A new world record wind gust: 253 mph in Australia's Tropical Cyclone Olivia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:34 PM GMT on January 27, 2010

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The 6,288-foot peak of New Hampshire's Mount Washington is a forbidding landscape of wind-swept barren rock, home to some of planet Earth's fiercest winds. As a 5-year old boy, I remember being blown over by a terrific gust of wind on the summit, and rolling out of control towards a dangerous drop-off before a fortuitously-placed rock saved me. Perusing the Guinness Book of World Records as a kid, three iconic world weather records always held a particular mystique and fascination for me: the incredible 136°F (57.8°C) at El Azizia, Libya in 1922, the -128.5°F (-89.2°C) at the "Pole of Cold" in Vostok, Antarctica in 1983, and the amazing 231 mph wind gust (103.3 m/s) recorded in 1934 on the summit of Mount Washington, New Hampshire. Well, the legendary winds of Mount Washington have to take second place now, next to the tropical waters of northwest Australia. The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) has announced that the new world wind speed record at the surface is a 253 mph (113.2 m/s) wind gust measured on Barrow Island, Australia. The gust occurred on April 10, 1996, during passage of the eyewall of Category 4 Tropical Cyclone Olivia.


Figure 1. Instruments coated with rime ice on the summit of Mt. Washington, New Hampshire. Image credit: Mike Theiss.

Tropical Cyclone Olivia
Tropical Cyclone Olivia was a Category 4 storm on the U.S. Saffir-Simpson scale, and generated sustained winds of 145 mph (1-minute average) as it crossed over Barrow Island off the northwest coast of Australia on April 10, 1996. Olivia had a central pressure of 927 mb and an eye 45 miles in diameter at the time, and generated waves 21 meters (69 feet) high offshore. According to Black et al. (1999), the eyewall likely had a tornado-scale mesovortex embedded in it that caused the extreme wind gust of 253 mph. The gust was measured at the standard measuring height of 10 meters above ground, on ground at an elevation of 64 meters (210 feet). A similar mesovortex was encountered by a Hurricane Hunter aircraft in Hurricane Hugo of 1989, and a mesovortex was also believed to be responsible for the 239 mph wind gust measured at 1400 meters by a dropsonde in Hurricane Isabel in 2003. For reference, 200 mph is the threshold for the strongest category of tornado, the EF-5, and any gusts of this strength are capable of causing catastrophic damage.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Olivia a few hours before it crossed Barrow Island, Australia, setting a new world-record wind gust of 253 mph. Image credit: Japan Meteorological Agency.


Figure 3. Wind trace taken at Barrow Island, Australia during Tropical Cyclone Olivia. Image credit: Buchan, S.J., P.G. Black, and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Impact of Tropical Cyclone Olivia on Australia's Northwest Shelf", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Why did it take so long for the new record to be announced?
The instrument used to take the world record wind gust was funded by a private company, Chevron, and Chevron's data was not made available to forecasters at Australia's Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) during the storm. After the storm, the tropical cyclone experts at BOM were made aware of the data, but it was viewed as suspect, since the gusts were so extreme and the data was taken with equipment of unknown accuracy. Hence, the observations were not included in the post-storm report. Steve Buchan from RPS MetOcean believed in the accuracy of the observations, and coauthored a paper on the record gust, presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston (Buchan et al., 1999). The data lay dormant until 2009, when Joe Courtney of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology was made aware of it. Courtney wrote up a report, coauthored with Steve Buchan, and presented this to the WMO extremes committee for ratification. The report has not been made public yet, and is awaiting approval by Chevron. The verified data will be released next month at a World Meteorological Organization meeting in Turkey, when the new world wind record will become official.

New Hampshire residents are not happy
Residents of New Hampshire are understandably not too happy about losing their cherished claim to fame. The current home page of the Mount Washington Observatory reads, "For once, the big news on Mount Washington isn't our extreme weather. Sadly, it's about how our extreme weather--our world record wind speed, to be exact--was outdone by that of a warm, tropical island".

