zenon lights that have been installed at Vanier Park and Sunset Beach in Vancouver. Beginning on February 5, they will be lighting the sky over English Bay every night until dawn, right up to the last day of the 2010 Winter Olympics on February 28. The pattern of the lights changes every 10 seconds in response to geometric designs submitted from the public via the Internet. It is quite a sight but works best with low clouds like this evening. View with the Inukshuk at the southern end of English Bay Beach.
Ballet Of Light

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Evening everyone. I actually visited the National Hurricane Center today. Very, very cool. And actually that system in the central pacific you were talking about. The hurricane specialist giving us the tour showed it to us, and said the CPHC had called and asked their opinion on starting an invest on the system. I'll post some pics here in a few mins.
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90C is on the Navy Backup Page. You will probably get a "Certificate Error" when you use the link. Its OK to proceed, .mil websites don't issue security certificates.
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Quoting Skyepony:
OZ that is the same as my Tycon. Really like, looks way more durable then my old La Crosse. I got mine even cheaper here.


Maybe not as cheap, cause my link doesn't charge shipping.
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Hard to believe, but Central Pacific Hurricane Center has their first invest of the year:

CP 90 2010021618 BEST 0 35N 1662W 25 0 DB


Could it be a mistake? Typo? ???????????

Edit: Thats 3.5N 166.2W coordinates
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Interesting -- I've never seen a single post entirely deleted (#309) without the poster getting banned for at least the day.

Of course, I haven't been around all that long.

Oz, how'd you do that, or get away with that? :)

I despise the nasty AGW/CC debates...and yet...I can't help it, I wonder what I missed...


Wow...how did I do that? I made the pic as a funny...and yep...it's gone. *AND* I'm not banned.

Awesome! First time for everything I guess!
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330. Skyepony (Mod)
OZ that is the same as my Tycon. Really like, looks way more durable then my old La Crosse. I got mine even cheaper here.
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Quoting CycloneOz:


Have you looked at the ProWeatherStation?

http://proweatherstation.com/

Still only $158 - PensacolaDoug likes his alot.


You have mail OZ.
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Interesting -- I've never seen a single post entirely deleted (#309) without the poster getting banned for at least the day.

Of course, I haven't been around all that long.

Oz, how'd you do that, or get away with that? :)

I despise the nasty AGW/CC debates...and yet...I can't help it, I wonder what I missed...
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Quoting CycloneOz:


Have you looked at the ProWeatherStation?

http://proweatherstation.com/

Still only $158 - PensacolaDoug likes his alot.


You can also go to costco or SAMS and they have professional weather stations for $60 and up.
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326. Skyepony (Mod)
jeffs~ there is some pretty cheap stations. If your interested in my old La Crosse base cheap to build off of (rain gauge may still be good too) WUndermail me. Sounded like WeatherPlug would be reasonalble & pay for itself eventually in powerbill savings. I can go on extended vacations & not worry about data getting too full on the base & losing some too.
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Quoting jeffs713:

That is awesome. I plan on setting up a PWS in the back yard if the other half lets me... this would definitely help "sell" the idea, too. (the cost of the PWS doesn't help my cause, though)


Have you looked at the ProWeatherStation?

http://proweatherstation.com/

Still only $158 - PensacolaDoug likes his alot.
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Quoting WaterWitch11:


i just saw the system in pacific looks impressive. it's beautiful here:

W6HN Healdsburg
Last Update on 16 Feb 12:24 PST



68°F
(20°C)
Humidity: 55 %
Wind Speed: calm
Barometer: 30.01 in (N/A mb)
Dewpoint: 51°F (11°C)
Heat Index: 77°F (25°C)
Visibility: Miles


You mean this mean Upper Level Low and trough digging down towards Hawaii??
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Quoting Skyepony:
It's all hooked up..As of now KFLMELBO48 is 24/7 on WeatherUnderground. I'm testing this WeatherPlug a great little computer (under the pony) that hooks to a Personal Weather Station so you can upload your data to WeatherUnderground & other places 24hrs/7days a week using the electricity of a nightlight (5 watts) instead of a computer. It comes with a neat attachment to plug right up against the wall (not shown). Should be available from RainmanWeather in the near future.



As you can see I got windy cool today..

That is awesome. I plan on setting up a PWS in the back yard if the other half lets me... this would definitely help "sell" the idea, too. (the cost of the PWS doesn't help my cause, though)
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2010 Olympics: No Snow Means Challenge for Winter Athletes
The run at Cyprus Mountain looks like it's layered with snow, moguls carved into the base. But looks are deceiving, especially if you're coming down that hill.
Slush, rain and fog combine to make difficult terrain for athletes.

