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Fierce storm hammers Southeast U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:17 PM GMT on December 02, 2009 +2
The Southeast U.S. is under the gun today from a combination of severe thunderstorms, high winds, heavy rain, and coastal storm surge flooding. A tornado was reported on the ground near Eglin Air Force Base, Florida this morning, and tornado warnings have been posted for two separate squall lines moving through the Florida Panhandle and neighboring regions of Alabama and Georgia. These squall lines are expected to intensify and generate tornadoes, heavy rain, and strong winds as they push eastwards today. The Storm Prediction Center (SPC) has put most of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina in their "Slight Risk" category for severe weather today, warning of the possibility of supercell thunderstorms capable of spawning tornadoes. If the air mass in front of these squall lines becomes sufficiently unstable this afternoon due to solar heating of the lower atmosphere and other factors, SPC may need to upgrade their severe weather category to "Moderate Risk", the second highest level of risk.


Figure 1. Satellite image of the December 2 storm. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

The storm's powerful winds blowing over the Gulf of Mexico have created storm surges of 2 - 3 feet along the coast, from New Orleans to the Florida Panhandle. A storm surge of two feet was recorded in Waveland, Mississippi last night and this morning, which caused flooding of low-lying roads in Hancock County. New Orleans recorded 2.42" of rain yesterday from the storm, breaking their record for the rainiest December 1. Radar-estimated rainfall (Figure 2) shows up to five inches of rain has fallen over some regions of the Florida Panhandle, and additional rainfall amounts of 2 - 5 inches are expected along the track of the storm as it heads north-northeast today. Flash flooding was reported in Charleston, SC this morning, closing several roads.


Figure 2. Radar-estimated rainfall from the December 2 Gulf Coast storm.

Also receiving a pounding from the storm were the Gulf Coast beaches from Dauphin Island, Alabama, to the Florida Panhandle near Pensacola. A storm surge of two feet, topped by battering waves 10 - 12 feet high, probably caused millions of dollars of erosion damage last night and this morning. A 16-mile stretch of man-made beach encompassing the Alabama coastal communities of Gulf Shores and Orange Beach suffered $5 million in erosion damage from the pounding delivered by Tropical Storm Ida last month. The two beach communities, along with Gulf State Park, spent about $24.2 million in 2005 to strengthen 16 miles of shoreline by dredging about 6 million cubic yards of sand from the sea floor and dumping it on shore. Hurricanes Gustav and Ike in 2008 did about $9.5 million in erosion damage to the Gulf Shores beach. Because the beach is man-made, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Alabama Emergency Management Agency treated it as they do bridges and highways, paying 85 percent of the tab to repair storm damage.

You can follow today's severe weather outbreak with our Severe Weather and Tornado pages.

Second Annual Portlight Honor Walk this weekend
When:
Saturday, December 5, 2009 or Sunday, December 6, 2009

What:
A nationwide grassroots event to raise funds for and awareness of Portlight's ongoing efforts specifically aimed at providing Christmas presents for kids and families devastated by the recent Atlanta floods, South Carolina wildfires, American Samoa tsunami, and other disasters that may occur.

Why:
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How:
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Next post
The embattled director of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the UK's University of East Anglia announced that he will be temporarily standing aside as director until an independent review resulting from allegations following the publication of emails illegally hacked from his computers. I'll be posting a response tonight or Thursday morning, assuming that today's storm does not generate a deadly tornado outbreak. I'm also working on a post titled, "Don't Shoot the Messenger", in response to charges by the Wall Street Journal in an editorial yesterday that climate scientists have a vested interest in promoting alarmist views of the climate in order to get research funding.

Jeff Masters
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551. VAbeachhurricanes 12:29 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting augfan:
Front just went thru JAX Int'l
18:56 Heavy Rain Fog/Mist 70 68 93 W 17 G 22 29.74

whereas St. Aug is still 78 and wind from the south.

If we are going to get anything, it's going to be soon.


the front is way back in GA, hasnt even passed through ATL
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552. aquak9 12:31 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
augfan- we're really only heavy misting here, near jax beach. No wind to speak of.

