Top global weather story of 2009: drought in the Horn of Africa

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:44 PM GMT on January 19, 2010

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I'm in Atlanta at the 90th Annual Meeting of the American Meteorological Society, and the picture I'm getting from the presentations here is that the most significant weather event of 2009 was the failure of the summer rains in the Horn of Africa. Rainfall over most of the Horn of Africa between February and September 2009 was 2 - 12 inches (50 - 300 mm) below average, leading to a continuation of the region's deadly 6-year drought. This drought has very likely contributed significantly to the ongoing civil wars and high levels of violence in some of the affected countries, as the affected population competes for scarce resources. The Horn of Africa has two rainy seasons, a main rainy season in April/May, and then the "short rains" of October/November. The failure of the 2009 main rainy season was the worst such failure of the past six years. The "short rains" of the secondary October/November were mostly near average over the region, fortunately, but millions of people in Kenya, Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda and Tanzania face hunger and poverty due to withered crops, dead livestock, and dried up ponds and streams, according to the aid group Oxfam. Cattle prices have tumbled from $200 to $4 in some areas as families try to sell dying animals to buy food. Over 1.5 million animals have died in Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda, with an estimated net worth to the region of nearly $360 million, Oxfam said. Cattle represent the only wealth for many nomadic families, and the death of these animals can begin a spiral into poverty and dependency that can trap a family for generations. The those areas where the "short rains" failed--like large parts of the Turkana region of northern Kenya, which received just 12mm of rain October through December--almost one person in three is malnourished. This region of Kenya now has the opposite problem to contend with--severe flooding. Massive downpours, probably linked to El Niño conditions, hit the region December 27 - January 5, resulting in heavy flooding that killed at least 34 people and left 10,000 people homeless. The flooding was worsened by the preceding drought, which killed much of the vegetation that ordinarily would have stabilized the soil and absorbed rainwater before it could run off and create destructive floods. Thousands of cattle were killed and large areas of crops were ruined by the flooding.

The current endemic lawlessness in countries such as Somalia and Yemen are very likely due, in large part, to the extreme drought conditions that have gripped the Horn of Africa over the past six years. Thus the continuation of this drought in 2009 likely contributed to hundreds or thousands of deaths. According to the Associated Press, in addition to the war in Somalia, which has killed at least 300,000 people since 1991 and left 1/2 of the nation's 7.2 million people in need of external aid, rebel groups are battling the central government in Ethiopia, which has restricted access to aid agencies. In northern Kenya and parts of Uganda, heavily armed ethnic militias conduct cattle raids and fight over precious grazing ground and water.


Figure 1. Hydrological drought conditions over the Horn of Africa for a 1-year period (left) and 3-year period (right) as computed using the Standardized Precipitation Index (SPI). Exceptional drought on a 1-year and 3-year time scale was affecting approximately 20 million people in the Horn of Africa, according to the Global Drought Monitor.


Figure 2. Rainfall over most of the Horn of Africa between February and September 2009 was 2 - 12 inches (50 - 300 mm) below average, leading to a continuation of the deadly 6-year drought in the region. Image credit: NOAA Climate Prediction Center.

Droughts and civil war in Africa
African countries are highly dependent on rain-fed agriculture for both employment and economic production, with agriculture accounting for more than 50% of gross domestic product and up to 90% of employment across much of the continent (World Development Indicators 2009, World Bank). One third of the population of Africa lives in drought-prone areas (World Water Forum, 2000), and about 25% of the population of Africa currently experiences high water stress. Since increased drought in Africa leads to increased competition for life-giving water, and it is logical to assume that reduced rainfall will result in increases in civil war. Several scientific studies have shown this to be true. For example, Raleigh and Urdal (2007) found that "decreasing levels of freshwater are associated with higher risks on conflict". They found this relationship was compounded by higher population densities and therefore more competition for resources. Applying a similar approach, Levy et al. (2005) found that when rainfall was significantly below normal, the likelihood of conflict outbreak was higher the subsequent year. Hendrix and Glaser (2007) also found that water availability increased the chances of conflict, but that large year-to-year changes in rainfall were more important in triggering war. For example, a dry year immediately following a wet year was more likely to cause conflict than two dry years in a row, since societies have trouble adjusting to large changes in water availability.

