The uncertain legacy of Copenhagen

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:39 PM GMT on December 22, 2009

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The Copenhagen (COP15) climate summit is over, and leaves an uncertain legacy. What was accomplished in Copenhagen was far outweighed by what was not accomplished. While the final Copenhagen Accord affirmed that we must hold the warming of our planet below 2°C above pre-industrial levels by 2100 to avert dangerous climate change, no timetable for accomplishing that goal was specified. The promises made by the various nations at the summit would likely lead to a 3.9°C warming of the planet, according to an analysis by MIT's Sustainability Institute. Copenhagen did demonstrate that the hype preceding the talks was not undeserved--the stakes involved are huge, and we have an epic political battle on our hands that will afford high drama in 2010. Probably the best summary of the political battle at Copenhagen was posted by author Mark Lynas on the UK Guardian's web site. The title of the article was, "How do I know China wrecked the Copenhagen deal? I was in the room".

The leaders for greenhouse gas reductions
While the Copenhagen Summit made it clear that the coming battle will feature the U.S. and China, the voices of two tiny island nations--Tuvalu and The Maldives--will be important as well. When ranked by percentage of population located near the coast at an elevation of ten meters or less, the top five spots are held by small island nations with more than 90% of their population in this Low Elevation Coastal Zone--the Maldives, Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Cayman Islands, and Turks and Caicos Islands (McGranahan et al., 2007). The very existence of these island nations are threatened by sea level rise due to climate change. The leaders of Tuvalu and The Maldives brought considerable attention to their plight at the Copenhagen conference, and President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, in particular, has made his tiny country a force to be reckoned with in the coming battle.


Figure 1. President Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldives, Vice President Dr Mohamed Waheed and 11 cabinet ministers donned scuba gear and submerged 4 meters below the surface of sea to hold the world's first underwater cabinet meeting on October 17, 2009, in order to dramatize the threat sea level rise poses to their country.

The leaders against greenhouse gas reductions
Canada has joined Saudi Arabia as a leading voice against efforts to control emissions of greenhouse gases. According to The Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), which is published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe, Canada ranks second to last in climate policy and in overall efforts to tackle climate change, among the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. Canada's national statement at COP15 featured no commitments of money or targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and Canada also lobbied to change the "base" year from when emission reductions should be computed from 1990 to 2006. Croatia was the only other country to support Canada's position. The notorious political pranksters The Yes Men dramatized Canada's position by issuing a phony press release during COP15 claiming that Canada had come to its senses and was now going to work toward a 40 per cent cut in greenhouse gas emissions, the type of cut scientists say is necessary if we are to avoid dangerous warming of more than 2°C over pre-industrial levels. Canadian reporters immediately recognized the news release as a hoax. Canadian politics is heavily dominated by the fossil fuel industry, and Canadian reporters immediately saw the impossibility of the Canadian government performing an about-face on climate policy.


Figure 2. The top ten and bottom ten performing countries on the Climate Change Performance Index (CCPI), published annually by Germanwatch and CAN-Europe to rank the efforts to combat climate change of the 57 industrialized countries and emerging economies that together account for more than 90 per cent of global energy-related CO2 emissions. The ranking system factors in three scores: the emissions level (CO2 per primary energy unit, primary energy unit per GDP, and primary energy unit per capita); the emissions trend (whether emissions are rising or falling), and a subjective rating of the nation's national and international climate policy. Tall bars indicate a higher ranking, and thin bars represent a poor ranking. None of the 57 countries were doing enough to keep global warming below 2°C, so the top three spots on the list were left blank. Image credit: Germanwatch.org.

Comparison with the battle over CFC regulations and the ozone hole
On June 28, 1974, Sherry Rowland and Mario Molina, chemists at the University of California, Irvine, published the first scientific paper warning that human-generated chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) could cause serious harm to Earth's protective ozone layer (Molina and Rowland, 1974). They calculated that if CFC production continued to increase at the going rate of 10%/year until 1990, then remain steady, CFCs would cause a global 5 to 7 percent ozone loss by 1995 and 30 - 50% loss by 2050.