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553. Bordonaro 12:35 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
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554. atmoaggie 12:35 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Say what you will about the southern mets snow forecast experience, many of them come from places like Penn State, SUNY, Illinois, etc.

This, from Slidell (NOLA WFO) seems to be a very thorough and competent assessment of the dynamics involved, to me.

A VERY UNUSUAL SNOW EVENT LOOKS TO DEVELOP OVER PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 72 HOURS. FOR THIS EVENT TO DEVELOP...SEVERAL FACTORS MUST COME TOGETHER AT THE RIGHT TIME. CURRENTLY...FORECAST GUIDANCE HAS A FAIRLY GOOD HANDLE ON THE MID-UPPER LEVEL DYNAMICS OF THIS SYSTEM...AND ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE TIMING AND STRENGTH OF THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. IN FACT...IT APPEARS THAT SOME VERY VIGOROUS UPPER LEVEL LIFT WILL BE TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE REGION LATE FRIDAY INTO EARLY SATURDAY. THIS WILL PLAY A ROLE IN THE SNOWFALL EXPECTED OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD OF THE CWA. THE DIFFERENCES ARISE IN THE LOW LEVEL DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...AND THE TIMING OF THE DRY AIR INTRUSION AT AROUND 850MB LATE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. ALL OF THE MODELS DEPICT A STRONG GULF LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO ON FRIDAY...AS A POSITIVELY TILTED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS DIVES SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THIS LOW WILL FORM IN A REGION OF ENHANCED BAROCLINICITY CENTERED AROUND A STALLED FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO DEEPEN IN RESPONSE TO A JET COUPLET THAT IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER THE WESTERN GULF FRIDAY AFTERNOON. BY FRIDAY EVENING...THE LOW WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO. STRONG MOISTURE ADVECTION IN THE MID-LEVELS WILL TAKE PLACE FRIDAY EVENING ACROSS THE REGION AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH THE GULF. THIS MID-LEVEL MOISTURE...COMBINED WITH SOME UPPER LEVEL MOISTURE MOVING IN WITH THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS WILL BE THE FUEL THAT FEEDS THE PRECIPITATION EVENT FRIDAY NIGHT. AS STATED BEFORE...THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THIS SITUATION.

AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE MOISTURE BEGINS TO FEED INTO THE REGION...COLDER AIR WILL BE DRAWN SOUTHWARD IN RESPONSE TO THE STRENGTHENING SURFACE LOW IN THE GULF. TEMPERATURES WILL BEGIN TO FALL ACROSS THE CWA FRIDAY AFTERNOON AS THIS COLDER AIR MOVES IN. THE MOST NOTICABLE TEMPERATURE CHANGES WILL BE FROM 800MB DOWN TO THE SURFACE. MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW A GOOD 5 DEGREE DROP IN TEMPERATURES FROM 18Z FRIDAY TO 06Z SATURDAY. THIS DROP PLACES THE LOWER ATMOSPHERE INTO A MORE FAVORABLE ZONE FOR SNOW DEVELOPMENT FOR AREAS ACROSS SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI AND PARTS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA NORTH OF I-12. AS A RESULT...EXPECT SNOW TO DEVELOP SOMETIME IN THE LATE EVENING HOURS FRIDAY AND LINGER THROUGH THE NIGHT. ACCUMULATIONS ARE HARD TO PINPOINT AT THIS TIME...BUT SOME ACCUMULATION WILL BE POSSIBLE.

THE MAIN DIFFERENCES ARISE IN THE EXACT DURATION OF THE SNOWFALL. THE GFS AND ECMWF BOTH DEPICT STRONG DRY AIR ADVECTION TAKING HOLD BY 12Z...WITH THE STRONGEST DRYING IN THE MID-LEVELS. HOWEVER...THE NAM CONTINUES TO HOLD MID-LEVEL MOISTURE IN THE REGION FOR A FEW MORE HOURS...BEFORE SHOWING STRONG DRYING AROUND 18Z. AT THIS TIME...HAVE LEANED MORE TOWARD THE GFS AND ECMWF...WITH DRYING TAKING PLACE EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.
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555. Bordonaro 12:39 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
The worst T-storm activity has been shunted a couple of hundred miles ahead of the cold front. The worst of the storms are running NW to SE from coastal NC, SC, GA, from FL, running through near Jacksonville to about 60 mi W of Tampa, FL.
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556. atmoaggie 12:39 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Just noticing that Tampa launched a sonde at 18 Z. Looks ripe to me...some directional shear and enough CAPE...