However, we should not just be looking at precipitation, but temperature as well, since higher temperatures also contribute to drought. Higher temperatures increase crop evapotranspiration and accelerate crop development. The combined effect of these two mechanisms is predicted to reduce the yield of African staple crops by 10% - 30% per °C of warming (Lobell et al., 2008). A 2009 study by Burke et al. titled, "Warming increases the risk of civil war in Africa", found a correlation between rising temperatures and civil war in Africa. The researchers found that a 1°C warming--the amount of warming that is expected for Africa by 2030 under some of the typical IPCC climate change scenarios--has historically caused a remarkable 49% relative increase in the incidence of civil war. The authors concluded "this historical response to temperature suggests a roughly 54% increase in armed conflict incidence by 2030, or an additional 393,000 battle deaths if future wars are as deadly as recent wars". While a 1°C warming of temperature will have little impact to societies in many parts of the world, this research suggests that Africa will be very sensitive to global warming. More than two-thirds of the countries in sub-Saharan Africa have experienced civil conflict since 1960, resulting in millions of deaths and monumental human suffering. A 3°C warming by 2100 could kill an additional million people in Africa, if the conclusions of this research are correct. It's easy to think of climate change as a long way off, the researchers said in a press release, but their study shows how sensitive many human systems are to small increases in temperature, and how fast the negative impacts of climate change could be felt. "Our findings provide strong impetus to ramp up investments in African adaptation to climate change, for instance by developing crop varieties less sensitive to extreme heat and promoting insurance plans to help protect farmers from adverse effects of the hotter climate," said lead author Marshall Burke of Stanford's Program on Food Security and the Environment. One promising research development is the recent isolation of a "thermometer gene" that helps plants sense temperature. The discovery could lead to the development of food plants able to flower in much higher temperatures.


Figure 3. The forecast change in precipitation for the period 2090 - 2100, as predicted by 21 climate models used to formulate the 2007 IPCC report on climate change. The "A1B Scenario" results here are for a moderate-case warming, with a best estimate temperature rise of 2.8°C with a likely range of 1.7 - 4.4°C (5.0°F with a likely range of 3.1 - 7.9°F). Blue areas show where more than 90% of the 21 models agree that precipitation increases are likely, while orange areas show where more than 90% of the 21 models agree that precipitation decreases are likely. Image credit: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007 Report.

The future of drought in Africa
Global warming theory predicts that although global precipitation should increase in a warmer climate, droughts will also increase in intensity, areal coverage, and frequency (Dai et al., 2004). This occurs because when the normal variability of weather patterns brings a period of dry weather to a region, the increased temperatures due to global warming will intensify drought conditions by causing more evaporation and drying up of vegetation. However, the models used in the 2007 IPCC report on climate change mostly predict an increase in rainfall over the Horn of Africa and the Sahel region of Africa (the southern boundary of the Sahara Desert) by the end of this century (Figure 3). The increased precipitation may act to limit the length and areal extent of droughts in these regions in coming decades. The droughts that do occur may increase in intensity, though, since temperature are predicted to increase by several degrees Centigrade. Could increased rainfall lead to a re-greening of the Sahara towards the lush conditions that existed 12,000 years ago? It is possible, argues Stefan Kropelin of the Institute of Prehistoric Archaeology at the University of Cologne in Germany. Satellite imagery has shown a greening of some southern portions of the Sahara (the Sahel) in recent years, he points out. However, some climate models show lower precipitation in coming decades for the Sahel and Horn of Africa, leading architect Magnus Lasson to propose building a 6,000 km long wall across the Sahara Desert to stop the spread of the desert. The wall would effectively be made by "freezing" the shifting sand dunes, turning them into sandstone using a bacterium called Bacillus pasteurii commonly found in wetlands. The microorganism chemically produces calcite--a kind of natural cement.

