Snowmageddon storm clobbers the Mid-Atlantic with 2 - 3 feet of snow

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 11:08 PM GMT on February 06, 2010

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It's a very white world in the Mid-Atlantic today, where the historic blizzard of 2010 has buried residents under a record-breaking two to three feet of snow. The storm, which President Obama referred to as "Snowmageddon" in a speech before the Democratic National Committee winter meeting, set the all-time record for heaviest snowfall in Delaware history, thanks to the 26.5" that fell in Wilmington (old state record: 25" in the President's Day storm of 2003). "Snowmageddon" dumped the second heaviest at Philadelphia 28.5"), second heaviest at Atlantic City (18.2"), third heaviest at Baltimore (24.8"), and the 4th heaviest at Washington D.C. (17.8"). Several locations in Maryland have seen over three feet of snow, with the northern Washington D.C. suburb of Colesville receiving 40", and the southern Baltimore suburb of Elkridge receiving 38.3". While the blizzard was not an exceptionally strong storm--the central pressure was a rather unimpressive 986 mb at the height of the blizzard, at 9am EST Saturday--it was an exceptionally wet storm. The melted equivalent precipitation for the blizzard exceeded three inches along its core snow belt. That's an phenomenal amount of moisture for a winter storm. The blizzard formed a very unstable region aloft where thunderstorms were able to build, and there were many reports of thundersnow during the height of the storm. These embedded thunderstorms were able to generate very heavy snow bursts of 2 - 3 inches per hour.

A new storm expected to affect the area Tuesday may add to the immense pile of snow on the ground, though the precipitation may partially fall as rain. With only a slow warm up in store for the mid-Atlantic over the next ten days, the snow will stick around for a while. This is a good thing, since a sudden thaw or heavy rain event could generate considerable flooding, if the three inches of precipitation locked in the snow is suddenly released.

Today's blizzard is the second major snowstorm of 16+ inches to affect the Washington D.C./Baltimore region this winter--the other being the 16.4" storm of December 19 - 20. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the expected return period in the Washington D.C./Baltimore region for snowstorms with more than 16 inches of snow is about once every 25 years. Thus, a one-two punch of two major Mid-Atlantic Nor'easters with 16+ inches of snow in one winter is something that should happen only once every 625 years. Such an event has not happened since the beginning of the historical record in 1870. The numbers are even more impressive for Philadelphia, which has had two snowstorms exceeding 23" this winter. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the return period for a 22+ inch snow storm is once every 100 years--and we've had two 100-year snow storms in Philadelphia this winter. That should happen only once every 10,000 years, in today's climate. Of course, the last ice age was just ending around 12,000 years ago, so this probability number has to be viewed with a some skepticism. Still, the two huge snowstorms this winter in the Mid-Atlantic are definitely a very rare event one should see only once every few hundred years.


Figure 1. "Snowmageddon", the Nor'easter of February 5 - 6, just off the Mid-Atlantic coast, at 12:01 pm EST Saturday 2/6/10. Image credit: NASA GOES project.

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Baltimore:

1. 28.2", Feb 15-18, 2003
2. 26.5", Jan 27-29, 1922
3. 24.8", Feb 5-6, 2010
4. 22.8", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 22.5", Jan 7-8, 1996
6. 22.0", Mar 29-30, 1942
7. 21.4", Feb 11-14, 1899
8. 21.0", Dec 19-20, 2009
9. 20.0", Feb 18-19, 1979
10. 16.0", Mar 15-18, 1892

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Washington, D.C.:

1. 28.0", Jan 27-28, 1922
2. 20.5", Feb 11-13, 1899
3. 18.7", Feb 18-19, 1979
4. 17.8" Feb 5-6, 2010
5. 17.1", Jan 6-8, 1996
6. 16.7", Feb 15-18, 2003
7. 16.6", Feb 11-12, 1983
8. 16.4", Dec 19-20, 2009 (Snowpocalypse)
9. 14.4", Feb 15-16, 1958
10. 14.4", Feb 7, 1936

Top 9 snowstorms for Philadelphia:

