Why Southeast Greenland's glaciers have slown down since 2005

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:57 PM GMT on December 15, 2009

Share this Blog
4
+

I'm in San Francisco for the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union, the world's largest gathering of climate scientists. I saw ten or so great talks yesterday (and five really boring ones!) Here's a summary of the the most interesting talk I heard yesterday:

If you plan on owning ocean front property after the year 2050, you should pay close attention to the glaciers In Greenland. Greenland holds enough ice to raise global sea level by over 20 feet (6.5 meters), should its ice cap completely disintegrate--though such an event would likely take centuries to occur. Still, should the climate warm 2°C or more this century, partial melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet could readily raise global sea level by a meter or more by 2100. That's why scientists reacted with concern during 2003 - 2005, when all of the glaciers in southeastern Greenland accelerated in synchrony to speeds 30% to 210% faster than they had flowed in 1996. As they sped up, the glaciers began dumping huge amounts of ice into the ocean off the coast of southeast Greenland, more than doubling Greenland's contribution to global sea rise, to .57 mm/year. Would the glaciers keep accelerating, bringing about an increasing disintegration of the Greenland Ice Sheet? Nobody knew, since computer models of glacial dynamics were (and still are) in a primitive state.


Figure 1. Helheim Glacier in southeast Greenland, in three images captured in 2004, 2005, and 2006. The glacier accelerated significantly in 2005, and the face of the glacier retreated 5 km inland (middle frame) compared to 2004. However, by the summer of 2006, the acceleration ceased, the the glacier returned back to its 2004 position. Image credit: Ian Howat, University of Washington.

Well, it turned out that 2005 was the peak of the glacial acceleration event. The glaciers in southeast Greenland have returned to where they were eight or nine years ago--still causing a net loss of mass that is raising global sea level, but not as fast as in 2003 - 2005. In a talk titled, "Ocean regulation of glacier dynamics in south-east Greenland and implication for ice sheet mass changes", Tavi Murray and colleagues from the UK's Swansea University presented a plausible theory for why this strange synchronous speed-up and slow-down occurred. Using satellite, aircraft, and surface observations, the researchers found that air temperatures in the region did not vary much over 2003 - 2005 (Figure 2). Thus, a major increase in temperature could be ruled out as the cause of the glacier surge. However, study of the ocean temperatures near the coast revealed strong clues that ocean currents were responsible for the surge.

Figure 2. Ocean currents off the east coast of Greenland feature the cold East Greenland Coastal Current flowing north to south (white arrows) and the warm Irminger Current flowing south to north (red arrows). Image credit: Arctic Climate Impact Assessment.

Ordinarily, the southeast coast of Greenland features a cold water current flowing north to south, called the East Greenland Coastal Current (EGCC). Much of the cold water for this current is supplied by melting of the 14 glaciers in southeast Greenland that empty into the sea (two of these glaciers, Kangerdlugssuaq and Helheim, represent 35% of east Greenland's total glacial discharge). A few hundred kilometers offshore, a warm water current called the Irminger Current flows the opposite direction, bringing warm water from the North Atlantic northward. In 2003, it happened that weather conditions over Greenland brought an unusually low amount of run-off of precipitation. With little new mass pushing the glaciers seaward, the glaciers responded by greatly reducing the amount of ice they dumped into the ocean by the shore. As a result, the East Greenland Coastal Current slowed down and warmed, which allowed the warm Irminger Current to advance towards the coast, warming the coastal waters even more. All that warm water near the coast began melting the glaciers where they reached the sea, causing the glaciers all along the southeast coast of Greenland to accelerate and rapidly thin between 2003 - 2005. By 2006, the thinning glaciers had dumped so much new ice into the ocean near the coast that the waters cooled and the East Greenland Coastal Current re-established itself. This cooled the glaciers at their marine termination points and slowed down the glacial surge, putting the glaciers back where they had been before 2003. This is a classic example of a negative feedback process--a change in weather conditions which generates a response, but the response creates conditions that tend to dampen the response.


