A new record minimum for arctic sea ice

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:07 PM GMT on November 18, 2009

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Arctic sea ice reached a new record minimum during the first half of November, according to data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (Figure 1). The record low ice extent this month is the first extended period of record minimum arctic sea ice since 2007. The new record minimum suggests that the gains in ice seen over the past two years were probably a temporary fluctuation due to normal year-to-year variability in the weather, and that the long-term arctic sea ice decline observed since the 1970s is continuing.


Figure 1. Arctic sea ice extent up to November 16, 2009, compared to the record low year of 2007 and the average from 1979 - 2000. Sea ice extent over the past ten days has fallen below the record minimum observed in 2007. Image credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center.

What caused the new record low?
The record low was due to very warm air invading the Arctic during October, in combination with the unusually warm ocean temperatures that have prevailed in the region over the past few decades. The warm air temperatures were primarily the result of an intense series of low pressure systems in the Arctic Ocean, north of Siberia, that worked in concert with a very strong high pressure system north of Alaska to drive warm air from Central Asia poleward over the past six weeks. The strong storms and unusual pressure pattern brought winds of about 5 mph above average to large regions of the Arctic Ocean, which helped break up existing ice and kept ice from freezing as much as usual. With all that warm air flowing into the Arctic, the cold air that was there had to go somewhere else, and that "somewhere else" was North America. The U.S. recorded its 3rd coldest October on record in 2009, thanks to cold air flowing out of the Arctic. The temperature and sea level pressure patterns over the Northern Hemisphere for October (Figure 2) were highly anomalous, with temperatures up to 27°F (15°C) above average over the Arctic Ocean, and sea level pressures up to 11 mb above average. The atmospheric circulation pattern has shifted over the past two weeks, with the result that warm air from Central Asia is no longer being pumped into the Arctic so vigorously, nor is cold air from the Arctic streaming southward into North America. As a result, temperature anomalies in the Arctic are beginning to decline, and sea ice extent later this month will probably rise above the record minimums observed in 2007.



Figure 2. Departure of surface air temperature and surface pressure from average for October 2009. Surface temperatures in the Arctic were up to 27°F (15°C) above average over the Arctic Ocean, due to sea ice loss. The strongest anomalies occurred where sea ice was missing from its usual position, though the entire Arctic was affected. The clockwise flow of air around the anomalously strong high pressure system north of Alaska (labeled "H" in the right-hand image) helped drive a flow of very warm air from Central Asia into the Arctic, and a very cold flow of air out of the Arctic southward into North America. Image credit: NOAA/ESRL.

How will the November sea ice loss affect next summer's sea ice loss?
A record 19% of the Arctic sea ice cover this summer in the Arctic was over 2 years old, far below the 1981 - 2000 average of 52%. In the summer of 2009, NASA researcher Ron Kwok and colleagues from the University of Washington in Seattle published satellite data showing that mean winter arctic ice thickness declined by 48% between 1980 and 2008. The loss accelerated over the past five years, with the ice losing 0.68 meters (2.2 feet) of thickness between 2004 and 2008, finishing at 6.2 feet thick. This remarkable thinning was confirmed in May 2009 by the Catlin Arctic Survey, a 9-week, 435 km expedition across the Canadian Arctic led by polar scientist Professor Peter Wadhams of the University of Cambridge. Wadhams' expedition found that most of the route had first year ice just 5.9 feet (1.8 meters) thick. With El Niño conditions crossing from the moderate to strong category over the past two weeks in the Eastern Pacific, the prospects for a much warmer than usual winter in the Arctic have increased, likely setting the stage for continued record or near-record minimum sea ice extent and thickness into next spring. The arctic sea ice will be very vulnerable to a new record minimum next summer if warmer than average temperatures are seen over the Arctic.

