The uncertain legacy of Copenhagen

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:39 PM GMT on December 22, 2009

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The Copenhagen (COP15) climate summit is over, and leaves an uncertain legacy. What was accomplished in Copenhagen was far outweighed by what was not accomplished. While the final Copenhagen Accord affirmed that we must hold the warming of our planet below 2°C above pre-industrial levels by 2100 to avert dangerous climate change, no timetable for accomplishing that goal was specified. The promises made by the various nations at the summit would likely lead to a 3.9°C warming of the planet, according to an analysis by MIT's Sustainability Institute. Copenhagen did demonstrate that the hype preceding the talks was not undeserved--the stakes involved are huge, and we have an epic political battle on our hands that will afford high drama in 2010. Probably the best summary of the political battle at Copenhagen was posted by author Mark Lynas on the UK Guardian's web site. The title of the article was, "How do I know China wrecked the Copenhagen deal? I was in the room".

The leaders for greenhouse gas reductions
While the Copenhagen Summit made it clear that the coming battle will feature the U.S. and China, the voices of two tiny island nations--Tuvalu and The Maldives--will be important as well. When ranked by percentage of population located near the coast at an elevation of ten meters or less, the top five spots are held by small island nations with more than 90% of their population in this Low Elevation Coastal Zone--the Maldives, Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Cayman Islands, and Turks and Caicos Islands (McGranahan et al., 2007). The very existence of these island nations are threatened by sea level rise due to climate change. The leaders of Tuvalu and The Maldives brought considerable attention to their plight at the Copenhagen conference, and President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, in particular, has made his tiny country a force to be reckoned with in the coming battle.


Figure 1. President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, Vice President Dr Mohamed Waheed and 11 cabinet ministers donned scuba gear and submerged 4 meters below the surface of sea to hold the world's first underwater cabinet meeting on October 17, 2009, in order to dramatize the threat sea level rise poses to their country.

The leaders against greenhouse gas reductions
Canada has joined Saudi Arabia as a leading voice against efforts to control emissions of greenhouse gases. According to The Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), which is published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe, Canada ranks second to last in climate policy and in overall efforts to tackle climate change, among the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. Canada's national statement at COP15 featured no commitments of money or targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and Canada also lobbied to change the "base" year from when emission reductions should be computed from 1990 to 2006. Croatia was the only other country to support Canada's position. The notorious political pranksters The Yes Men dramatized Canada's position by issuing a phony press release during COP15 claiming that Canada had come to its senses and was now going to work toward a 40 per cent cut in greenhouse gas emissions, the type of cut scientists say is necessary if we are to avoid dangerous warming of more than 2°C over pre-industrial levels. Canadian reporters immediately recognized the news release as a hoax. Canadian politics is heavily dominated by the fossil fuel industry, and Canadian reporters immediately saw the impossibility of the Canadian government performing an about-face on climate policy.


Figure 2. The top ten and bottom ten performing countries on the Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe to rank the efforts to combat climate change of the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. The ranking system factors in three scores: the emissions level (CO2 per primary energy unit, primary energy unit per GDP, and primary energy unit per capita); the emissions trend (whether emissions are rising or falling), and a subjective rating of the nation's national and international climate policy. Tall bars indicate a higher ranking, and thin bars represent a poor ranking. None of the 57 countries were doing enough to keep global warming below 2°C, so the top three spots on the list were left blank. Image credit: Germanwatch.org.

Comparison with the battle over CFC regulations and the ozone hole
On June 28, 1974, Sherry Rowland and Mario Molina, chemists at the University of California, Irvine, published the first scientific paper warning that human-generated chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) could cause serious harm to Earth's protective ozone layer (Molina and Rowland, 1974). They calculated that if CFC production continued to increase at the going rate of 10%/year until 1990, then remain steady, CFCs would cause a global 5 to 7 percent ozone loss by 1995 and 30 - 50% loss by 2050.

They warned that the loss of ozone would significantly increase the amount of skin-damaging ultraviolet UV-B light reaching the surface, greatly increasing skin cancer and cataracts. The loss of stratospheric ozone could also significantly cool the stratosphere, potentially causing destructive climate change. Although no stratospheric ozone loss had been observed yet, CFCs should be banned, they said. A huge international political battle ensued, one that eerily echoes many of the same themes as the battle over global warming. In a 1984 interview in The New Yorker, Dr. Rowland concluded, "Nothing will be done about this problem until there is further evidence that a significant loss of ozone has occurred. Unfortunately, this means that if there is a disaster in the making in the stratosphere we are probably not going to avoid it." These prophetic words were proved true the very next year with the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole. Speedy action to save the planet from potentially disastrous loss of the ozone layer was realized with the swift implementation of the Montreal Protocol two years later, though.

