Strongest winter storm in at least 140 years whallops Southwest U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:18 PM GMT on January 22, 2010

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The most powerful low pressure system in 140 years of record keeping swept through the Southwest U.S. yesterday, bringing deadly flooding, tornadoes, hail, hurricane force winds, and blizzard conditions. We expect to get powerful winter storms affecting the Southwest U.S. during strong El NiƱo events, but yesterday's storm was truly epic in its size and intensity. The storm set all-time low pressure records over roughly 10 - 15% of the U.S.--over southern Oregon, and most of California, Nevada, Arizona, and Utah. Old records were broken by a wide margin in many locations, most notably in Los Angeles, where the old record of 29.25" set January 17, 1988, was shattered by .18" (6 mb). Bakersfield broke its record by .30" (10 mb). The record-setting low spawned an extremely intense cold front that rumbled thought the Southwest, and winds ahead of the cold front reached sustained speeds of hurricane force--74 mph--last night at Apache Junction, 40 miles east of Phoenix. Wind gusts as high as 94 mph were recorded in Ajo, Arizona, and a Personal Weather Station in Summerhaven (on top of Mt. Lemmon next to Tucson) recorded sustained winds of 67 mph, gusting to 86 mph, before the power failed. Prescott recorded sustained winds at 52 mph, gusting to 67 as the cold front passed, and high winds plunged visibility to zero in blowing dust on I-10 connecting Phoenix and Tucson. The storm spawned one possible tornado in Arizona, which touched down at 8:32 pm MST in Phoenix near Desert Ridge Mall. No damage or injuries were reported. If verified, it would be only the 7th January tornado in Arizona since record keeping began in 1950.


Figure 1. Radar reflectivity from the Phoenix Doppler radar at the time of the Phoenix tornado. The tornado touched down under the circle with a "+" inside it. The Doppler velocity image did not show any rotation to the clouds in the vicinity.

Some of the all-time low pressure records set in yesterday's storm:
Los Angeles, CA: 29.07", Old Record: 29.25", January 17, 1988
Eureka, CA: 28.90", Old Record: 28.91", February 1891
San Diego, CA: 29.15", Old Record, 29.37", March 3, 1983
Fresno, CA: 28.94", Old Record, 29.10", January 27, 1916
Bakersfield, CA: 28.94", Old Record, 29.24", February 3, 1998

Salt Lake City, UT: 28.94", Old Record, 29.00" April 2002

Reno, NV: 28.94", Old Record, 29.00", January 27, 1916
Las Vegas, NV: 29.03" Old Record: 29.17", December 1949

Phoenix, AZ: 29.22", Old Record: 29.32", May 18, 1902
Flagstaff, AZ: 29.13", Old Record: 29.15", February 7, 1937
Yuma, AZ: 29.15", Old Record: 29.37", September 12, 1927

Three tornadoes in California
Three tornadoes were reported in California yesterday. A small EF0 twister hit the east side of Ventura, leaving a 1.5 mile damage path. Another tornado hit Santa Barbara, downing trees and power poles. The most damaging California tornado yesterday touched down just west of Blythe, on the Arizona-California border, at 4:31 pm MST. The twister crossed I-10, blowing three semi trucks over, ripping the roofs off houses, and downing power lines. I-10 was closed for several hours to clear the debris and toppled trucks.

Two tornadoes also hit Southern California on Tuesday. A sheriff's deputy spotted a possible tornado in Goleta that caused some roof damage, and another tornado hit Huntington Beach, damaging boats and buildings and flipping cars.

If all five tornadoes are confirmed as genuine by the National Weather Service, it will tie the record of most January California tornadoes. The all-time record for most California tornadoes in a single day is seven, set on April 1, 1996, and November 9, 1982.


Figure 2. Radar reflectivity from the Los Angeles Doppler radar at the time of the Santa Barbara tornado.