Sea ice loss causes stronger storms in the Arctic
The stronger storms over the Arctic Ocean this fall were due, in part, to the loss of sea ice. In a 2009 article titled, Extraordinary September Arctic sea ice reductions and their relationships with storm behavior over 1979-2008, Simmonds and Keay found that September storms over the East Arctic intensified by about 1 mb over the past 30 years and had grown about 50 miles larger in diameter, thanks to all the extra heat energy supplied by more open water due to recent losses in Arctic sea ice. These stronger storms may create a positive feedback loop that will lead to even more sea ice loss: reduced sea ice drives stronger storms, whose winds break up sea ice, creating even more warm water to feed stronger storms with stronger winds, and so on. Now that the arctic sea ice is 48% thinner than 30 years ago, this effect will increase in importance, since thinner ice breaks up more readily in strong winds.

Expect an ice-free Arctic by 2030
In a press release put out by the Catlin Arctic Survey, Professor Wadhams said, "The Catlin Arctic Survey data supports the new consensus view--based on seasonal variation of ice extent and thickness, changes in temperatures, winds and especially ice composition--that the Arctic will be ice-free in summer within about 20 years, and that much of the decrease will be happening within 10 years". In their 2009 report on this year's Arctic sea ice minimum, National Snow and Ice Data Center Director and Senior Scientist Dr. Mark Serreze said, "It's nice to see a little recovery over the past couple years, but there's no reason to think that we're headed back to conditions seen back in the 1970s. We still expect to see ice-free summers sometime in the next few decades". At the December 2008 American Geophysical Union (AGU) meeting, the world's largest climate change conference, sea ice expert Dr. Wieslaw Maslowski of the Navy Postgraduate School blamed 60% of the melting during the past decade on heat brought in by ocean currents, and projected that summertime arctic sea ice would completely disappear by 2016. Dr. Jim Overland of NOAA's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory was more conservative, projecting a 2030 demise of arctic sea ice. He thought we would be "hanging around where we are for a while", and thought it would take two more unusual summers like the "perfect storm" of 2007 to push the system to an ice-free state.

The consequences
There were 88 presentations on arctic sea ice at the 2008 AGU conference. None of the presenters expressed the view that the current long-term decline in arctic sea ice was almost entirely natural, or that we can expect the decline to reverse this century. Sea ice experts do blame part of the decline on natural variability in the weather, but we wouldn't be where we are now without the warming caused by human-emitted greenhouse gases. One view (Stroeve et al., 2007) is that human-emitted greenhouse gases are responsible for 47 - 57% of the arctic sea ice loss since 1979. Heat-absorbing black soot from fires and pollution settling on the white ice is thought to also be a significant contributor.

The consensus I heard at the AGU conference among arctic sea ice experts was that the summertime sea ice will be gone by 2030. If they are correct, we can expect a period of significantly accelerated global climate change to begin 10 - 20 years from now. Arctic sea ice is one of the critical components maintaining the stability of our current climate. Once the the ice is gone, the climate will become unstable, with highly unpredictable results. It is true that Earth's past has many examples of warmer climates that evolved due to natural causes where life flourished, and we shouldn't fear the new, stable climate we will eventually arrive at centuries from now. However, life on Earth is adapted to the current climate. The changes that will occur during the transition will be extremely disruptive to Earth's ecosystems and the humans that rely on them for life. If one were to rate the destructive capability of climate change the way we rate hurricanes, I would rate current climate change at the "Invest" or "tropical disturbance" stage--the climate change storm is just beginning to organize. But the coming climate change storm is destined to hit our children with the full fury of intensifying hurricane.

References
Kwok, R., and D. A. Rothrock. 2009, "Decline in Arctic sea ice thickness from submarine and ICESat records: 1958-2008", Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L15501, doi:10.1029/2009GL039035

Simmonds, I., and K. Keay (2009), Extraordinary September Arctic sea ice reductions and their relationships with storm behavior over 1979.2008, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L19715, doi:10.1029/2009GL039810.

Stroeve, J., M.M. Holland, W. Meier, T. Scambos, and M. Serreze, Arctic sea ice decline:Faster than forecast", GRL 34 L09501, doi:1029/2007GL029703, 2007.