They warned that the loss of ozone would significantly increase the amount of skin-damaging ultraviolet UV-B light reaching the surface, greatly increasing skin cancer and cataracts. The loss of stratospheric ozone could also significantly cool the stratosphere, potentially causing destructive climate change. Although no stratospheric ozone loss had been observed yet, CFCs should be banned, they said. A huge international political battle ensued, one that eerily echoes many of the same themes as the battle over global warming. In a 1984 interview in The New Yorker, Dr. Rowland concluded, "Nothing will be done about this problem until there is further evidence that a significant loss of ozone has occurred. Unfortunately, this means that if there is a disaster in the making in the stratosphere we are probably not going to avoid it." These prophetic words were proved true the very next year with the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole. Speedy action to save the planet from potentially disastrous loss of the ozone layer was realized with the swift implementation of the Montreal Protocol two years later, though.

As was the case with the battle over the CFCs and the ozone layer, I expect it will take a obvious imminent climate change disaster to motivate governments to take strong action. I believed in September 2007 that such an event had occurred, when the Arctic ice cap lost more than half of its area, compared to levels observed in the early 1950s. I was astounded at the nonchalance the event earned in the press and among politicians. But, in hindsight I should not have been surprised, since the stakes are very much higher than the battle to ban CFCs--now we are talking about the fossil fuel industry, the very basis for our modern industrialized society. A very big, very obvious disaster in the making will probably be needed to motivate strong enough action to make a major difference in CO2 emissions. Our climate is certainly capable of generating such an event in the coming decade. Unfortunately, if we wait until a disaster is obviously imminent, we will have far less time to prevent a climate disaster than we had for the ozone depletion crisis. The lifetime of CFCs in the atmosphere is 50 - 140 years, but a substantial portion of the CO2 put in the air stays for thousands of years. According to the 2007 IPCC report, "About 50% of a CO2 increase will be removed from the atmosphere within 30 years, and a further 30% will be removed within a few centuries. The remaining 20% may stay in the atmosphere for many thousands of years."

References
McGranahan, G., D. Balk, and B. Anderson, 2007, "The rising tide: assessing the risks of climate change and human settlements in low elevation coastal zones", Environment & Urbanization, 19(1), 17-37.

Molina, M.J., and F.S. Rowland, "Stratospheric Sink for Chlorofluoromethanes: Chlorine Atom-Catalyzed Destruction of Ozone", Nature 249, 810-812, 1974.

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1088. aquak9
Probably a damned fruitcake tree...
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don't forget...Jesse Ventura's up here in the tree with us...
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Another denialist.. Press and JB sitting in a Tree...
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I'm pretty sure the preservatives in the fruitcake kill the alcohol...
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Quoting Bordonaro:


Maybe that is a sign that the next Nor'Easter will be a real doozy :0)
I have been trying to study the patterns of the exposed fruits for clues (safely contained under lab quality plastic enclosure) Although I keep getting dizzy.

Press you should go read the header in Aqua's blog.
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1083. aquak9
ya'll know I been sober over two years...and the maraschino cherries? I'm DEATHLY allergic to them.

This gift is going in the record books.
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Quoting aquak9:
I was given a fruitcake for Christmas...if that's not a sign of impending doom, I don't know what is...



soak it overnight in cheap bourbon...then eat it...but don't drive...
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Quoting aquak9:
I was given a fruitcake for Christmas...if that's not a sign of impending doom, I don't know what is...


Maybe that is a sign that the next Nor'Easter will be a real doozy :0)
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1079. aquak9
I was given a fruitcake for Christmas...if that's not a sign of impending doom, I don't know what is...
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Pat, Flood, Lady Flood...let's stay on top of this...
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...sorry...but Al Gore trumps Jesse Ventura by any imaginable measure...IQ, education, experience, intelligence, access to credible resources...
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Quoting presslord:
Bastardi has zero academic cedentials...and I'd be surprised if Ventura's IQ breaks into double digits....his emergence as their leader should begin fairly quickly to marginalize the conspiracy theortists...