1. 30.7", Jan 7-8, 1996
2. 28.5", Feb 5-6, 2010
3. 23.2", Dec 19-20, 2009
4. 21.3", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 21.0", Dec 25-26, 1909
6. 19.4", Apr 3-4, 1915
7. 18.9", Feb 12-14, 1899
8. 16.7", Jan 22-24, 1935
9. 15.1", Feb 28-Mar 1, 1941

I'll have a new blog on Monday, when I'll discuss if record snow storms are inconsistent with a world experiencing warming. Have a great Super Bowl weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

cleaning up the cars (chills)
cleaning up the cars
Blizzard 2010 (TonyInDC)
Blizzard  2010
winter scenic (gingyb)
From the looks of the cars we may never dig out.
winter scenic
Hubby Tries to Clear the Snow. (Proserpina)
Hubby tried to use the snow-blower to clear the snow, unfortunately for him the snow is too deep for the snow-blower. The shovel and his arms will have to do the job.
Hubby Tries to Clear the Snow.

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679. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
A TROPICAL CYCLONE GALE WARNING REMAINS IN FORCE FOR SUWARROW.

A TROPICAL CYCLONE ALERT IS NOW IN FORCE FOR SOUTHERN COOKS.

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Pat (990 hPa) located at 12.5S 161.1W has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southeast at 12 knots. Position FAIR based on GOES infrared/enhanced infrared radar imagery with animation.

Gale Force Winds
===============
120 NM of the center in sectors from northeast through southeast to southwest and within 60 NM elsewhere

Convection remains persistent with tops cooling in the last 3 hours due to diurnal variation. Overall organization is good. Primary band continues to wrap into low level circulation center. Outflow remains good. PAT lies in a difffluent region aloft in a low sheared environment.

Dvorak Analysis based on 0.7 wrap on LOG 10 spiral, yielding DT=3.0, PT=3.0, MET=2.5. FT based on DT.

The system is currently steered southeast by northwest deep layer mean flow into area of decreasing shear and expected to gradually turn southward in the next 24-36 hours.

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 13.9S 159.6W - 40 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 15.2S 158.4W - 45 knots (CAT 1)
48 HRS: 18.3S 158.7W - 55 knots (CAT 2)

The next Tropical Disturbance Advisory on TC PAT will be issued at around 14:30 PM UTC..
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uhhh the news in Houston are begining to talk about this can u post a discussion or give me your input for snow here wed.-fri.
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677. unf97
So much of that GFS model run Ike and Pensacola Doug will depend on just how strong the surface and upper low features will be late this week.

If these features end up being stronger than what is being progged right now, then it will really be an intersting scenario in the Deep South. It does appear that a modified polar air mass will be in place over the SEUS late this week.
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676. IKE
Quoting code1:
Neaux Sneaux here Ike and P'ColaDoug! It's supposed to be warm now. Guess hell really has frozen over. Congrats Who Dat!


Warm?....Wednesday Night
Partly cloudy. Lows 24 to 27.
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674. code1
Neaux Sneaux here Ike and P'ColaDoug! It's supposed to be warm now. Guess hell really has frozen over. Congrats Who Dat!
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673. IKE
I got down to 32.5.
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Morning all,Hey Ike here we go again.look at the low for last night. Lots of frost today
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671. IKE
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
I'd like to get Draks take on it.


He was saying yesterday, based on yesterdays model runs, that it was unlikely to happen here in the NW FL. panhandle.

Looks like the 6Z GFS at 850 mb's has trended slightly further south with the zero degree line compared to yesterday....

6Z GFS at 114 hours....


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670. unf97
I found it very curious that even the Tallahassee WFO mets are discussing the late week event as a possibility in their northwest forecast area zones Ike.

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I'd like to get Draks take on it.
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Omg the abc morning show winter coverage is so cluttered with adverts, i begin to memorize the current temperatures of washington dc. They repeat maybe 1-3 storys, it seems throughout the day ... lolo.
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667. IKE
Quoting unf97:
GOod morning WU!

Congrats to everyone in the Who Dat nation! Ths Saints are world champions. I am happy for the city of New Orleans.