The road to Copenhagen
By some accounts, the future of the world will be at stake this December, when the crucial U.N. Climate Change Conference will be held December 7 - 18 in Copenhagen, Denmark. At that meeting, the leaders of the world will gather to negotiate an agreement to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol. The new agreement will be the world's road map for dealing with climate change, and the stakes are huge. Dr. Ricky Rood, author of Wunderground's climate change blog, will be there, and Wunderground has given the University of Michigan a grant to send a student who will also blog for us. I have a number of posts I'm planning in the run-up to Copenhagen, including:

- Impact of arctic sea ice loss on Northern Hemisphere winter weather
- The Manufactured Doubt industry
- What global warming skeptics say about arctic sea ice
- Is higher CO2 more beneficial for Earth's ecosystems?

I'll also have an end-of-hurricane season summary on November 30, plus posts on whatever breaking weather stories occur. My next post will be Friday, when I plan to summarize the global weather last month, which was the 2nd - 6th warmest October on record.

Jeff Masters

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Oh Good. Flood is out of op. Rejoice.
And I found a way to get the cap off the bottle too. Rejoice.
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Wow, Aussie.
Sounds pretty serious down there.
Keep damp!
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Jerry's out of surgery! All the hippies rejoice!!!!!!!!!

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I just talked to the surgeon. Surgery took longer because they got in there and found that his spine and bone structure are not as they should be. They ended up fusing L3-L4, as well, plus some additional grafting. Doctor says he needed to make certain the screws themselves would not cause more pain, being that they were inserted at L4-L5, but going through L4-L3.

So, he's in recovery, doing well. More later on the new blog. I'll poke my head in here too, after they move him to the room.

Thanks, ALL OF YOU!!!! :)
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Will develope into what?

an LPA. lol
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Wonder if it will change the colour of his eyes? would miss the traffic- light look if it does.

nah...it's Jerry we're talkin' about...he'll still be drivin' that train.....

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Quoting Patrap:
The Western GOM Low will form the next 24 hrs then move east

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Diary continues---

Nov 19th, PM. A slight short soft shower soon saturated some soil. Was distressed at bottle being half empty. Inverted it. Half full now. cannot find way to unscrew cap, while preventing contents from escaping. Brain playing tricks. could have sworn it was Thursday. Friend having bionic additions to neck. Wonder if it will change the colour of his eyes? would miss the traffic- light look if it does.
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CATASTROPHIC FIRE DANGER IN PARTS OF NSW TODAY
Posted: 19/11/2009

NSW Rural Fire Service Commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons has issued a warning to residents about the need to be prepared for bush fires, with extensive total fire bans and some parts of the state experiencing a Catastrophic Fire Danger Rating on Friday 20 November.


Commissioner Fitzsimmons said based on latest predictions from the Bureau Of Meteorology,the Lower Central West Plains, Southern Riverina, Northern Riverina, South Western and Far Western areas will experience a Catastrophic fire danger tomorrow (Friday).

Total Fire Bans have been declared in the following Fire Areas until midnight tomorrow night, due to expected hot and dry conditions.

* Greater Sydney (including the Central Coast and Blue Mountains) – Severe
* Upper Central West Plains - Extreme
* Lower Central West Plains – Catastrophic
* Greater Hunter – Severe
* Southern Slopes – Extreme
* Monaro Alpine – Severe
* Eastern Riverina – Extreme
* Southern Ranges – Severe
* Southern Riverina – Catastrophic
* Central Ranges – Severe
* Northern Riverina – Catastrophic
* Northern Slopes – Severe
* South Western – Catastrophic
* North Western – Severe
* Far Western – Catastrophic

“People living in areas where a Catastrophic fire danger rating is forecast should ensure they avoid being in bush fire prone areas tomorrow (Friday),” Commissioner Fitzsimmons said.

“This is not a call for alarm or panic. Simply, if you live in these areas, plan activities away from a bush fire prone area, such as going to a friend’s house, a shopping centre or into town,” he
said.

Commissioner Fitzsimmons said in those areas with a fire danger rating of Catastrophic, even homes which are specially designed and constructed to withstand a bush fire, and are properly prepared, may not be safe during a fire.