Certainly Ventura doesn’t bring anything to the AGW skeptic side of the debated, but that’s more than offset by Al Gore on the AGW "the science is settled" side of the debate. The science is far from settled and there’s growing evidence that radiative forcing by CO2 is offset by the shifting emissivity effect; the two producing negative feedback to each other. That would mean the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2, which explains how CO2 could be at ten times today’s concentration in the past without destroying the ecosystem. In fact, the ecosystem was far more productive.

So what causes climate change? Henrik Svensmark has a theory that when combined with the recently discovered shifting emissivity effect explains all the data better than the current CO2 centric theory. You can no longer say skeptics are ignoring the data, but rather they have a better explanation for it.
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Merry Christmas to everyone - hope that everyone has shared a wonderful holiday with family friends. Nice to be a part of the community here - and look forward to the coming year to share again.

Zoo
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1074. Patrap
re: 1067

Well,I call um like I see um here,..always have,always will.

JB is a Hypester of the worst Kind,..
No room for that in any forecaster.

Also..if we didnt see his BS here,well..we wouldnt be having a tit for tat as well.

And if JB had some evidence to back up his absurdities,I'd give him some credit for that.
But alas,he has none.


He should study Australians woes last 2 Summers,..that alone is cause for many a validation of whats occurring.
Let alone the Artic woes.

And like I asked earlier,..where does all the man made pollutants go?

Seems most who deny the changes and warming skip that relevant question.

One day JB will get his East Coast Cat-5.

The odds are in his favor there,as the MDR warms,and the N.Atlantic cools,..the cyclonic Systems will only get Bigger and stronger.

I for one,..dont look forward to it,..as JB does.



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WASHINGTON – U.S. officials say a Northwest Airlines passenger from Nigeria said he was acting on behalf of al-Qaida when he tried to blow up a flight Friday as it landed in Detroit.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., identified the suspect as Abdul Mudallad, a Nigerian. King said the flight began in Nigeria and went through Amsterdam en route to Detroit.

One of the U.S. intelligence officials said the explosive device was a mix of powder and liquid. It failed when the passenger tried to detonate it.

The passenger was being questioned Friday evening.

Both of the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

The motive of the Christmas Day attack was not immediately clear.
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What an awful situation, an attempted Christmas Day bombing. HOW did that individual get an explosive device on an aircraft in the first place?
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More information and Corrections:

AP sources: Passenger tried to blow up airliner
Associated Press Writer Larry Margasak And Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer 5 mins ago

WASHINGTON %u2013 A Northwest Airlines passenger landing in Detroit on Friday tried to blow up the flight but the explosive device failed, two U.S. national security officials said.

The passenger, who was traveling on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam, was not identified. He was being questioned Friday evening, according to one of the officials, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

The motive of the Christmas Day attack was not immediately clear.

"He appears to have had some kind of incendiary device he tried to ignite," said one of the U.S. officials.

Authorities initially believed the passenger had set off firecrackers that caused some minor injuries.

Delta Air Lines spokeswoman Susan Elliott said the passenger was subdued immediately. She had no details on the injuries. Delta and Northwest have merged.

One passenger from the flight was taken to the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, hospital spokeswoman Tracy Justice said. She didn't know the person's condition, or whether the person was a man or woman. She referred all inquiries to the FBI.

An FBI spokeswoman in Detroit said the incident is being investigated. It came just as the flight, an Airbus 330 carrying 278 passengers, was arriving in Detroit from Amsterdam.

Passenger Syed Jafri, a U.S. citizen who had flown from the United Arab Emirates, said the incident occurred during the plane's descent. Jafri said he was seated three rows behind the passenger and said he saw a glow, and noticed a smoke smell. Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him."

"Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," he said.

Rich Griffith, a passenger from Pontiac, said he was seated too far in the back to see what had happened. But he said he didn't mind being detained on the plane for several hours. "It's frustrating if you don't want to keep your country safe," he said. "We can't have what's going on everywhere else happening here."

