The uncertain legacy of Copenhagen

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:39 PM GMT on December 22, 2009

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The Copenhagen (COP15) climate summit is over, and leaves an uncertain legacy. What was accomplished in Copenhagen was far outweighed by what was not accomplished. While the final Copenhagen Accord affirmed that we must hold the warming of our planet below 2°C above pre-industrial levels by 2100 to avert dangerous climate change, no timetable for accomplishing that goal was specified. The promises made by the various nations at the summit would likely lead to a 3.9°C warming of the planet, according to an analysis by MIT's Sustainability Institute. Copenhagen did demonstrate that the hype preceding the talks was not undeserved--the stakes involved are huge, and we have an epic political battle on our hands that will afford high drama in 2010. Probably the best summary of the political battle at Copenhagen was posted by author Mark Lynas on the UK Guardian's web site. The title of the article was, "How do I know China wrecked the Copenhagen deal? I was in the room".

The leaders for greenhouse gas reductions
While the Copenhagen Summit made it clear that the coming battle will feature the U.S. and China, the voices of two tiny island nations--Tuvalu and The Maldives--will be important as well. When ranked by percentage of population located near the coast at an elevation of ten meters or less, the top five spots are held by small island nations with more than 90% of their population in this Low Elevation Coastal Zone--the Maldives, Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Cayman Islands, and Turks and Caicos Islands (McGranahan et al., 2007). The very existence of these island nations are threatened by sea level rise due to climate change. The leaders of Tuvalu and The Maldives brought considerable attention to their plight at the Copenhagen conference, and President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, in particular, has made his tiny country a force to be reckoned with in the coming battle.


Figure 1. President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, Vice President Dr Mohamed Waheed and 11 cabinet ministers donned scuba gear and submerged 4 meters below the surface of sea to hold the world's first underwater cabinet meeting on October 17, 2009, in order to dramatize the threat sea level rise poses to their country.

The leaders against greenhouse gas reductions
Canada has joined Saudi Arabia as a leading voice against efforts to control emissions of greenhouse gases. According to The Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), which is published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe, Canada ranks second to last in climate policy and in overall efforts to tackle climate change, among the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. Canada's national statement at COP15 featured no commitments of money or targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and Canada also lobbied to change the "base" year from when emission reductions should be computed from 1990 to 2006. Croatia was the only other country to support Canada's position. The notorious political pranksters The Yes Men dramatized Canada's position by issuing a phony press release during COP15 claiming that Canada had come to its senses and was now going to work toward a 40 per cent cut in greenhouse gas emissions, the type of cut scientists say is necessary if we are to avoid dangerous warming of more than 2°C over pre-industrial levels. Canadian reporters immediately recognized the news release as a hoax. Canadian politics is heavily dominated by the fossil fuel industry, and Canadian reporters immediately saw the impossibility of the Canadian government performing an about-face on climate policy.


Figure 2. The top ten and bottom ten performing countries on the Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe to rank the efforts to combat climate change of the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. The ranking system factors in three scores: the emissions level (CO2 per primary energy unit, primary energy unit per GDP, and primary energy unit per capita); the emissions trend (whether emissions are rising or falling), and a subjective rating of the nation's national and international climate policy. Tall bars indicate a higher ranking, and thin bars represent a poor ranking. None of the 57 countries were doing enough to keep global warming below 2°C, so the top three spots on the list were left blank. Image credit: Germanwatch.org.

Comparison with the battle over CFC regulations and the ozone hole
On June 28, 1974, Sherry Rowland and Mario Molina, chemists at the University of California, Irvine, published the first scientific paper warning that human-generated chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) could cause serious harm to Earth's protective ozone layer (Molina and Rowland, 1974). They calculated that if CFC production continued to increase at the going rate of 10%/year until 1990, then remain steady, CFCs would cause a global 5 to 7 percent ozone loss by 1995 and 30 - 50% loss by 2050.