“Under these conditions any fire that starts and takes hold will typically be uncontrollable, unpredictable and fast moving. Embers will be blown ahead of the fire, creating spot fires that will move quickly and may threaten your home earlier than the predicted main fire front.

“If you are in a bush fire prone area under a Catastrophic rating, the safest option is leaving early, such as tomorrow morning. People in these areas need to be on the highest state of alert and be prepared.

“Rural land holders across the State have already shown great responsibility and diligence by restricting practices such as harvesting and agricultural activities in recent days.

“These types of restrictions will become even more important during this period of elevated fire danger.

“No matter where you live, no matter what the fire danger, now is not the time for complacency, but planned and considered action,” Commissioner Fitzsimmons said.

A map of affected areas, including centres under a Catastrophic Fire Danger Rating, can be found here.
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Good Morning all. going to be an absolute stinking hot day here in old Sydney town. It's 10am and already 30C(86F) ment to get up to 40C(104F). Last night there was a lightening storm that passed just north of Sydney in the Hawkesbury area that started a few bush fires, currently there are approx 34 dangerous bush fires in NSW and plenty more in QLD and SA.
Cheers AussieStorm
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Quoting icmoore:
Hi LST! So glad you did it! Hang in there :)


Thanks, ic - this would be a whole lot easier if they'd tell me which room we'll be in, so I didn't have to babysit all of our stuff! Can't even go outside to stretch my legs and get some fresh air...
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Oops, see 570. Thank you, Mrs. Flood. New blog for you is good idea; guess I'll have to freshen up on that windows multi-tasking thing.
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Quoting Grothar:
Any word on Flood?


Hi, Grothar...Mrs. Flood, here. He's still in surgery, been about 3 hours, now. They said it would be about that, so I'm hoping to hear something soon.

I've started a Wunderblog to update everyone on how he's doing. Also, as our WU friend icmoore suggested, it will be a good place for Flood (and me) to hang out while he's recuperating. He can chat with everyone and not have to worry about the topic.
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Mrs Flood (LongStrangeTrip) has opened a blog so we can feel free to post music, pictures, you-tubes etc to help entertain The Flood and get to know the Mrs!!!
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Pottery, if the USDA Animal & Plant Health Inspection Service would let it go through...we'd be glad to share!

Do you have such exotic goods as frozen Marie Callender's? (Do NOT look at fat content, that's what makes it tasty. Besides, Dr. Atkins says fat is okay.) That and pizza keep my hubby pretty content when I'm away...that, and his man cave, and the dogs.


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Any word on Flood?
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX
351 PM CST THU NOV 19 2009

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT)...MOISTURE HAS SURGED
BACK INTO SOUTH TEXAS WITH DEWPOINT TEMPS IN THE MID/UPPER 60S OVER
THE COASTAL PLAINS. AIRMASS HAS BECOME MODERATELY UNSTABLE WITH
MSAS SHOWING LIFTED INDEX VALUES OF -5 TO -6 DEGREES OVER THE
COASTAL BEND...AND LAPS SHOWING CAPE VALUES AROUND 1000 J/KG.
SCATTERED LIGHT SHOWERS CONTINUE TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE OVER
THE COASTAL BEND...WITH KCRP RADAR LOOP SHOWING SOME STRONGER
CELLS FORMING TO THE SOUTH OF BAFFIN BAY MOVING NORTHWARD.