Ike, what are yor thoughts on this late week GOM system? This system will apparently track much farther south The models are trending on a potential snow event along areas just north of I-10 in Southern LA, most of Mississippi, and eastward into areas of AL and possibly a light snow in the western panhandle of FL, your neck of the woods.

It will be interesting if this trend continues with the models as he week progresses.


It could happen here, but I wouldn't bet on it. I picked Indy to win the Super Bowl. Shows what I know.

Congrats to Brees and the Saints. Thumbs down to a piss poor Indy pass defense that played 5-10 yards off of the receiver trying to keep from giving up the long pass.

Keeping my fingers crossed for the white stuff!
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666. unf97
GOod morning WU!

Congrats to everyone in the Who Dat nation! Ths Saints are world champions. I am happy for the city of New Orleans.

Ike, what are yor thoughts on this late week GOM system? This system will apparently track much farther south The models are trending on a potential snow event along areas just north of I-10 in Southern LA, most of Mississippi, and eastward into areas of AL and possibly a light snow in the western panhandle of FL, your neck of the woods.

It will be interesting if this trend continues with the models as he week progresses.
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665. IKE
From the Super Bowl champ, New Orleans, extended discussion.....

"THU AND FRI...THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN IN THE EXTENDED PORTION OF
THE FCST. OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS THE MDL CONSISTENCY HAS BEEN LESS
THAN DESIRABLE BUT BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE COME INTO DECENT
AGREEMENT AND MAKE FOR A COMPLICATED THU NIGHT AND FRI MORNING. AS
ANOTHER...ALTHOUGH STRONGER DISTURBANCE WORKS EAST THROUGH THE
DESERT SW AND INTO TX THU AFTN/EVN CYCLOGENESIS WILL OCCUR IN THE
WRN GULF. AT THE SAME TIME THE COLD AIR ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG SFC
HIGH MAY NOT EVACUATE THE REGION FAST ENOUGH AND IT LOOKS LIKE
PRECIP WILL START TO RETURN. AS THE PRECIP STARTS TO FALL INTO THE
DRIER LL WE WILL COOL THE COLUMN OFF FURTHER DUE TO WETBULBING. WITH
THE POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG DISTURBANCE MOVING ACROSS THE LOWER MS
VALLEY...BEING UNDER THE RRQ OF THE JET...AND A SFC LOW WELL INTO
THE CNTRL GULF WE COULD BE POISED FOR A BOUT OF MODERATE SNOW IN OUR
EXTREME NRN ZONES.
BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF FCST SNDGS SHOW THE COLUMN
COOL ENOUGH TO SUPPORT MODERATE SN AT MCB. LOOKING CLOSER AT THE GFS
BUFR SNDG FOR MCB THERE IS A TIME FRAME FROM ABOUT 6Z FRI MORN TILL
AT LEAST 15Z WHERE WE COULD SEE MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW. THE BUFR
SNDG AT MCB SHOWS QUITE A BIT OF LIFT OCCURRING IN THE DENDRITIC
LAYER FOR OVER 9 HRS. OTHER INDICATIONS ARE SHOWN BY THE GFS OF
STRONG MID LVL(H7) FRONTOGENESIS AND STRONG MID LVL WAA RIGHT AROUND
OUR NRN CWA BORDER AND ALL OF THIS COULD LEAD TO SOME PRETTY GOOD
SNOW FALL AMOUNTS...IF AND THAT IS A BIG IF WE CAN ACTUALLY BE COLD
ENOUGH. RIGHT NOW MCB LOOKS LIKE IT COULD HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD SNOW
BUT IF THE TEMPS ARE ONLY A FEW DEGREES WARMER THEN WE WILL JUST SEE
A COLD RAIN. RIGHT NOW I HAVE ADDED SN WORDING TO THE GRIDS FOR
AREAS NORTH OF I 10 THU NIGHT AND FRI MORNING. LATER FCST SHOULD BE
ABLE TO REFINE THIS FCST AS WE GET CLOSER. SOUTH OF I 10 THINGS LOOK
TO BE JUST TOO WARM AND WE WILL JUST SEE MODERATE BUT A VERY COLD
RAIN."
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One can only hope! Saints won the superbowl.
Hell could freeze over!
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663. IKE
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Morn Ike.


