Snowmageddon storm clobbers the Mid-Atlantic with 2 - 3 feet of snow

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 11:08 PM GMT on February 06, 2010

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It's a very white world in the Mid-Atlantic today, where the historic blizzard of 2010 has buried residents under a record-breaking two to three feet of snow. The storm, which President Obama referred to as "Snowmageddon" in a speech before the Democratic National Committee winter meeting, set the all-time record for heaviest snowfall in Delaware history, thanks to the 26.5" that fell in Wilmington (old state record: 25" in the President's Day storm of 2003). "Snowmageddon" dumped the second heaviest at Philadelphia 28.5"), second heaviest at Atlantic City (18.2"), third heaviest at Baltimore (24.8"), and the 4th heaviest at Washington D.C. (17.8"). Several locations in Maryland have seen over three feet of snow, with the northern Washington D.C. suburb of Colesville receiving 40", and the southern Baltimore suburb of Elkridge receiving 38.3". While the blizzard was not an exceptionally strong storm--the central pressure was a rather unimpressive 986 mb at the height of the blizzard, at 9am EST Saturday--it was an exceptionally wet storm. The melted equivalent precipitation for the blizzard exceeded three inches along its core snow belt. That's an phenomenal amount of moisture for a winter storm. The blizzard formed a very unstable region aloft where thunderstorms were able to build, and there were many reports of thundersnow during the height of the storm. These embedded thunderstorms were able to generate very heavy snow bursts of 2 - 3 inches per hour.

A new storm expected to affect the area Tuesday may add to the immense pile of snow on the ground, though the precipitation may partially fall as rain. With only a slow warm up in store for the mid-Atlantic over the next ten days, the snow will stick around for a while. This is a good thing, since a sudden thaw or heavy rain event could generate considerable flooding, if the three inches of precipitation locked in the snow is suddenly released.

Today's blizzard is the second major snowstorm of 16+ inches to affect the Washington D.C./Baltimore region this winter--the other being the 16.4" storm of December 19 - 20. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the expected return period in the Washington D.C./Baltimore region for snowstorms with more than 16 inches of snow is about once every 25 years. Thus, a one-two punch of two major Mid-Atlantic Nor'easters with 16+ inches of snow in one winter is something that should happen only once every 625 years. Such an event has not happened since the beginning of the historical record in 1870. The numbers are even more impressive for Philadelphia, which has had two snowstorms exceeding 23" this winter. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the return period for a 22+ inch snow storm is once every 100 years--and we've had two 100-year snow storms in Philadelphia this winter. That should happen only once every 10,000 years, in today's climate. Of course, the last ice age was just ending around 12,000 years ago, so this probability number has to be viewed with a some skepticism. Still, the two huge snowstorms this winter in the Mid-Atlantic are definitely a very rare event one should see only once every few hundred years.


Figure 1. "Snowmageddon", the Nor'easter of February 5 - 6, just off the Mid-Atlantic coast, at 12:01 pm EST Saturday 2/6/10. Image credit: NASA GOES project.

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Baltimore:

1. 28.2", Feb 15-18, 2003
2. 26.5", Jan 27-29, 1922
3. 24.8", Feb 5-6, 2010
4. 22.8", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 22.5", Jan 7-8, 1996
6. 22.0", Mar 29-30, 1942
7. 21.4", Feb 11-14, 1899
8. 21.0", Dec 19-20, 2009
9. 20.0", Feb 18-19, 1979
10. 16.0", Mar 15-18, 1892

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Washington, D.C.:

1. 28.0", Jan 27-28, 1922
2. 20.5", Feb 11-13, 1899
3. 18.7", Feb 18-19, 1979
4. 17.8" Feb 5-6, 2010
5. 17.1", Jan 6-8, 1996
6. 16.7", Feb 15-18, 2003
7. 16.6", Feb 11-12, 1983
8. 16.4", Dec 19-20, 2009 (Snowpocalypse)
9. 14.4", Feb 15-16, 1958
10. 14.4", Feb 7, 1936

Top 9 snowstorms for Philadelphia:

1. 30.7", Jan 7-8, 1996
2. 28.5", Feb 5-6, 2010
3. 23.2", Dec 19-20, 2009
4. 21.3", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 21.0", Dec 25-26, 1909
6. 19.4", Apr 3-4, 1915
7. 18.9", Feb 12-14, 1899
8. 16.7", Jan 22-24, 1935
9. 15.1", Feb 28-Mar 1, 1941

I'll have a new blog on Monday, when I'll discuss if record snow storms are inconsistent with a world experiencing warming. Have a great Super Bowl weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

cleaning up the cars (chills)
cleaning up the cars
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Blizzard  2010
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From the looks of the cars we may never dig out.
winter scenic
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Hubby tried to use the snow-blower to clear the snow, unfortunately for him the snow is too deep for the snow-blower. The shovel and his arms will have to do the job.
Hubby Tries to Clear the Snow.