Comparison with other wind records
Top wind in an Atlantic hurricane: 239 mph (107 m/s) at an altitude of 1400 meters, measured by dropsonde in Hurricane Isabel (2003).
Top surface wind in an Atlantic hurricane: 211 mph (94.4 m/s), Hurricane Gustav, Paso Real de San Diego meteorological station in the western Cuban province of Pinar del Rio, Cuba, on the afternoon of August 30, 2008.
Top wind in a tornado: 302 mph (135 m/s), measured via Doppler radar at an altitude of 100 meters (330 feet), in the Bridge Creek, Oklahoma tornado of May 3, 1999.
Top surface wind not associated with a tropical cyclone or tornado: 231 mph (103.3 m/s), April 12, 1934 on the summit of Mount Washington, New Hampshire.
Top wind in a typhoon: 191 mph (85.4 m/s) on Taiwanese Island of Lanyu, Super Typhoon Ryan, Sep 22, 1995; also on island of Miyakojima, Super Typhoon Cora, Sep 5, 1966.
Top surface wind not measured on a mountain or in a tropical cyclone: 207 mph (92.5 m/s) measured in Greenland at Thule Air Force Base on March 6, 1972.
Top wind measured in a U.S. hurricane: 186 mph (83.1 m/s) measured at Blue Hill Observatory, Massachusetts, during the 1938 New England Hurricane.

References
Buchan, S.J., P.G. Black, and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Impact of Tropical Cyclone Olivia on Australia's Northwest Shelf", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Black, P.G., Buchan, S.J., and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Tropical Cyclone Eyewall Mesovortex: A Physical Mechanism Explaining Extreme Peak Gust Occurrence in TC Olivia, 4 April 1996 on Barrow Island, Australia", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Jeff Masters

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782. StormChaser81
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781. Floodman
6:35 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting WaterWitch11:



hi,
just wondering which nbc that portlight will be on? thanks! children will always remember when someone was there for them and the feeling that one gets from that is amazing!


Hiya, kiddo! It will be NBC Nightly news with Brian Williams and likely Wed-Fri next week; they want to track our shipment from Atlanta all the way to a survivors hands
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780. Floodman
6:32 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting indianrivguy:


Nice, I agree.. I dress up as my GG Great Grandfather.. like in my avatar, and go into the schools and do "living history" presentations. It works great because I "storytell" factual local pioneer history in the first person. They learn a TON of history, and I have a blast!.


It's fantastic...I loved it and it's one of things I miss from my daughter being younger
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779. largeeyes
6:32 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
It's your local broadcast NBC...the evening news comes on at 6:30....?? Man how times have changed.
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778. toontown
6:28 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Extreme US winter signals climate change-report
Unpredictable snow could hurt resorts, local economies
* Variable snow-and-melt cycle challenges road maintenance

By Deborah Zabarenko, Environment Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Extreme winter weather in the northern United States shows that climate change can have severe effects, even when it doesn't warm things up, the National Wildlife Federation reported on Thursday.

Climate change is expected to bring shorter, milder winters overall, but some U.S. areas will have more intense snows, with more disruption to such activities as skiing and ice fishing, which depend on predictable conditions, the report said.

"More oddball winter weather is terrible news for skiers," the federation's Chip Knight, a former U.S. Olympic slalom skier, told reporters.

Mountain snow sports that require reliable snow conditions provide about $66 billion to the U.S. economy; without them, local communities are vulnerable, Knight said.

He pointed to extreme efforts under way to get snow to sites at the Vancouver Winter Olympics as "a startling example of what's at stake."

In the northern United States, spring now arrives 10 to 14 days earlier than it did 20 years ago. However, some areas are expected to have more heavy snowfalls as winter storm tracks shift northward. For example, reduced ice cover on the Great Lakes is likely to result in more lake-effect snows.

Strange winter weather is likely to strain local budgets if overall milder winters are interrupted by heavy snowstorms that require snow removal and road maintenance, said Sheldon Drobot of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. Extreme variability from one winter to the next makes planning for maintenance difficult, he said.

The current season has offered sudden temperature swings that, among other things, stranded a flock of brown pelicans that failed to migrate south during a mild period in late fall. They're spending the winter indoors in Maryland after suffering frostbite, said the federation's Amanda Staudt, a climate scientist.

Cutting the greenhouse gas emissions that spur climate change is "an essential first step," Staudt said. However, she added that climate change is already occurring and must be dealt with.

"It's clear that we're already seeing some impacts and we need to start preparing for the new climate realities," she said. "We can't continue to plan based on what the historical trends have been."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2810491220100128?type=marketsNews


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I agree that it is not appropriate for anyone (person or country) to soil their own nest - - with CO2 or anything else for that matter, but this finely crafted piece of "day time soaps reporting" adds nothing to a scientific debate.
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777. code1
6:19 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting WaterWitch11:


last night i ran through my direct tv guide and i'm confused. i don't which nbc it is. any ideas? thanks!