Morning. Will it happen this time? Wintry precip in NW Florida?
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Morn Ike.
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And From MOBILE NWS

LONG TERM...(THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY)COOL AGAIN THURSDAY AS HIGH
CLOUDS MOVE IN FROM THE WEST IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT SYSTEM. MAY BE
SOME LIGHT RAIN BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON BUT MORE LIKELY VIRGA AS THE
LOWER ATMOSPHERE WILL BE VERY DRY AND ANY RAIN WILL HAVE A
DIFFICULT TIME NOT EVAPORATING BEFORE REACHING THE GROUND...AT LEAST
INITIALLY. BY THURSDAY NIGHT BOTH THE GFS AND ECWMF TAKE A SURFACE
LOW FROM THE NORTHWEST GULF TO A FEW HUNDRED MILES SOUTH OF MOBILE
BY FRIDAY MORNING. THIS SETS THE STAGE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A
WINTRY MIX OVER A GOOD PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA THURSDAY NIGHT
INTO FRIDAY. IT WILL BE COLD AND MOIST ENOUGH IN THE DENDRITIC
GROWTH ZONE FOR AT LEAST SOME SNOW OR SLEET MIXED IN WITH THE RAIN
OVER THE NORTHERN SECTIONS THURSDAY EVENING WITH THE MIXTURE
SPREADING SOUTH TO NEAR INTERSTATE 10 OVERNIGHT AND THEN MOVING BACK
TO THE NORTH DURING THE DAY FRIDAY. HIGHS ON FRIDAY MOSTLY IN THE
40S. THIS EVENT IS STILL ABOUT 4 DAYS OUT SO WILL LIKELY BE CHANGES
IN THE FORECAST...BASED ON STRENGTH AND TRACK OF GULF LOW. CURRENT
FORECAST LOW FOR FRIDAY MORNING IS FOR ABOVE FREEZING OVER THE
SOUTHERN 2/3RDS WITH BELOW FREEZING OVER THE NORTH..SO THERE IS THE
POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS OF SLEET OR SNOW TO THE NORTH
THURSDAY NIGHT. COLDEST TEMPERATURES WILL BE FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN IT IS
FORECAST TO BE FREEZING OR BELOW MOST ALL AREAS NORTH OF THE COAST
BUT PRECIPITATION WILL HAVE ENDED. COOL BUT DRY OVER THE WEEKEND.
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660. IKE
From the Birmingham,AL. extended discussion....

"LONG TERM...THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

THE BIG STORY CONTINUES TO BE THE THREAT OF WINTER WEATHER THURSDAY
NIGHT AND FRIDAY.
AN ARCTIC AIR MASS WILL SETTLE OVER ALABAMA
WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY AND SET THE STAGE FOR FIRST INGREDIENT
NEEDED FOR A SNOW EVENT...A READILY AVAILABLE COLD AND DRY AIR MASS.
A SURFACE LOW WILL DEVELOP OVER NORTHWEST GULF LATE THURSDAY AND
MOVE RAPIDLY EASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. MODELS
ARE STILL NOT CLEAR ON THE TRACK AND INTENSITY OF THE SURFACE
LOW...WHICH WILL PLAY A BIG PART IN THE AMOUNT OF MOISTURE THAT
DEVELOPS OVER CENTRAL ALABAMA. A THIS TIME IT APPEARS THAT LIQUID
AMOUNTS WILL BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE... SO ANY ACCUMULATION WILL
LIKELY STAY BELOW WATCH/WARNING CRITERIA. IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE
AIR MASS WILL BE COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW NORTH OF A LINE
FROM ALICEVILLE...TO CALERA..TO ROANOKE. THE GFS MODEL HAS BEEN
VERY INCONSISTENT WITH SOUTHWARD DISPLACEMENT OF THE CRITICAL LOW
LEVEL THICKNESS VALUES. THE LATEST GFS IS SHOWING SIGNIFICANT
EVAPORATE COOLING OVER CENTRAL ALABAMA ON FRIDAY...WITH THICKNESS
VALUES LOW ENOUGH FOR SNOW ACROSS ALL OF CENTRAL ALABAMA.
HOWEVER...THERE MAY NOT BE ENOUGH PRECIPITATION GENERATED FOR THIS
COOLING TO TAKE PLACE...AND WILL CONTINUE WITH A MIXTURE OF RAIN/SNOW
ACROSS SOUTHERN COUNTIES. THE RAIN/SNOW LINE MAY VERY WELL DROP
SOUTHWARD DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY...BUT SYSTEM WILL BE PULLING
OUT FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND LIMIT SNOW ACCUMULATION. SOME LIGHT SNOW
MAY LINGER INTO THE EVENING HOURS ON FRIDAY."