STAGE IS SET FOR HEAVY RAIN EVENT OCCURRING LATE TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY
OVER THE COASTAL PLAINS. MODELS CONTINUE TO BE SIMILAR WITH THE TRACK
AND TIMING OF THE MID/UPPER LEVEL SHORT WAVE TROUGH...JUST WEST OF
EL PASO THIS AFTERNOON...MOVING EAST-SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE BIG BEND
TONIGHT AND INTO SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS ON FRIDAY. LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE
WILL BE MAXIMIZED ALONG THE COAST IN ADVANCE OF A DEVELOPING SURFACE
LOW PRESSURE AREA NEAR THE RIO GRANDE THAT MOVES ACROSS THE COASTAL
BEND FRIDAY. GFS/NAM/ECMWF/UKMET/SREF ALL SHOW IMPRESSIVE UPPER
LEVEL DIVERGENCE DEVELOPING OVER THE COASTAL BEND BY 12Z FRIDAY
AS THE 90 KNOT SUBTROPICAL JET MOVES ACROSS NORTHEAST MEXICO AND A
POLAR JET STREAK LIFTS OUT OF NORTHEAST TEXAS. THIS COUPLED JET
STRUCTURE LEADS TO LARGE OMEGA FIELD OVER THE MIDDLE/UPPER TEXAS
COAST THROUGH THE DAY FRIDAY. ISSUED A FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR THE
PORTION OF SOUTH TEXAS NORTHEAST OF A LINE FROM CORPUS CHRISTI TO
BEEVILLE. RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER
THE WATCH AREA WITH ISOLATED AMOUNTS UP TO 6 INCHES MAINLY OVER
THE MID COAST REGION.

ISOLATED THREAT FOR SEVERE STORMS WILL EXIST LATE TONIGHT INTO
FRIDAY MORNING. LOW LEVEL SHEAR/HELICITY WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE
IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW PRESSURE AREA WHILE MODELS SHOW INSTABILITY
LINGERING FROM 1000-1500 J/KG. UNCERTAINTY WITH TIMING INHIBITS
MENTIONING SEVERE IN ZONE FORECAST...BUT WILL BE SOMETHING FOR
LATER SHIFTS TO MONITOR.

THE SURFACE LOW WILL MOVE INTO THE COASTAL WATERS BY LATE FRIDAY
AFTERNOON WITH HEAVY RAIN THREAT DIMINISHING FROM WEST TO EAST
IN THIS TIME FRAME. BUT WITH THE WRAPAROUND MOISTURE/INSTABILITY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW MOVING BY THE MID COAST REGION...WILL
HOLD ONTO POPS OVER THE NORTHEAST THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS FRIDAY
NIGHT.

&&

.LONG TERM (SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY)...THE MID LVL TROUGH WILL BE
EXITING THE REGION SATURDAY WITH CLEARING SKIES AND WEAK SFC HIGH
PRESSURE REMAINING. ECMWF/CANADIAN/NOGAPS PROG ANOTHER STRONG TROUGH
AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT TO ADVANCE INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS
MONDAY...REACHING THE COAST TUESDAY MORNING. (DISCARDED THE GFS
SOLUTION WHICH IS MUCH WEAKER WITH THIS TROUGH AND NEVER BRINGS A
FRONT...THUS KEEPING US IN THE WARM SECTOR UNTIL WED NGT.) MODERATE
MOISTURE RETURN IN ADVANCE OF THIS SYSTEM COMBINED WITH FORCING
ALONG THE MID LVL TROUGH AXIS WILL RESULT IN MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES
WITH A CHANCE OF SH/TSRA. THE FRONT STALLS OVER THE COASTAL WATERS
AND AWAITS A SECONDARY SURGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WED NIGHT AS ANOTHER
TROUGH AND COLD SFC RIDGE DIVES INTO THE MID SOUTH. A SWLY FLOW
ALOFT (SUBTROPICAL JET) WILL KEEP M/C SKIES IN PLACE OVER MOST OF
SOUTH TEXAS THROUGH THE HOLIDAY PERIOD.

&&
p451 its old heres the new one
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ESL by LSU
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564. P451
And...here we go.

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX
631 AM CST THU NOV 19 2009

...WIDESPREAD THUNDERSTORMS WITH LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL EXPECTED LATE
TONIGHT AND FRIDAY...

A VIGOROUS UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL APPROACH SOUTH TEXAS
FROM THE WEST TONIGHT. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THIS
EVENING WILL BECOME WIDESPREAD AFTER MIDNIGHT AS THE SYSTEM APPROACHES
AND A SURFACE LOW DEVELOPS ACROSS THE COASTAL PLAINS. ISOLATED STRONG
THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE AND THERE IS A VERY LOW POTENTIAL
FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH THIS ACTIVITY...HOWEVER THE MAIN THREAT
WITH THESE STORMS WILL BE FROM HEAVY RAINFALL.