As was the case with the battle over the CFCs and the ozone layer, I expect it will take a obvious imminent climate change disaster to motivate governments to take strong action. I believed in September 2007 that such an event had occurred, when the Arctic ice cap lost more than half of its area, compared to levels observed in the early 1950s. I was astounded at the nonchalance the event earned in the press and among politicians. But, in hindsight I should not have been surprised, since the stakes are very much higher than the battle to ban CFCs--now we are talking about the fossil fuel industry, the very basis for our modern industrialized society. A very big, very obvious disaster in the making will probably be needed to motivate strong enough action to make a major difference in CO2 emissions. Our climate is certainly capable of generating such an event in the coming decade. Unfortunately, if we wait until a disaster is obviously imminent, we will have far less time to prevent a climate disaster than we had for the ozone depletion crisis. The lifetime of CFCs in the atmosphere is 50 - 140 years, but a substantial portion of the CO2 put in the air stays for thousands of years. According to the 2007 IPCC report, "About 50% of a CO2 increase will be removed from the atmosphere within 30 years, and a further 30% will be removed within a few centuries. The remaining 20% may stay in the atmosphere for many thousands of years."

References
McGranahan, G., D. Balk, and B. Anderson, 2007, "The rising tide: assessing the risks of climate change and human settlements in low elevation coastal zones", Environment & Urbanization, 19(1), 17-37.

Molina, M.J., and F.S. Rowland, "Stratospheric Sink for Chlorofluoromethanes: Chlorine Atom-Catalyzed Destruction of Ozone", Nature 249, 810-812, 1974.

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Have a great Christmas, everyone, and I'll be back with a new post on Monday (at the latest).

Jeff Masters

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Thanks for the plot. Note the policy column. I keep saying that China actually has a pretty good policy on how to attack the problem (reduce energy intensity) and the reviewer agrees.

The US is pathetic. The enviro-hypocrits keep up there high carbon life style while doing their best to kill alternative energy (Fienstein's bill). The right is clueless.

My $15,000 to reduce home energy use to less than $100 a month during the hot Texas sumers (not including the solar hot water, WHICH WILL NOT PAY OUT) through run tackle block things like insulation and windows will pay out in 11 years.

America needs to reduce energy intensity period. Lest the Chinese become even MORE cost competative!

"What is your carbon footprint and what are you doing to reduce it" (question asked by my 11 year old daughter to a panel of "experts" at a Focus the Nation event in January 2008). Huge footprints and doing nothing (except for the IPCC scientist).

America is pathetic WRT energy. And being in the extraction industry drill baby drill, although its going to be necessary to meet demand, ain't going to get us there by a long run.

America, when the power goes out (or is all generated by coal), you only have yourselves to blame.

On both sides of the political aisle.

China is doing the correct thing and will whip our behinds in the future (it is the best policy to reduce CO2 short term while maintaining prosperity).
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This is a TRUE miracle. Todays snowfall of 3" is a record for Christmas Eve. This was the FIRST measureable snowfall on Christmas Eve, since record-keeping began, our weather records go back to 1898. This will be our first White Christmas since 1926, which is 83 yrs ago. I took pics that I will post later on.

May the Living God bless everyone, have a pleasant holiday season, Merry Christmas!

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Merry Christmas all!!!!!!
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Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
And just for Patrap, a very Merry Christmas from the cats who let us live with them:

Madame Gigi Laveau, the feline voodoo priestess, and her partner in crime, The Wild Tchoupitoulas...





Nola Roux say's those are some nice Uptown Kitty's fo sho..!

And a Merry Christmas to them and you..!
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Merry Christmas to all! Remember our troops !
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Merry Christmas all.
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Thanks, hydrus and tdude! I have to get back to baking, but I wanted to pop in for a minute to spread the holiday cheer. :)
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And just for Patrap, a very Merry Christmas from the cats who let us live with them:

Madame Gigi Laveau, the feline voodoo priestess, and her partner in crime, The Wild Tchoupitoulas...