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659. IKE
From the Tallahassee,FL. extended discussion...

"ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE
INTENSIFIES ALONG THE CNTRL GULF COAST REGION FROM LATE THURSDAY
NIGHT INTO FRIDAY NIGHT...WITH WIDESPREAD STRATIFORM PRECIP
SPREADING FROM WEST TO EAST OVER THE CWA. BIG QUESTION WITH THIS
GULF LOW WILL BE THE POTENTIAL FOR FROZEN PRECIP. ATTM...THE BEST
POTENTIAL FOR WINTRY PRECIP WOULD BE OVER THE NWRN CORNER OF THE
CWA. THE 08/00 UTC GFS 850 TEMPS DIP TO -2 DEG C WITH 1000-500 MB
THICKNESSES DOWN TO 5370 M FRIDAY. THE 07/12 UTC EURO IS A TAD
COLDER AND A BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST THAN THE GFS. IF THIS TREND
CONTINUES WITH THE 08/00 UTC EURO...CONFIDENCE IMPROVES TO AT LEAST
INCLUDE A PERIOD OF RAIN/SNOW MIX IN THE WEATHER GRIDS."
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'Niagara' of mud hits homes

An unexpectedly powerful rainstorm unleashed a torrent of mud that inundated more than 40 houses Saturday, leaving La Cańada Flintridge's northernmost neighborhood awash in boulders, dented cars and broken homes.

The force of the mudflow appeared to catch residents and officials off guard, as the forecast initially called for a light to moderate rainstorm. No evacuations had been ordered Thursday or Friday, when the rain began to fall.

But before dawn on Saturday, an intense band of rain cells formed over the mountains burned in the massive Station fire. What was supposed to be a fast-moving storm instead stalled, dumping rain at an alarming rate. The power of the debris flowing off the mountain pushed a 10-ton boulder into a critical catch basin in La Cańada Flintridge.
But the damage was worst at the top of the hill in La Cańada Flintridge's Paradise Valley. The rains made good on worst-case-scenario predictions that geologists and emergency officials have been warning about since the Station fire denuded 250 square miles of the San Gabriel Mountains.

Some residents were awakened by water flooding waist-deep into their homes. Two men rescued a bedridden 86-year-old woman trapped in her room, tethered to an oxygen tank, her bed floating in the rising water.

On Manistee Drive, a white single-story home appeared submerged in several feet of dirt, looking as if a giant child had dropped the house in a sand pit.

"The one time they don't evacuate, this happens," said Justin Jesscoat, an Ocean View Boulevard resident whose parked car was swept down the street.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rain7-2010feb07,0,55011.story?track=rss
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Epic Flooding in Australia Queensland
http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1045012.html
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WA drought is 'proof of climate change'
The author behind a new study linking 30-year drought in Western Australia with heavy snowfall in Antarctica says it is strong evidence man-made greenhouse gases have provoked dramatic climate change.

The Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre in Tasmania said it had found a direct link between snowfall in eastern Antarctica and rainfall in Australia's southwest.

The heavier it snows in Antarctica, the less it rains in southern WA, the centre found.

Principal research scientist Tas van Ommen said the conclusion had been drawn from a study of 750-year-old ice-core samples.

The samples showed that as recently as about 1970, Southern Ocean winds had changed to deposit unusually heavy snow in Antarctica while circulating dry, cold wind - with little rainfall - to the southwest of Australia.

Dr van Ommen said it was the most significant climatic change found in the 750-year-old ice sample, and outside natural variation.