I spoke not long ago with him waterwitch, it's confirmed. Paul himself will post here, and on the blog when it will run. Not sure on direct, but it will be nationally televised.
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776. atmoaggie
6:17 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Dat river is running high for this time of year...wonder if the spring melt will bring it much higher than normal. I really don't want the spillway opened up...

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Rising water in the Mississippi River will take river levels at Baton Rouge above flood stage in the next two weeks, according to forecasts from the National Weather Service River Forecast Center in Slidell.

River levels are expected to reach their peak - or crest - at 37 feet Feb. 12, according to the forecast.

Flood stage - the level at which water would top a river's natural banks without levees — at Baton Rouge is 35 feet. The levees protect the city up to 47 feet.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/83003042.html
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775. WaterWitch11
6:17 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Floodman:


I taught reading at my daughter's elementary school when she was in First grade; they continued to use me until I couldn't take weekdays off anymore...at her graduation, at least 20 kids recognized me. There's someething very satisfying in helping kids...



hi,
just wondering which nbc that portlight will be on? thanks! children will always remember when someone was there for them and the feeling that one gets from that is amazing!
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774. indianrivguy
6:14 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Floodman:


I taught reading at my daughter's elementary school when she was in First grade; they continued to use me until I couldn't take weekdays off anymore...at her graduation, at least 20 kids recognized me. There's someething very satisfying in helping kids...


Nice, I agree.. I dress up as my GG Great Grandfather.. like in my avatar, and go into the schools and do "living history" presentations. It works great because I "storytell" factual local pioneer history in the first person. They learn a TON of history, and I have a blast!.
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773. WaterWitch11
6:12 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Patrap:


Check with Presslord or floodman,,..as I havent a clue either.


i don't want to bug them i know their busy. if i see floodman post on the blog i'll ask. thanks!
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772. Patrap
6:11 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

It is very good to see such pictures.


One can view many more here..defenseLINK
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771. MTWX
6:10 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting CaneWarning:


Say goodbye to electricity.


Just called my brother at Little Rock AFB. He is a de-icer for the c-130's there. They shut down the base due to the focasted ice accumulations.
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770. Patrap
6:10 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Joint Task Force Organizes Haitian Airport

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti, Jan. 28, 2010 – When a disaster strikes, people assume it should be easy to get relief supplies in.


But it’s not always a simple proposition. Can the airport’s runway support the weight of cargo aircraft? What is the security situation like? What equipment does the airport have for unloading and loading? How many people and the means to support and supply them will be needed?

All of these questions and more are in the realm of Joint Task Force Port Opening at Toussaint L’Overture International Airport here. The unit, operating under U.S. Transportation Command, opened the airport after the magnitude 7 earthquake that hit Haiti Jan. 12 and has been responsible for operations on the airport’s ramp since then.

The task force contains the Air Force’s 621st Contingency Response Group, from Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, N.J., and the Army’s 688th Transportation Detachment for rapid port opening from Fort Eustis, Va.

The disaster in Haiti marks the first time “the whole enchilada” has been used in an operation, said Air Force Col. Patrick Hollrah, the task force commander.

“Something of this magnitude takes the whole team to make it happen,” he said during a recent interview. “This is, unfortunately, what we were made to do. It is our job to respond to these.”

The unit was the second one on the ground after the Air Force Special Operations Command team. “[The special operations team] brought a special tactics team with them that was restoring order and starting to control the airflow in,” Hollrah said. “There were literally airplanes parked everywhere.”

The terminal building, while still standing, has cracks all through it and cannot be used.

Aircraft parked where they could and crews improvised the unloading process. That caused confusion beyond belief, the colonel said. Relief supplies got intermixed and trucks drove straight down the ramp to load supplies.

“We started working in tandem [with the Air Force special operations team] to get airplanes unloaded so they could get off the ramp to clear off parking spaces so more airplanes could come in,” Hollrah said.

It was a short time from order to execution, so the team surveyed the area on the flight down to Haiti and had an idea of how they wanted to set up the unit.

“The biggest challenge was the volume of air traffic, volume of vehicles and the volume of people on an airport ramp,” he said. “Anywhere else, a ramp is a restricted area. Not here.”