0 Z should be along any time now, unless wx conditions warranted canceling the launch.


(Click for full size)
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557. AwakeInMaryland 12:39 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
TornadoDude -- WU mail Grothar -- Isn't this blog the greatest; we actually know someone who has relatives in Norway! Since he's on travel you might need to give him some time. BTW, nifty idea, i.e., "SURGE" soda, for gifts for people in meteorology.

from Wiki:

Surge was a citrus soft drink first introduced in Norway, under the name Urge (1996), by the Coca-Cola Company to compete with Pepsi's Mountain Dew.
History
In 1996, Coca-Cola decided to start producing Urge in the United States under the name Surge, although in Denmark, Norway and Sweden, the name remained the same.
blah blah yadda yadda
Coca-Cola now makes Vault, a soda which contains many similar ingredients to Surge, and therefore has a very similar taste.
Urge: the Norwegian predecessor to Surge
Urge logo closeup. Text in the bottom-right corner says "Sitrussmak(Citrus taste)"

Norway is the only country where one can still buy this soft drink. Surge was widely associated with the extreme sports lifestyle, with television commercials similar to those currently used by Mountain Dew. Expired cans and bottles of Surge now sell on eBay for high dollar amounts, including a reported $160.08 for a 12-pack sold in April 2005.[1]
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558. aquak9 12:41 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
ok, ok OK Bordonaro, I'm listening.

We only have like THIRTEEN weather radios here so this place is like NORAD.
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559. aquak9 12:44 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
speak of the devil...

WAAAA WAAA WAAAA ERRRRRRPPP EEEERRRP and now they have extended our tornado watch (#752) until 4am. Previously it was only till 10pm.

can someone give me the new map please?

(eeerp)
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560. augfan 12:44 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


the front is way back in GA, hasnt even passed through ATL


That same graphic is on JAX weather timed 5:39 AM, Wednesday.
And things do change. Tell you what, I'll do my weather and you do yours. Deal?
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561. VAbeachhurricanes 12:45 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
ok, ok OK Bordonaro, I'm listening.

We only have like THIRTEEN weather radios here so this place is like NORAD.



haha i see norad and i automatically think COD MW2 :D
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562. VAbeachhurricanes 12:48 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting augfan:


That same graphic is on JAX weather timed 5:39 AM, Wednesday.
And things do change. Tell you what, I'll do my weather and you do yours. Deal?


...
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563. Ighuc 12:48 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Does anyone have any idea how Nida is still alive? It seemed as though she was a typical Pacific fish, but has somehow managed to escape the trough that is wreaking havoc on the east coast right now. It looks like she is about dead, just seems unusual that she was able to putts around for so long.
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564. aquak9 12:49 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:



haha i see norad and i automatically think COD MW2 :D


well, we DO have to test our inventory...
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565. reedzone 12:49 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Tampa and Orlando now in a new tornado watch. Basically some isolated supercells with the potential to spawn a tornado. Definitely gusty storms to say the most..
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567. Bordonaro 12:51 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Meteorologist who are educated in the Northern US are indeed very intelligent. I am from NY state myself, although I am not a meteorologist.

Forecasting snow across much of the Southern US is a challenge, there must be adequate cold air in the upper levels down to ground level. You have to have moisture and lift.

The scenarios that play out in the Northern US differ greatly from the Southern US, as the GOM averages 60-75F, even during the winter.

Too much warm air advected warms the atmosphere and causes many of our Southern winter weather events to be freezing drizzle/rain or sleet. Most N TX winter weather events are caused by warm gulf air advecting over the colder surface air, and fall under that catagory of ice/freezing rain/drizzle.