Figure 3. Storm-relative radial velocity from the Los Angeles Doppler radar at the time of the Santa Barbara tornado. The area of yellow and orange colors, lying right next to a region of blues and greens just west of Santa Barbara shows that the winds in that region were moving towards and away from the radar in a very tight area, signifying the presence of a rotating thunderstorm and possible tornado.

The storm will continue to bring heavy rain and snow to many portions the Southwest today, then wind down on Saturday. A new storm is expected to move ashore over Northern California on Sunday night, but this storm will not be as intense. Another storm is also possible next Friday, January 29, but it appears that a renewed battering by a long succession of storms like we had this week will not occur next week.

Selected storm total snowfalls (in inches) from 7 am Sunday January 17, through 7 am PST Friday January 22:
...ARIZONA...
FLAGSTAFF 3.2 NNW 36.5
SUNRISE MOUNTAIN 29.0
FOREST LAKES 26.0
HEBER 21.0
PINETOP/LAKESIDE 4 ESE 20.4
ALPINE 20.0
CLAY SPRINGS 20.0
CLINTS WELL 19.0
KACHINA VILLAGE 18.6
WILLIAMS 16.5
PRESCOTT 7.0

...CALIFORNIA...
CHAGOOPA PLATEAU 73.6
SODA SPRINGS 63.0
SUGAR BOWL 61.0
LWR RELIEF VALLEY 50.6
KIRKWOOD 48.0
SQUAW VALLEY 47.0
SIERRA AT TAHOE 38.0
BIG BEAR CITY 37.0

...COLORADO...
DURANGO 24.0
PAGOSA SPRINGS 9 NW 24.0
SILVERTON 24.0
WOLF CREEK PASS 1 SSE 24.0
ABAJO 19.0
TELLURIDE 15.0
COAL BANK PASS 14.5
RED MTN 12.3
CREEDE 10 SW 12.0
SOUTH FORK 4 SW 12.0
MOLAS PASS 10.0

...NEW MEXICO...
JEMEZ SPRINGS 14.0
CHAMA 12.0
FARMINGTON 7 NE 10.5
AZTEC 8.0
BLUEWATER LAKE 11 WSW 8.0
BONITO LAKE 5 SW 8.0
FARMINGTON 7 NE 8.0
LUNA 8.0
KIRTLAND 2 ESE 6.0
MOGOLLON 6 ESE 6.0
RAMAH 6.0
BLOOMFIELD 3 SW 5.5
LOS ALAMOS 5.5

...NEVADA...
YUCCA FLAT 20.0
BERRY CREEK 19.0
BIG CREEK SUMMIT 16.0
DRAW CREEK 13.0
POLE CREEK R.S. 13.0
MT. POTOSI 12.0
ELY 8.3
WARD MOUNTAIN 8.0
CHARLESTON 6.0

...UTAH...
BRIGHTON CREST 35.0
ALTA/COLLINS 33.5
DEER VALLEY DALY WEST 28.0
PARK CITY JUPITER PEAK 28.0
BIG COTTONWOOD SPRUCES 19.0
SOLITUDE 17.5
SNOWBIRD 13.5

Selected storm total precipitation (in inches) from 7 am Sunday January 17, through 7 am PST Friday January 22:
...ARIZONA...
DAVIS-MONTHAN AFB/TUCSON 10.23
BLACK CANYON CITY 10 N 6.57
CROWN KING 6.50
SURPRISE 1 ESE 5.58
SUN CITY WEST 2 NNE 4.78
COTTONWOOD 1 WSW 4.63
SCOTTSDALE 5.5 NNW 4.21
NEW RIVER 5 ESE 4.05
WITTMAN 5 SW 4.05
PAYSON 4.01
PINE 1 SW 4.00
SIERRA VISTA 3.83
LUKE AFB/PHOENIX 3.58
CASTLE HOT SPRINGS 3.55
FLAGSTAFF PULLIAM AP 3.41
CLIFTON 2.96
WINSLOW 2.84
GILBERT 4 NW 2.74
CHANDLER 4 WNW 2.72
YUMA MCAF 2.43
PRESCOTT/ERNEST A LOVE FIELD AP 2.28
PHOENIX AIRPORT 2.21
TUCSON AIRPORT 0.52

