2000s: hottest decade on record; dangerous blizzard pounds Midwest

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:33 PM GMT on December 09, 2009

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The end of the decade is upon us, and this decade was the warmest decade on record, according to NOAA and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). The decade of the 2000s was 0.17°C (0.31°F) warmer than the 1990s, according to NOAA. The "official" scientific assessments on climate change, the IPCC reports, have been predicting that Earth's temperature rise should average about 0.19°C per decade, due to human-caused global warming. Thus, the warming over the past decade is about 10% below predictions--well within the uncertainties that natural variation in the climate can bring. Of course, one can look at shorter time periods and say that no warming is occurring. The hottest year on record globally was 1998, according to the UK's HadCRUT3 data set, and was 2005, according to the data sets maintained by NASA and NOAA. It is apparent from the plot of global temperature anomalies (Figure 1) that the global temperature rise has flattened out since 2005. One can correctly say that global temperatures have not increased since 2005. However, climate is measured on time scales of decades, so it is incorrect to say that the climate has not warmed since 2005. It is meaningless to any statement about climate on any time scale less than ten years. Thirty years is better, since the atmosphere has natural multi-decadal oscillations, and the solar cycle of 11 years is also important. Global average temperature oscillates 0.1°C between the maximum and minimum of the solar cycle, and we are currently in an unusually long minimum.


Figure 1. Change in global surface temperature anomaly as computed by NOAA (NCDC Dataset), NASA (GISS data set) and combined Hadley Center and Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia (UK) (HadCRUT3 data set). Uncertainty in the HadCRUT3 data is shown in gray. Image credit: WMO.

Mass front-page climate change editorial published in 45 countries
An unprecedented joint editorial urging action on climate change appeared in 56 newspapers in 45 countries yesterday. Many of the papers carried the editorial on the front page. The editorial began: "Unless we combine to take decisive action, climate change will ravage our planet, and with it our prosperity and security. The dangers have been becoming apparent for a generation. Now the facts have started to speak: 11 of the past 14 years have been the warmest on record, the Arctic ice-cap is melting and last year's inflamed oil and food prices provide a foretaste of future havoc. In scientific journals the question is no longer whether humans are to blame, but how little time we have got left to limit the damage. Yet so far the world's response has been feeble and half-hearted.". According to Editor & Publisher, the editorial was published in 20 languages including Chinese, Arabic and Russian. The text was drafted by the UK newspaper, The Guardian, in conjunction with editors from more than 20 of the papers involved. A number of U.S. papers supported the project and agreed with everything in the editorial, but only one--the Miami Herald--was brave enough to publish it.

Posts on the hacked climate scientists' emails
If you haven't read my posts on the hacked email affair, my attitude on the matter can best be summed up by a highly amusing political cartoon by Houston Chronicle cartoonist Nick Anderson. While an investigation is needed into whether the scientific data involved was properly withheld from other scientists, there is nothing in the hacked emails that affects the validity of any of the published peer-reviewed science on climate change. "Climategate" is a manufactured scandal designed to take attention away from the scientific consensus that human-caused global warming is responsible for most of the observed warming in recent decades, and that this warming will increase dramatically in coming decades. My posts on the affair:

Don't shoot the messenger
Embattled UK climate scientist steps down
The Manufactured Doubt industry and the hacked email controversy
Is more CO2 beneficial for Earth's ecosystems?

Ricky Rood in Copenhagen
Our Climate Change expert, Dr. Ricky Rood, is in Copenhagen for the COP15 climate change summit. Check out his blog over the next two weeks to hear an insider's view of what's going on.

Major winter storm blasts the Plains and Western U.S.
It's a bad day to be in Iowa, unless you happen to be a polar bear. I'll back up that startling claim with some hard data: at 4:35 am CST, Carroll, Iowa reported heavy snow, sustained winds of 38 mph, gusting to 48, visibility 350 yards, a temperature of 9°F, and a windchill of -17°F. The mighty storm responsible was centered over Lake Michigan this morning, and is bringing blizzard conditions to Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern Michigan. The storm has brought very high winds to large portion of the country. Sustained winds of 53 mph, gusting to 77 mph were reported in Ruidiso, New Mexico yesterday afternoon, and hurricane-force wind gusts were reported in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas yesterday. A peak gust of 105 mph was reported in Texas' Guadeloupe Mountains. Heavy rain from the storm has also brought localized flooding to California, Arizona, and Louisiana.