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379. AstroHurricane001
4:02 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting atmoaggie:

6 Z GFS, close but no cigar:



Don't you know that smoking is bad for you?

Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Water is toxic as well if you drink enough.
So is it a "pollutant" also?


Nope...Link
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378. AwakeInMaryland
4:01 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
The area called Silver Spring in Maryland is humongous, and nebulous...contains many zip codes.
On a map of Montgomery County, MD, you'll see it goes all the way from Olney to Takoma Park (next to DC), and from Kensington to College Park in Prince George's County (approx.)

We always have to qualify by neighborhood.

This is a little closer to me than the Colesville area...though Colesville ROAD is only a mile away.

COLLEGE PARK 1 NNE 25.0

But yeah, ditto, WOW! When we dare to drive around, I may have to go look at that 40"!!
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377. bassis
4:01 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Thanks Astro, That guys gots some great terms to describe weather
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376. PensacolaDoug
4:00 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Water is toxic as well if you drink enough.
So is it a "pollutant" also?
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375. AstroHurricane001
4:00 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting WindandFire:
I actually believe that the earth goes through "natural" changes and feel the ice age should be evidence of that. Geologists are constantly coming up with evidence of the climate changes earth has experienced. Though I don't believe we humans are helping much, I don't believe in Al Gore's theory either. This winter was the coldest I remember here in Walnut Creek, CA., we even had snow twice and that has never happened in the 30 years total I've lived here. How can that be "global warming"?


The Earth does go through natural cycles, but humans are nudging it toward the warm side. At first, the precipitation patterns shift, and then the temperature-related effects really take hold. The rains and snows in California are a result of an enhanced El Nino, where the jet stream pattern sends storms directly into California instead of toward British Columbia and Washington.

Quoting Ossqss:
Here it comes again, LoL, perhaps the kids may get a snow day this week instead of the weekend :)



And still no major snowfall for S. Ontario. ARGH!

Quoting atmoaggie:
362: So you think we will get to at least 1%, and possibly 8%, CO2 in our atmosphere? LOL.


You want my opinion? I'd say we'll never get as high as 1% from global warming. But I posted the original link to prove that CO2 in high concentrations can be hazardous and whether or not it's a pollutant is irrelavent.
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374. drg0dOwnCountry
3:59 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting atmoaggie:
362: So you think we will get to at least 1%, and possibly 8%, CO2 in our atmosphere? LOL.
Seastep wrote that Co is not a polutant. He is wrong as you can read.

And you might want to read some PETM scenarios/mass extinction.
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373. Bordonaro
3:58 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Finally a quiet weather day in the CONUS, that is until the next storm system in the 4 Corners region winds up for Mo and Tu!

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372. PensacolaDoug
3:58 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting atmoaggie:

Good Morn! (Am I allowed to join this camp?)



Absolutely!
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371. AstroHurricane001
3:55 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
362: Remember Lake Nyos? Link

363: Enough anti-retardism. This will be offensive to some people.
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370. atmoaggie
3:54 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting IKE:


That's what I was thinking too. It's almost now or wait-til-next-year.

I wouldn't bet on seeing any. It's possible though.

6 Z GFS, close but no cigar:

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369. drg0dOwnCountry
3:53 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting WindandFire:
I actually believe that the earth goes through "natural" changes ...
This winter was the coldest I remember here in Walnut Creek, CA., we even had snow twice and that has never happened in the 30 years total I've lived here. How can that be "global warming"?
There are natural cycles and co-2 is contributing to it. Ever heard of teh greenhouse effect? For your other concern.

Hottest January in UAH satellite record
Human-caused global warming easily overwhelms much-hyped "cold snap"


http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/05/hottest-january-in-uah-satellite-record-roy-spencer-global-wa rming/
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368. Bordonaro
3:52 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
One thing in weather that is sure to happen, Global Warming or not, is climate variability.