They warned that the loss of ozone would significantly increase the amount of skin-damaging ultraviolet UV-B light reaching the surface, greatly increasing skin cancer and cataracts. The loss of stratospheric ozone could also significantly cool the stratosphere, potentially causing destructive climate change. Although no stratospheric ozone loss had been observed yet, CFCs should be banned, they said. A huge international political battle ensued, one that eerily echoes many of the same themes as the battle over global warming. In a 1984 interview in The New Yorker, Dr. Rowland concluded, "Nothing will be done about this problem until there is further evidence that a significant loss of ozone has occurred. Unfortunately, this means that if there is a disaster in the making in the stratosphere we are probably not going to avoid it." These prophetic words were proved true the very next year with the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole. Speedy action to save the planet from potentially disastrous loss of the ozone layer was realized with the swift implementation of the Montreal Protocol two years later, though.

As was the case with the battle over the CFCs and the ozone layer, I expect it will take a obvious imminent climate change disaster to motivate governments to take strong action. I believed in September 2007 that such an event had occurred, when the Arctic ice cap lost more than half of its area, compared to levels observed in the early 1950s. I was astounded at the nonchalance the event earned in the press and among politicians. But, in hindsight I should not have been surprised, since the stakes are very much higher than the battle to ban CFCs--now we are talking about the fossil fuel industry, the very basis for our modern industrialized society. A very big, very obvious disaster in the making will probably be needed to motivate strong enough action to make a major difference in CO2 emissions. Our climate is certainly capable of generating such an event in the coming decade. Unfortunately, if we wait until a disaster is obviously imminent, we will have far less time to prevent a climate disaster than we had for the ozone depletion crisis. The lifetime of CFCs in the atmosphere is 50 - 140 years, but a substantial portion of the CO2 put in the air stays for thousands of years. According to the 2007 IPCC report, "About 50% of a CO2 increase will be removed from the atmosphere within 30 years, and a further 30% will be removed within a few centuries. The remaining 20% may stay in the atmosphere for many thousands of years."

References
McGranahan, G., D. Balk, and B. Anderson, 2007, "The rising tide: assessing the risks of climate change and human settlements in low elevation coastal zones", Environment & Urbanization, 19(1), 17-37.

Molina, M.J., and F.S. Rowland, "Stratospheric Sink for Chlorofluoromethanes: Chlorine Atom-Catalyzed Destruction of Ozone", Nature 249, 810-812, 1974.

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Have a great Christmas, everyone, and I'll be back with a new post on Monday (at the latest).

Jeff Masters

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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Hmmm, think I'd rather have snow again.
Very odd things here...yesterday the snow was still between our ankles and knees...had to walk on trampled snow paths in field for our little dogs. Today the snow is almost all gone...which explains the flood warnings...and the grass that was underneath is very green and there's even some new growth. It's almost January...dead of winter!


Snow is an amazing insulator. The cold snow kept the ground just warm enough for grass to grow, isn't that special! You must have had alot of warm December weather before the big storm struck. The snow is porous enough to let the grass breathe underneath the former 2' snowpack.
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Could somebody please send me some snow? We keep getting wetter and colder here - just not at the same time but may run out of both soon!..lol
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Hmmm, think I'd rather have snow again.
Very odd things here...yesterday the snow was still between our ankles and knees...had to walk on trampled snow paths in field for our little dogs. Today the snow is almost all gone...which explains the flood warnings...and the grass that was underneath is very green and there's even some new growth. It's almost January...dead of winter!
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GFS 18Z Model Run, at 180HRS 1-3-10, 1AM EST, a 970MB BOMB/28.64" (equivalent to the barometric pressure in a CAT 2 Hurricane) SE of Cape Cod, MA. WOW :0)!!Wrap around snow along the coast, down to NC/VA border, amazing!




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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


HA! You betcha' handsome. SORRY for time delay. I COULDN'T HEAR YOU or SEE YOU, becuz my, ahem, better half HAD MY, YES MY, Christmas present -- Foo Fighters Greatest Hits DVD, TURNED UP TO 9 outta' 10. It really is a great DVD, btw!