Figure 3. Average temperatures for the only station in southeast Greenland with a century-long temperature record, Angmagssalik (called Ammassalik on the map in Figure 2). Temperatures in southeast Greenland during the 1930s and 1940s were similar to today's temperatures, suggesting that glacial surges like we witnessed in 2005 may have also occurred in the 1930s and 1940s, before we had monitoring capability. Image credit: NASA Goddard.

Commentary
As I commented in my previous post, Arctic sea ice loss appears to have created a new atmospheric circulation pattern that brings more warm air in the Arctic, creating a positive feedback loop that causes even more sea ice loss. This positive feedback loop was a bad news surprise that our climate models did not predict. Now we have evidence of a good news surprise that no model predicted--a negative feedback loop that acts to keep the southeast portion of Greenland's Ice Sheet from runaway glacial acceleration. We can expect many more surprises--good and bad--over the coming decades, as our climate responds to the huge shove human activities are giving it.

Ricky Rood in Copenhagen
Our Climate Change expert, Dr. Ricky Rood, is in Copenhagen for the COP15 climate change treaty negotiations. His latest post, called Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? makes for very interesting reading on how the U.S. is "wasting its intellect and time on disruptions designed to play to people at home".

Next post
I'll have another post from the AGU meeting Thursday or Friday this week.

Jeff Masters

Reader Comments

Comments will take a few seconds to appear.

Post Your Comments

Please sign in to post comments.

or Join

Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.

Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted

Viewing: 63 - 13

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27Blog Index

ROFLMAO...But the adrenaline's pumping, isn't it? Unless your heart stopped cold! Real possibility, that...regrets and condolences to the families of...
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting jeffs713:

Welcome to El Nino?

From what I'm piecing together, the atmosphere's apparent habit of breaking off surface lows near the TX coast and moving them slowly ENE is fairly typical of a strong El Nino pattern.

Joy.
I heard there was school closuers in the area this morning so it sounds like it could be bad. Are all the pumps working, no water in homes?
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
(CNN) -- Philippines authorities Tuesday started evacuating about 50,000 people living around the island nation's most active volcano after it oozed fiery lava and belched clouds of ash.

A large-scale eruption was forecast as imminent.


Sheesh, what next for them?
December is now the wettest month on record, National Weather Service reports
By Ramon Antonio Vargas, The Times-Picayune
December 15, 2009, 8:43AM



December 2009 is now the wettest month on record, according to the National Weather Service.

Severe rainfalls Monday night and Tuesday morning helped make this December the wettest calendar month on record in metro New Orleans, according to the National Weather Service.

Precisely 21.2 inches of rain had fallen less than halfway into the month at Louis Armstrong International Airport, said Robert Ricks, the service's lead forecaster. That total is the most to ever fall in a single month in the New Orleans area since 1947, when the service started keeping records at the airport.

"It's pretty remarkable, since we accomplished it in just 14 days," Ricks said. "We have a lot more room for wetness to go before this month is over, too."

Meteorologists expect even more rain Tuesday, and a flash flood watch remains in effect for all of southeastern Louisiana until the afternoon.
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting Patrap:
Well..toss out the ol record from May 95 for a Monthly rainfall total.

MSY Airport west of NOLA..crashed thru that 15 hours ago,now were up over 23 plus inches for Dec 09,and adding to it every hour.

With 16 Days to go still.

Wowsa..

Welcome to El Nino?

From what I'm piecing together, the atmosphere's apparent habit of breaking off surface lows near the TX coast and moving them slowly ENE is fairly typical of a strong El Nino pattern.

Joy.
Member Since: August 3, 2008 Posts: 16 Comments: 5883
Shsssh AIM..Im not even awake yet..now I have to change..
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Who'll stop Awake aka AIM now that she's finally learned how to post an image? NOT THIS GUY, although his colleagues keep trying!

Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Well..toss out the ol record from May 95 for a Monthly rainfall total.

MSY Airport west of NOLA..crashed thru that 15 hours ago,now were up over 23 plus inches for Dec 09,and adding to it every hour.

With 16 Days to go still.

Wowsa..
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
1807. AwakeInMaryland 4:02 PM GMT on December 15, 2009

Quoting hcubed:


I've found it better if you ignore any stories that have "Gore" and "Global Warming" in them.