We shall soon find out how the scenario plays out come FR into SA.
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568. Ossqss 12:51 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
How high do cloud tops need to be to produce a tornado ?
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569. VAbeachhurricanes 12:52 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting FreelanceHistorian:


Shows you how old I am: I see NORAD and thing "WarGames", the movie with a very young Matthew Broderick.

Then I think of Dr Strangelove.


not really im 17 and thats one of my favorite movies... tic tac toe is a great game :D
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570. GeoffreyWPB 12:52 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
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571. pottery 12:54 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Just for info--
The Uruguay and Parana rivers in N/E Argentina have overflowed their banks after days of torrential rain. Thousands have been evacuated...
A huge area is affected.
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573. atmoaggie 12:55 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:
How high do cloud tops need to be to produce a tornado ?

Only high enough for the direction change in wind direction to take hold...in that sounding I posted, 300 mb level would be enough, theoretically.

Broiled, self-caught, fresh-as-can-be Black Drum waiting for me...L8R.
Slurp!
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574. Bordonaro 12:56 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:
How high do cloud tops need to be to produce a tornado ?

Cloud tops in most tornadic thunderstorms usually are at least 35,000 FT. However some tornadic cells go all the way up to 75,000 FT.

In order to produce a tornado, you need lift and shear. The lift, or forcing can be caused by warm air being forced up and over cold air. The changing of wind with height, or wind shear, causes the warm air parcel to rise very quickly and turn with height, These elements in combination cause super-cell and tornadic activity.
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575. aquak9 12:59 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
freelance- here on WU, sometimes it seems we're all ageless...well most of us anyway...
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576. Ossqss 1:04 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Thank's guys. I found these interesting also :)

Landspout

Not sure what happened to the first link. LoL

L8R
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577. tornadodude 1:04 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
TornadoDude -- WU mail Grothar -- Isn't this blog the greatest; we actually know someone who has relatives in Norway! Since he's on travel you might need to give him some time. BTW, nifty idea, i.e., "SURGE" soda, for gifts for people in meteorology.

from Wiki:

Surge was a citrus soft drink first introduced in Norway, under the name Urge (1996), by the Coca-Cola Company to compete with Pepsi's Mountain Dew.
History
In 1996, Coca-Cola decided to start producing Urge in the United States under the name Surge, although in Denmark, Norway and Sweden, the name remained the same.
blah blah yadda yadda
Coca-Cola now makes Vault, a soda which contains many similar ingredients to Surge, and therefore has a very similar taste.
Urge: the Norwegian predecessor to Surge
Urge logo closeup. Text in the bottom-right corner says "Sitrussmak(Citrus taste)"

Norway is the only country where one can still buy this soft drink. Surge was widely associated with the extreme sports lifestyle, with television commercials similar to those currently used by Mountain Dew. Expired cans and bottles of Surge now sell on eBay for high dollar amounts, including a reported $160.08 for a 12-pack sold in April 2005.[1]


Hey! good idea, thanks!! (:

Didnt even think of that! And the history of it is rather interesting indeed
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578. Bordonaro 1:09 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
ok, ok OK Bordonaro, I'm listening.

We only have like THIRTEEN weather radios here so this place is like NORAD.

Bless you! MOST people just kinda' say, "It ain't gonna happen to me"! Well, this atmosphere is loaded with energy. The tilted trough is forcing tons of warm, tropical air up into the Carolinas. The wind shear and the LLJ are adding insult to injury.

This most likely will NOT be a widespread tornadic outbreak. HOWEVER, the shear levels are causing the cells to spin, so discreet super-cells can create a EF1 or greater tornado, with little to no warning. The LLJ winds can be carried down to the surface by the squall line.

You are a "smart" weather watcher. You are prepared to "expect the unexpected"! My concern is for those folks that say, "It ain't gonna happen to me". "When you least expect it, expect it to happen to YOU"..
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579. Bordonaro 1:13 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
HERE WE GO TAMPA!!!