"What we've found is that the last 30 years in our ice core is the largest event in the past 750 years," Dr van Ommen told AAP ahead of the study's release on Monday.

"Large scale atmospheric circulation in recent decades seems to have stepped up in a way that brings extra warm, moist air to Antarctica - with extra snowfall - and at the same time the recirculation of cold, dry air up towards Western Australia.

"This has actually reduced the winter rainfall and made a significant contribution to the drought.

"The drop occurred around 1970 - it's about a 15 per cent drop in (annual) winter rainfall."

Dr van Ommen said that while the ice-core study wasn't conclusive proof of human-induced climate change, there was strong evidence pointing to it.

"There's no doubt in everybody's mind that Western Australia has gone into drought," he said.

"We're seeing a step (step) change in drying from the 1970s onwards.

"The (earth's) atmosphere tends to have a bit of structure in it that has permanent high pressure and low pressure systems based around the Southern Ocean.

"This pattern has strengthened in the past 30 years and some of the computer models that reproduce this are showing that it looks like it has happened because of greenhouse gases - carbon dioxide - and also ozone (being depleted).

"We wouldn't claim on the strength of this that it is proven in black and white, but it's another piece of evidence.

"This is strong evidence that human climate change does make a contribution to the West Australian drought."

Dr van Ommen said that while the earth had experienced dramatic climate changes in its history, studies had shown there had been "much more dramatic changes" in recent years.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/wa-drought-is-proof-of-climate-change-20100208-nl52.h tml
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Well finally the northeast gets involved in some action wed. Looks like it is not going to be a major snow event for us but enough to ride on. We are in a lake snow advisory right now with up to 5" possible today.
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Morning all. Temps here currently running about average for this time of year (63) with a forecast high of 75 (though I think it will get warmer than that). Please keep the Artic deepfreeze up north where it belongs!!! LOL

Have a great day, one and all!
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Power outages, collapsed roofs and in around 30hrs around 8 inch more snow announced for the washington area. http://www.wjla.com/livestream.html

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Such snows would be expected during a transition from a warm cycle to a cool cycle. SSTs would still be relatively high allowing significant evaporation, but with reduced temperatures over land much of the precipitation would fall as snow or freezing rain. It's a larger scale version of the lake effect snows that afflict Buffalo, NY.
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approx 48 min till launch
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The temperature at the space center is good. However there are colder temps very close. I know there is a low temp limit that has to do with the launch. Anybody here know what that ruling is?
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Quoting Seastep:


You are one scary dude. And, we can all adapt on our own.

Replace "adapt" with "do what we say."
There are not much option because people like you confuse over years the public with false information.
You posted several times on this blog here wrong infos, me and others pointed this out. And you was the one who started this discussion with your doubtful infos on IPCC interpretation - go figure page 1.
The only scary thing here is you and other deniers, who confuse the public opinion on climate change and discredit science. You even are ignorant enough to post your own charts - which are just cherry picking.

Further if you look up worst case scenarios, those are even more pessimistic - go figure PETM scenarios.
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This, but no comedy. Rather jack-booted thugs. I seriously cannot believe you posted that. Goodnight and you're gone from my purview.

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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
You have to consider that it is already to late for most of us.
Soon earth can only feed 1 billion - in most positive scenarios. Worst cases?

Forget about the 3rd world, china, australia ...
China will try to move more northern and clash with russia. Nuclear wars could erupt and anarchy on the local level all over the planet.
There will be a few bases and than is the question - will it further accelerate?

I belive that we can still survive - on the most primitive levels you can imagine. Like living in caves again. If you lucky you end up in an arche ...

The best would be to form a global government and force everybody to adapt. We need a overal directive order under which every task needs to be weighten. There are still options on the table. But if it will not start in the coming month in the fullest ... than we can say goodbye civilization.


You are one scary dude. And, we can all adapt on our own.

Replace "adapt" with "do what we say."
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Bedtime, but finished the 1997-2000 animation if anyone would care to view.

Link
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645. flsky
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Hey anyone up? If you are a Floridian, live coverage of tonights launch.