BTW, exactly what science background does Gore have?



Okay, I found this an interesting question, although I know many of us here are tired and bored silly by Gore bashers -- this seemed an honest inquiry. I feel like I kind of understand Gore as I majored in an area related to journalism (RTVF). When you're interested in everything, you MIGHT spread yourself too thin and have an uneven track record. However as a journalist you also have to absorb a lot of information FAST plus put it out there in an interesting, absorbing, and hopefully, attention-grabbing way. For that, our former VP deserves an A. As for the facts...that is still being determined, so I'm holding off...my GUESS is that in a decade we'll say "B". I understand that right now some of you are giving him failing grades...please stand by!

I found this yr. 2000 article from the Washington Post really interesting. Surprise, maybe -- they don't find him a geen-yus.

Gore's Grades Belie Image of Studiousness
His School Transcripts Are a Lot Like Bush's

By David Maraniss and Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, March 19, 2000; Page A01

Link

Excerpt:

When John C. Davis, a retired teacher and assistant headmaster at St. Albans, was recently shown his illustrious former pupil's college board achievement test scores, he inspected them closely with a magnifier and shook his head, chuckling quietly at the science results.

"Four eighty-eight! Terrible" Davis declared upon inspecting the future vice president's 488 score (out of a possible 800) in physics.

"Hmmmm. Chemistry. Five-nineteen. He didn't do too well in chemistry."

As Davis moved down the page, his magnifier settled on Gore's more promising achievement scores in other scholastic realms.

"English. Seven oh-five. Right at the top!"

"U.S. History. Seven oh-one. Not so bad."
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
..and I wonder..."Who'll,Stop the Rain"..


Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting Bonedog:
Bord the HPC discussion is from this upcoming weekend into Tuesday. The GFS is for 2 weeks from now.

The only model I have seen anyalising the way HPC is saying is the NoGaps =)

Hopefully this does verify and we get dumped on. Need a nice Nor'easter just in time for Christmas =)



Could make for a NASTY weekend in the FL Peninsula. NoGaps has it crossing as a deep cold core cyclone.
1828. AwakeInMaryland 4:28 PM GMT on December 15, 2009
Co-ol. New electric plug-in Toyota Prius hybrid model, available in 2 years.

full charge full tank of gas =
1400 Kilometers = 869.919669 Miles

Reuters
gmy.news.yahoo.com/vid/17138394
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
I see you all tried to lose me a full hour ago! Sob, I'm so hurt (as if that would stop me, lol)!
I didn't see a "new blog" post!

Blog punishment: I'm re-posting in full!

National Situation Update: Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Homeland Security Threat Level: YELLOW (ELEVATED).
Significant National Weather

Midwest
Frigid air in the northern Plains and upper Midwest will move eastward over the Great Lakes today. Today%u2019s highs will range from 0 to 20 degrees across the Plains, upper Midwest, and Great Lakes to the 20s and 30s over the middle Mississippi Valley and Ohio Valley. Wind chills may drop to -40 or less in the Dakotas and about 0 around the Chicago area. On Wednesday temperatures will rise over the southern and western Plains, middle Mississippi Valley and Ohio Valley bringing temperatures to highs in the upper 30s to mid-40s. Temperatures will remain cold on Wednesday in the upper Midwest and Great Lakes with highs in the teens and 20s and lake effect snow is possible over the Great Lakes.

Northeast
A weak storm will bring very light rain and snow this morning to parts of upstate New York and northern New England. Portions of central New York, southwest New York, and northwest Pennsylvania may see 6 to 12 inches of snow tonight through early Thursday. Snow showers will be likely later today through Wednesday in the mountains of West Virginia.

South
Most of the South will stay cloudy and foggy, with rain and thunderstorms. The Gulf Coast and southeast coast will see rain, some of it heavy, through tonight. Rainfall of 1 to 3 inches is forecast from Houston, Texas to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, as well as New Orleans, which has already seen 5 to 8 inches of rain this past weekend. Localized flooding is possible from southeastern Texas to coastal South Carolina. Tonight through Wednesday morning, the rain should start to end but will then move south into Florida and south Texas.