That is a part of everyday weather on Planet Earth, in our atmosphere. As good stewards of our home we should treat her with respect, moderate our usage of our natural resources, and stop polluting with reckless abandon.
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367. atmoaggie
3:51 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
362: So you think we will get to at least 1%, and possibly 8%, CO2 in our atmosphere? LOL.
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366. AstroHurricane001
3:51 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting Bordonaro:
Link to the final totals from the Feb 5-6, 2010 Snow Event in the Mid-Atlantic region /Midwest and NorthEast, from the NCEP Hydrometeorological Center:

Link


...MARYLAND...
COLESVILLE 40.0


Wow Wow Wow!

Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


I understand...many, perhaps most, great thinkers and scientists are in that club. Something to do with a flat-earth(?)

We need all kinds...just perhaps a little more linking a little less posting...and re-posting, ad infinutum, of the same arguments over and over and over and uh oh, see, now I'm guilty.

New info and links to full articles and videos are always appreciated, I think(?) At least I appreciate them...


Too much skepticism and statusquoism in science may prevent it from progressing. Making predictions based on the data is part of science and always contains uncertainty. I do not doubt that when global average temperatures rise +2C some people will still be saying "it's all part of a natural cycle".
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365. Ossqss
3:50 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Here it comes again, LoL, perhaps the kids may get a snow day this week instead of the weekend :)

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364. WindandFire
3:49 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
I actually believe that the earth goes through "natural" changes and feel the ice age should be evidence of that. Geologists are constantly coming up with evidence of the climate changes earth has experienced. Though I don't believe we humans are helping much, I don't believe in Al Gore's theory either. This winter was the coldest I remember here in Walnut Creek, CA., we even had snow twice and that has never happened in the 30 years total I've lived here. How can that be "global warming"?
363. AussieStorm
3:46 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
I'll leave with this nice joke. Goodnight, stay safe and stay warm and go the Saint's.

RETARDED GRANDPARENTS
(this was actually reported by a teacher)

After Christmas, a teacher asked her young pupils how they
spent their holiday away from school.

One child wrote the following:

We always used to spend the holidays with Grandma and Grandpa.

They used to live in a big brick house but Grandpa got retarded and they moved to Batemans Bay where everyone lives in nice little houses, and so they don't have to mow the grass anymore!

They ride around on their bicycles and scooters and wear name tags because they don't know who they are anymore.

They go to a building called a wreck center, but they must have got it fixed because it is all okay now. They do exercises there, but they don't do them very well.

There is a swimming pool too, but they all jump up and down in it with hats on.
At their gate, there is a doll house with a little old man sitting in it. He watches all day so nobody can escape. Sometimes they sneak out, and go cruising in their golf carts!
Nobody there cooks, they just eat out.
And, they eat the same thing every night --- early birds.

Some of the people can't get out past the man in the doll house.
The ones who do get out, bring food back to the wrecked center for pot luck.

My Grandma says that Grandpa worked all his life to earn his retardment and says I should work hard so I can be retarded someday too.

When I earn my retardment, I want to be the man in the doll house.
Then I will let people out, so they can visit their grandchildren.
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362. drg0dOwnCountry
3:46 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting Seastep:
344. AstroHurricane001

I also do not believe CO2 to be a very significant factor. You and drg obviously do.

We'll see who is correct, but so far, the evidence shows that the IPCC has overstated its importance.

You don't like facts, do you?

Hypercapnia is generally caused by hypoventilation, lung disease, or diminished consciousness. It may also be caused by exposure to environments containing abnormally high concentrations of carbon dioxide (usually due to volcanic or geothermal causes), or by rebreathing exhaled carbon dioxide.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercapnia
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361. AstroHurricane001
3:46 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting atmoaggie:


Wow. The classic comma shape clearly visible over the Appalachian Mountains.

Quoting AussieStorm:

Can we call it Climate shift???

The David Suzuki Foundation says global warming and climate change are in part responsible for what's happening to a key Olympic venue.


Have you read my list (post #200)? This is what has happened so far but soon after the shift in the extremes we'll start seeing the averages pick up and accelerate carrying the extremes with it.
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360. AwakeInMaryland
3:45 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


It took Alfred Wagener's theory of continental drift 70 years to "upset the status quo".

ENOUGH.


I understand...many, perhaps most, great thinkers and scientists are in that club. Something to do with a flat-earth(?)

We need all kinds...just perhaps a little more linking a little less posting...and re-posting, ad infinutum, of the same arguments over and over and over and uh oh, see, now I'm guilty.

New info and links to full articles and videos are always appreciated, I think(?) At least I appreciate them...
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359. Bordonaro
3:45 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Link to the final totals from the Feb 5-6, 2010 Snow Event in the Mid-Atlantic region /Midwest and NorthEast, from the NCEP Hydrometeorological Center:

Link
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358. drg0dOwnCountry
3:43 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


Here we go again...