U.S. skier Hannah Kearney made a startling discovery on her high stakes run, the gold medal hanging in the balance.

"I heard a crunch," Kearney said, "and you can feel it grab the bottom of my ski. A simple hole in the bottom of your ski, that can never be good."

The crunch she felt was one of the rocks cutting through the melting snow. The hole punched through just as she was skiing to the starting line. That's how sparse the snow was.

"I didn't look, and I didn't tell anyone," Kearney said, because she knew the final run was coming.

She would ski down the mountain on that damaged ski and win the gold anyway.

While it might look like there's plenty of snow for the Olympians to work with, the reality is far different -- grass and mud everywhere you look. The problem is so bad, organizers have had to truck in the snow. They scoop it up from one mountaintop and replace the lost snowpack with bales of hay.

Making snow isn't even possible, because the Vancouver area had the warmest January on record, and the rain that's fallen 10 of the last 14 days makes the problem even worse. Some are now dubbing it the "Spring Olympics."

The adverse weather conditions in Vancouver are testing many of the athletes.

Snowboarders who began competing today have called the conditions "horrible." Eight-thousand spectators were told they can't watch from the sidelines of the course, for fear they would sink to their knees in mud.

Comedian Stephen Colbert quipped, "On future winter Olympic host city applications, you might want to add the question, 'Does it snow there?'"

For Vancouver during these games, the answer is unfortunately no.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/olympics-2010-snow-vancouver/story?id=9845612
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I just found my old Hurricane Andrew home video and transferred it to DVD. Good shots of Cutler Ridge after the storm, gonna try to upload it tonight
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318. Skyepony (Mod)
It's all hooked up..As of now KFLMELBO48 is 24/7 on WeatherUnderground. I'm testing this WeatherPlug a great little computer (under the pony) that hooks to a Personal Weather Station so you can upload your data to WeatherUnderground & other places 24hrs/7days a week using the electricity of a nightlight (5 watts) instead of a computer. It comes with a neat attachment to plug right up against the wall (not shown). Should be available from RainmanWeather in the near future.



As you can see I got windy cool today..
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Quoting Bordonaro:

I like these animated smiley's!!!


OMG... those are AWESOME. (and perfect for the topic at hand)
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Quoting CycloneOz:
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Quoting Bordonaro:
A quiet weather week this week for the CONUS. However we will probably pay for this next week, as both branches of the Jet Stream will be more active next week.

A snipet of the NWS Dallas-Ft Worth, TX Area Forecast Discussion for 2:24AM CST today:

A SPLIT FLOW PATTERN DEVELOPS IN THE DAYS 5-8 PD WITH DEEP CUT-OFF
UPPER LOW MEANDERING JUST OFF THE WEST COAST. A SHORTWAVE DROPS SEWD
IN POLAR BRANCH THROUGH THE PLAINS WITH A SHALLOW FRONTAL PUSH NEXT
WEEKEND. LOW CHANCES OF RAIN FOR NOW BY SUN/SUN NIGHT WITH
INSTABILITY LOOKING MEAGER AND MAINLY ELEVATED...WITH ANOTHER COLD
FRONT ARRIVING MONDAY.

WITH SUCH DISCREPANCIES WITH COMPLEX PATTERN IN THE FAR EXTENDED...
MANY ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE EXPECTED IN THE COMING DAYS AND WILL FINE
TUNE AS MED RANGE COME IN BETTER AGREEMENT NEXT WEEKEND/BEYOND.



i just saw the system in pacific looks impressive. it's beautiful here:

W6HN Healdsburg
Last Update on 16 Feb 12:24 PST



68°F
(20°C)
Humidity: 55 %
Wind Speed: calm
Barometer: 30.01 in (N/A mb)
Dewpoint: 51°F (11°C)
Heat Index: 77°F (25°C)
Visibility: Miles
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Quoting jeffs713:

Nor do I. Its getting old.

It is well past the time of "beating a dead horse"... more like "beating the area where the dead horse used to be".

I like these animated smiley's!!!

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Quoting Bordonaro:


No, I don't want to hear another GW argument, please!

Nor do I. Its getting old.

It is well past the time of "beating a dead horse"... more like "beating the area where the dead horse used to be".
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Quoting jeffs713:
309.

Oz, is that really necessary right now? We just finished a nice hour or two without a GW/CC post...


No, I don't want to hear another GW argument, please!
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Quoting CycloneOz:


Stirring the pot is FUN!!!
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309.