West
A very strong winter storm in the Pacific Northwest will continue through today. Heavy rain is likely across the northwest California coast, possibly bringing up to 1 to 3 inches of rain by tonight. Moderate amounts of rain are forecast along the coast northward through Washington. The mountains of northern California, eastern Oregon, and central Idaho will see heavy snow totaling 10 to 20 inches through today. The mountains of northern Idaho and western Montana will see lighter snow totaling 4 to 8 inches. Portions of the Cascades could see 1 to 2 feet of snow. By Wednesday, the rain and snow should taper off. (NOAA%u2019s National Weather Service, Various Media Sources)

NASA Launches New Satellite

Yesterday, NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, lifted off over the Pacific Ocean on its way to map the entire sky in infrared light. A Delta II rocket carrying the spacecraft launched at 6:09 a.m. PST (9:09 a.m. EST) from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.
WISE, will scan the entire sky in infrared light, picking up the glow of hundreds of millions of objects and producing millions of images. The mission will uncover objects never seen before, including the coolest stars, the universe's most luminous galaxies and some of the darkest near-Earth asteroids and comets. Thanks to next-generation technology, WISE's sensitivity is hundreds of times greater than its predecessor, the Infrared Astronomical Satellite, which operated in 1983.

The closest of WISE's finds will be near-Earth objects, both asteroids and comets, with orbits that come close to crossing Earth's path. The mission is expected to find hundreds of these bodies, and hundreds of thousands of additional asteroids in our solar system's main asteroid belt. By measuring the objects' infrared light, astronomers will get the first good estimate of the size distribution of the asteroid population. This information will tell us approximately how often Earth can expect an encounter with a potentially hazardous asteroid. WISE data will also reveal new information about the composition of near-Earth objects and asteroids -- are they fluffy like snow or hard like rocks, or both?
The next closest targets for WISE are dim stars called brown dwarfs. These Jupiter-like balls of gas form like stars but fail to gather up enough mass to ignite like stars. The objects are cool and faint, and nearly impossible to see in visible light. WISE should uncover about 1,000 in total, and will double or triple the number of star-like objects known within 25 light-years of Earth. (NASA)

Tropical Weather Outlook

Western Pacific
No activity threatening U.S. territories. (NOAA, HPC, National Hurricane Center, Central Pacific Hurricane Center and the Joint Typhoon Warning Center)
Earthquake Activity

No new activity (FEMA HQ)
Preliminary Damage Assessments

No new activity (FEMA HQ)
Disaster Declaration Activity

No new activity (FEMA HQ)

Last Modified: Tuesday, 15-Dec-2009 07:55:02 EST
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Bord the HPC discussion is from this upcoming weekend into Tuesday. The GFS is for 2 weeks from now.

The only model I have seen anyalising the way HPC is saying is the NoGaps =)

Hopefully this does verify and we get dumped on. Need a nice Nor'easter just in time for Christmas =)
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
and man the service was spectacular

Jerry....you can't feed me lines like that....I'm gonna get banned for sure!!!
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting Bonedog:
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!


from the HPC preliminary extended


IF A MORE WESTERN UPPER CENTER FORMS IN THE GREAT LAKES DUE TO BUILDING POSITIVE ANOMALIES IN CANADA...WHICH IS QUITE POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY...THAN THE LOW MOVES DIRECTLY UP THE EAST COAST BRINGING HEAVY SNOWS TO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES AND POSSIBLY BRINGS A MILD/EASTERLY MARITIME POLAR AIR MASS INTO MAINE...WHICH WOULD MODERATE TEMPERATURES NEXT MONDAY/TUESDAY. HOWEVER...IF THE ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS VERIFY...THE CYCLONE WOULD BE WHISKED WELL OFFSHORE THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND COASTS AND SOUTHEAST OF THE 40N 70W BENCHMARK WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MUCH LOWER SNOW TOTALS FOR THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES. THIS IDEA WOULD ALSO KEEP NEW ENGLAND COLD UNDER THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW. A COMPROMISE OF THE 00Z CANADIAN/00Z ECMWF SPLITS THE UNCERTAINTY HERE UNTIL THE MODELS AGREE ON THE EXPECTED UPPER PATTERN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST/ATLANTIC CANADA.