Whether or not CO2 is a pollutant has no argumental value in terms of global warming prediction.

Link
Some people who are in doubt about climate change, question every tiny bit of the science behind it. And once someone obviously post something wrong - nobody of those so over concerened people seems to take notice. Talking about reasonable people. What a hypocrisy.
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357. AstroHurricane001
3:43 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting Seastep:
344. AstroHurricane001

I also do not believe CO2 to be a very significant factor. You and drg obviously do.

We'll see who is correct, but so far, the evidence shows that the IPCC has overstated its importance. Why I am pretty convinced at this point that the predictions will not validate.

Again, 10 more years should make it pretty clear.

Gotta run to my weekly in-person appointment with God.


Water vapor is more significant than CO2, but CO2 is the greenhouse gas that we have the most control over. The IPCC might actually be underestimating most of the positive feedback mechanisms such as methane and carbon dioxide release from permafrost and subsea clathrates (both of which first started occuring last decade). Link
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356. AussieStorm
3:41 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


Climate change blamed for Olympic snow shortage - Jan 28, 2010

Can we call it Climate shift???

The David Suzuki Foundation says global warming and climate change are in part responsible for what's happening to a key Olympic venue.
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355. atmoaggie
3:41 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
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354. IKE
3:40 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Hey Ike! If we don't get some flakes out of this next cold set-up, that'll be it for our chances this year. It's gonna be March in three weeks!


That's what I was thinking too. It's almost now or wait-til-next-year.

I wouldn't bet on seeing any. It's possible though.
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353. AussieStorm
3:40 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting Seastep:
Sorry atmo, aussie and all. Your right. Forgot.

what am i right about, I thought i was wrong about AGW/CC
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352. Seastep
3:38 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
344. AstroHurricane001

I also do not believe CO2 to be a very significant factor. You and drg obviously do.

We'll see who is correct, but so far, the evidence shows that the IPCC has overstated its importance. Why I am pretty convinced at this point that the predictions will not validate.

Again, 10 more years should make it pretty clear.

Gotta run to my weekly in-person appointment with God.
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351. AstroHurricane001
3:38 PM GMT on February 07, 2010
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Hi, Aussie, are you still up?

re your question: BTW why do I need to check my sources?

Our favorite "gadfly" meant please list or note your sources. Have to admit I'm a little obsessive about that, too. Intellectual property laws, and all that jazz. Also it clues me into the veracity and -- funding -- behind the sources.

Like this:

"Gadfly" is a term for people who upset the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions, or just being an irritant.

The term "gadfly" (Ancient Greek: μυο̃ψ, myops)[1] was used by Plato in the Apology[2] to describe Socrates' relationship of uncomfortable goad to the Athenian political scene,
...

From Wikipedia, excerpted from definition for "Social Gadfly"

I think everyone here is smart enough not to need the link, too!! (Hey, I just google searched "gadfly"...)


It took Alfred Wagener's theory of continental drift 70 years to "upset the status quo".

ENOUGH.
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Good morning to all the reasonable people.


Good Morn! (Am I allowed to join this camp?)
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Quoting AussieStorm:

I hope there is enough snow for the winter Olympics


Climate change blamed for Olympic snow shortage - Jan 28, 2010
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Hi, Aussie, are you still up?

re your question: BTW why do I need to check my sources?

Our favorite "gadfly" meant please list or note your sources. Have to admit I'm a little obsessive about that, too. Intellectual property laws, and all that jazz. Also it clues me into the veracity and -- funding -- behind the sources.

Like this:

"Gadfly" is a term for people who upset the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions, or just being an irritant.

The term "gadfly" (Ancient Greek: %u03BC%u03C5%u03BF%u0303%u03C8, myops)[1] was used by Plato in the Apology[2] to describe Socrates' relationship of uncomfortable goad to the Athenian political scene,
...

From Wikipedia, excerpted from definition for "Social Gadfly"

I think everyone here is smart enough not to need the link, too!! (Hey, I just google searched "gadfly"...)

ok I'll go back and make a correction

And it's done.
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Sorry atmo, aussie and all. You're right. Forgot.
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Not that being a gadfly is necessarily a BAD thing... this is not a case of "J'Accuse"...

(This post is in Self-Defence.)

Canadian spelling: defence -- ask Orca.
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Hey Ike! If we don't get some flakes out of this next cold set-up, that'll be it for our chances this year. It's gonna be March in three weeks!
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Quoting Seastep:


I disagree that the sky is falling.