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Lawrenceville-Vincennes Intl Airport
Lat: 38.76 Lon: -87.6 Elev: 430
Last Update on Dec 24, 9:53 pm CST

Light Rain

52 °F
(11 °C)
Humidity: 80 %
Wind Speed: E 13 MPH
Barometer: 29.55" (1000.6 mb)
Dewpoint: 46 °F (8 °C)
Wind Chill: 48 °F (9 °C)
Visibility: 7.00 mi.


here is my amazing Christmas weather! :P

Thanks for that Mrs. Flood! have a great Christmas!
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Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Merry Christmas from our family to yours
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Mrs. Floodman.
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Quoting hydrus:
When get this computer working correctly I will send you a dog picture that will blow your mind. My 37 inch tall 225 lb Irish Wolfhound digging a hole. It is awesome.


thats awesome!
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Merry Christmas weatherbro!
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Quoting tornadodude:


yep, definitely digging it!

When get this computer working correctly I will send you a dog picture that will blow your mind. My 37 inch tall 225 lb Irish Wolfhound digging a hole. It is awesome.
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Quoting watchingnva:
man, if some of the mid-long range models are even close...its going to get downright bitter in some areas next week and the week after....another possibly large nor'easter 12/30-1/4 time frame...guess we will see when it gets here...lol


Yep...Florida's really gonna get cold my friends. Indeed, records could be challenged(at times followed by very short interludes) for the entire east right through the New Year.

An Arctic squalline will traverse the northeast Monday followed by bitterly cold air! Setting the stage for an intense miller A type snowstorm for the mid-Atlantic and Northeast(this one might be more intense and thus extend further west). Yet any relatively mild overlaying air will be well offshore(which means everybody will get pure snow)!

So far, there are no indications(according to all weather modals) that it'll cut up to the Midwest/lakes as...

1. There's a negative NAO/AO
2. Greenland blocking won't permit it.
3. Non of the computer modals are forecasting a cut-off.
4.It'll remain positively tilted throughout it's trek.

So unless somethin' unexpected happens, the northeast mid-Atlantic(and even parts of the Southeast) are gonna get a huge New Years Eve snowstorm(especially the major cities)!

Oh and Merry Christmas to All!!!
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Quoting hydrus:
I dont know if you have heard the song (what happens tomorrow)Duran Duran, off the album Astronaut. Circa 2003 google and listen. I think you will dig it.


yep, definitely digging it!

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Just decided to check in and wish a very merry christmas to all!
Merry Christmas to you!
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Quoting aquak9:
rough day every day, hydrus. And that's ME, not m'dog!

happy holiday to you and yours as well.
I dont know if you have heard the song (what happens tomorrow)Duran Duran, off the album Astronaut. Circa 2003 google and listen. I think you will dig it.
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Just decided to check in and wish a very merry christmas to all!
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rough day every day, hydrus. And that's ME, not m'dog!

happy holiday to you and yours as well.
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merry Christmas to you too, Aussie...hope you and yours had a great day.
Merry Christmas aquake. Your doggie looks like it had a ruff day at the office.:)
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merry Christmas to you too, Aussie...hope you and yours had a great day.
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Quoting AussieStorm:
Merry Christmas everyone
merry christmas to all
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Quoting tornadodude:
Good evening all, hope you all are safe and warm this Christmas eve! I am not sure if I will be on the blog tomorrow or not, so I though I would take this time to wish all of you a Merry Christmas! (:
Merry Christmas Aussie and T-Dude...:)
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Merry Christmas everyone
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Good evening all, hope you all are safe and warm this Christmas eve! I am not sure if I will be on the blog tomorrow or not, so I though I would take this time to wish all of you a Merry Christmas! (:
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Quoting Patrap:
..it's A Wunderful Life,

Merry Christmas from New Orleans.



I knew it was just a matter of time before Jimmy Stewart made his appearance on the blog. Seasons Greetings. 1946..Director-Frank Capra:)
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..it's A Wunderful Life,

Merry Christmas from New Orleans.



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Merry Christmas to you all.
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955. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Joint Typhoon Warning Center

Tropical Disturbance Summary (1800z 24DEC)
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The area of convection (95S) located at 16.0S 81.4E or 735 NM southeast of Diego Garcia. Animated water vapor imagery indicates the system has maintained convective bands around a low level circulation center embedded in a dense cirrus overcast. Upper level analysis reveals the disturbance sits just south of the upper level ridge axis, which is providing low vertical wind shear and favorable equatorward venting. Outflow is also being enhanced on the southern side of the circulation by an extension of the subtropical jet.