HEAVIER SHOWERS AND STORMS LATE TONIGHT AND FRIDAY WILL HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SEVERAL INCHES OF RAINFALL IN A SHORT PERIOD
OF TIME. THIS WILL AT LEAST PROVIDE A THREAT FOR LOCALIZED FLOODING
ACROSS THE COASTAL BEND AND THE SOUTH TEXAS COASTAL PLAINS. RAINFALL
TOTALS ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 37 ARE EXPECTED TO AVERAGE AROUND 3
TO 4 INCHES WITH ISOLATED AMOUNTS AROUND 6 INCHES POSSIBLE. RAINFALL
AMOUNTS WEST OF INTERSTATE 37 ARE FORECAST TO RANGE BETWEEN 1/2
INCH AND 2 INCHES....HOWEVER ISOLATED TOTALS OF 3 TO 4 INCHES WILL
BE POSSIBLE MAINLY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE BRUSH COUNTRY AND
INLAND COASTAL PLAINS BETWEEN HIGHWAY 16 AND INTERSTATE 37.
THUNDERSTORMS AND THE THREAT FOR HEAVY RAINFALL WILL END FROM WEST
TO EAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
PROGRESSES INTO EAST TEXAS.

===
5-Day QPF Totals

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Quoting NRAamy:
thanks Junky...never thought I'd say that....

;)


No problem...
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Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans la
320 PM CST Thursday Nov 19 2009


Short term...
mild conditions to continue one more day with a gradual increase
in low level moisture to impart warmer temperatures next 24 hours
or so. Models continue to show consensus on developing a west Gulf
low pressure system Friday as upper level trough advances in southern
branch flow across Texas towards the west Gulf. Models do differ
somewhat on track through forecast area with some suggesting the
center of circulation moving onshore and placing the missisippi
counties and lower southeast Louisiana parishes briefly in the
warm sector...while others continue to keep land areas on the
cooler side of the low. Will maintain continuity of forecast with
track just along the coast or across the near coastal waters. Bulk
of sensible weather should take place after midnight Friday
through about noon Saturday with thunder limited to marine areas
and perhaps the near coastal parishes. Models have seemed to
soften the gradient somewhat ahead of the system but an increase
to moderate easterly flow is expected for some duration Friday
night and early Saturday. Severe weather not anticipated over land
areas though marine zones may experience squall line activity in
advance of the low's passage. There will be a surge component to
tides with the greater run-up likely to take place during the
astronomical low tides. No coastal flood statements will be issued
due to expected minimal impacts but an increase in waters levels
may be noted through Saturday late morning/early afternoon before
returning to normal levels Saturday night.

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thanks Junky...never thought I'd say that....

;)
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well, this is interesting....

Breaking News Story: Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released

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The Western GOM Low will form the next 24 hrs then move east

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Quoting NEwxguy:
When there are no tropical systems around,the mind or should I say blog wanders all over the place.
LST,hang in there,waiting is the worst,but it'll be over before you know it.I'll be leaving soon,but will try to check in tonight,but if not tomorrow.


Thanks, NE. Four years ago, Flood waited for me through a much longer surgery - over 5 hours - so I owe him. Not that I wouldn't do it, anyway. I'll post an update just as soon as I talk to the doctor. Shouldn't be too much longer, now. :)
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Amy,
Point taken, and amended (with one m).


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Awake. You Torture me! I am spouse-less these days, and my attempt at dinner last night was an ecological disaster of the 12th kind.
Perhaps the oven was too hot? Or the timer was set too long? Whatever it was, roasted charcoal would of tasted better.
Bummer! And, yes, I am quite handy around the fire. Usually!
Please send a portion of meatloaf my way. Thanks.
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Quoting btwntx08:
ok all please mail at once to tell u something


dude, you're not making sense today. What's with the poor grammar and sentence structure? It's hard to understand what points you're trying to make. From what I have read so far I am guessing you are the treasurer for a new website to compete with WU?? Good luck with that...I agree this blog gets hijacked from time to time but it's gonna be hard to steal the marketshare this site has as an overall weather resource to bloggers and non-bloggers alike.
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When there are no tropical systems around,the mind or should I say blog wanders all over the place.
LST,hang in there,waiting is the worst,but it'll be over before you know it.I'll be leaving soon,but will try to check in tonight,but if not tomorrow.
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junky...I never threaten anyone with a gun....please ammend that, ok? People have been banned from WU for threatening that before.