Glad all is well in Arlington, TX!
I'm planning on being better prepared for this next snow whammy...which will make Arlington, VA, a MESS AGAIN! I just didn't really believe it last time...although ya'll told me, and told me, and...


This is the GFS solution for 162 HRS into the future 1-2-10 at 7AM EST. This map shows a 982MB/28.99" "Super Low" off of the DELMARVA region. This run shows this to be a "rainmaker" for the Mid Atlantic coastal region, from the coast to about 100 to 150mi inland. This storm looks like it will produce E winds from 30-35MPH, with gusts over 50+ along the coast!

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Quoting Bordonaro:


Hey Awake In Marland :o)!! "My house weather station SE Arlington, TX weather summary", today, Saturday, 12/26/09:

Today's High: 51F
Today's Low: 25F
Average Temp: 38F
+ or - Normal: 7F below normal

At 6:11PM CST, 12-26-09 Current Conditions:

Clear

Temp: 41F
Rel Hum: 47%
Dew Pt: 22F
Winds: Calm :0)
Bar Press: 30.13" and rising

How are ya' beautiful? Getting ready for a snowstorm next week???


HA! You betcha' handsome. SORRY for time delay. I COULDN'T HEAR YOU or SEE YOU, becuz my, ahem, better half HAD MY, YES MY, Christmas present -- Foo Fighters Greatest Hits DVD, TURNED UP TO 9 outta' 10. It really is a great DVD, btw!

Glad all is well in Arlington, TX!
I'm planning on being better prepared for this next snow whammy...which will make Arlington, VA, a MESS AGAIN! I just didn't really believe it last time...although ya'll told me, and told me, and...
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1282. aquak9
For any needed info concerning getting your weather station online, RainmanWeather has a new area designed specifically for Wunderground.

For stations that provide excellent service:

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Technical assistance:

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1281. Skyepony (Mod)
Astro~ 200 ACE next year is shooting high. That would be in top 6 since 1940..

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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Bless you, too! Here's to a GREAT 2010!!


Hey Awake In Marland :o)!! "My house weather station SE Arlington, TX weather summary", today, Saturday, 12/26/09:

Today's High: 51F
Today's Low: 25F
Average Temp: 38F
+ or - Normal: 7F below normal

At 6:11PM CST, 12-26-09 Current Conditions:

Clear

Temp: 41F
Rel Hum: 47%
Dew Pt: 22F
Winds: Calm :0)
Bar Press: 30.13" and rising

How are ya' beautiful? Getting ready for a snowstorm next week???
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Quoting catastropheadjuster:
I want to Thank You all for all the kind words and thoughts for me and my family. God Bless you all are Angels.

Sheri


We're just your friends. Everything is gonna work out just fine!!
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Quoting catastropheadjuster:
I want to Thank You all for all the kind words and thoughts for me and my family. God Bless you all are Angels.

Sheri


Bless you, too! Here's to a GREAT 2010!!
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When is it gonna be the Gulf Coasts turn?
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I want to Thank You all for all the kind words and thoughts for me and my family. God Bless you all are Angels.

Sheri
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


The ProWeatherStation™ is a high performance wireless data logging weather station with advanced sensor technology resulting in good accuracy at a low cost. It provides instantaneous and historical data on Inside and Outside Temperature and Humidity, Wind Speed (average and gust), Wind Direction, Barometric Pressure and Rainfall.




i have one been in full operation since apr 12 2009 so far so good no problems with with it



Same one that Oz got me! Works Great!
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Quoting btwntx08:
18z gfs this is at the stoke of midnight 2010


Happy New Year North Central TX and Central TX. A big snow/ice event possibly shaping up!
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18z gfs this is at the stoke of midnight 2010
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Beell and Btwntx08. The next storm will be the Miller A type, right up the E Coast, another repeat of their Pre- Christmas Storm up and down the E Coast!!
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Quoting Bordonaro:


The GFS 18Z run is being done now. They're up to Day 3. The DFW forecast for early next week is interesting:

Tuesday: A chance of rain and snow before noon, then a chance of rain, snow, and sleet. Cloudy, with a high near 37. Calm wind becoming east southeast around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Tuesday Night: A chance of rain and sleet. Cloudy, with a low around 32. North northwest wind around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Wednesday: A 30 percent chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 43. South southwest wind around 5 mph becoming east northeast.