President Barack Obama was notified of the incident and discussed it with security officials, the White House said. It said he is monitoring the situation and receiving regular updates from his vacation spot in Hawaii.

J.P. Karas, 55, of Wyandotte, Mich., said he was driving down a road near the airport and saw a Delta jet at the end of the runway, surrounded by police cars, an ambulance, a bus and some TV trucks.

"I don't ever recall seeing a plane on that runway ever before and I pass by there frequently," he said.

Karas said it was difficult to tell what was going on, but it looked like the front wheel was off the runway.

The Homeland Security Department said passengers may see additional screening measures on domestic and international flights because of the incident.

"We encourage those with future travel plans to stay in touch with their airline and to visit http://www.tsa.gov for updates," the department said.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has been briefed on the incident and is closely monitoring the situation.

The department encouraged travelers to be observant and aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious behavior to law enforcement officials.
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Jakes reported from Baghdad, Iraq. Randi Berris in West Bloomfield, Mich., and Shelley Adler in Washington contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS UPDATES with second official confirming planned attack, Obama notified. corrects that flight was Northwest Airlines, sted Delta.; RESTORES pvs material.)
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First Person: A Man and his pet reindeer
Thu Dec 24, 4:04AM PT - AP 1:21 | 103143 views

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Albert Whitehead is something of an institution in Anchorage, Alaska, thanks to Star, his pet reindeer. The animal is often seen on walks around the city, stopping for snapshots and adoring kids. (Dec. 24)
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From JB.

Remember the debate here is not one of doubt, its one where one side claims there is no doubt. Dont let that original battle-line change with some of the re-tooling of the argument that is going on.


I agree with his statement.


I have been posting his colums regardless of the content for a while. Food for thought.
I admire the guy but thats just me. Ya'll wanna flame him, have at it.

Merry Christmas!
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This is much different from earlier story that said a passenger set of firecrackers --

AP source: Passenger tried to blow up airliner
By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer 19 mins ago

A senior U.S. counterterror official says a passenger aboard a Delta Air Lines flight in Detroit was planning to blow up the plane but the explosive device failed.

The official said the passenger was being questioned Friday evening. It was not immediately clear why the passenger wanted to attack the flight that was arriving from Amsterdam.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

Authorities initially believed the passenger had set off firecrackers that caused some minor injuries.

A Delta spokeswoman said the passenger was immediately subdued.

She had no details on the injuries.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information.
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Quoting Patrap:
JB isnt a climatologist.

He's a met with a agenda,..propped up by folks who havent a clue as to what's occurring Globally.

He's also arrogant and pompous,...and his statement today has no merit,nor base in fact either.

He speak's with an air of "absolute"..and if a skeptic is doing that,than he's not a skeptic,..he's a fool.

Words from a Bodybuilder dont sway any of the data,..nor physical changes that are occurring over the Globe.

Merry Xmas JB.

The wunderground is a community,..not a stage show.

And he wonders why the Networks,cable or reg TV dont carry Him anymore,..esp during the Hurricane season?

Well,because of his"Hype" and arrogance.








Come on Patrap. I try to refrain from making any comments about the climate since it seems most only believe what slaps them in the face. Any forecaster worth his salt has more knowledge about climate than 99% of the AGW crowd. Climatological data sets form the basis for the forecasts used daily by meteorologist who are after all our experts in atmospheric science. The two disciplines are deeply intertwined and knowledge of one is required to have an understanding of the other.
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Merry Christmas to all. We are back home in still slightly rainy but soon to be snowy (we hope)SWMich. We spent Christmas Eve with our son & family on the eastern side of the state. Celebrated Christmas Eve and enjoyed watching Festivus last night. Left to return home in heavy rain this morning. Have talked with Little Rock daughter, who has been spared any consequences (so far) of the torrential rains and flooding there, and with Eureka, CA daughter, who has been experiencing pretty typical NW coastal Calif. weather. Our 16-yr-old grandson is leaving tomorrow for snowboarding on Shasta. We hope all of you are "weathering" this Christmas season as well as our family is.
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Bastardi has zero academic cedentials...and I'd be surprised if Ventura's IQ breaks into double digits....his emergence as their leader should begin fairly quickly to marginalize the conspiracy theortists...
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Quoting Orcasystems:
SWMBO got me a GPS for Christmas :)
Now when she tells me where to go... I will be able to find it :)



Is that one of those that gets you there fast but triples the return trip? ;)
Merry Christmas Orca and SWMBO
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1063. Patrap
JB isnt even quotable..