What the future ultimately holds for African climate is highly uncertain at this point. While the models used to formulate the 2007 IPCC report do a reasonable job simulating the the current climate over most of the world, they do a poor job of simulating Africa's current climate. The models put too much precipitation in southern Africa, and displace the band of heavy thunderstorms called the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ) too far south. The 2007 IPCC report concludes, "the absence of realistic variability in the Sahel in most 20th-century simulations casts some doubt on the reliability of models". In other words, since these models do a poor job simulating the current climate of the Sahel region of Africa, we shouldn't trust their predictions for the future climate.

References
Burke, M.B., Miguel, E., Satyanath, S., Dykema, J.A., and D. B. Lobell, "Warming increases the risk of civil war in Africa", PNAS 2009 106: 20670-20674.

Dai A., K.E. Trenberth, and T. Qian, 2004: A global data set of Palmer Drought Severity Index for 1870-2002: Relationship with soil moisture and effects of surface warming", J. Hydrometeorol., 5, 11171130.

Hendrix, C.S., and S.M. Glaser (2007), "Trends and triggers: Climate, climate change and civil conflict in sub-Saharan Africa". Political Geography 26:695-715.

Levy, M. A., Thorkelson, C., Vörösmarty, C., Douglas, E., and M. Humphreys (2005), "Freshwater availability anomalies and outbreak of internal war: results from a global spatial time series analysis". Paper presented at the International Workshop on Climate Change and Human Security, Oslo, Norway, June 21-23.

Lobell, D.B. et al. (2008), "Prioritizing climate change adaptation needs for food security in 2030", Science 319:607-610.

Raleigh and Urdal, 2007, "Climate change, environmental degradation and armed conflict", Political Geography 26 (6) (2007), pp. 674-694.

Sheffield, J., K. M. Andreadis, E. F. Wood, and D. P. Lettenmaier, 2009, "Global and continental drought in the second half of the 20th century: severity-area-duration analysis and temporal variability of large-scale events", J. Climate 22, pp 1962-1981.

Portlight successfully gets much-needed water filtration systems and medical supplies into Haiti
Portlight.org, the disaster-relief charity that has sprung up from the hard work and dedication of many members of the wunderground.com community, has successfully shipped medical equipment and a water filtration unit capable of supplying the needs of 3,500 people per day to the Dominican Republic. The supplies were loaded on trucks and driven into Haiti, and have reached the earthquake zone. These supplies are targeted to go to those with disabilities, or to those who are living in areas forgotten by the main aid efforts. Portlight is working through the local Catholic Church in Haiti, which is probably best positioned to deliver private aid donations to those in need. Paul Timmons, leader of the Portlight relief efforts, wrote this yesterday:

Thanks to Wunderground blogger Dak Simonton (Dakster) we were made aware of Richard Lamarque, a Haitian expatriate and 15 year veteran of the Miami Police Department who was planning to go back to Haiti this week to look for family members and to help with recovery efforts. Our on scene coordinator, Richard Lamarque, will be leaving for Haiti in a few days. He is from there, is well connected there, and has a skill set and life experiences which will be invaluable to our work there.

He will be traveling by ship. We have committed to purchasing for him a small truck to take with him. The truck will be loaded with supplies. Upon arrival, the benefits of having a vehicle on site are self evident. The truck will cost roughly $3,000 - $5,000. We have already earmarked $2000.00 for this.

We want this to be a uniquely Weather Underground community initiative. We will place WU signage on the truck...and we will be able to post photos of it at work in Haiti.

The Weather Underground community has been the genesis of our efforts. And the WU truck will be a long term, tangible symbol of the generosity of the WU community.

The next $3000 we receive will be earmarked for the WU truck. Please post this announcement to blogs...and forward it to all your WU friends.

So, please visit the Portlight.org blog to learn more and to donate. Floodman's blog has the latest info on Portlight's plan for Haitian relief. The Reeve Foundation, founded by Christopher and Dana Reeve has awarded Portlight Strategies a $10,000 Quality of of Life grant to assist in the relief efforts in Haiti. This is very big and will allow Portlight to pursue more aggressive relief efforts over the course of the next few weeks.

For those of you more interested in helping out with the long-term rebuilding of Haiti's shattered infrastructure from the quake, I recommend a contribution to Lambi Fund of Haiti, a charity that is very active in promoting reforestation efforts, use of alternative fuels, and infrastructure improvements at a grass-roots level in Haiti. I've developed a great respect for the work they do in the country in the five years I've been a supporter.