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
801 PM EST WED DEC 2 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... SOUTHERN CITRUS COUNTY IN FLORIDA. WESTERN HERNANDO COUNTY IN FLORIDA. WESTERN PASCO COUNTY IN FLORIDA. NORTHWESTERN PINELLAS COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 830 PM EST

* AT 757 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM 8 MILES WEST OF PORT RICHEY TO 6 MILES WEST OF TARPON SPRINGS TO 20 MILES SOUTHWEST OF TARPON SPRINGS...OR ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM 9 MILES WEST OF NEW PORT RICHEY TO 6 MILES WEST OF PALM HARBOR TO 13 MILES WEST OF LARGO...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE NEAR...

PORT RICHEY. ARIPEKA. HERNANDO BEACH. MOON LAKE ESTATES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE WARNED AREA. IF A TORNADO IS SPOTTED...ACT QUICKLY AND MOVE TO A PLACE OF SAFETY IN A STURDY STRUCTURE...SUCH AS A BASEMENT OR SMALL INTERIOR ROOM. FOR YOUR PROTECTION MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF YOUR HOME OR BUSINESS. THIS STORM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY AND SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 AM EST THURSDAY MORNING FOR SOUTHWESTERN FLORIDA.
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580. HIEXPRESS 1:15 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
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581. Bordonaro 1:16 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
BULLETIN -
EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
JACKSONVILLE FL 813 PM EST WED DEC 2 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSONVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...

CLAY COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA NORTHERN PUTNAM COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA CENTRAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA SOUTHEASTERN DUVAL COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA

* UNTIL 900 PM EST

* AT 813 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH.

THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR MIDDLEBURG...OR 11 MILES SOUTHWEST OF LAKESIDE...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO GREEN COVE SPRINGS...PICOLATA...DOCTORS INLET...LAKESIDE...SWITZERLAND... ORANGE PARK...FRUIT COVE...MANDARIN...DURBIN AND BAYARD.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... DOPPLER RADAR HAS INDICATED SOME WEAK ROTATION WITHIN THIS STORM. WHILE NOT IMMEDIATELY LIKELY...A TORNADO MAY STILL DEVELOP. IF A TORNADO IS SPOTTED...ACT QUICKLY AND MOVE TO A PLACE OF SAFETY IN A STURDY STRUCTURE...SUCH AS A BASEMENT OR SMALL INTERIOR ROOM. REPORT SEVERE WEATHER OR DAMAGE TO THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EST WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR NORTHEASTERN FLORIDA. A TORNADO WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 AM EST THURSDAY MORNING FOR NORTHEASTERN FLORIDA.
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582. gordydunnot 1:22 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Dr. Strangelove a must see with Peter Sellers,George C. Scott and Slim Pickens how can you go wrong, amongst a cast to long to recall. Kind of like a serious caddy shack. Oh JeffWPB didnt mean not to answer you the other night didnt want to alarm anyone with Wilma comparison. Just that it was still stalled and no one predicted the path over S. Fl. at the time. I saw the ring a couple days earlier and had a funny feeling since they usually forecast a significant change in the weather from west to east.
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583. Bordonaro 1:28 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
JACKSONVILLE FL 823 PM EST WED DEC 2 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSONVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... EXTREME NORTHERN CLAY COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA EASTERN NASSAU COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA DUVAL COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA

* UNTIL 915 PM EST

* AT 823 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR NORMANDY...OR 7 MILES NORTHWEST OF ORANGE PARK...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO NORMANDY...ORTEGA...RIVERSIDE...SAN MARCO...DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE...ARLINGTON...OCEANWAY...AMELIA CITY AND FERNANDINA BEACH. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

DOPPLER RADAR HAS INDICATED SOME WEAK ROTATION WITHIN THIS STORM. WHILE NOT IMMEDIATELY LIKELY...A TORNADO MAY STILL DEVELOP. IF A TORNADO IS SPOTTED...ACT QUICKLY AND MOVE TO A PLACE OF SAFETY IN A STURDY STRUCTURE...SUCH AS A BASEMENT OR SMALL INTERIOR ROOM. REPORT SEVERE WEATHER OR DAMAGE TO THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EST WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR NORTHEASTERN FLORIDA. A TORNADO WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 AM EST THURSDAY MORNING FOR NORTHEASTERN FLORIDA.
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584. Yalahaman 1:28 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Seems like all the severe weather is heading north. Central and south Fla. may only experience some heavy rain and thunder.
So far here in beautiful Yalaha,Fl. , Light rain and s winds up to 12 ! We shall wait and see ! EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD AND TORNADO FREE NIGHT!
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585. reedzone 1:30 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Only a matter of time until Flagler County gets a Severe Weather Warning. Colors don't make a severe storm, it's the elements that do. You can have an orange cell, and still have a warning.
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586. Bordonaro 1:31 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
speak of the devil...