...CALIFORNIA...
LOS GATOS 4 SW 14.70
CAZADERO 13.46
LYTLE CREEK 13.39
MINING RIDGE 13.14
PETROLIA 7 SE 12.17
BARTLETT SPRINGS 11.23
LAKE ARROWHEAD 11.23
ALTADENA 1 ESE 11.14
CLOVERDALE 1 S 10.30
CRESTLINE 10.27
DEVORE 9.58
DESERT HOT SPRINGS 8.04
UKIAH MUNI ARPT 7.58
NEWHALL 7.08
SANTA ROSA/SONOMA CO ARPT 6.55
SAN LUIS OBISPO ARPT 5.37
SAN DIEGO/MONTGOMERY FIELD 4.32
SAN FRANCISCO INTL ARPT 4.30
LOS ANGELES-USC 3.89
PALM SPRINGS RGNL ARPT 3.75
SACRAMENTO METRO ARPT 3.65
SAN JOSE INTL ARPT 3.19

...NEVADA...
NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 1.50
HENDERSON AIRPORT 1.17
MERCURY/DESERT ROCK ARPT 1.06

...OREGON...
AGNESS 6.4 NE 3.90
PORT ORFORD 5.0 E 3.52
BROOKINGS 4.2 ENE 2.83
BANDON 11.4 S 2.67
ASTORIA 1.45

...WASHINGTON...
HOQUIAM/BOWERMAN AIRPORT 2.01

Tornadoes, severe weather in the South
Severe weather associated with a separate storm brought damaging winds, hail, and tornadoes to portions of Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida last night. Two tornadoes were reported, one in Tennessee, and one in Alabama, near Huntsville. The Huntsville tornado injured approximately six people, and cut power to 10,000 people. The storm responsible for the severe weather has moved out to sea, and no further severe weather is expected today. A slight chance of severe weather is expected Saturday over Arkansas and Mississippi, and there is also a severe weather threat for Georgia and surrounding states on Sunday.


Figure 4. Last night's Huntsville, Alabama tornado was captured by wunderphotographer Southampton.

Portlight's Paul Timmons to appear on NBC and CNN
Portlight.org, the disaster-relief charity that has sprung up from the hard work and dedication of many members of the wunderground.com community, has successfully shipped medical equipment and a water filtration unit capable of supplying the needs of 3,500 people per day to the Dominican Republic. The relief supplies were trucked to Haiti via road, and have made it to the earthquake zone. The supplies have been targeted to go to those with disabilities, or to those who are living in areas where the main aid efforts have been inadequate. Portlight is working through the local Catholic Church, which is probably best positioned to deliver private aid donations to those in need. Paul Timmons, leader of the Portlight relief efforts, is scheduled to appear on NBC news later today, and on CNN news tomorrow, to discuss Portlight's efforts.


Figure 5. Walkers and medical supplies for Haiti getting ready to ship from the Portlight warehouse in Atlanta.

Please visit the Portlight.org blog to learn more. Floodman's blog has the latest info on Portlight's plan for Haitian relief. The Reeve Foundation, founded by Christopher and Dana Reeve has awarded Portlight Strategies a $10,000 Quality of of Life grant to assist in the relief efforts in Haiti. This is very big and will allow Portlight to pursue more aggressive relief efforts over the course of the next few weeks.

For those of you more interested in helping out with the long-term rebuilding of Haiti's shattered infrastructure from the quake, I recommend a contribution to Lambi Fund of Haiti, a charity that is very active in promoting reforestation efforts, use of alternative fuels, and infrastructure improvements at a grass-roots level in Haiti. I've developed a great respect for the work they do in the country in the five years I've been a supporter.

Next post
My next post will be Monday.