The unit is trying to get control of the safety and distribution parts of the equation, but it is slow going. “Eventually, we’ll get back to a point that improves safety and allows the traffic to flow where it needs to when it needs to,” Hollrah said. “It will also make the unloading and distribution process faster.”

Aerial port airmen unload the aircraft and move the goods off the ramp. Army vehicles take the goods and move them to a forward distribution node, about a mile away. “This opens up the ramp space and stops having trucks drive right on the ramp to pick up supplies,” said Army Maj. Vicky Snow, the 688th commander.

The soldiers stack the goods and, using rough-terrain forklifts, load trucks from governmental and nongovernmental agencies. By far, the most goods in the supply yard belong to the U.S. Agency for International Development, which is responsible for picking up the relief supplies and distributing them. That process is moving smoothly.

Nongovernmental agencies also pick up their goods at the yard, and this can be more of a problem. In one case, someone donated a plane to airlift supplies to the effort, and several organizations placed goods aboard it without tracking numbers, or even labels.

“Separating these out and ensuring they go to who they belong to can cause problems,” Snow said. “In other cases, they don’t have the right trucks to load with a forklift, so we have to break down the palettes and load [the vehicles] by hand. This takes time.”

These are small units. “We have all our people cross-trained, and everybody pitches in to ensure the mission gets done,” Hollrah said. “We’re a bridging force that can come in quickly to get the process started. Then we turn the responsibility over to government or non-governmental agencies.”

The unit not only handles supplies coming in, but also helps the State Department with refugees getting out.

“We have a high-volume evacuation of American citizens,” said Air Force Maj. Matt Jones, the task force’s operations officer. “We’ve been averaging 1,200 American citizens per day that have been getting on U.S. military and commercial aircraft and getting back home.”

Before the earthquake, the airport saw 30 flights on a busy day, and those were mostly during daylight. At its peak, since the disaster, the airport received 120 flights per day 24 hours a day. The most recent statistics show the airport has handled at least 12 million pounds of relief supplies, and this does not count critical supplies that medical and relief personnel brought with them.

The joint task force will continue until its services are no longer needed, Hollrah said, or until the mission is taken over by other organizations.
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769. drg0dOwnCountry
6:10 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Patrap:


Aid Distribution

A Marine with Battalion Landing Team, 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine regiment hands humanitarian rations at an aid distribution site near a landing zone in Leogane, Haiti, Jan. 26. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Bobbie A. Curtis
Haiti Relief Efforts »

It is very good to see such pictures.
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768. Patrap
6:08 PM GMT on January 29, 2010

Haiti’s Seaport Capacity Increases, Fraser Says

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Jan. 28, 2010 – Conditions in earthquake-ravaged Port-au-Prince, Haiti, continue to improve day by day, but a tremendous need still exists, the commander of U.S. Southern Command said today. Video

Air Force Gen. Douglas Fraser also said U.S. military personnel have opened a seaport that is bringing in about 200 containers a day, and that he expects that capacity to more than double in the weeks ahead.

Southcom is in charge of the U.S. military’s humanitarian response effort in Haiti.

The United States now has more than 20,000 servicemembers in and around Haiti; 6,000 on the ground and the rest on vessels offshore, Fraser said.

“But those numbers only reflect those men and women who are actually in the theater,” Fraser added during a video teleconference from his headquarters in Miami. “There’s a lot of effort that's happening within Transportation Command and across the Department of Defense to support these efforts that are external to the theater.”

Twenty-three ships, more than 60 helicopters and more than 30 fixed-wing aircraft are in the area, the general said. Meanwhile, he said, demand for ramp space at Toussaint L’Overture International Airport at Port-au-Prince, the Haitian capital, has started to recede.

“The demand is now down about 20 percent from what it was,” Fraser said. “So we’re supporting roughly a hundred flights a day into the airport and another 80 to 100 helicopter flights operating in and out of there as we go along.”

The seaport in Port-au-Prince sustained tremendous damage in the original Jan. 12 earthquake, and more in the aftershocks that still continue. “The port is operating and has a roughly 200-container-a-day capacity going through it,” Fraser said.

One pier that the command was going to use sustained more damage and is now unusable, Fraser reported. “So we’re expanding into some of the other ports right there in the Port-au-Prince area to see what we can do there,” he said.