WAAAA WAAA WAAAA ERRRRRRPPP EEEERRRP and now they have extended our tornado watch (#752) until 4am. Previously it was only till 10pm.

can someone give me the new map please?

(eeerp)


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587. TheCaneWhisperer 1:34 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
Only a matter of time until Flagler County gets a Severe Weather Warning. Colors don't make a severe storm, it's the elements that do. You can have an orange cell, and still have a warning.



It's going to be a long night. The line is just starting to crank. These cells should make the pass unscathed.
588. charlottefl 1:34 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Tampa/St. Pete it's about to get nasty there..
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589. gordydunnot 1:35 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Where is Tampa spin I hope he not having to hide in the cellar. And I mean that sincerely.
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590. GeoffreyWPB 1:35 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Never have seen the movie. I love Peter Sellers though as Inspector Clouseau.

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591. Chicklit 1:35 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Very quiet and temps in high seventies here as we wait for the line of storms to come through:
(THIS REPORT FROM NWS HAS BEEN EDITED FOR BREVITY; TO GET THE FULL REPORT, INCLUDING MARINE FORECAST, PLEASE CLICK LINK BELOW)
811 PM EST WED DEC 2 2009
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA. .DAY ONE...TONIGHT.
...TORNADO WATCH FOR MUCH OF EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA THROUGH 4 AM EST...
...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
A BROKEN LINE OF LIGHTNING STORMS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA AREA TONIGHT AND INTO THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF THURSDAY.
STRONG ENVIRONMENTAL WINDS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE STORMS WILL LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF SEVERE WEATHER AND OR ISOLATED TORNADOES. A FEW STORMS WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE BRIEF TORNADOES...WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 55 MPH...AND DEADLY CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING STRIKES.
TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS WILL REDUCE VISIBILITY AND CREATE PONDING OF WATER ON ROADS. ...
THE GREATEST THREAT FOR TORNADOES AND SEVERE WIND GUSTS IS GENERALLY IN THE TORNADO WATCH AREA WHICH IS ALONG AND NORTH OF A LINE FROM SOUTH OSCEOLA COUNTY TO THE BREVARD AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY LINE.

...WATERSPOUT IMPACT...
STORMS MOVING OFF THE MAINLAND WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING WATERSPOUTS IN THE MARINE AREAS OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY AS WELL AS THE NEARSHORE ATLANTIC WATERS OF EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA. THE WATERSPOUT THREAT WILL BE HIGHER MAINLY FROM BREVARD COUNTY TO VOLUSIA COUNTY ALONG THE COAST OVERNIGHT...

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
ACTIVATION OF SKYWARN NETWORKS IN AFFECTED AREAS IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS.

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592. Canekid98 1:40 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
how much snow is likely in Houston for Friday?
593. Magicchaos 1:41 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2191
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0731 PM CST WED DEC 02 2009

AREAS AFFECTED...ERN SC...ERN NC

CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 789...

VALID 030131Z - 030300Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 789 CONTINUES.

THE TORNADO THREAT ACROSS WW 791 WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS NC
OVER THE NEXT 1-2 HOURS. A NEW TORNADO WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED
WITHIN THE HOUR ACROSS CNTRL NC INTO SERN VA.