Some snow amounts from the storm so far (with distances in miles from the city included, where appropriate):

...ARIZONA...
FLAGSTAFF 7.8 SSW 30.4
JACOB LAKE 24.0
WILLIAMS 0.4 SW 20.0
GRAND CANYON SOUTH RIM 18.0

...CALIFORNIA...
KIRKWOOD SKI AREA 48.0
ALPINE MEADOWS 45.0
SODA SPRINGS 40.0
KINGVALE 1.3 WSW 37.0
NORTHSTAR 36.0
CISCO 5 ENE 35.0
SOUTH LAKE TAHOE 8 SSW 31.0
MAMMOTH LAKES 14.0

...COLORADO...
PAGOSA SPRINGS 9.1 NNW 33.0
CARBONDALE 8.2 S 24.8
CRESTED BUTTE 6.2 N 24.5
DURANGO 24.0
BAYFIELD 7 N 23.5
DOLORES 22 NE 23.0
GREELEY 2.3 SE 22.0
PAGOSA SPRINGS 3 SE 22.0

...IDAHO...
WESTON 4.0
POCATELLO AIRPORT 3.7
BOISE 6.7 SE 3.5

...KANSAS...
MARYSVILLE 14.0
LINCOLN 5 NE 12.0
CONCORDIA 5 SSE 11.0
HAYS 13 WNW 9.0
SALINA 8.0
ABILENE 5 SSW 7.0
MANHATTAN 7.0

...NEBRASKA...
TECUMSEH 13.5
ORD 12.0
OMAHA 3 N 8.6
KEARNEY 8.0
INDIANOLA 6.0

...NEW MEXICO...
LAS VEGAS 8.4 NW 8.0
SANTA FE 3.3 NE 5.5
TAOS PUEBLO 2.8 NW 5.2
GALLUP 8.1 NNW 4.8

...NEVADA...
HEAVENLY VALLEY 34.0
MT ROSE SKI AREA 23.0
CARSON CITY 1.3 NW 18.0
RENO 7.1 N 13.7
SUN VALLEY 0.9 N 10.5

...SOUTH DAKOTA...
SIOUX FALLS 6.0

...UTAH...
VERDUE 8 WNW 25.0
SPRINGDELL 23.0
ORDERVILLE 19.0
SPRINGVILLE 10.0

...WYOMING...
SAND LAKE 11.0
DIVIDE PEAK 9.0
LARAMIE 27.3 WSW 6.0
CHEYENNE 26.7 NE 4.3

Next post
I'll have a new post Thursday; there's a lot going on.

Jeff Masters

Snow in Angels Camp. (Isolino)
Woke up this morning to snow. We don't get snow in Angels Camp very often. It made for some difficult driving.
Snow in Angels Camp.
Frost (thebige)
More frost on our car. This photo wasn't cropped or edited.
Frost

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Quoting CaneWarning:


Yes, all those who do not agree are overlooked. I think I must be the only Obama voting Democrat who doesn't think humans cause global warming.


Cane, we've had our differences on certain things but we've also got common ground too.
I have to say that we agree on most everything except the fact that I think we have some sort of an effect on global warming. To me the jury is still out on how much. Do you realize how much C02 we pump into the atmosphere globally? It's incomprehensible. There HAS to be some sort of an effect from that. If only all of us could agree on as much as we do, the world would be a much better place.
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Great post ATMO! Correlation is not causation. I think we learned that in our first day of Research Methods". Seems people would like to change that now...
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Excellent post! I agree. Why in the world do we allow the oil companies to run the show? It really is maddening.


We dont allow them to run the show, they just have more money and money in this world is power. Oil has become one of the most valuable non renewable resources. This has put the oil companies in a position that all the world is under there power and they know this and use this to there advantage. Until we make other means of power that will put them in there place, me, you and the rest of the developed world will be a storm trooper just following orders.
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
232. well, IMHO some common sense had better prevail soon or we might be shocked to find out what the future holds for this country...

but that's just my two cents.

Agreed.
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Climate Change, Tebow, and blame Canada!
Could the day get any sweeter?!

Now If someone could just get algae grown on dairy farm waste to supply our energy needs, and condensers to provide future water needs without damaging surface water ecology or ground water levels.(and lowering greenhouse gas levels!)

What a sweet LIFE!
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
LOL @ 201! appropriate and advantageous application of an ameliorating adjective! :)


Amazing "Alliteration" (ashamed/annoyed at (my) arrested answering)
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Quoting Ossqss:
How does this work in the Arctic?

Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths



Very interesting...
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Excellent post! I agree. Why in the world do we allow the oil companies to run the show? It really is maddening.


It's not just the oil companies that run the show. All big business runs the show. But, lets not forget they also employ most of us too.
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232. well, IMHO some common sense had better prevail soon or we might be shocked to find out what the future holds for this country...

but that's just my two cents.
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Note that the current decade will actually end at the end, not beginning, of 2010 since the calender starts with year 1. (The first decade was Jan. 1, 1 to Dec. 31, 10 (not Jan. 1, 0 to Dec. 31, 9; there was no year 0), second Jan. 1, 11 to Dec. 31, 20,... current Jan. 1, 2001 to Dec. 31, 2010.)
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Quoting Skyepony:
I posted some peer reviewed published papers on the tar sands yesterday. Apparently the folks down stream are getting some new exotic cancers. The area they plan to open mine is the size of England.

~Atmo your constantly trying to bring doubt to any of the science around this argument that you can. You say you live green though yet you argue to continue the practice that supports..
the removal of the mountain tops in Appalachians


oils spills


open tar pit mining


Not to mention being a slave to opec, possible waring over oil in the Arctic now that it is melted enough during summers, the health costs from all the other pollutants in using natural resources like this. Is it cool too that Exxon gets 3 billion tax payer this week even though it had a 45bill profit last year? I really don't understand, as smart as you are, why you haggle like we should continue doing this to ourselves..


Yeah, that tar sands thing is really nasty. Oil spills? Well, oil seeps, too.

Look, I despise killing dolphins to commercially catch tuna, too. I despise OPEC. We can, should, and will have a viable, reliable, and cost effective alternative to petroleum in 30 years (?). Right now we do not.

I am the first one to blame industry on an area here in SE LA coined Cancer Alley, a stretch of refineries, chemical plants, etc. from south of NOLA to Baton Rouge where there is a higher than normal cancer rate.

But, I am an earth science guy first and foremost. And my understanding of the state of the science is that we cannot claim to know that CO2 is an actual problem nor what, if any, portion of measured trends can be attributed to it's changing concentration.

My personal understanding and interpretation of available data says that CO2 being bandied about as a "dangerous" gas is destroying the environmental attentions that should be going to some of the conditions you point out. We should be solving Cancer Alley. We should be very heavily penalizing industries that emit toxins. We should be monitoring for these toxins far more than we are and the industries should be paying for the monitoring.

The doubt I interject? I demand good and complete consideration of all factors. If the data [edit, dang]: cannot support the conclusion, then the conclusion is suspect and should not be counted as fact.

A somewhat goofy corollary: No one is going to tell you that a Big Mac is good for you, but what if we conduct a study that says eating a Big Mac and automobile accident fatalities were related? They correlate well. Of course, no one should eat a Big Mac (well, not many or often, anyway) but we would not be demanding legislation to phase out Big Macs based on that correlation alone, would we? (when actually it is greasy fingers causing the accidents!)

IMO, that is the state of climate-CO2 science. It ties in somehow. It correlates to temperature. The actual effect is thus far indecipherable against the backdrop of natural changes and anthropogenic changes in land use.
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Guess it should have been an Environment Repairing/Pollution Reduction Conference in Copenhagen instead.
Both crowds would still have been there, and as long as they could be civil (not like some of the posts on this blog this last few days, present company excepted) -- maybe some decent compromises could have been hammered out, with a decent, albeit not visionary, outcome.

Wouldn't have been easy, but might have been helpful...blinders off and good intentions and honorable intents and purposes, 'kay, Cane? (Atmo, too.)



So, in your opinion, one can not be an environmentalist and, at the same time, doubt that we have any significant influence on climate patterns?
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Quoting Skyepony:
I posted some peer reviewed published papers on the tar sands yesterday. Apparently the folks down stream are getting some new exotic cancers. The area they plan to open mine is the size of England.

~Atmo your constantly trying to bring doubt to any of the science around this argument that you can. You say you live green though yet you argue to continue the practice that supports..
the removal of the mountain tops in Appalachians


oils spills


open tar pit mining


Not to mention being a slave to opec, possible waring over oil in the Arctic now that it is melted enough during summers, the health costs from all the other pollutants in using natural resources like this. Is it cool too that Exxon gets 3 billion tax payer this week even though it had a 45bill profit last year? I really don't understand, as smart as you are, why you haggle like we should continue doing this to ourselves..