And anyone who holds a religion up as a Banner for their side of any argument isnt either.

Not many squirrels or deer riding around in SUV's or digging for coal and burning it 24/7/365.

Just where does all this CO2,methane and other man caused pollutant's go anyway ?

JB or anyone care to give that reality a shot?

Ferris?

...Bueller?
















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Bastardi , like the leader of the Flat Earth Movement Jesse Ventura, are media personalities and they and their shills at Fox News, are profiting nicely from denialism...ironic...as that seems to be the main criticism of Al Gore...but I suppose hypocrisy goes right along with it...the intellectual bankruptcy of this crowd is becoming more evident by the day...the emergence of Ventura as their mouthpiece is a pretty telling development...
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1061. h0ff13
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Joe Bastardi this afternoon.

FRIDAY 3:30 PM

THEY WILL HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES


Elevating any person, or model, to something that you put blind faith in the face of the majesty that is the earth, and all that surrounds it,has a word.

Foolishness

You got that right. The arrogance and self agrandizement of mankind never ends. Merry Christmas!
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Hi and Merry Christmas again all! If anyone has contact info for WU blogger catastropheadjuster, please get it to me...Thanks!
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SWMBO got me a GPS for Christmas :)
Now when she tells me where to go... I will be able to find it :)



AOI

AOI

AOI

AOI

Humor in Comments
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1058. Patrap
JB isnt a climatologist.

He's a met with a agenda,..propped up by folks who havent a clue as to what's occurring Globally.

He's also arrogant and pompous,...and his statement today has no merit,nor base in fact either.

He speak's with an air of "absolute"..and if a skeptic is doing that,than he's not a skeptic,..he's a fool.

Words from a Bodybuilder dont sway any of the data,..nor physical changes that are occurring over the Globe.

Merry Xmas JB.

The wunderground is a community,..not a stage show.

And he wonders why the Networks,cable or reg TV dont carry Him anymore,..esp during the Hurricane season?

Well,because of his"Hype" and arrogance.






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Joe Bastardi this afternoon.

FRIDAY 3:30 PM

THEY WILL HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES


What is facing the major population centers of the northern hemisphere is unlike anything that we have seen since the global warming debate got to the absurd level it is now, which essentially has been there is no doubt about all this. For cold of a variety not seen in over 25 years in a large scale is about to engulf the major energy consuming areas of the northern Hemisphere. The first 15 days of the opening of the New Year will be the coldest, population weighted, north of 30 north world wide in over 25 years in my opinion.


I have to marvel at the irony of all this, and the fact that such stinging cold, and for too many people, lethal, is a a product of a world that has simply bought into those that sought to take advantage of them to advance their own agenda. Fortunately , cooler minds ( weather patterns) are going to prevail in time to force people to wake up to the idea that this is not a done deal, and far from it, as is my opinion, ICE not fire may be the bigger worry for causing hardship on the planets life by 2030.

They will have no one to blame but themselves, as they built the road that will ride their idea to its death, one that may not deserve to die, but will.

That idea, that PERHAPS green house gasses due have something to do with the planets thermostat deserves a seat at the table in my opinion, but not the head of the table, and certainly not something that this, or any government, should base policy on in the shorter terms ( multi decade) But just as climate gate woke some up to what some of us already knew, now the weather is piling on, Remember the debate here is not one of doubt, its one where one side claims there is no doubt. Dont let that original battle-line change with some of the re-tooling of the argument that is going on.