Medical treatment continues to be a U.S. priority. Medical personnel aboard the USNS Comfort, a hospital ship based in Baltimore, have seen more than 3,000 patients since it has arrived. Crews on other ships – the aircraft carrier USS Vinson, and amphibious ships USS Bataan and USS Nassau -- also treat a significant number of patients.

Yet, more hospital space is needed, the general said.

“One of the things we’re working to improve is the capacity for patients to recover,” Fraser said. “We don’t have enough capacity, with the hospitals being full, and so the joint task force is actively working to establish that facility.”

That hospital facility will house between 3,000 and 5,000 patients and will be built on 40 acres of land in Port-au-Prince.

The 82nd Airborne Division’s 2nd Brigade Combat Team and the 22nd and 24th Marine expeditionary units continue operations in their respective areas in Haiti. American forces have distributed almost 2 million bottles of water, and about 1.5 million rations. The command also has distributed 43,000 hand-cranked radios that can charge cell phones and supply a light in addition to letting Haitians tune in their favorite stations for news.

Coordination among U.S. government agencies, the United Nations effort and nongovernmental organizations continues to improve, the general said.

“The World Food Program will start a pretty big distribution effort here, which we will help support, in the next day,” Fraser said.

Opening the seaport will be key to the relief effort. Planes are important in getting aid quickly to an affected area, but ships carry the tonnage that alleviates a disaster. The command is working with U.S. Transportation Command officials to get the seaports up and working again.

“The containers that we are bringing in right now are from an over-the-shore capability, both a military capability as well as a commercially provided capability,” Fraser said. That’s about 200 containers a day now.

“Next week, we will bring in some additional joint logistics over-the-shore capability that will increase that capacity to 500 containers a day,” he said. In the middle of next month, the command will bring in additional military capacity for joint logistics over-the-shore that will increase that to about 800 containers per day.

The command continues to repair the south pier that was damaged in the most recent aftershock. Fraser estimated the repair will take eight to 10 weeks. The joint, over-the-shore capability will bridge the gap until the repairs to the regular piers are completed, he said.
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767. Patrap
6:02 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting WaterWitch11:


last night i ran through my direct tv guide and i'm confused. i don't which one it is. any ideas? thanks!


Check with Presslord or floodman,,..as I havent a clue either.
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766. tornadodude
6:01 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Floodman:


I taught reading at my daughter's elementary school when she was in First grade; they continued to use me until I couldn't take weekdays off anymore...at her graduation, at least 20 kids recognized me. There's someething very satisfying in helping kids...


that's great! I just see myself as a big bro to them, since I have two little bros already ha
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765. WaterWitch11
6:00 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Patrap:
Check out the NBC evening News today at 5:30 pm CDT as Paul Timmons interview with Portlight may run this evening.


last night i ran through my direct tv guide and i'm confused. i don't which nbc it is. any ideas? thanks!
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764. tornadodude
6:00 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Boone North Carolina:

This Afternoon: Snow likely, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 34. Northwest wind around 5 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Tonight: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 23. Light and variable wind. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.

Saturday: Snow. High near 26. East wind between 3 and 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.
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763. Patrap
5:58 PM GMT on January 29, 2010


Aid Distribution

A Marine with Battalion Landing Team, 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine regiment hands humanitarian rations at an aid distribution site near a landing zone in Leogane, Haiti, Jan. 26. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Bobbie A. Curtis
Haiti Relief Efforts »
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762. Floodman
5:58 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting tornadodude:
So I went and volunteered at an elementary school yesterday afternoon, and the lady in charge gave me her business card and told me to email her, and she said that she liked the way I interacted with the kids, and liked that they responded to me ha so I got offered a job, not sure yet


I taught reading at my daughter's elementary school when she was in First grade; they continued to use me until I couldn't take weekdays off anymore...at her graduation, at least 20 kids recognized me. There's someething very satisfying in helping kids...
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761. code1
5:52 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting Patrap:
Dunno code,I was just going with what I know,..since it didnt run last evening,logicially I presumed it may run this evening as its Friday,and thats the last I heard,from Jeffs entry above.


Paul Timmons of Portlight is scheduled to appear on NBC Nightly News Thursday or Friday./em>


Ahhh, I see. It did change then per Paul. Moving and flowing as needed. Will be heartwarming for all to really see their efforts going to those in need this way instead of just an interview IMO. I applaud NBC for following through.
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760. Patrap
5:48 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Dunno code,I was just going with what I know,..since it didnt run last evening,logicially I presumed it may run this evening as its Friday,and thats the last I heard,from Jeffs entry above.