Jeff Masters

Road disappears in flood in San Luis Obispo, California (annestahl)
Cops stand by closed road.
Road disappears in flood in San Luis Obispo, California
Southern California Snow (gemd)
A Pacific storm (usually warm) came and dropped snow in Southern California in area which rarely see snow. This was not even an "insider slider" (lingo for a northern, non-Pacific cold jet stream). Snow days for schools are rampant and there are many accidents on the roadways. Our snow is not the typical fluff, but very wet and slick.
Southern California Snow
Prescott 2010 Snowstorm (kempix)
Heavy Snowstorm came in last night with almost a foot of snow in the mountains of Prescott.
Prescott 2010 Snowstorm
Bad Luck (scphotos)
the ocean in Santa Barbara takes no prisoners
Bad Luck
Blue Thunder Bolt (LianesLightroom)
Amazing bolt of lightning strikes the Pacific Ocean in Manhattan Beach, CA.
Blue Thunder Bolt
Shrouded in Clouds (ChandlerMike)
I took a drive this morning to document some of this amazing weather we're having in Arizona. My path took me over to the Superstition Mountains east of Phoenix and I beheld some sights that I don't expect to see again. (HDR)
Shrouded in Clouds

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Quoting CaneWarning:


LOL, are you saying you prefer people email you an example pic?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Quoting Minnemike:

so you understand you're arguing with as much merit as your opposition. i don't think drgo... was doomsaying or reporting anything as fact. so while you have points to make about disseminating science, it's a little ridiculous to come at someone about how they present info whilst operating in the same fashion.

But that is about all he does...and all of the maybes in his posts are tilted the same way. A read of a little children's story about a boy and wolf might be in order.

No one else has noticed this?

Done. L8R.
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Quoting Floodman:
You know, there are a lot of us in here doing work for Portlight and we're all of us getting a little worn around the edges. There are those here who are dealing with incredibly bad weather and they're getting worn out too.

I ask that everyone take these things into account; a little more tolerance, even if you might have a personal issue with someone, would go a long way towards keeping the blog a little easier to read and a better place to be...there is a place here for humor (easy for me to say, being the class clown and all) and a little humor makes life easier for all of us...

Okay, I'm off my soapbox; you may now throw things at me...

i hear that... must.. manage.. opinions....
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Quoting IKE:
6-10 day temperature outlook...




8-14 day temperature outlook...



yay, plenty more cold for me :p
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Quoting Floodman:


I have the best friends in here...


Can I throw my broken guitar? :p
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131. IKE
6-10 day temperature outlook...




8-14 day temperature outlook...

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Quoting atmoaggie:

*painful visuals...very thankful that admin would see fit to ban an example pic and that everyone knows it*


LOL, are you saying you prefer people email you an example pic?
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Quoting Floodman:


I have the best friends in here...

Watch it, though, they use very heavy paper in the original hardcopies...
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Quoting atmoaggie:

I wish I could find some solid study opposing the idea of earthquakes being tied to climate change, but no one has seen fit to bother that I can find.

And the ones that say it is so all do it with language like "could", "may, and "might"...my point? This is as solid as wet sand in an earthquake.

And all of you do know that a lot of junk has been published in the science journals, right? One example: some of that global cooling scare in the 1970s did originate from scientific sources and peer-reviewed articles. Just because a maybe-link has been published does not make it so.

so you understand you're arguing with as much merit as your opposition. i don't think drgo... was doomsaying or reporting anything as fact. so while you have points to make about disseminating science, it's a little ridiculous to come at someone about how they present info whilst operating in the same fashion.
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Quoting jeffs713:

To be out of style, it had to be in style at some point. And I, for one, am VERY thankful it was never in style.


It's "in style" for certain segments of the population I suppose. :)
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Quoting jeffs713:

To be out of style, it had to be in style at some point. And I, for one, am VERY thankful it was never in style.

*painful visuals...very thankful that admin would see fit to ban an example pic and that everyone knows it*
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Quoting atmoaggie:

I am throwing a Journal of Atmospheric Sciences journal at you that contains an article claiming that Atlantic hurricane average peak intensity per storm has gone up in the last 100 years...