Excellent post! I agree. Why in the world do we allow the oil companies to run the show? It really is maddening.
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Quoting trinigal:


Thankfully, you are not. I am just thrilled because a close relative of mine (a computer scientist) who for a number of years went on and on and on about global warming has finally given up that good fight. If his stubborn mind can be changed, many others can as well. I really believe this. Then again, he also was a strong believer in Obama and hasn't been overly excited about him either as of late.


Well, I have that in common with him as well. I put in a lot of volunteer hours to get Obama into office, and haven't been too impressed with his performance thus far. I doubt he'll get my vote in 2012, but that's another story all together.

I too have relatives and friends who were on the whole human caused global warming bandwagon a few years ago, and now they have jumped off the bandwagon. It seems that many in the American public (and many worldwide) are seeing it in a whole new light.
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Quoting Ossqss:


You are more than likely correct on that item. What impact does all that heat have on the water and ice above ? :)

Back to work--

L8R


Probably not much, unless it really has a strong eruption. Otherwise making nice glass features on the bottom of the ocean. You only see glass like that when hot or molten lava hits cold ocean water. Basically quenches the lava. If there was a big enough eruption you could see difference in the ocean current and ice being broken apart over top of the vent.
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Anyone who beats the Luckeyes are OK in my book.


yay! lol
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Quoting pearlandaggie:


exactly how did you hit 982mb? that's pretty tough to do, no? LOL

that's some pretty signficant depressurization!


LOL yeah :P it was giving me a headache and a little pain in my legs
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Quoting tornadodude:


mine went 5-7 LOL but we did beat Ohio State when they were ranked #7


Anyone who beats the Luckeyes are OK in my book.
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Quoting newenglandnative:
There is no "Glacier Controversy".

...His conclusion was that there was no major melting going on in the glaciers located above 5,400 m! He agreed, however, that there is melting going on at lower elevations.

‘There is an increase in melt in lower elevation glaciers and the hazards of moraine damned lakes are real...'

Professor Armstrong has not exactly gone up to the glaciers in these mountains to do the study — the research was done mostly by satellite imagery provided by NASA and other information. ‘There can be a large margin of error when doing remote sensing’, explained the Director General of the International Center for Integrated Mountain Development (ICIMOD based in Kathmandu) when I turned to him for further clarification. ‘The problem is that there is a lack of information and the higher up we go, the less we have.


But selective reading will defintely lead one to draw the wrong conclusions. It's obvious some people have an agenda to find a desired result.


Yeah, and according to the very same report, all glaciers under observation in the Himalayan region during the past three decades have shown cumulative negative mass balance. In other words, they're thinning and losing mass regardless of whether their front is advancing or retreating.
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Quoting CaneWarning:


I completely agree. I consider myself an environmentalist, but am not convinced that global warming is human caused. Sure, we do rotten things to the environment all the time, we should really work towards being better about that, but I still do not believe humans cause global warming.


Guess it should have been an Environment Repairing/Pollution Reduction Conference in Copenhagen instead.
Both crowds would still have been there, and as long as they could be civil (not like some of the posts on this blog this last few days, present company excepted) -- maybe some decent compromises could have been hammered out, with a decent, albeit not visionary, outcome.

Wouldn't have been easy, but might have been helpful...blinders off and good intentions and honorable intents and purposes, 'kay, Cane? (Atmo, too.)

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Safe bet.
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Quoting tornadodude:


I hit 982mb this morning, or 28.97in


exactly how did you hit 982mb? that's pretty tough to do, no? LOL

that's some pretty signficant depressurization!
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222. unf97
Quoting Jeff9641:
I've been watching the computer models the last several days and I'm becoming very interested in the possible SNOWSTORM for Northeast Florida and Southeeast Georgia in about 11 to 12 days out. The link is below. Even if this does not verify the potential is there for very interesting weather in the Southeast down the road. One thing is for sure all of Florida will see alot of rainfall maybe snow in north Florida.
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_264.shtml


Those model runs are interesting indeed. My rule of thumb is to not look ahead past 7 days. So much can change of course. But, with the El Nino pattern firmly entrenched across North America, it would not surprised me if this scenario happened in my neck of the woods. We already have seen it snow in the Deep South this autumn/winter season. If we can get a good arctic intrusion into the Deep South behind these Low pressure systems developing in this El Nino pattern, then certainly, we could see this scenario play out. We will see.
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Quoting Bordonaro:
The Low over SE MI has a central prssure of 971MB



I hit 982mb this morning, or 28.97in
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Quoting CaneWarning:


Yes, all those who do not agree are overlooked. I think I must be the only Obama voting Democrat who doesn't think humans cause global warming.