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Jeff Masters

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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


LMBO...yeah, that would take care of the old security clearance!!

With my luck it would FAIL, totally. EMI and the Fire Institute share the same campus. And those Fire boyz are major adrenaline-junkies; they'd be ON that and it would be over-and-out.

Well, yeah, I'd definitely be outta' there...but in prison. Federal prison. Not St. Petersburg. sigh.


haha is it worth the risk? Lol
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Quoting tornadodude:


throw something shiny down the hall? :P


LMBO...yeah, that would take care of the old security clearance!!

With my luck it would FAIL, totally. EMI and the Fire Institute share the same campus. And those Fire boyz are major adrenaline-junkies; they'd be ON that and it would be over-and-out.

Well, yeah, I'd definitely be outta' there...but in prison. Federal prison. Not St. Petersburg. sigh.
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@patrap this is "perfect"!
Does they use osmosis?
Sorry i have to agree i did not looked into your affords so close, besides reading the blog a few times.

Really great work!
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Quoting StormChaser81:


Just make a break for it, when there not looking or cause a distraction them run for it.


throw something shiny down the hall? :P
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
I'd SO much rather be in St. Petersburg...then Emmittsburg, MD...with yukky weather (technical term, there) coming in...

Somebody save me...from my supposed employer...


Just make a break for it, when there not looking or cause a distraction, then run for it.
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I'd SO much rather be in St. Petersburg...then Emmittsburg, MD...with yukky weather (technical term, there) coming in...

Somebody save me...from my supposed employer...

ADD: Skye...please tell me it's okay to smile! There's gotta' be a first for everything. We're all God's Children, imo :)
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Solar activity is at a minimum. This circumstance is currently responsible for a lesser degree on global warming.
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640. Skyepony (Mod)
What kind of reception was that? A first for sure..lol


Reception Tonight Is a First for AMS

January 17, 2010 · 0 comments

This evening at 8-10 p.m. is the First Annual Reception for
CoRioLiS: LGBTQs & Friends in the American Meteorological Society.

Enjoy refreshments and hear from guest speaker Guy Walton, TWC forecaster, on “Acceptance and Innovation at The Weather Channel.” (By the way, after you hear Walton’s talk at the reception, consider catching his temperature extremes study Tuesday at 11 a.m.).

The reception, in the Juniper Room M2-North Tower of the Omni Hotel, in sponsored by the AMS Board on Women & Minorities, the UCAR Community Building Program, and the National Organization of Gay and Lesbian Scientists and Technical Professionals (NOGLSTP). For more information, contact Zhenya Gallon at ext. 8607, zhenya@ucar.edu,
or see CoRioliS on Facebook.
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If anybody wants to travel to St. Petersburg, FL Thursday night.

Thurs night 1/21 starting at 7pm
Cafe Bohemia @ 937 Central Ave

There will be many a festivity... four bands playing, drinks, food, silent auction & raffles.
Donations will be received at the door, anything is great (of course!), but a $5 minimum is suggested. He will also be collecting toiletries and first aid supplies.

All donations will be circuited through
Hands 4 Hope
A local 501(c)3 nonprofit organization whose mission includes providing relief & resources to victims of natural disasters.
http://www.hands4hope.com/
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638. Skyepony (Mod)
This isn't the usual published abstract I'd post. It's a presentation at the AMS meeting that Masters is at & it's by Guy from TWC..


A tabulated ratio of record highs to record lows: a useful marker for on-going climate warming in the United States

Guy Walton Jr., The Weather Channel, Atlanta, GA; and G. Meehl

For the casual consumer of climate and weather information served by The Weather Channel™ (TWC) cable network and weather.com web site, the notion of anthropogenic-induced climate change (AGW) is a complex and often confusing subject matter. For example, the long time frame over which climate change acts, the noisiness of day to day weather variations, and the abstract notion of the Earth's equilibrium or average temperature are all crucial parts of the theory of AGW, but they can also tend to confound understanding of the basic science of climate change theory and its repercussions. Therefore at TWC, simple tools or information that succinctly and accurately demonstrate the so-called AGW effect or bring the processes responsible for AGW into clear relief, are in great demand. We've developed one such tool called the Climate Scorecard.