If there is a market for it, then they should. I do think they should have competition in home energy use. Just like phone service.

Then you can choose your energy company and I'll choose mine.

CO2 is not a pollutant.


Here we go again...

Whether or not CO2 is a pollutant has no argumental value in terms of global warming prediction.

Link
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Hi, Aussie, are you still up?

re your question: BTW why do I need to check my sources?

Our favorite "gadfly" meant please list or note your sources. Have to admit I'm a little obsessive about that, too. Intellectual property laws, and all that jazz. Also it clues me into the veracity and -- funding -- behind the sources.

Like this:

"Gadfly" is a term for people who upset the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions, or just being an irritant.

The term "gadfly" (Ancient Greek: μυο̃ψ, myops)[1] was used by Plato in the Apology[2] to describe Socrates' relationship of uncomfortable goad to the Athenian political scene,
...

From Wikipedia, excerpted from definition for "Social Gadfly"

I think everyone here is smart enough not to need the link, too!! (Hey, I just google searched "gadfly"...)
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Good morning to all the reasonable people.

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Quoting bassis:
Is all that moisture in the North Atlantic going to reap havoc on Canada

I hope there is enough snow for the winter Olympics
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Quoting Seastep:
And, drg0, the danger is always ahead and always will be.

We'll see if the IPCC predictions validate. I don't believe so and, again, it should be very clear in 10 years whether there is even a chance to meet the predictions.
The predictions are validated already. This 2 blizzards are an impressive example of this.
How many natural disaster does it take till you learn to understand that it is wiser to listen to science.
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Quoting Seastep:


A prediction. OK. I say not. We'll see at the end of 2011.

And come on, Astro, you know better than to go by one month. We'll see how the year comes in.

As info Feb AND Apr 1998 were 0.76. The year 1998 came in at 0.52.

The average annual since then has been 0.21.

Get your crow recipe ready. :)


(Looking at post #171 again) OK, so I'll say that 2008 was 0.05, 2009 was 0.29, 2010 will be 0.82, 2011 will be 0.96, and 2012 will be 1.03. This in combination with going from solar minimum to a maximum, although most of the warming from 2008-2010 was due to a La Nina-El Nino shift.

A group of crows is called a murder.
Quoting bassis:
Is all that moisture in the North Atlantic going to reap havoc on Canada


Some parts of Newfoundland have seen over 45 cm (17.7 in) of snow from that North Atlantic weather bomb. Gander, NL has already seen that much snow but is about to get 30 cm (12 in) more before next weekend. Link
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And, drg0, the danger is always ahead and always will be.

We'll see if the IPCC predictions validate. I don't believe so and, again, it should be very clear in 10 years whether there is even a chance to meet the predictions.
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Quoting Seastep:


I disagree that the sky is falling.

If there is a market for it, then they should. I do think they should have competition in home energy use. Just like phone service.

Then you can choose your energy company and I'll choose mine.

CO2 is not a pollutant.


He's hooked another
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Quoting IKE:
How old are you again? Don't answer me, you pretend to ignore me ;)
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Aww, seastep. If you have to talk to it, must you fully quote it?

(just teasing, here)
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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Seastep, even if this or next years turn out to be "Just" moderate warmth, the danger is ahead, we can already see massive methane uptake. With this outlook you do not play games. You need to act. That means changeing to clean energy - which creates jobs too. Every oil/gas company could start with clean technology, they have the money - why don't they do it? They could even lead the clean technologies if they want.


I disagree that the sky is falling.

If there is a market for it, then they should. I do think they should have competition in home energy use. Just like phone service.

Then you can choose your energy company and I'll choose mine.

CO2 is not a pollutant.
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333. IKE
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Is all that moisture in the North Atlantic going to reap havoc on Canada
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Quoting Seastep:


A prediction. OK. I say not. We'll see at the end of 2011.

And come on, Astro, you know better than to go by one month. We'll see how the year comes in.

As info Feb AND Apr 1998 were 0.76. The year 1998 came in at 0.52.

The average annual since then has been 0.21.

Get your crow recipe ready. :)
Seastep, even if this or next years turn out to be "Just" moderate warmth, the danger is ahead, we can already see massive methane uptake. With this outlook you do not play games. You need to act. That means changeing to clean energy - which creates jobs too. Every oil/gas company could start with clean technology, they have the money - why don't they do it? They could even lead the clean technologies if they want.
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The Best!!
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Quoting bassis:
I love this ignore feature. Should have used it last night

It's good ain't it.
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