Snow/sleet and freezing rain 3x in December is very UNUSUAL, even for Dallas-Ft Worth, TX.

Modiki El Nino..

A portion of the DFW Area Forecast, 1:44PM today:

ALL MED RANGE MODELS BEGIN LIFTING SRN STREAM SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE
ACROSS MEXICO/W TX BIG BEND BY 12Z/DAYBREAK TUES...BEFORE DEVELOPING
A TX COASTAL DISTURBANCE JUST EAST OF BROWNSVILLE/CORPUS CHRISTI BY
TUES EVENING. MEANWHILE...LIFT AND COOLING OF LAYER BELOW 700 MB
LIKELY TO RESULT IN WET-BULB COOLING AND HAVE MAINTAINED MORE OF A
WINTRY MIXTURE OF RAIN/SLEET/SNOW THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING
ACROSS NW HALF OF NORTH TEXAS. SOME DIFFERENCES ON MOISTURE AND
DEPTH OF COLD AIR...BUT ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO CONTINUE WINTRY MIX
THROUGH TUES NIGHT TIME FRAME PER AVERAGE THICKNESSES VALUES OF
SEVERAL MODELS.

IT APPEARS DEEPER COLD AIR SHUNTS NORTH OF THE BORDER MOSTLY ON
WEDNESDAY...BUT A LITTLE WEARY OF THE COLUMN WARMING FULLY TO ABOVE
FREEZING. FOR NOW...WILL KEEP WEDNESDAY ALL RAIN...BUT AREAS NORTH
OF I-20 WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED FOR ANY COLD AIR INTRUSIONS BEHIND
DEPARTING COASTAL TROUGH. WE MAY GO AHEAD AND ISSUE A SPECIAL WX
STATEMENT/SPS TO FOREWARN OF THE POTENTIAL AND UNCERTAINTY ON
PRECIPITATION TYPE TUES/TUES NIGHT...AS MED RANGE MODELS APPEAR TO
AGREE ON TIMING OF SYSTEM AND DEVELOPMENT. IF NOT...WE`LL DEFINITELY
ENHANCE HAZARDOUS WX OUTLOOK.





how about a new year snow for u wow!!
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1270. beell
Quoting Bordonaro:
Wow, the "Christmas Day Blizzard" is starting to wind down. However, there are some preety impressive snow and frezing rain totals, Link below has the full details:
Link


Pretty darn impressive, Bordo. Especially in the Black Hills, area. Lead and nearby Deadwood, SD. Looks like they win the contest but they cheated! At least a 2,000 ft rise in elevation providing orographic lift in a relatively small area. From E to W-same general direction the wrap around snow was moving.

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A grab from the Rapid City,SD NWS from another storm showing a spike in snow totals compared to surrounding areas:



From wiki:
The city was officially founded in July 10, 1876, after the discovery of gold. It is the site of the Homestake Mine, the largest, deepest (8240 feet) and most productive gold mine in the Western Hemisphere before closing in January 2002.c

There may not be anymore gold but they got snow.




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Quoting AstroHurricane001:


I think that El Nino will transition to a weak stage by May to June, with that persisting as a form of modified El Nino Modoki influence that will be gone by September. In addition, I think that the Western Hemisphere Warm Pool Link will develop in mid-winter due to anomalies near the Equatorial East Pacific, leading to "open season" for the Caribbean earlier than usual. My current (though incomplete) predictions for the 2010 season are $70 billion in damage, 2,500 fatalities, Accumalated Cyclone Energy (ACE) of 200, total 15 storms, and 3 retired names (however, these are just predictions, and some of these are specifically for those parameters that aren't usually predicted by bloggers until closer to the season).