Looks as if the NoGaps will be correct.

Quoting Bonedog:
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!


from the HPC preliminary extended


IF A MORE WESTERN UPPER CENTER FORMS IN THE GREAT LAKES DUE TO BUILDING POSITIVE ANOMALIES IN CANADA...WHICH IS QUITE POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY...THAN THE LOW MOVES DIRECTLY UP THE EAST COAST BRINGING HEAVY SNOWS TO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES AND POSSIBLY BRINGS A MILD/EASTERLY MARITIME POLAR AIR MASS INTO MAINE...WHICH WOULD MODERATE TEMPERATURES NEXT MONDAY/TUESDAY. HOWEVER...IF THE ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS VERIFY...THE CYCLONE WOULD BE WHISKED WELL OFFSHORE THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND COASTS AND SOUTHEAST OF THE 40N 70W BENCHMARK WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MUCH LOWER SNOW TOTALS FOR THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES. THIS IDEA WOULD ALSO KEEP NEW ENGLAND COLD UNDER THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW. A COMPROMISE OF THE 00Z CANADIAN/00Z ECMWF SPLITS THE UNCERTAINTY HERE UNTIL THE MODELS AGREE ON THE EXPECTED UPPER PATTERN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST/ATLANTIC CANADA.



You mean THIS!!!12/29/09 Forecast 324HRS out!!


Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting Floodman:


Hopwdy, eyes! how have you been, man?
I have been well, was concerned about you though. Tried to email you! I spent some time up in Norfolk after the Nor'easter (Ida)
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting eyesontheweather:
Goood Day to ya Flood & Amy


Hopwdy, eyes! how have you been, man?
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9922
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!
LET IT SNOW!


from the HPC preliminary extended


IF A MORE WESTERN UPPER CENTER FORMS IN THE GREAT LAKES DUE TO BUILDING POSITIVE ANOMALIES IN CANADA...WHICH IS QUITE POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY...THAN THE LOW MOVES DIRECTLY UP THE EAST COAST BRINGING HEAVY SNOWS TO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES AND POSSIBLY BRINGS A MILD/EASTERLY MARITIME POLAR AIR MASS INTO MAINE...WHICH WOULD MODERATE TEMPERATURES NEXT MONDAY/TUESDAY. HOWEVER...IF THE ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS VERIFY...THE CYCLONE WOULD BE WHISKED WELL OFFSHORE THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND COASTS AND SOUTHEAST OF THE 40N 70W BENCHMARK WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MUCH LOWER SNOW TOTALS FOR THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES. THIS IDEA WOULD ALSO KEEP NEW ENGLAND COLD UNDER THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW. A COMPROMISE OF THE 00Z CANADIAN/00Z ECMWF SPLITS THE UNCERTAINTY HERE UNTIL THE MODELS AGREE ON THE EXPECTED UPPER PATTERN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST/ATLANTIC CANADA.
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting NRAamy:
hey eyes!

:)
Ocean front property in Arizona Huh?? That must be your "dry" sense of humor coming out! Or is this long term speculation?
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting NRAamy:
Jerry...I told tdude to send you an invite on Facebook....

:)


That's great!
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9922
Quoting atmoaggie:
So, what constitutes a normal amount of rainfall for NOLA from Dec 1 - 15? Just over 2 inches.



And what does the percent of normal look like right now for the same period? Better than 400% for most of the region, more than 600% for NOLA. And at the airport, in Kenner, it is actually close to 1000%!



It is insane, City Park is one giant lagoon.
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Good Morning everyone! Global Warming is such an interesting topic! Why does everyone want to argue?? Climate is varaiable anyway, it always is changing!! Look at the 50F temps in Moscow, Russia and the -51F temps in Canada. Patterns are always changing, doing strange an unusal things! That's why it called climate.

I take the "argument" of being a good steward! Use all resources wisely! IF we could just get business/industry on the same page!