Since January 2000 the author has produced a weekly tabulation of high temperature and low temperature records attained at about 200 first-order stations in the U.S. It was very clear from the outset that the running tally or ratio of high temperature records to low was consistently running about 2:1 - which is counter to what one would expect from a stable or steady climate. More recently, starting in November 2006, the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) provided on-line daily, weekly, monthly and yearly record high and low temperature statistics for first-order and Cooperative stations with at least 30 years of record keeping (see: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/records/ for details). The author has now converted his own manual tracking of US records to NCDC's national database dating back to 1980.

The trend of the simple high/low temperature ratio does in fact show a value near 1:1 in the early 1980's that then rises well above 2:1 as it approaches present time. The 2:1 ratio is consistent from month to month during the calendar year, as well, from 1997, which was the warmest year globally on record, to the present time. The rate of increase in this ratio over the period amounts to about 4-5% annually. The week to week noise or variability of the high/low ratio is pronounced, but with time averaging over seasons or years the ever increasing ratio readily emerges from the data. The High/Low ratio statistic is the centerpiece of the Climate Scorecard, and gives on-air Meteorologists and Climatologists a simple and powerful metric for communicating the observed longer term warming. It also provides a concrete linkage between climate and weather, which is often in short supply in the broader discussion on AGW. This presentation will detail how The Weather Channel Climate Scorecard was developed, present the basic records data and how it trends over time, as well as discuss future uses of this robust and useful climate and weather tool.



Interesting approach. Wonder if he caught hell over having '97 as the warmest year. The debate is between '98(HadCRUT) & '05 (GISS/NASA)..
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


End of the world stuff

LINK1

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You'll have to Google the rest for yourself.

Disclaimer: Those prone to worrying and fretting about everything that has ever happened, everything that is happening, or about everything that may happen, disregard this post and the associated links.
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It can turn out that the aftermath will be more deadly than the earthquake. Because of illness + weakend people immun system + lack of handling the situation.

But how can you handle this?
How can you prevent the threat of water contamination later in the year when dead body fluids mix with ground and rain water?

Im not sure what the 10.000 eltie solderis doing there but i read somewhere they do not much besides showing up armed.

It's nice to see now dropped food/water packages (pretty late though) but this is a 1 timer.
Haiti needs sustainable sources to get back on it's feet. I think the basis would be a decentralized energy infrastrucutre driven by solar and wind.
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Quoting NEwxguy:
tdude,yeh,forgot about stormtop


483. ST0RMT0PSmom 7:25 AM GMT on July 01, 2006 Hide this comment.
STORMTOP IM GOING TO SPANK YOU, YOU BAD BOY. IVE RAISED YOU LIKE A BABY ALL YOUR LIFE. HIS OFFICE IS IN HIS SANDBOX FOLKS. THIS HAS BEEN AN OFFICIAL STORMTOP SPANKING....HEADER 001236


Posted By: STORMTOP at 4:54 AM GMT on July 01, 2006.
THIS IS A SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT ISSUED BY THE STORMTOPS WEATHER OFFICE AT MIDNIGHT CDT...THE DISTURBANCE LOCATED ABOUT 400 MILES SOUTH OF LAFAYETTE LOUISIANA HAS BECOME MORE CONCENTRATED AND THE SPIRAL RAIN BANDS ARE BEGINNING TO WRAP AROUND THE MLC...WIND SHEAR HAS LESSENED SINCE YESTERDAY AND PRESSURES ARE STILL FALLING IN THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF TONIGHT...SATELLITE PICS IN THE LAST FEW FRAMES INDICATE THE MLC IS WORKING ITSELF DOWN TO THE SURFACE...AND AIRFORCE RECON PLANE IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM SATURDAY EVENING UNLESS CONDITIONS WARRANT AND EARLIER FLIGHT...THE SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO STRENGHTEN ONCE IT REACHES TROPICAL DEPRESSION STATUS...THE SSTs ARE VERY WARM IN THIS PART OF THE GULF TONIGHT...ALL INTERESTS ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM IN CASE IT DEVELOPS INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OVER THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND...THE NEXT STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED BY MY OFFICE AT 8AM CDT UNLESS CONDITIONS WARRANT AND EALIER RELEASE..........000012


487. ST0RMT0PSmom 7:38 AM GMT on July 01, 2006 Hide this comment.
STORMTOP IVE TOLD YOU NOT TO POST ON HERE YOU NAUGHTY SON! I WILL HAVE PAPA STORMTOP DEAL WITH YOU AS SOON AS I RUN YOUR COMPUTER OVER WITH MY CAR.