Sadly enough, that is ALL possible, if a CAT 2 or 3 storm hits a major city along the US coastline.
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Quoting caribbeantracker01:
so do u believe la nina or el nino will be around for 2010 hurricane season?


I think that El Nino will transition to a weak stage by May to June, with that persisting as a form of modified El Nino Modoki influence that will be gone by September. In addition, I think that the Western Hemisphere Warm Pool Link will develop in mid-winter due to anomalies near the Equatorial East Pacific, leading to "open season" for the Caribbean earlier than usual. My current (though incomplete) predictions for the 2010 season are $70 billion in damage, 2,500 fatalities, Accumalated Cyclone Energy (ACE) of 200, total 15 storms, and 3 retired names (however, these are just predictions, and some of these are specifically for those parameters that aren't usually predicted by bloggers until closer to the season).
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Quoting btwntx08:
this is the 12z gfs run the 18z run should be out not to long from now!!


The GFS 18Z run is being done now. They're up to Day 3. The DFW forecast for early next week is interesting:

Tuesday: A chance of rain and snow before noon, then a chance of rain, snow, and sleet. Cloudy, with a high near 37. Calm wind becoming east southeast around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Tuesday Night: A chance of rain and sleet. Cloudy, with a low around 32. North northwest wind around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Wednesday: A 30 percent chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 43. South southwest wind around 5 mph becoming east northeast.

Snow/sleet and freezing rain 3x in December is very UNUSUAL, even for Dallas-Ft Worth, TX.

Modiki El Nino..

A portion of the DFW Area Forecast, 1:44PM today:

ALL MED RANGE MODELS BEGIN LIFTING SRN STREAM SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE
ACROSS MEXICO/W TX BIG BEND BY 12Z/DAYBREAK TUES...BEFORE DEVELOPING
A TX COASTAL DISTURBANCE JUST EAST OF BROWNSVILLE/CORPUS CHRISTI BY
TUES EVENING. MEANWHILE...LIFT AND COOLING OF LAYER BELOW 700 MB
LIKELY TO RESULT IN WET-BULB COOLING AND HAVE MAINTAINED MORE OF A
WINTRY MIXTURE OF RAIN/SLEET/SNOW THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING
ACROSS NW HALF OF NORTH TEXAS. SOME DIFFERENCES ON MOISTURE AND
DEPTH OF COLD AIR...BUT ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO CONTINUE WINTRY MIX
THROUGH TUES NIGHT TIME FRAME PER AVERAGE THICKNESSES VALUES OF
SEVERAL MODELS.

IT APPEARS DEEPER COLD AIR SHUNTS NORTH OF THE BORDER MOSTLY ON
WEDNESDAY...BUT A LITTLE WEARY OF THE COLUMN WARMING FULLY TO ABOVE
FREEZING. FOR NOW...WILL KEEP WEDNESDAY ALL RAIN...BUT AREAS NORTH
OF I-20 WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED FOR ANY COLD AIR INTRUSIONS BEHIND
DEPARTING COASTAL TROUGH. WE MAY GO AHEAD AND ISSUE A SPECIAL WX
STATEMENT/SPS TO FOREWARN OF THE POTENTIAL AND UNCERTAINTY ON
PRECIPITATION TYPE TUES/TUES NIGHT...AS MED RANGE MODELS APPEAR TO
AGREE ON TIMING OF SYSTEM AND DEVELOPMENT. IF NOT...WE`LL DEFINITELY
ENHANCE HAZARDOUS WX OUTLOOK.




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Quoting PensacolaDoug:

Good grief Charlie Brown.
Do you believe your own rhetoric Press?
Thats gotta be the goofiest post you've ever put up! And thats saying something!

I am beginning to agree with Press about Jesse Ventura.

At first I thought Jesse might have some good ideas and that Press was all wrong; but when I found out that Jesse had said the center of the earth was a million degrees, I thought...'How stupid can one person be?'

Well, what do you expect from a pro-wrestler...brains??

Time to go looking for a new spokesperson I guess.

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yeah!!!! true..
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Quoting caribbeantracker01:
so do u believe la nina or el nino will be around for 2010 hurricane season?