Paul Timmons of Portlight is scheduled to appear on NBC Nightly News Thursday or Friday.
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759. tornadodude
5:46 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
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758. code1
5:39 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Something change in the last 15 minutes Pat? He had just called me and told me otherwise. Now, I am confused.
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756. code1
5:38 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting CaneWarning:


I like the way Portlight is doing this. There are already many stories making their way to papers and tv newscasts about money being sent to Haiti and being squandered.


I agree! Remember the fiasco of FEMA handing out VISA check cards instead of goods to NOLA residents after Katrina? Nothing there to purchase! Large charity organizations are doing a world of good there as well though. Haiti has a history of corruption though. It's what makes it great for the Haitian folks for Portlight, Lambi Fund, and other smaller charities. It's a MUCH needed niche that we fill.
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755. largeeyes
5:37 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Neuse River, New Bern, North Carolina (PWS)
Updated: 5 sec ago
38.0 °F
Clear
Windchill: 29 °F
Humidity: 52%
Dew Point: 22 °F
Wind: 17.0 mphfrom the NNE
Wind Gust: 19.0 mph
Pressure: 30.29 in (Falling)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 4 out of 16
Clouds: Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 30 ft

6 degrees to go.
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754. Patrap
5:35 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Check out the NBC evening News today at 5:30 pm CDT as Paul Timmons interview with Portlight may run this evening.
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753. CaneWarning
5:29 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting code1:
Re-post from the Portlight blog:

Just heard from Paul, and he asked that I convey news of the NBC piece. They taped at the warehouse in Atlanta for an hour and a half yesterday while goods were being loaded. Interview with him went very well.
Will NOT be on TV tonight. NBC is going to follow the story through to the landing, and distributing to the folks of Haiti through the Portlight contacts on the ground there. He was told he would get a day or two's notice as to when it would be broadcast, and that he would come to tell all when that happens.

Remember, no matter how small or how large the donation or any in kind offering, it's all good for those who have lost all. Support the mission of Portlight in any way you can please, you never know when the need will be in your back yard.


I like the way Portlight is doing this. There are already many stories making their way to papers and tv newscasts about money being sent to Haiti and being squandered.
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752. CaneWarning
5:26 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting tornadodude:


you underestimate us Indiana drivers haha but yeah, should be interesting, although I think the interstate will be the best bet by far


Keep in mind though that the roads in the south do not get the same treatment as they do in Indiana. Also, you're putting yourself on the road with other who will try to drive in it and they haven't got a clue what they are doing.
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751. code1
5:25 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Re-post from the Portlight blog:

Just heard from Paul, and he asked that I convey news of the NBC piece. They taped at the warehouse in Atlanta for an hour and a half yesterday while goods were being loaded. Interview with him went very well.
Will NOT be on TV tonight. NBC is going to follow the story through to the landing, and distributing to the folks of Haiti through the Portlight contacts on the ground there. He was told he would get a day or two's notice as to when it would be broadcast, and that he would come to tell all when that happens.

Remember, no matter how small or how large the donation or any in kind offering, it's all good for those who have lost all. Support the mission of Portlight in any way you can please, you never know when the need will be in your back yard.
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750. RMCF
5:24 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting tornadodude:
I wonder if anyone ever references this blog for any works

I chase storms to provide Fuel for Generators and you guys are much better than any other news sourse I have ever used. Usualy i am first on the ground and know what to expect and where the most damage is thanks to you guys.
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749. tornadodude
5:23 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting NRAamy:
tdude! that's awesome!!!!!!

:)


thanks (:

played a game of football with about seven 12 year-olds yesterday, and of course, one was wearing a Yankees hat, and I had my Red Sox hat on :P
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748. TheCaneWhisperer
5:11 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting toontown:


I would respectfully suggest that all scientific and engineering disciplines must have voice in the GW debate. Continuous discussions add clarification for all and moves the science forward. All minds are opened and more a better information becomes available for all. And yes, there will be on going discussions, discussions that will be fruitful for all.