I have the best friends in here...
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Quoting Floodman:


Pies and rubber chickens...**sniff!** you guys are the best!

I am throwing a Journal of Atmospheric Sciences journal at you that contains an article claiming that Atlantic hurricane average peak intensity per storm has gone up in the last 100 years...
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Quoting CaneWarning:
What about men wearing thongs? Is that out of style too?

To be out of style, it had to be in style at some point. And I, for one, am VERY thankful it was never in style.
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Quoting Patrap:
Here's a Lil Link to Bring ya up to speed on NOLA and its Geo-Political Importance.

BR>




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Quoting NRAamy:
Okay, I'm off my soapbox; you may now throw things at me...

( purple hippo hurls a rubber chicken at the hippie )
Quoting CaneWarning:


Ok, I'm throwing pies at you now.


Pies and rubber chickens...**sniff!** you guys are the best!
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Quoting Floodman:
You know, there are a lot of us in here doing work for Portlight and we're all of us getting a little worn around the edges. There are those here who are dealing with incredibly bad weather and they're getting worn out too.

I ask that everyone take these things into account; a little more tolerance, even if you might have a personal issue with someone, would go a long way towards keeping the blog a little easier to read and a better place to be...there is a place here for humor (easy for me to say, being the class clown and all) and a little humor makes life easier for all of us...

Okay, I'm off my soapbox; you may now throw things at me...


Ok, I'm throwing pies at you now.
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Okay, I'm off my soapbox; you may now throw things at me...

( purple hippo hurls a rubber chicken at the hippie )
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Quoting Patrap:
If one always has a narrow view looking ahead,figuratively,with ones Political or Personal Bias to one side of any debate.. they will always,

and I mean,"always", find a angle to dispute or de-value the Emprical Evidence presented from those who have no dog in the debate.

Science is empirical and the Data produced from minds much more focused on the science than us here,shouldnt be willy nillied due to the Lack of understanding or skewed thinking,or Political Bias,or personal belief..of the one digesting it.

Shucks,I like this one so much I may post it in the CLIMATE CHANGE entry.

LOL

This is your best post, ever, Pat. So right.
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You know, there are a lot of us in here doing work for Portlight and we're all of us getting a little worn around the edges. There are those here who are dealing with incredibly bad weather and they're getting worn out too.

I ask that everyone take these things into account; a little more tolerance, even if you might have a personal issue with someone, would go a long way towards keeping the blog a little easier to read and a better place to be...there is a place here for humor (easy for me to say, being the class clown and all) and a little humor makes life easier for all of us...

Okay, I'm off my soapbox; you may now throw things at me...
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I have a question for Each of you....What percentage of the Pacific waters must be above 80 degrees in order to declare El Nino?
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Quoting Minnemike:
atmo, all you've done is hurl opinions as a means to counter your perspective that someone is just hurling opinions

I wish I could find some solid study opposing the idea of earthquakes being tied to climate change, but no one has seen fit to bother that I can find.

And the ones that say it is so all do it with language like "could", "may, and "might"...my point? This is as solid as wet sand in an earthquake.

And all of you do know that a lot of junk has been published in the science journals, right? One example: some of that global cooling scare in the 1970s did originate from scientific sources and peer-reviewed articles. Just because a maybe-link has been published does not make it so.
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Taz..I'm not starting crap as you say...if you would take the time to read back, you would see that....

ban me if you want to...at this point, I honestly don't care....I've tried over and over to be friends with you, and you jump on me for no reason on my part....I've kept my side of the bargain with you and not posted Felix on your blog or anywhere else....yet you still persist in dumping on me...

so have at it....ban me...
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Quoting WaterWitch11:
Portlight's Paul Timmons to appear on NBC and CNN

what is this? holy cow, i'm smiling from ear to ear. awesome!

what time today and tomorrow?


Okay, we're not sure when the interviews will air, and that information is direct from press about an hour ago.