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Quoting PcolaDan:
Thunder and lightning too. Had to check my calendar. Nope, not summer.



And so it begins.
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Quoting Floodman:


Who was the asian guy who got dumped from American Idol in the try outs but was so famously bad that the album he put out sold 800,000 copies? JFV is like that guy, huh?


Ah yes,William Hung
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tdude,yeh,forgot about stormtop
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Quoting NEwxguy:
LOL,is he not the most famous blogger on this site,no matter what subject,JFV pops up in the discussion,***rolling eyes***


Who was the asian guy who got dumped from American Idol in the try outs but was so famously bad that the album he put out sold 800,000 copies? JFV is like that guy, huh?
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Thunder and lightning too. Had to check my calendar. Nope, not summer.

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td really here it is i beleive we will enter our solar max period the next 2 yrs
soon activity will begin to increase reaching its peak at the same time as the the line up of the universe and ending of long count which will aid in enhancing solar flare output from the sun causing eltro magnetic charges to bombard the earth pretty well shorting out and burning up the entire electric and electronic systems world wide setting us back to the very humble beginnings (world as we know it ends) and taking us away from our electronic age it happen once before in our early electric and electronic age it cause widespread damage render systems useless but we were young and the tech was just in its dev phase it will happen again just a matter of time this time we have a lot more than ever and more depended on it than before
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Quoting twhcracker:
this is what bothers me... i fell off a horse about 3 years ago and got a "lumbar sprain". i didnt even break my back or crack it. i just sprained it and couldnt move and lay on the ground in agony for an hour til an ambulance came. it was like a pinched nerve but instead of an unbearable second of pain it went on and on and i would scream against my will when they moved me to the gurney, the xray table etc. i just keep thinking of the people in haiti who are in horrible pain and not even a hope of help. It is just eating at me thinking about this.i wish i could help so bad. I dont have a lot but payday is fri and i am sending as much as i can. my dog has to have surgery too and its a bad time financially, not just for me but a lot of people. i am so glad people on here are reaching out and doing what they can, doing so much really. its wonderful! there are so many much worse things than death, and slowly dying in horrible pain and fear is one of them. so thanks from me for doing what you guys are doing!


You have mail!
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Quoting NEwxguy:
LOL,is he not the most famous blogger on this site,no matter what subject,JFV pops up in the discussion,***rolling eyes***


it is either he or stormtop lol
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Quoting NEwxguy:
LOL,is he not the most famous blogger on this site,no matter what subject,JFV pops up in the discussion,***rolling eyes***


He worked hard to get there, where just showing respect for a legend.
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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

Idk why they said this but they have reason for this whatever.
Checkout this report .... they had to buy saw's at the market, because their support does not get through the airport!!! And this is frustrating because meaning more dead.
CNN video Doctor problems in Haiti


People will die because of lack of food and water, or from lack of medications and equipment. Pick your poison. Glad, I'm not the one who has to decide what lands and what doesn't.
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LOL,is he not the most famous blogger on this site,no matter what subject,JFV pops up in the discussion,***rolling eyes***
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Quoting jeffs713:

"... and I feel fine..."


there ya go haha
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Quoting StormChaser81:


Or his shower curtain fails to protect us from the end. If the world is coming to an end, I'm heading for his house and wrapping up with his shower curtain.


LOL that would be slightly awkward :p
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Quoting tornadodude:


"it's the end of the world as we know it..."

"... and I feel fine..."
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Quoting ElConando:


The world will end when JFV DOESN'T want to be hit by a hurricane.