However, some have less to offer than others as noted in this recent story;

" Bin Laden blasts US for climate change, calls for boycott of US goods, dollars

2 hours, 55 minutes ago

By Salah Nasrawi, The Associated Press

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has called for the world to boycott American goods and the U.S. dollar, blaming the United States and other industrialized countries for global warming, according to a new audiotape released Friday.
In the tape, broadcast in part on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden warned of the dangers of climate change and says that the way to stop it is to bring "the wheels of the American economy" to a halt.
He blamed Western industrialized nations for hunger, desertification and floods across the globe, and called for "drastic solutions" to global warming, and "not solutions that partially reduce the effect of climate change."
Bin Laden has mentioned climate change and global warning in past messages, but the latest tape was his first dedicated to the topic. The speech, which included almost no religious rhetoric, could be an attempt by the terror leader to give his message an appeal beyond Islamic militants.
The al-Qaida leader also targeted the U.S. economy in the recording, calling for a boycott of American products and an end to the dollar's domination as a world currency.
"We should stop dealings with the dollar and get rid of it as soon as possible," he said. "I know that this has great consequences and grave ramifications, but it is the only means to liberate humanity from slavery and dependence on America."
He argued that such steps would also hamper Washington's war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The new message, whose authenticity could not immediately be confirmed, comes after a bin Laden tape released last week in which he endorsed a failed attempt to blow up an American airliner on Christmas Day."

Yikes !!




This being the key statement of that article.

He argued that such steps would also hamper Washington's war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq.



He is starting to loose and using cowardly war tactics to shift the pendulum in his direction.

What a coward he is.
747. NRAamy
5:10 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
tdude! that's awesome!!!!!!

:)
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746. XLR8
5:09 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
#738
That's a good one, I like it too.
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745. NRAamy
5:08 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
that guy kills me! He's still an awesome shot!
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744. tornadodude
5:08 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
So I went and volunteered at an elementary school yesterday afternoon, and the lady in charge gave me her business card and told me to email her, and she said that she liked the way I interacted with the kids, and liked that they responded to me ha so I got offered a job, not sure yet
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743. Patrap
5:05 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting NRAamy:
Pat....I watched R. Lee Ermey on "Locked and Loaded" while I was getting ready for work this AM...great way to start the day!

:)





Gunny stays motivated Amy.


...Oooh Rah!
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742. drg0dOwnCountry
4:57 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
China sea levels reach record high
The sea level in China late last year hit a record high for the past three decades, threatening the safety of thousands of people in the coastal areas, the national ocean agency said yesterday.

The average rise in sea level for the past three decades occurred at a rate of 2.6 mm a year, much higher than the average rate of 1.7 mm annually across the world, a report on the sea-level rise in China for 2009 released by the State Oceanic Administration (SOA) showed.

"Last year, the sea level was 8 mm higher than 2008 with the rise in sea level in Hainan Province reaching 113 mm, the highest across the country," Lin Shanqing, director of forecast and disaster relief department of the SOA, said yesterday.

Extreme weather like high temperatures and monsoons play an important role in the rise in sea level, Lin said.

In mid August last year, high temperatures hit most parts of southern China, causing the sea level in September to become about 180 mm higher than the previous year and pushing the oceanic temperature to 28.5 C, the second highest record in the past three decades, the report showed.

Experts estimate that the sea level, along the country's coastal areas, will keep rising and a maximum of 130 mm a year is very possible in the next three decades.

Full
http://www.china.org.cn/environment/2010-01/28/content_19320075.htm
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741. NRAamy
4:57 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Pat....I watched R. Lee Ermey on "Locked and Loaded" while I was getting ready for work this AM...great way to start the day!

:)
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740. Patrap
4:56 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Man someone took a simple Who Dat quote and turned into a Discussion apparently..


I like it.
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739. drg0dOwnCountry
4:56 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Extreme US winter signals climate change-report
Unpredictable snow could hurt resorts, local economies
* Variable snow-and-melt cycle challenges road maintenance

By Deborah Zabarenko, Environment Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Extreme winter weather in the northern United States shows that climate change can have severe effects, even when it doesn't warm things up, the National Wildlife Federation reported on Thursday.

Climate change is expected to bring shorter, milder winters overall, but some U.S. areas will have more intense snows, with more disruption to such activities as skiing and ice fishing, which depend on predictable conditions, the report said.

"More oddball winter weather is terrible news for skiers," the federation's Chip Knight, a former U.S. Olympic slalom skier, told reporters.