Thankfully, you are not. I am just thrilled because a close relative of mine (a computer scientist) who for a number of years went on and on and on about global warming has finally given up that good fight. If his stubborn mind can be changed, many others can as well. I really believe this. Then again, he also was a strong believer in Obama and hasn't been overly excited about him either as of late.
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I watched a show last night that was talking about the coming ice-age in another 200,000 years or so. Maybe we can stop that too. I remember in the 70's that it was all the rage to say we were entering "another ice age". 20 years sure did change the scientific concensus a lot.
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There is no "Glacier Controversy".

...His conclusion was that there was no major melting going on in the glaciers located above 5,400 m! He agreed, however, that there is melting going on at lower elevations.

‘There is an increase in melt in lower elevation glaciers and the hazards of moraine damned lakes are real...'

Professor Armstrong has not exactly gone up to the glaciers in these mountains to do the study — the research was done mostly by satellite imagery provided by NASA and other information. ‘There can be a large margin of error when doing remote sensing’, explained the Director General of the International Center for Integrated Mountain Development (ICIMOD based in Kathmandu) when I turned to him for further clarification. ‘The problem is that there is a lack of information and the higher up we go, the less we have.


But selective reading will defintely lead one to draw the wrong conclusions. It's obvious some people have an agenda to find a desired result.
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
LOL @ 201! appropriate and advantageous application of an ameliorating adjective! :)


LOL I couldnt leave it alone :P
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Quoting atmoaggie:

Ok, let's fulfill the prophecy.
Too much water vapor can be deadly.


Drinking too much water can kill you :-)
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The Low over SE MI has a central prssure of 971MB

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Quoting 1fullDeck:
I find it awfully convenient that "Global Warming" became "Climate Change" several years ago (when it could no longer be denied that the warming has stopped, temporarily or otherwise). Is there someone out there who really thinks that we can stop "climate change"? Do we really want to get this dynamic planet into one with a static climate? What a joke.I also find it interesting that Obama's Science czar says that 99% (give or take a few %)of scientists agree with AGW, & then quoted a number somewhere in the neighborhood of 2000 scientists who see AGW as "fact" not "theory". What about the 30,000 plus scientists who signed a petition saying that this THEORY is far from proven? Are they not qualified because they don't agree with the hacks who falsify data that doesn't match their theory? Most third grade science students can tell you that in order to be scientific fact, something needs to be "reproduceable" & verifiable by peers? How can you guys create a planet sized test? I find it almost as disturbing that Dr. Masters brushes these facts off so easily. At least news outlets other than Fox and Blogs are now reporting the story (though it seems that this is less important than Tiger's life issues). Before people start spouting venom about Right-wing wackos & such, I am an Independent.


Yes, all those who do not agree are overlooked. I think I must be the only Obama voting Democrat who doesn't think humans cause global warming.
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Quoting StormChaser81:


I bet you its the rock or soil composition that makes this possible at these depths, either that or some kind of chemical composition is present in the rocks around the volcanic activity.


You are more than likely correct on that item. What impact does all that heat have on the water and ice above ? :)

Back to work--

L8R
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212. Skyepony (Mod)


Quoting Ossqss:
How does this work in the Arctic?

Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths




Looks like there may have been an eruption back in 1999. The evidence was found in 2007. I would think the pressure from the eruption forced up the heat/rock through the water til it reached the point high enough that gases could form. Must have been a powerful volcano..
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Quoting trinigal:


In many ways, I'd be considered an environmentalist (although not to the religious level) but I very much believe our climate cycles are naturally occurring and we just do not have influence over them. That said, I am a strong believer in caring for the environment. Don't ever think that global warming scepticism is mutally exclusive of caring for the environment. And, seriously, don't ever equate many of these yahoos in Copenhagen this week as being good enviromentalists. I cannot get over their levels of waste.