As soon as we know when though, you guys will the next to know after us
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still very interesting about a week out.. we will c.. got too look at the other models tho
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maybe sum storms might fire later today into the late night near texas or in texas..
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pretty colorful most of the US!
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Quoting Tazmanian:



dont start crap or your the one that will end up being banned

Taz; it's all just kidding around -- Bordo is having great weather...Amy went through, uh, h*ll last night -- she very nearly had to sleep under her desk at work.

As you know, the "thong" thing is a long-running gag, for charity...passing BAN DEFLECTOR on...Next up??
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LOL Aim, I thought about it :P

and yeah, we could have a fundraiser haha
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Quoting NRAamy:
Awake...the thong is not dead...it's alive and well in Southern Calif...

;)

Bord...you suck...

;)



dont start crap or your the one that will end up being banned
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89. jeffs713 11:05 AM PST on January 22, 2010
Quoting NEwxguy:
Kind of curious what kind of study they did to determine the thong is dead?

I would be happy to conduct a second study to verify their findings.


yeah...good luck with that....

;)
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Quoting ElConando:
Wow at the Jindal piece: Guess when you 30 feet or so below sea level, you gotta think of other things first besides ideology.

T-Dude, isn't this your cue? 50 percent below sea-level running gag or pic?
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Quoting tornadodude:


need help? :P


I think you make Verifier #3.
There's money in this somewhere...oh, for Portlight, Lambi, charity...of course.
[Ban deflector ON.]
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Quoting tornadodude:


by thongs, you mean flip flops, right? :PP


:)
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Quoting CaneWarning:
What about men wearing thongs? Is that out of style too?


by thongs, you mean flip flops, right? :PP
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What about men wearing thongs? Is that out of style too?
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

I nominate you to double-check and verify the validity of those findings.


need help? :P
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atmo, all you've done is hurl opinions as a means to counter your perspective that someone is just hurling opinions
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And to be sure,during Betsy in 1965,a Cat-3..her Storm Surge was so Powerful,it had the Miss River flowing north at her Height..

Truly Amazing stuff as I had a conversation with a retired River Pilot who was there during the Night of Betsy.

And all that data is available to browse if one searches.
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Quoting atmoaggie:

Right. Oh, okay.
What is more here, that this presents just another puzzle in the climate change science. And patrap just posted something regards other science(sea rise). So even if this turns out to be wrong. Than we still have the observations in other fields. The science overall is so far (overwhelming)pronounced that we actualy have more than a theory - instead a consensus is reached.

And the warning is out,that we need todo something about catastrophic climate changes. And yes in regards to this you start to see the horror for our planet which emerges.
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Quoting CaneWarning:
Did anyone see CNN's poll about the ethics of vacationing in Haiti now?

My personal opinion is that we should make Haiti a vacation paradise. This would create jobs for the people there. Also, we should use American companies to rebuild the island. This would create American jobs and bring profits to American companies! This could be a win-win situation for Haiti and the U.S. if we play it correctly.

I can't wait to see Paul's interview on tv later discussing Portlight. Well deserved.

I completley agree! It would help both ends!
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I know this is (somewhat) redundant...but things happen fast here, and that's usually good.

From friend around here in Maryland:

If I have stuff to give, where should it go? I have crutches for sure... I hesitate always to donate in-kind stuff, money being so much easier to transport and transform..."

Whoops, sorry, this entry was meant for Portlight blog...but you'll forgive me, right, and many of you have GREAT ideas; not always on Portlight blog. Thanks for tolerating...me.
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Quoting Patrap:


No Mississippi River Levees,which are Large and Wide..have ever Failed from a Storm Surge.

The Levees that failed here in 05 were all OUTFALL canals,or the Industrial Canal,MRGO ones,not Miss River Levee's,,and as you say,the West Bank and Algiers included were virtually untouched, save for wind damage from Katrina.

Thanx for bring up your obs too..

They are always welcomed here.