Oz, is that really necessary right now? We just finished a nice hour or two without a GW/CC post...
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#306. That sounds about right, my friend. WI and MN had a "killer cold snap" back in 1996, with -50 to -60F air temps reported in several locations. Link below discussing -60F in Tower, MN during the 1996 Cold Snap:

Link
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Conditions in "Thawing Arlington, TX" as of 2 PM CST today from my backyard:

Sunny
Temp-50F
R/H-30%
DP-20F
Winds-NW 7 MPH G 14 MPH
Baro Pr-30.26" and rising

Beats the heck out of the 14" of snow we had last Thursday 2/11/10:

Last Friday 2/12/10:
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Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


What's the coldest you've ever seen up there? Our all time record cold is +6


Bear with me:

I remember a storm when I was a teenager that I will never forget. February of 1996 brought an all-time low temperature of -60°F to Minnesota and -55°F to Wisconsin. Sixty miles east of the Wisconsin record location, I remember staring at the huge dial thermometer hanging off the north side of my parent's house and seeing -50°F. A ice storm snapped off the power poles and a blizzard covered everything with six foot drifts before the extreme arctic outbreak. The gas line ruptured, no power for a week, and bitter cold temperatures and wind... I remember my family duct taping blankets over the doors and huddling around the back-up wood stove in the basement. I can't confirm -50°F, and it wasn't a digital thermometer in an optimal location, but it was darn cold.

I'm at work and I'd have to look back in my weather station's files to see what the coldest temperature I've measured is. And now that you've asked, I'm curious myself. Off the top of my head, I know one of the coldest is -29.3°F in December 2004. I'll double check when I get home tonight and can shoot you a WU/mail if you'd like.

As an anecdote, I inherited my grandfather's daily weather journals from 1974 until 1994. They were mainly used to keep an eye on his retirement vegetable garden but he often wrote down tidbits from the news or local weather phenomenon. I'll have to go back and find the page, but I remember a note he jotted down that read something along the lines of 'windchill of -70°F at radio station' [in town]. Of course, we have an improved windchill equation now, but YIKES!!
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A quiet weather week this week for the CONUS. However we will probably pay for this next week, as both branches of the Jet Stream will be more active next week.

A snipet of the NWS Dallas-Ft Worth, TX Area Forecast Discussion for 2:24AM CST today:

A SPLIT FLOW PATTERN DEVELOPS IN THE DAYS 5-8 PD WITH DEEP CUT-OFF
UPPER LOW MEANDERING JUST OFF THE WEST COAST. A SHORTWAVE DROPS SEWD
IN POLAR BRANCH THROUGH THE PLAINS WITH A SHALLOW FRONTAL PUSH NEXT
WEEKEND. LOW CHANCES OF RAIN FOR NOW BY SUN/SUN NIGHT WITH
INSTABILITY LOOKING MEAGER AND MAINLY ELEVATED...WITH ANOTHER COLD
FRONT ARRIVING MONDAY.

WITH SUCH DISCREPANCIES WITH COMPLEX PATTERN IN THE FAR EXTENDED...
MANY ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE EXPECTED IN THE COMING DAYS AND WILL FINE
TUNE AS MED RANGE COME IN BETTER AGREEMENT NEXT WEEKEND/BEYOND.

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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
6.2 scale earthquake shakes eastern Indonesia
The U.S Geological Survey says a strong magnitude 6.2 earthquake has rattled eastern Indonesia. There are no immediate reports of casualties or damage.
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article107318.ece


Appreciate the info, the headline, the source -- and the brevity -- thank you!

Good afternoon, all...and I'm out again for now.
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Quoting TampaTom:
It's deja vu all over again...
-----Yogi Berra


The more things change, the more they remain the same
"plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
- Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr
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Forecast for next 10 days in central NY state. Low 20, High 32, Snow showers. YAWN.
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6.2 scale earthquake shakes eastern Indonesia
The U.S Geological Survey says a strong magnitude 6.2 earthquake has rattled eastern Indonesia. There are no immediate reports of casualties or damage.
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article107318.ece
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Quoting CaneHunter031472:the warming will come back again

NOAA: Warmest January in both satellite records
Warming is +0.18°C (.32°F) decade


http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/16/noaa-warmest-january-on-record-in-both-satellite-records/
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watch the vid stop it at 1:16 not before and not after then tell me what you guys think
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298. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory Number SEVEN
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE GELANE (12-20092010)
22:00 PM Réunion February 16 2010
=================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Gelane (987 hPa) located at 12.9S 60.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The storm is reported moving southeast at 5 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: 3.5/3.5/D1.5/24 HRS

Gale-Force Winds
================
20 NM from the center

Near Gale-Force Winds
=======================
40 NM from the center extending up to 90 NM in the eastern semi-circle

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 13.8S 60.7E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
24 HRS: 14.4S 60.8E - 70 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
48 HRS: 15.4S 61.1E - 80 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
72 HRS: 16.9S 61.0E - 70 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)

Additional Information
========================
WINDSAT 37ghz at 1355z shows an almost closed low level eye and the N-16 1417z 85ghz swath that this feature is also consolidated also on upper level. GELANE should keep on tracking slowly southeastward than southward for the next 72 hrs as the near equatorial ridge is progressively balanced by the subtropical ridge located to the south.