Maximum sustained winds near the center is 15-20 knots with a minimum sea level pressure of 1006 hPa. The potential for this disturbance to form into a significant tropical cyclone within the next 24 hours is FAIR.
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FLC033-091-113-250130-
/O.NEW.KMOB.TO.W.0052.091225T0036Z-091225T0130Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
636 PM CST THU DEC 24 2009
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EXTREME SOUTHEASTERN ESCAMBIA COUNTY IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA...
SOUTHERN OKALOOSA COUNTY IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF FORT WALTON BEACH...
SOUTHEASTERN SANTA ROSA COUNTY IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF NAVARRE...

* UNTIL 730 PM CST

* AT 630 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO...CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
A TORNADO...30 MILES SOUTH OF NAVARRE...MOVING NORTH AT 40 MPH
TOWARDS THE BEACHES.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
NAVARRE BY 715 PM CST

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A
STURDY BUILDING...PREFERABLY IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR A ROOM SUCH AS
A CLOSET OR BATHROOM. IF POSSIBLE...GET UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER
PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY
AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 AM CST FRIDAY MORNING FOR
SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA.
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Our turn, moving pretty fast. Not too bad so far.



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952. Rodek
Folks,


I'm traveling to San Antonio in a couple of weeks and wanted to know if there was some sort of long range weather forecast that could give me a rough idea as to what the weather may be like. Thank you in advance!
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Have I ever mentioned that I hate snow? *sigh* From local Omaha, NE TV weather forecast:

"Blizzard Warning until Saturday Morning. The combination of heavy snow and strong winds will create white out conditions through this time. Snow totals will range from 6 - 12 inches in Omaha with most areas closer to the 12". The best chance for 12"+ amounts will be just east of the Missouri River in Western Iowa, with lighter amounts to the west of town.

Tonight: Snow and blowing snow; windy. Low 12. Wind NNW 20-40.

Christmas Day: Snow and blowing snow; windy. High 18. Wind NW 20-40."
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Photos: New Orleans skyline draped with color after Christmas Eve storms
By David Grunfeld, The Times-Picayune
December 24, 2009, 6:02PM


DAVID GRUNFELD / THE TIMES-PICAYUNE The fast moving line of rain passed through New Orleans leaving the day and skyLine of the city with a rainbow Thursday, December 24, 2009. The anticipated nasty weather did not last long or cause any major flooding or downed power lines or trees.

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A Christmas Puzzle for the Kids
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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
536 PM CST THU DEC 24 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN ESCAMBIA COUNTY IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA...
SOUTHEASTERN BALDWIN COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 630 PM CST

* AT 535 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE
THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 3 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
ROMAR BEACH...OR ABOUT 28 MILES EAST OF DAUPHIN ISLAND...MOVING
NORTH AT 30 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MIFLIN BY 555 PM CST...
ELBERTA BY 600 PM CST...
ELSANOR BY 620 PM CST...

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A
STURDY BUILDING...PREFERABLY IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR A ROOM SUCH AS
A CLOSET OR BATHROOM. IF POSSIBLE...GET UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER
PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY
AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

TO REPORT ANY TORNADOES...FUNNEL CLOUDS...OR OTHER HAZARDOUS WEATHER
OBSERVATIONS TO YOUR NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...CALL TOLL FREE AT 1 8
7 7 6 3 3 6 7 7 2.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 AM CST FRIDAY MORNING FOR
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as I posted on a local blog:

gust to 50mph as the squall line came through here east of citronelle. some limbs down. VERY windy system, no major lightning and surprisingly the rainfall rates were not the tropical kind we usually get .. we had some small hail And I think that may be the culprit… Got a hail shaft instead of the usual tropical deluge. Also, a hailstone the size of a pea travelling 40 mph horizontally to the face HURTS. Just be careful out there. Wouldnt be surprised to hear of wrecks with the squall… sprang up out of nowhere .. 10 mph gusts ramped to 40+ in under 2 minutes
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Temps. have come down a little since yesterday. I guess cold front coming through sooner than expected. 10-day Lake Worth/West Palm, Fl. forecast:

Local Text Forecast for
Lake Worth, FL (33461)