My opinion is that the El Nino will end by mid May 2010. I believe the 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season will be real busy..
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so do u believe la nina or el nino will be around for 2010 hurricane season?
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Quoting caribbeantracker01:
could anyone help me out i am doing an early scope on d sea surface temps for 2009-2010, i am seeing a simular trend with la nina years??


There appears to be a new "El Nino Modoki" phenomenon emerging in the Central Pacific, and currently there is research to determine whether La Nina is undergoing a similar trend. There are also some websites with maps of current SSTs and anomalies, as the WeatherUnderground tropical page does, which I have been tracking for the past three weeks, and it looks like El Nino conditions have accelerated faster than predicted in that time frame. Here are some more links:

Climate4You
SST and anomaly archives c. 2000 - present
Climate Prediction Center
CFS Climate Anomalies Forecast
Scripps Experimental El Nino Forecast
Monthly Mean SST Anomalies 1984 - 1998
NCOF SST Monitoring Page
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this is the 12z gfs run the 18z run should be out not to long from now!!
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Wow, the "Christmas Day Blizzard" is starting to wind down. However, there are some preety impressive snow and frezing rain totals, Link below has the full details:
Link
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could anyone help me out i am doing an early scope on d sea surface temps for 2009-2010, i am seeing a simular trend with la nina years??
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Those who don't take the first step until every question is answered wil spend their lives standing on one foot...
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Please check this out...and help as you are able...Thanks!!
Link
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1256. Skyepony (Mod)
Bordonaro ~ That la Crosse I had was pretty basic. Used Heavy Weather software.
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Quoting MILLERTIME1:
14.1 inches of snow in Oklahoma City. All time recorded! Can some send me a shot of Global Warming to melt this?


These North American storms seem to be occuring roughly once a week, with records broken in each one. This is likely a weather pattern associated with the current El Nino phase and Arctic Oscillation that is sending Gulf/California storms on a collision course with cold Arctic air.
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14.1 inches of snow in Oklahoma City. All time recorded! Can some send me a shot of Global Warming to melt this?
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Quoting Patrap:
How does the Exxon Valdez incident,which claimed Zero Human Lives,..compare to a Natural Disaster that claimed 230,000 Human Lives in 14 countries?

It dont.

Also,,it was a tug that ran aground on the reef..hardly a "ship".

Mile-long sheen spreads near disabled tugboat

The tug Pathfinder is surrounded by a spill containment boom Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009, in Prince William Sound, Alaska. The Pathfinder, a 136-foot tug scouting for ice along Prince William Sound's oil shipping lanes near Valdez, Alaska, grounded on Bligh Reef on Wednesday. (AP Photo/Anchorage Daily News, Marc Lester)


I'm not making a direct comparison between the two disasters (tsunami and the oil spill), rather an analogy. After the oil spill, many residents of Cordova lost their jobs because the fishing industry had largely collapsed, and morale in the close-knit community severely declined. Many residents had invested in the local economy at Cordova prior to the spill. As a storm drove oil slicks into the harbour of the city, oil leeched into the soils. Salmon, herring and other species in the area have only begun to recover. Many former residents of Cordova commited suicide, including one former mayor. So while there were no direct human deaths, indirect effects severely damaged the community near to where the oil spill took place.

Some links for reference:

Cordova, Alaska - Wikipedia
Durango Herald News, February 2009
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1252. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting Bordonaro:


How long did you have your La Crosse Weather Station? How did you like it?


Transmition from outside worked nearly 5 years Inside conditions are still going. I think you have a different anemometer. Mine had the directional too, all in one. I replaced that once. The anemometer part broke every two years. Had a little fan, spiders liked to move in & freeze up. All in one location, wind cups on the anemometer & Touch screen has been nice on the Tycon.
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1251. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
Quoting Skyepony:
Keeper~ We have the same one..mine this morning. I have it over the garden for now.

good little system i was fooled by its appearance when i first got it but overall very happy with it i have it mounted on top of the elevator room on the building which is 150 feet high then another 25 feet above the roof line
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Quoting Skyepony:
Keeper~ We have the same one..mine this morning. I have it over the garden for now.