I completely agree. I consider myself an environmentalist, but am not convinced that global warming is human caused. Sure, we do rotten things to the environment all the time, we should really work towards being better about that, but I still do not believe humans cause global warming.
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I find it awfully convenient that "Global Warming" became "Climate Change" several years ago (when it could no longer be denied that the warming has stopped, temporarily or otherwise). Is there someone out there who really thinks that we can stop "climate change"? Do we really want to get this dynamic planet into one with a static climate? What a joke.I also find it interesting that Obama's Science czar says that 99% (give or take a few %)of scientists agree with AGW, & then quoted a number somewhere in the neighborhood of 2000 scientists who see AGW as "fact" not "theory". What about the 30,000 plus scientists who signed a petition saying that this THEORY is far from proven? Are they not qualified because they don't agree with the hacks who falsify data that doesn't match their theory? Most third grade science students can tell you that in order to be scientific fact, something needs to be "reproduceable" & verifiable by peers? How can you guys create a planet sized test? I find it almost as disturbing that Dr. Masters brushes these facts off so easily. At least news outlets other than Fox and Blogs are now reporting the story (though it seems that this is less important than Tiger's life issues). Before people start spouting venom about Right-wing wackos & such, I am an Independent.
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Quoting Grothar:


I know what you mean Cane, probably the same bunch who thought that a pill called penicillin could kill a bacteria, or a crazy idea to give somebody small pox to prevent small pox, you know the disease that killed millions of people and disfigured them for life. Also the crazy Dr. Salk and Sabin who thought they could stop the polio epidemics with a sugar cube. Probably don't remember the polio epidemics, do you? You know, I think we should just sit back and do nothing. No discussion, no dialogue, no scientific advancement, just stagnation, deterioration, decline. It is just more fun to participate in character assassination than to care for the world around us.


LOL! Amen brother Groth. You are on a roll today my man!
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Quoting CaneWarning:


You can live green and still not think that global warming is human caused.


In many ways, I'd be considered an environmentalist (although not to the religious level) but I very much believe our climate cycles are naturally occurring and we just do not have influence over them. That said, I am a strong believer in caring for the environment. Don't ever think that global warming scepticism is mutally exclusive of caring for the environment. And, seriously, don't ever equate many of these yahoos in Copenhagen this week as being good enviromentalists. I cannot get over their levels of waste.
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About time they're going to have a college football playoff!! That is soooo long overdue!
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

Ohhhh, okay, call it POLLUTION and not climate change, CO2 problems, AGW, whatever.
Skye has posted the awful truth before everyone's eyes, and more than once.
Your Third Eyes are Open,
But You Have Blinders On.


No, I'm sorry, but I don't have blinders on.
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Quoting Ossqss:
How does this work in the Arctic?

Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths




I bet you its the rock or soil composition that makes this possible at these depths, either that or some kind of chemical composition is present in the rocks around the volcanic activity.
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Quoting CaneWarning:


You can live green and still not think that global warming is human caused.

Ohhhh, okay, call it POLLUTION and not climate change, CO2 problems, AGW, whatever.
Skye has posted the awful truth before everyone's eyes, and more than once.
Your Third Eyes are Open,
But You Have Blinders On.
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The glacier controversy, Friday, 27 Nov, 2009
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LOL @ 201! appropriate and advantageous application of an ameliorating adjective! :)
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
195. oh, my....get the Lifebuoy :)

In his defense, I see the word "garden" before hoe...was this an "add on", lol.

The Chris Farley "El Nino" post: +1

The Myths surrounding German Faeries class:
-666
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Quoting Skyepony:
I posted some peer reviewed published papers on the tar sands yesterday. Apparently the folks down stream are getting some new exotic cancers. The area they plan to open mine is the size of England.

~Atmo your constantly trying to bring doubt to any of the science around this argument that you can. You say you live green though yet you argue to continue the practice that supports..
the removal of the mountain tops in Appalachians


oils spills


open tar pit mining


Not to mention being a slave to opec, possible waring over oil in the Arctic now that it is melted enough during summers, the health costs from all the other pollutants in using natural resources like this. Is it cool too that Exxon gets 3 billion tax payer this week even though it had a 45bill profit last year? I really don't understand, as smart as you are, why you haggle like we should continue doing this to ourselves..


You can live green and still not think that global warming is human caused.
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I think the melting glaciers and ice sheets are pretty good evidence we are in a long term warming trend. There is no doubt about that along with all the other data that's been collected. Human causation is another question altogether and how and if we can affect any improvement in the situation.
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195. oh, my....get the Lifebuoy :)
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How does this work in the Arctic?

Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths


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Lafayette, Purdue University Airport
Lat: 40.43 Lon: -86.93 Elev: 623
Last Update on Dec 9, 12:54 pm EST

Light Snow and Windy

27 °F
(-3 °C)
Humidity: 66 %
Wind Speed: W 28 G 46 MPH
Barometer: 29.29" (992.2 mb)
Dewpoint: 17 °F (-8 °C)
Wind Chill: 11 °F (-12 °C)
Visibility: 9.00 mi.
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here is my updated garden hoe:

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