Umm, actually, the east bank levees in mid-Plaquemines were washed over in Katrina. Not a huge deal as structures east of the levee were going to flood anyway and the water from the wash-over just went into the river.

BUT, this did cause a number of issues with barges breaking mooring and getting loose down there. Couldn't handle the water velocities.
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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
If you want to refute the article you need to present evidence. And as i just posted, it is a theory - and this is how science is working. It might actualy turn out, that "Schulz" is wrong. But in order to acknowledge this you need observation, meassurments, other techniques, etc. And those need to be published for peer-review. You are way to fast with telling people what is or not. That is not how science work. If we had no science there would be no GOES, GFS and all the observation techniques. There would be not even cars!

Right. Oh, okay.
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Quoting NEwxguy:
Kind of curious what kind of study they did to determine the thong is dead?

I would be happy to conduct a second study to verify their findings.
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Quoting GBguy88:


I spent some time in Algiers Point, and was absolutely shocked when the locals said they avoided any severe flooding. The whole damn point is surrounded by levees, I would have thought for sure they'd be in trouble. Though I guess if the winds were from the north during Katrina, the bulk of the flooding would have occurred on the north side of Nola, courtesy of the lake being forced in.


No Mississippi River Levee's,which are Large and Wide..have ever Failed from a Storm Surge.

The Levees that failed here in 05 were all OUTFALL canals,or the Industrial Canal,MRGO ones,not Miss River Levee's,,and as you say,the West Bank and Algiers included were virtually untouched, save for wind damage from Katrina.

Thanx for bring up your obs too..

They are always welcomed here.

Also I lived a Half Mile South of Lake Pontchartrain before Katrina,and as the Miss River Levees are wide,..those S. Shore East to West Ones are of the Same Design,wide and tall,and none failed..although on the evening of the 29th of August 2005,my Dog and I waded thru some chest high water and made it to the Lake Levee's crown,,and the Lake Level was 3-4ft from the top..

..and well,I took the opportunity to er,relive myself there..as it seemed appropriate at the time.

Nova did as well.
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Quoting Patrap:
You Sounds Like a Politician now Atmo..

Are you running ?

...here's one to consider..

"Most of us scientists are a little uneasy about what seems to be the lack of urgency that is felt about climate change," he said. "It's an issue where Louisiana should be at the forefront nationwide, making the case that this is something we have to deal with."

Emeritus LSU coastal scientist John Day went further, warning that without quick action to both limit emissions and address the already eroding coastline, the effects could be disastrous, considering 60 percent of the state's population and economic investment lies in the coastal zone.

"If they don't do something, you can write off most of New Orleans," Day said. "It's impossible to protect coastal communities without wetlands, and to build levees without wetlands in front of them would be prohibitively expensive."



About that:

1. In a letter filled with citations of peer-reviewed scientific studies, 32 scientists -- including many working on the state's coastal restoration efforts -- told Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal that there's a direct link between the rising sea levels eroding the state's coastline and greenhouse gases produced by the state's industries. Direct? Hardly. Indirect is debatable, even.

2. These emissions are increasing atmospheric and oceanic temperatures, which are leading to concerns about stronger hurricanes, a key vulnerability for Louisiana.
Ummm, maybe. No link yet.

3. Boesch said the Jindal administration's letters, and a failure of state officials to immediately identify what parts of the coastline can be salvaged in the face of sea-level rise
Boy does that need doing. Saving it all is simply impossible even without any sea level changes.

You know what I think about our wetlands, salt water intrusion from oil company canals speeding along erosion, and that we cannot save 4 deltas with one river with half of it's usual sediment load.
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Did anyone see CNN's poll about the ethics of vacationing in Haiti now?

My personal opinion is that we should make Haiti a vacation paradise. This would create jobs for the people there. Also, we should use American companies to rebuild the island. This would create American jobs and bring profits to American companies! This could be a win-win situation for Haiti and the U.S. if we play it correctly.

I can't wait to see Paul's interview on tv later discussing Portlight. Well deserved.
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