Or his shower curtain fails to protect us from the end. If the world is coming to an end, I'm heading for his house and stealing his shower curtain.
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this is what bothers me... i fell off a horse about 3 years ago and got a "lumbar sprain". i didnt even break my back or crack it. i just sprained it and couldnt move and lay on the ground in agony for an hour til an ambulance came. it was like a pinched nerve but instead of an unbearable second of pain it went on and on and i would scream against my will when they moved me to the gurney, the xray table etc. i just keep thinking of the people in haiti who are in horrible pain and not even a hope of help. It is just eating at me thinking about this.i wish i could help so bad. I dont have a lot but payday is fri and i am sending as much as i can. my dog has to have surgery too and its a bad time financially, not just for me but a lot of people. i am so glad people on here are reaching out and doing what they can, doing so much really. its wonderful! there are so many much worse things than death, and slowly dying in horrible pain and fear is one of them. so thanks from me for doing what you guys are doing!
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
remember the world will never end just the world as we know it ends


The world will end when JFV DOESN'T want to be hit by a hurricane.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no no ya got it wrong its a solar max and a galatic line up all at the same time pop pop fizzle fizzle world as we know ends as a sizzle


A sizzle? Fo shizzle said Snoop Dizizzle...
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Same thing happened during K in NO. Folks showed up with boats but were turned away because they didnt have the criedentials. Didnt know you needed papers to get in a boat and save someone!

Just like this trajedity(sp) If you're a doctor, emt, firefighter, first responder, SAR, even CERT, heavy lift operator, crane operator, structural engineer basically anyone that knows something that would help especially if you have training dealing with large groups you shouldn't need paperwork to do what you do best.

I know our military can handle logistics and everything but sometimes you dont need red tape, just register their names, give them a map and let them do their thing. I have heard reports of planes with critical med supplies being turned around numerous times from landing because they didnt file an accepted document. Comeon man first aid is first aid. Get it in there and do whatn needs to be done.

Thats what is great with Portlight from what I hear and read. They are mobile and can get the boots and supplies on the ground in a hurry without the red tape!
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remember the world will never end just the world as we know it ends
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:



no
it happen before much to bright the northern lights will be a wondereous sight


"it's the end of the world as we know it..."
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Quoting tornadodude:


GW?



no
it happen before much to bright the northern lights will be a wondereous sight
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no no ya got it wrong its a solar max and a galatic line up all at the same time pop pop fizzle fizzle world as we know ends as a sizzle


In that case ill have a really long stick (maybe a couple of miles) for cooking marsh mellows and hot dogs.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no no ya got it wrong its a solar max and a galatic line up all at the same time pop pop fizzle fizzle world as we know ends as a sizzle


GW?
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Quoting tornadodude:


we are going to go back in time???? ;)
no no ya got it wrong its a solar max and a galatic line up all at the same time pop pop fizzle fizzle world as we know ends as a sizzle
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Quoting StormChaser81:


Maybe if it's a female Indian costume.


haha of course
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Quoting tornadodude:


We should save the Indian outfit for press :P lol


Maybe if it's a female Indian costume.
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They contacted Doctors Without Borders, who told them "thanks, but no thanks"

Idk why they said this but they have reason for this whatever.
Checkout this report .... they had to buy saw's at the market, because their support does not get through the airport!!! And this is frustrating because meaning more dead.
CNN video Doctor problems in Haiti
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Quoting StormChaser81:


Ah Back to the Future theory, that's a new one. Ill take note of that to be prepared and wear my cowboy get up or worse half naked Indian outfit.

"This use to be all Pines trees back in my day. Old man Peterson use to have this crazy idea of farming pine trees."


We should save the Indian outfit for press :P lol
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LOL tornado =)
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Quoting tornadodude:


we are going to go back in time???? ;)


Ah Back to the Future theory, that's a new one. Ill take note of that to be prepared and wear my cowboy get up or worse half naked Indian outfit.

"This use to be all Pines trees back in my day. Old man Peterson use to have this crazy idea of farming pine trees."
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Quoting Bonedog:
LOL I justcaught that I meant 22 LOL thanks for the catch


Lol no problem, thought it was funny :P
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