Available numerical weather prediction models show a large spread of tracks and variations about chronology. GFDN is now the only recent available numerical weather prediction model that forecast a southeastward track along the whole period. On the other hand, ECMWF, Aladin-Reunion, ARPEGE and now joinged by the American numerical weather prediction NOGAPS. All suggest a southward then southwestward track.

Present forecast remains in the philosophy of previous advisories and is close to the tracks followed by this models. Therefore, there is a lower than usual confidence in the forecast track.

Conditions remain favorable for regular intensification for the next 2-3 days. Beyond, an upper level trough should take place between Madagascar and Réunion and according to the present forecast track should induce increasing northwesterly shear.
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I dont make it rain....I think thats global warming! suey! suey! Now watch me shut this thing... down!
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hi guys what going on today
something has got me thinking badly
watch and learn why
Link
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It's deja vu all over again...
-----Yogi Berra
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Seriously now, Yes we experienced global warming, no we did not cause it, yes most scientist know that, yes politicians bribed most of those scientist, yes politicians and especially Al Gore are cashing in on this antropogenic global warming theory, yes we will end up paying not only more taxes du to this theory, but increase food, fuel, and many other product prices due to Cap and trade and many other regulations. Yes Golbal warming recently experienced was caused by a solar maximum and for the past years we have been experiencing a solar minimum responsible for the coolins and yes, the warming will come back again once the next solar cycle starts and bring us to a new solar maximum maybe in 2011 or 2012. Governments should quiet trying to steal a buck and try to find soulutions to mitigate the advese effects (if any) of SOLAR CAUSED global warming. Mars also experienced warming as well as the rest of the planets in the solar system. How do you explain that to the nation? will you blame my SUV for that? or the rovers? Please get serious.
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http://www.startribune.com/weather/84400142.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBDEaLDyUiacyKUU

Look at this link and please explain to me how this will affect the global warming induced increased lake effect snow. According to alarmists part of the proble this winter is that there are increased temperatures in the Lakes providing more fuel for lake effect snow.

Just my Man Made global warming debunking two cents for today.
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Some casual reading if ya like or a recent presentation :)

Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic
Theory of Global Warming


This page allows you to pick the method of viewing the presentation from the AGU. It is not the same subject as the paper above. It is quite interesting and long....


U34A Consequences of an Unusually Long and Deep Solar Minimum I
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Quoting PcolaDan:


Had to look up where Fountain was, had never heard of it. Nice pictures. Were those up towards Dothan?


yes! the one in the car was right before the state line, the one of me and my friend was at that first rest area after you cross ala line on 231 and the one with accumulation was at entrance to jeffers pet supply parking lot.
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Quoting 47n91w:


BRING ON THE COLD!

We've been having a mild winter, which isn't terrible, but anything to cool off the western Great Lakes would be... great!

The south shore of Lake Superior just received 17.5" of lake-enhanced snow Sunday evening, and I was caught by surprise driving in a whiteout! Besides giving my shovel, snowblower, and backside a rest, it would be nice to limit some evaporation from the lakes and aid in the recent low water-level rebounds.

Last year, I reached -20°F a couple times, which is completely normal up here. This year the coldest has only been -7°.


Must be friggin nice. We haven't seen that kind of snow since christmas.
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Quoting winter123:



Good effort, but like i thought, very boring storm in the states. I wish i had footage of if when it was over central america and just would not weaken


Although when you listen to the storm with Bose headphones, it'll knock you right out asleep! :)

May try it tonight when going to bed! :)
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Quoting weatherbro:


Don't get used to it. The models are forecasting an arctic onslaught next week for the eastern and central conus. Thankfully, it appears to be our last real shot for the Winter!

According to Joe Lumberg, it'll be just shy of(and so far not as long as) the early January outbreak. Though it looks to be the coldest for this month.


Just wondering if you have a link to this? If so can you post it here online?
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Quoting winter123:



Good effort, but like i thought, very boring storm in the states. I wish i had footage of if when it was over central america and just would not weaken


Yeah, we did our best. Snapping trees was all we would get, and we didn't even get that.
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