May I ask, what good does it do to be rich, and there are no rainforests, no clean drinking water, no clean air to breathe? WHAT kind of life is that???????
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
HJ, I'm good, all things considered; I'm walking a couple of miles a day and my pain is getting better all the time. Looks like I got about the best back surgeon in my area and ended up in a surgery only hospital that's practically brand new; they have 8 overnight rooms for adults only and man the service was spetacular

So how have you been, man?
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9922
hey eyes!

:)
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
So, what constitutes a normal amount of rainfall for NOLA from Dec 1 - 15? Just over 2 inches.



And what does the percent of normal look like right now for the same period? Better than 400% for most of the region, more than 600% for NOLA. And at the airport, in Kenner, it is actually close to 1000%!

Member Since: August 16, 2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
Goood Day to ya Flood & Amy
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Thanks, Dr. M.

Seeing extra words in between those on the page, JF?
And, no, the ice doesn't lie. Neither do tree rings. Problem is, we think we can understand what it is saying, which works out okay sometimes.

...like a tourist in Paris, except that no one speaks ice core or tree ring.
Member Since: August 16, 2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
Have to wonder if the temp graph is raw data or "homonigized". How would we know?
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Joe Bastardi this morning.

TUESDAY 10 A.M.
BRRRR FROM BANFFFFF AND EDMONTON

Heck of a way to run a global warmup, eh?

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technology/Edmonton+shatters+cold+record/2336460 /story.html

Now this is NOT A REASON TO BELIEVE AN ICE AGE is coming, but when you start putting some of the outstanding cold events together... (Houston, two of December's earliest snows ever for instance) if you look, you can match warm for cold in the fight.

I notice no one is talking about how the snow in the Alps and western North America has been leading to increase snow packs, but melt a glacier someplace, and look out, it's front page news.

Ciao for now. ***
Member Since: July 25, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 568
Good morning and thanks for the information on Greenland.
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Ok folks, what the latest from GFS & ECMWF forecasts for the cold/snow for the S Plains and the SE US for 12-21 through 12-31-09??
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
As mentioned in today's and previous topics, Dr. Ricky Rood is in Coppenhagen. Dr. Rood is sharing his views over there as well as his emotional distress over here in light of recent unfortunate circumstance. However, I must push away from the notion that over 25% of the United States Senate who seek to open the books have their quest colored as an Alliance with Saudi Arabia.

*****From Rood's blog entry:
US Senators pursue an investigation of climate science based upon the stolen and published correspondence of a small clutch of prominent scientists. Here at the Conference of Parties (COP15) in Copenhagen the news says that we should anticipate a visit by Congressman Sensenbrenner to call for the end of “climate fascism.” This will place this US political tribe in solid alliance with, perhaps, Saudi Arabia. *****

It's time for Science to dispell alarm and speak with a single tongue. The truth is in there somewhere. I'm not believing anything until Sunshine prevails. NASA has "no right" not to honor a FOI request and they should have "no reason" either.

For anyone to claim that only a Climate Scientist can understand what's going on with the climate is indeed an elitist opinion.

Member Since: September 11, 2008 Posts: 9 Comments: 10091
Quoting NRAamy:
yep....epi...epi and I have become good friends....


Ugh. If it helps the pain then it's good, right? How long does it help for?
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2899
yep....epi...epi and I have become good friends....
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Jerry...I told tdude to send you an invite on Facebook....

:)
Member Since: Posts: Comments:
Quoting NRAamy:
Junky...I see needles in my future...



Kind of an interesting post, eh? saying you see needles in your future with the word "junky" in there. LOL! Are you talking another EPI?
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2899
Well, all I have to sayis that if the glacial melt continues as it appears to be doing now, by 2050 there will be some seriously dry areas that used to be farm land, and no, you will not want to live in the Rockies where the majority of the drinking and irrigation water is due to spring thaws and glacial runoff...won't be any glaciers left
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9922
It's 80 and HUMID here. Not much breeze either. A/C weather the last 3 days. Send us a cold front!
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2899
Junky...I see needles in my future...

Member Since: Posts: Comments:

Viewing: 63 - 13

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27Blog Index

Top of Page

About

Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.