SpaceFlightNow.com STS-130 coverage

Thanks I just emailed this link to my son who is on his way to view the launch this moment. Driving from West Palm Beach. He and his girlfriend also made the trek last night as well, but were both disappointed as you may well imagine. They live in CA and come to visit me in Daytona quite often and have had many have tried a number of times to witness a launch, but something always goes wrong and it's delayed. I think tonight will be their last try. Wish them luck - and thanks again for the link!
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Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
vid act now
You have to consider that it is already to late for most of us.
Soon earth can only feed 1 billion - in most positive scenarios. Worst cases?

Forget about the 3rd world, china, australia ...
China will try to move more northern and clash with russia. Nuclear wars could erupt and anarchy on the local level all over the planet.
There will be a few bases and than is the question - will it further accelerate?

I belive that we can still survive - on the most primitive levels you can imagine. Like living in caves again. If you lucky you end up in an arche ...

The best would be to form a global government and force everybody to adapt. We need a overal directive order under which every task needs to be weighten. There are still options on the table. But if it will not start in the coming month in the fullest ... than we can say goodbye civilization.
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This looks so cool ... like directly ported from a star wars space vehicle ;)


The International Space Station has been moving steadily closer to completion for the past several years. But what house is complete without a utility room, a gym and a picture window?

During the STS-130 mission, space shuttle Endeavour will deliver the Tranquility node and its cupola, a dome-shaped extension from Tranquility made up of seven windows. They will be the last major U.S. modules to be added to the space station, and together they’ll help clear out premium workspace in other areas of the station – as well as offer a window on the world.

At 15 feet wide and 23 feet long, the Tranquility node will provide a centralized home for the station’s environmental control equipment – one of the systems that remove carbon dioxide from the station’s air, one of the station’s bathrooms and the equipment that converts urine into drinkable water, all of which is currently taking up space in the Destiny laboratory. And there’s enough room left over to house the station’s new treadmill and its microgravity equivalent of a weight machine, moving it out of the Unity node where it’s in the way whenever spacewalk preparations are going on inside the adjacent Quest airlock.

But everyone agrees that the real scope for the imagination will be provided by Tranquility’s 6.5-by-5-foot annex: the cupola. Its true purpose will be to provide a true view of robotics operations on the station’s exterior – such as those that will be required when the next module, the Russian Rassvet, is added during STS-132 – and in that it will be invaluable.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts130/room_with_a_view.html


No idea how many ppl watching teh nasa stream, but the spacevidcast seems more relaible.
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I appreciate the concern which is been rose. The things need to be sorted out because it is about the individual but it can be with everyone.
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Quoting CybrTeddy:
HD coverage from SpaceVidCast
Link
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HD coverage from SpaceVidCast
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NASA mission coverage
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html?param=public
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Quoting swampliliy:


Sure enough- have seen one night and even saw two daytime ones- awesome sights!



Agreed!
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Quoting CybrTeddy:


We should have a great view, clear skies and shuttle launches are quite bright for night launches in Tampa.


Sure enough- have seen one night and even saw two daytime ones- awesome sights!
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Quoting swampliliy:


Thanx, CT. I'm gonna try to get up to watch it from here in Tampa Bay.


We should have a great view, clear skies and shuttle launches are quite bright for night launches in Tampa.
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Quoting CybrTeddy:


Correct, but I just wanted to put that link out for anyone who needs it. Should have a good view across Florida.


Thanx, CT. I'm gonna try to get up to watch it from here in Tampa Bay.
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Quoting Greyelf:
but...it's not launching for about another 4 hours, right?


Correct, but I just wanted to put that link out for anyone who needs it. Should have a good view across Florida.
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but...it's not launching for about another 4 hours, right?
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The arctic cold creeping back into europe.
All sidewalks are covered in ice here. In around 80hrs we can expect again snowfall.
I can imagine how it will be in washington soon. Try to free your sidewalks and you do not need salt. And i would recommend if you use salt - use 25% salt and rest sand or tiny stones.... when it starts to melt, things will just get worse - when refreezing occures.



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Hey anyone up? If you are a Floridian, live coverage of tonights launch.

SpaceFlightNow.com STS-130 coverage
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