Dec 24 Tonight
Partly cloudy with isolated thunderstorms possible. Warm. Low 73F. Winds SE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Dec 25 Tomorrow
Mixed clouds and sun with scattered thunderstorms. High 76F. Winds SSE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
Dec 25 Tomorrow night
Scattered thunderstorms in the evening, mainly cloudy late with a few showers. Low around 65F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
Dec 26 Saturday
Showers ending by midday. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the low 60s.
Dec 27 Sunday
Scattered showers. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the upper 50s.
Dec 28 Monday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 50s.
Dec 29 Tuesday
A few clouds. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 50s.
Dec 30 Wednesday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 60s.
Dec 31 Thursday
Isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 60s.
Jan 1 Friday
Cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the upper 50s.
Jan 2 Saturday
Occasional showers possible. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 50s.
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Location Time
(cst) Sky/Weather Temp.
(ºF) Dewpt.
(ºF) Humidity
(%) Wind
(mph) Pressure
(in)
Dallas / Fort Worth International Airport 15:53 Light Snow Fog/Mist and Windy 30 27 88 NW 29 G 36 29.65
Dallas Love Field 15:53 Light Snow Fog/Mist and Breezy 31 28 89 NW 24 G 36 29.67
Dallas Executive Airport 15:53 Light Snow Fog/Mist and Breezy 31 27 85 W 25 G 41 29.66
Dallas / Addison Airport 15:50 Blowing Snow 30 28 93 W 20 G 36 29.65
Grand Prairie Municipal Airport 15:50 Fog/Mist and Breezy 32 27 80 W 21 G 32 29.69
Collin County Regional Airport 15:53 Unknown Precip and Breezy 32 27 82 NW 21 G 35 29.62
Arlington Municipal Airport 15:53 Light Snow and Breezy 32 25 75 W 23 G 37 29.70
Denton Municipal Airport 15:53 Heavy Snow Freezing Fog and Breezy 28 26 92 NW 25 G 31 29.68
Fort Worth Alliance Airport 15:53 Snow Blowing Snow Freezing Fog 30 26 85 NW 20 G 29 29.69
Fort Worth, Meacham International Airport 15:53 Snow Freezing Fog and Windy 28 27 96 NW 29 G 36 29.69
Fort Worth, Naval Air Station 15:52 Snow Freezing Fog and Breezy 29 25 85 NW 25 G 39 29.77
Mineral Wells Airport 15:53 Snow Freezing Fog and Windy 27 24 89 NW 28 G 38 29.78
Terrell Municipal Airport 15:53 Light Snow Fog/Mist and Breezy 33 30 89 W 21 G 30 29.61
Gainesville Municipal Airport 16:10 Heavy Snow and Breezy 28 25 86 NW 22 G 33 29.68
Waco Regional Airport 15:51 Overcast and Windy 33 26 75 NW 29 G 39 29.76
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930 - +1

As for population control. I bet Mother Earth takes care of that for us. We probably won't be so lucky with the next pandemic. However this mild flu strain has shown we are not prepared. Yeah the vaccine is widely available now, but two months ago when the virus was wide spread, a middle aged healty adult could not get it. Our numbers would have been greatly thinned if it was more deadly, like in 1918. And if you think about, that has happened throughout man's history on earth.

I will get a H1N1 Vaccine next week - cause who knows how this bug may mutate!

Merry Xmas Everyone! Wishing you all much Comfort and Joy in the New Year!
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Quoting watchingnva:
man, if some of the mid-long range models are even close...its going to get downright bitter in some areas next week and the week after....another possibly large nor'easter 12/30-1/4 time frame...guess we will see when it gets here...lol


That is definately a real possibility. Our Area Forecast Discussion (in Dallas-Ft Worth, TX)is calling for a Wintery Mix on TU 12-29-09. And for them to mention that, there pretty certain the NAM/GFS models are correct.
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Sun, moon trigger San Andreas tremors: study
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Dallas-Ft Worth International AP
2:53PM CST
Light Snow Fog/Mist and Windy

32 F
(0 C) Humidity: 85 %
Wind Speed: NW 28 G 38 MPH
Barometer: 29.61" (1002.7 mb)
Dewpoint: 28 F (-2 C)
Wind Chill: 18 F (-8 C)
Visibility: 0.75 mi

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man, if some of the mid-long range models are even close...its going to get downright bitter in some areas next week and the week after....another possibly large nor'easter 12/30-1/4 time frame...guess we will see when it gets here...lol
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