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Quoting NRAamy:
Quoting btwntx08:
ok bloggers i know someone in here is trying to take away our votes for severestormstrike and that there is wrong u all think she's gonna listen to u and second don't listen to her.last of all she been ban lots of times and don't think she has change cause she hasn't
dont like the hippo either so i advice u all to change your minds and think before voting for that person so all with that i would most advice u to vote for severestormstrike and we are gonna make wu much better then it is now.

thanks
severestormstrike's tresurer btwntx08




you wanna take this outside?


Watch it dude, she'll clock you, sit on you and if all else fails she'll finish you off with her sling shot.
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Quoting Grothar:


Say Good Night, Gracie!!!!


Oh, my Hero!

The meatloaf awaits; needs to be properly meteorologically calibrated and configured for optimal atmospheric conditions, including but not limited to, heat, humidity, and altitude.

and canines like it, too.

See you all later, will check back for Mr. & Mrs. Flood reports.

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547. LMAO...i heard that! rum is supposed to be a good degreaser :)
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*Good grief, I hate waiting!!!*

Hello, all...no news as yet...just bored outta my gourd.
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ok all please mail at once to tell u something
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Pearland, 527.
OK. But it will take a while you know. I dont know who started the rumour that I am partial to heavy consumption of you-know-what (I have my suspicions tho).LOL
But, lets just say, that my heart is in good shape, and recent research in Spain verifies that the stuff is good for mens hearts!
( May destroy kidneys, livers, brains, other organs. But what the...?)
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537. I for one would not mess with the dancing Purple Hippo.

Silver Spring, MD
Thursday
58° F | 49° F
T-storms
90% chance of precipitation

Feels like: Clammy Yucky
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

So You Think You Can Forecast?????


I'm SOOOO confused!
Where's Grothar to tell me "Good Night, Gracie."


Say Good Night, Gracie!!!!
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Quoting SQUAWK:


Well, maybe not so much. If it were not for his extreme rhetoric and media blitz, I have the feeling that the other side would not have gone so far out to rebuke his claims. Extremism begets extremism.


Unfortunately in today's media world there will always be at least one extremist who gets on the air. Thus the door is open for the other side, be it GW, politics, religion, best cars makers, etc. Maybe he's planning to write shows for the History Channel soon (read: Armageddon Channel).

As an aside, looking at that map, wonder if my little plot of Florida land will become waterfront property!
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Me too kid.
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539 keep it serect :)
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thanks ic...
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
529. i wasn't...unfortunately. i should have gone, but the world was quite different from today when i was the appropriate age...


That comment was typical of Naval Aviation in my years there. That is why I asked.
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My money is on you, Amy :)
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Quoting tornadodude:
what is the voting for???

So You Think You Can Forecast?????

Quoting pearlandaggie:
533. obviously i don't...

I'm SOOOO confused!
Where's Grothar to tell me "Good Night, Gracie."
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Quoting btwntx08:
ok bloggers i know someone in here is trying to take away our votes for severestormstrike and that there is wrong u all think she's gonna listen to u and second don't listen to her.last of all she been ban lots of times and don't think she has change cause she hasn't
dont like the hippo either so i advice u all to change your minds and think before voting for that person so all with that i would most advice u to vote for severestormstrike and we are gonna make wu much better then it is now.

thanks
severestormstrike's tresurer btwntx08




you wanna take this outside?
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

Squawk, is this something I need a language interpreter for, or may I just go ahead and make the meatloaf I was planning for dinner?


I think the meatloaf idea is a safe bet. LOL
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.