A very nice looking weather station :o)!
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Quoting severstorm:
Nice, I have a honeywell t-924. It has just about everything on it. What software do you have to link it to the internet. I have weather display, had this for a couple of yrs. Like to know what other people use.
i used cumlus software and station graphics
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1248. Skyepony (Mod)
Keeper~ We have the same one..mine this morning. I have it over the garden for now.

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Quoting Skyepony:
Bordonaro~ Yeah Europe is having a wild El Nino too..

I just got my new Tycon up last night. Haven't got into the software yet. My old La Crosse died a few months ago.


How long did you have your La Crosse Weather Station? How did you like it?
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Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Today is the 5th anniversary of the Indian Ocean tsunami :(


See Post 1218...and after...you're a wee bit late to the post-holiday "hotwash" and after-action report.
Hope you had a good Christmas!
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Quoting severstorm:
Nice, I have a honeywell t-924. It has just about everything on it. What software do you have to link it to the internet. I have weather display, had this for a couple of yrs. Like to know what other people use.


Unfortunately, since this is one of LaCrosse's basic models, there is no software availiable, at least that I have been able to find from them, or on the net.
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1244. Skyepony (Mod)
Bordonaro~ Yeah Europe is having a wild El Nino too..

I just got my new Tycon up last night. Haven't got into the software yet. My old La Crosse died a few months ago.
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1243. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
Quoting Bordonaro:


LaCrosse Model WS-1910TWC-IT. It tells you the wind speed/gusts, temp in/out, windchill, dewpoint out, barometer, plus max/min for temp, wind speed/gusts, wind chill, barometer.

It does not have a rain gage, which I will buy seperately or a wind rose, to indicate direction, but that's no biggie!


The ProWeatherStation™ is a high performance wireless data logging weather station with advanced sensor technology resulting in good accuracy at a low cost. It provides instantaneous and historical data on Inside and Outside Temperature and Humidity, Wind Speed (average and gust), Wind Direction, Barometric Pressure and Rainfall.




i have one been in full operation since apr 12 2009 so far so good no problems with with it
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1241. Patrap
Be Prepared for Hurricanes, Anytime
Awareness Week is May 23rd through 29th, 2010


What will the 2010 season bring? No matter what the forecast, it only takes one landfalling hurricane to make a season memorable. Preparedness is the key to surviving any hurricane season, and we hope the following information, along with that in the Texas Hurricane Guide, Rio Grande Valley Edition will help residents of the Rio Grande Valley and Deep South Texas to make smart decisions well before any storms arrive on our shores. What you do now may well save your life, your family, and protect your property from the perils of hurricanes, this year and any year.
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1233. You've a right to that opinion, and I understand although can hardly fathom the magnitude of the tsunami tragedy...but you're smart enough to judge for yourself the long-term effects. How other living things fare, continue to exist or fade from the earth, is also important and inextricably linked to our earthly future.

www.epa.gov/OEM/docs/oil/fss/fss02/ricepresent.pdf (I don't know how to link this.)

contaminants.fws.gov/Documents/ExxonValdez.pdf (or this...)

Published on Monday, February 9, 2009 by the Anchorage Daily News
Debate Persists About Long-Term Effects of Exxon Valdez Oil Spill
Vanishing Whales: Prince William Sound mystery

by Kyle Hopkins

Link

long article; first few para.

An already fragile population of killer whales that hunts Prince William Sound never recovered from the Exxon Valdez oil spill and is doomed to die off, biologists said this week.

Marine mammal biologist Craig Matkin of Homer has tracked the animals since the mid-1980s and said he never thought he'd see an entire population of whales -- even a small one -- disappear.

"To blame it all on the spill would not be fair, but that's the final death blow," Matkin said.
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Nice, I have a honeywell t-924. It has just about everything on it. What software do you have to link it to the internet. I have weather display, had this for a couple of yrs. Like to know what other people use.
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