And at this time of the Holiday, when a large segment of the population expresses a reach beyond their grasp as to the birth of a child that represents the goodness of a creator they believe in ( and yes you can count me in), perhaps the weather so far this winter, and the weather that is coming will wake people up to the fact that we dont control what we did not create. Elevating any person, or model, to something that you put blind faith in the face of the majesty that is the earth, and all that surrounds it,has a word.

Foolishness
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Merry Christmas to all.. :)
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Merry Christmas All,
The Carolina Coast is feeling the slipstream from Santa's Sleigh !!!!

Frying Pan Tower
NDBC - Station 41013 - Frying Pan Shoals, NC Buoy Observations
Station 41013 - Frying Pan Shoals, NC Buoy
December 25, 2009 3:50 pm EST
Location: 33.436N 77.743W
Wind Direction: SSE (150°)
Wind Speed: 33.0 knots
Wind Gust: 38.9 knots
Significant Wave Height: 15.4 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 9 sec
Average Period: 7.2 sec
Mean Wave Direction: SSE (151°)
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.80 in (1009.3 mb)
Pressure Tendency: -0.07 in (-2.5 mb)
Air Temperature: 69.8°F (21.0°C)
Dew Point: 63.1°F (17.3°C)
Water Temperature: 70.5°F (21.4°C)

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Merry Christmas friends! Hope you and yours have a happy and blessed day.
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Merry Christmas Everyone.
No timetable was what the US wanted.
No firm committments until we pass legislation in the US; I think it's HR2454. Also known as Markley Waxman?!
Anyway, taking a quick break from the festivities to wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well as a Happy Hannukkha and Best Wishes for All in the New Year.
I think legacy too strong a word. Copenhagen Conference was predictably disappointing.

Time to check the turkey!
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merry christmas fellow wunderbloggers!!!!only 6 months until TC season starts,lol...
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Quoting AstroHurricane001:


That's a rather high atmospheric pressure! Are you still having a White Christmas after the snow?


For Dallas-Ft Worth, TX our "normal" range of barometric pressure is ususally 29.6" to 30.2". We ocassionally have our barometric pressure fall down to 29.20" up to 30.70".

The snow was nice, by about Noon most of the snow has melted. Before the storm, it was 76F, the ground is very warm!
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Quoting Bordonaro:
And for Christmas my kiddos bought me a "Weather Channel, Model 1910 Professional Weather Station" :o)! Anenometer installation was "scary" on a highly sloped roof. But it's lots of fun sitting on a 30' roof peak.

At 1:30PM

Mostly Sunny
Temp: 43F
Rel Hum: 38%
Dew Point: 20F
Winds: NW at 2 MPH (after yesterday, it nice)
Bar: 30.05" and steady

Merry Christmas everybody :0)!


That's a rather high atmospheric pressure! Are you still having a White Christmas after the snow?
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And for Christmas my kiddos bought me a "Weather Channel, Model 1910 Professional Weather Station" :o)! Anenometer installation was "scary" on a highly sloped roof. But it's lots of fun sitting on a 30' roof peak.

At 1:30PM

Mostly Sunny
Temp: 43F
Rel Hum: 38%
Dew Point: 20F
Winds: NW at 2 MPH (after yesterday, it nice)
Bar: 30.05" and steady

Merry Christmas everybody :0)!
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1048. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
Quoting WxLogic:
Quick drive by!!! Merry Christmas...


DUCK!!!

LOL merry christmas
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Quoting tornadodude:


Again, I'm seeing that classic Midwest superstorm pattern with the storms every week. A cold-front like feature extends into the Gulf before passing into Mexico and the East Pacific through the ICTZ.
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1046. Patrap
Forty-one years ago, on Dec. 24, 1968, astronauts on Apollo 8, having made the first human passage around the moon, were stunned to notice an "Earth Rise." In 2007, an HD camera aboard Japan's Kaguya satellite videotaped earth 'rising' and 'setting.' Set to music by Peter Rundquist, the images bring home the lonely, extraordinary nature of this "pale blue dot."


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Merry Christmas Everyone!!
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1041. WxLogic
Quick drive by!!! Merry Christmas...
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