THE AIRMASS ACROSS WW 791 IS RAPIDLY DESTABILIZING DUE TO STRONG
MOISTURE ADVECTION AS A WARM FRONT MOVES QUICKLY NWD ACROSS NC. SFC
DEWPOINTS ARE ALREADY IN THE UPPER 60S F IN GREENVILLE NC AND THIS
MOISTURE SHOULD REACH THE NC-VA STATE-LINE DURING THE 02Z TO 03
TIMEFRAME. THE MOISTURE COMBINED WITH A STRONG SHEAR ENVIRONMENT
ALREADY IN PLACE IS INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR ROTATING STORMS AND
TORNADOES. TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH DISCRETE CELLS AHEAD OF A
BAND OF RAIN CURRENTLY WEST OF THE RALEIGH/DURHAM VICINITY. ROTATING
CELLS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE EMBEDDED IN THE RAIN BAND ESPECIALLY SWD
TOWARD THE SC STATE-LINE WHERE SFC DEWPOINTS ARE APPROACHING 70 F.
AS LARGE-SCALE ASCENT SPREADS ACROSS NC...THE LOW-LCL HEIGHTS AND
0-1 KM SHEAR OF 35-45 KT SHOULD SUPPORT SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT WITH A
STRONG TORNADO POSSIBLE AS THE LOW-LEVEL JET SHIFTS NNEWD INTO THE
CNTRL PART OF WW 791.

..BROYLES.. 12/03/2009
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594. natrwalkn 1:44 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Just heard a rumble of thunder and temps are rising here in Greensboro, NC
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595. gordydunnot 1:44 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Geoffrey do yourself self a favor its in most top 25 movies of all time. You will love Peter Sellers he plays two parts kind of like Mike Myers in Austin Powers but serious characters in a funny way. Through in Slim P. and G.C. Scott nothing else to say. You may find it a block buster or old video store if someone online knows where it is at please post. Please everyone relax and stay safe just as they use to say in baseball heads up. We need a little rain.
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596. GeoffreyWPB 1:45 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Will do gordy...thanks!
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597. atmoaggie 1:45 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Judging by the lightning detected, there is some deep convection still out of radar range...

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598. hydrus 1:47 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting weatherbro:
By early next week that upper-level ridge over Hispaniola is certain to break-down and stall out allowing the deep layer trough over the plains to head for the east. Couple that with a developing Negative NAO and Negative AO in conjunction the strong El Nino, Florida will get severe weather. The south and Eastern seaboard(yes the I-95 corridor) will get a good dose of the white stuff.

I tell ya, that Mean ridge over Hispaniola caught meteorologists totally off guard. Because of that, Miami could see hefty amounts of rain while Northern and central Florida will see cloudy skies with highs in the 65-70 highs/48-54 lows. Thursday through Sat. If that low lifts up, Saturday wilt be a wet one for Orlando.

After that, the cold will arrive by early next week(yesterday they said it would warm up. Don't know where they got that).

The way models a lookin', the east won't see another upper-level ridge(positive NAO) in another month and a half. Let's see what happens.

All in all, the prospects for a white Christmas look real promising in the east(especially the Mississippi valley/south east). Let's just hope a butterfly doesn't ruin it for all of us.:)
Very informative post, I have to call Lorenz to find out about the butterfly thing...:)
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599. atmoaggie 1:47 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
SPC report:

1 W HUDSON PASCO FL
SPOTTER MEASURED GUST OF 60 MPH WITH AN ANEMOMETER. (TBW)
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600. jeffs713 1:48 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting Canekid98:
how much snow is likely in Houston for Friday?

Too early to tell if it will even happen.

For snow, 3 things have to come together at the same time:
1. Cold temps in a deep layer of the atmosphere.
2. Enough moisture in the air to generate precip.
3. Something to set it all off.

Right now, the temps are looking good. The moisture is looking good, too. The question is the timing of the shortwave coming from the Rockies... will it get to Houston in time to meet the moisture before the high pushes it away?

IF (and that is a HUGE "if") it snows, max accumulations will likely be one inch. Inside Houston proper, you likely won't get much accumulation due to the heat island effect.
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601. atmoaggie 1:49 AM GMT on December 03, 2009    
Quoting hydrus:
Very informative post, I have to call Lorenz to find out about the butterfly thing...:)

Sadly we lost Lorenz a year or so ago...
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