Mountain snow sports that require reliable snow conditions provide about $66 billion to the U.S. economy; without them, local communities are vulnerable, Knight said.

He pointed to extreme efforts under way to get snow to sites at the Vancouver Winter Olympics as "a startling example of what's at stake."

In the northern United States, spring now arrives 10 to 14 days earlier than it did 20 years ago. However, some areas are expected to have more heavy snowfalls as winter storm tracks shift northward. For example, reduced ice cover on the Great Lakes is likely to result in more lake-effect snows.

Strange winter weather is likely to strain local budgets if overall milder winters are interrupted by heavy snowstorms that require snow removal and road maintenance, said Sheldon Drobot of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. Extreme variability from one winter to the next makes planning for maintenance difficult, he said.

The current season has offered sudden temperature swings that, among other things, stranded a flock of brown pelicans that failed to migrate south during a mild period in late fall. They're spending the winter indoors in Maryland after suffering frostbite, said the federation's Amanda Staudt, a climate scientist.

Cutting the greenhouse gas emissions that spur climate change is "an essential first step," Staudt said. However, she added that climate change is already occurring and must be dealt with.

"It's clear that we're already seeing some impacts and we need to start preparing for the new climate realities," she said. "We can't continue to plan based on what the historical trends have been."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2810491220100128?type=marketsNews
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738. atmoaggie
4:55 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
NOAA 26 Jan 2010 1430Z


Outlook for the Atlantic, Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico

Hurricane Who Dat is predicted to make landfall on the Florida coast in the vicinity of Miami on 7 Feb 2010 at approximately 2200Z (5:00 PM EST). This extremely powerful hurricane is expected to produce damaging Shockey waves and a Category 5 Brees. Reports from shipping indicate that this unstoppable storm has blown a huge flock of Cardinals all the way to Arizona, and that it has sunk a replica Viking longboat, the Brettigfǻvren. Livestock, in particular young horses or colts, will be in severe danger of being decimated. Predictive damage estimates are unavailable at this time, but they are expected to be significant.

All interests in and near the Miami area are advised to prepare for a storm surge of catastrophic proportions as Hurricane Who Dat begins to arrive in approximately 10 days.

Next advisory 07 Feb 2010 at 0300Z (10:00 PM EST).
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737. Patrap
4:55 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
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736. toontown
4:53 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
BTW, just for the record on the " no more a professional scientist in the field than I am" statement. :)

Dr. Actually he doesn't have any scientific qualifications on climate change. No meteorology qualifications. No climatology qualifications or education. He is a missle designer. That's it.


I would respectfully suggest that all scientific and engineering disciplines must have voice in the GW debate. Continuous discussions add clarification for all and moves the science forward. All minds are opened and more a better information becomes available for all. And yes, there will be on going discussions, discussions that will be fruitful for all.

However, some have less to offer than others as noted in this recent story;

" Bin Laden blasts US for climate change, calls for boycott of US goods, dollars

2 hours, 55 minutes ago

By Salah Nasrawi, The Associated Press

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has called for the world to boycott American goods and the U.S. dollar, blaming the United States and other industrialized countries for global warming, according to a new audiotape released Friday.
In the tape, broadcast in part on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden warned of the dangers of climate change and says that the way to stop it is to bring "the wheels of the American economy" to a halt.
He blamed Western industrialized nations for hunger, desertification and floods across the globe, and called for "drastic solutions" to global warming, and "not solutions that partially reduce the effect of climate change."
Bin Laden has mentioned climate change and global warning in past messages, but the latest tape was his first dedicated to the topic. The speech, which included almost no religious rhetoric, could be an attempt by the terror leader to give his message an appeal beyond Islamic militants.
The al-Qaida leader also targeted the U.S. economy in the recording, calling for a boycott of American products and an end to the dollar's domination as a world currency.
"We should stop dealings with the dollar and get rid of it as soon as possible," he said. "I know that this has great consequences and grave ramifications, but it is the only means to liberate humanity from slavery and dependence on America."
He argued that such steps would also hamper Washington's war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The new message, whose authenticity could not immediately be confirmed, comes after a bin Laden tape released last week in which he endorsed a failed attempt to blow up an American airliner on Christmas Day."

Yikes !!
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735. Patrap
4:51 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
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734. tornadodude
4:48 PM GMT on January 29, 2010
Glad to see that it is used, this blog is a great resource
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