Typhoon Ketsana hits Vietnam; death toll in Philippines swells to 246

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:37 PM GMT on September 29, 2009

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Typhoon Ketsana slammed into Vietnam this morning as a Category 2 typhoon with 105 mph winds. Ketsana brought sustained winds of 55 mph, gusting to 71 mph to Da Nang Vietnam. Heavy rainfall amounts of 7.2" and 9.1" were observed at Da Nang, and Hue, respectively, over the past two days. Floods and landslides in Vietnam from Ketsana's heavy rains have already claimed at least 22 lives.


Figure 1. Cars being swept away by Ketsana's flood waters in Manila's Park 9 Alley, where the Barangay Hall of Loyola Heights is located. Image credit: Manuel Quezon III.

The death toll in the Philippines from Ketsana continues to rise, with 284 dead or missing. The storm flooded the homes of 1.9 million people, leaving 350,000 people homeless. Ketsana brought 16.7 inches of rain in a twelve-hour period to Manila on Saturday, which was the heaviest 1-day rainfall ever recorded in the city. Ketsana is the third deadliest deadliest tropical cyclone to affect the globe so far this year. The deadliest was Typhoon Morakot, which left 654 people dead or missing on Taiwan, when it hit the island as a Category 2 typhoon on August 7. The second deadliest was Cyclone Aila, which made landfall near the India/Bangladesh border on May 25 as a tropical storm with 70 mph winds. Aila killed at least 339 people, 149 in India and 190 in Bangladesh.

The Philippines have three more tropical cyclones to their east to keep an eye on. So far, none of these storms appear to pose a major threat. Tropical Storm Parma is expected to curve to the northwest and miss the islands, Tropical Depression 18 is expected to dissipate, and newly-formed Tropical Depression 20 will probably pass to the north of the islands.


Figure 2. Rainfall from Tropical Storm Ketsana as estimated by NASA's TRMM satellite. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

How to help Ketsana victims
Help the UN World Food Programme by making a donation. This program identifies families in specific need of aid. Just $18 provides a family with rice for two weeks. This is the most critical and immediate way you can make an impact.

Donate to the International Red Cross and help them continue to put relief workers on the ground in the Philippines.

Donate via Catholic Relief Services online of the Philippines or call 1-877-HELP-CRS.

Quiet in the Atlantic
None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm formation in the Atlantic over the next seven days. Wind shear is predicted to be high in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean this week, limiting the potential for anything to affect land.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting gbTracker:
Dumb question....Which direction does a typhoon spin?


Which side of the equator?
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BTW - Don't think that just because of a large distance you are safe... They travel great distances in the Ocean.

Take a look at this:

In April 1946, at Hilo in Hawaii, a wave that had traveled all the way from Alaska, a good 2,500 miles, struck and left several dead and property worth millions destroyed
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Oh for gods sake.. semantics

A swell, in the context of an ocean, sea or lake, is a formation of long-wavelength surface waves. Swells are far more stable in their directions ..
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Thanks, Floodman, for the quick answer!
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actully...it isn't a wave until it comes ashore...
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Quoting Greyelf:
Because of the numerous storms in the Pacific, how might the waves of a tsunami affect them?


We had this question earlier this season and the answer is not much; the tsunami moves the entire water column and not much mixing occurs until the wave is close to shore
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Tsunami Warning Buoy



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I noticed in the D.A.R.T. animation that Orcasystems posted, in order to accurately detect a Tsunami there had to be a sensor on the ocean floor...
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actully Orca..my statement is not wrong...but thanks for sharing...
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Because of the numerous storms in the Pacific, how might the waves of a tsunami affect them?
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Quoting SQUAWK:

They don't actually create waves but do create a swell that can be measured by the buoys and by satellite. The ocean depth actually increases when a tsunami passes by. That is why the have those buoys out there just for that purpose.

Exactly...it isn't, by definition, wave action...
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Quoting presslord:



.sorry...I don't do passive aggressive real well...Do you have a point?


Ok.. Tsunami's do create offshore wave action, your statement is wrong.
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the graphic you posted shows subsurface disturbance...not wave action...
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Press - Why would the Communist News Network report that?
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REUTERS:18 min ago
Samoa tsunami causes deaths after undersea quake


WASHINGTON, September 29 – A powerful 8.0 magnitude earthquake in the Pacific off the Samoa islands region generated a tsunami and waves of more than 5ft, U.S. government agencies said on Tuesday.

An official of the US National Park Service said there had been deaths in American Samoa, but there was no word on how many people had died.

A tsunami was observed at Apia, Western Samoa, and at Pago Pago, American Samoa, according to the West Coast/Alaska Tsunami Warning Center, a branch of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The waves at Pago Pago were 5.1 feet (1.57 metres) above normal sea level, according to the Pacific Western Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii. The centre earlier issued a tsunami warning for New Zealand, American Samoa and other small Pacific islands. American Samoa is a tiny US territory that lies about halfway between Hawaii and New Zealand. It is home to about 65,000 people.

Holly Bundock, spokeswoman for the National Park Service’s Pacific West Region in Oakland California, said: “I would say we’re alarmed,” adding that the service had heard from Mike Reynolds, superintendent of the National Park of American Samoa. Reynolds told a Yellowstone dispatch operator that four tsunami waves, each 15ft-20ft high, reaching half-mile to a mile inland on island of Tutuila, where Pago Pago is.

“The National Park of American Samoa visitor centre and its offices appear to be destroyed completely,” Bundock said. Mr Reynolds reported deaths but had no confirmation of numbers, she said. “He’s completely cut off from the rest of the island,” Bundock said.

In the island nation of Western Samoa, some residents told Radio New Zealand they had felt a big jolt and were recommended by authorities to move to higher ground. “Sea level readings indicate a tsunami was generated. It may have been destructive along coasts near the earthquake epicenter and could also be a threat to more distant coasts,” the Pacific warning center said.

Nathan Becker, an official at the center, told MSNBC a tsunami wave can dissipate or grow larger and go all the way across the ocean. “This is why we’ve issued a warning for a wide area,” he said.

The epicentre of the quake was located 120 miles south-west of American Samoa, a remote Pacific island, the U.S. Geological Survey. The USGS had earlier said the quake measured 7.9 magnitude. It struck at a depth of 11.2 miles.

Hawaii was monitoring the situation. CNN said that if a tsunami hit Hawaii, it would arrive in the early evening local time.

Chevron said it was monitoring the tsunami threat to Hawaii, where the company has a 54,000 barrel per day refinery near Honolulu. “We are currently monitoring the situation via updates provided by local authorities,” said Chevron spokesman Sean Comey.”

Tesoro Corp did not immediately reply to messages about its 93,500 bpd refinery at Ewa Beach, also on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. Both refineries provide jet fuel to commercial airlines and the US military complex at Pearl Harbor as well motor fuels.
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Quoting Dakster:


Roger that..

Just watch the video for the Indian Tsunami. You can't really see the wave come on shore until it is too late.

That is why I was almost going to question the buoy height alarm the Tsunami warning was quoting...

They don't actually create waves but do create a swell that can be measured by the buoys and by satellite. The ocean depth actually increases when a tsunami passes by. That is why the have those buoys out there just for that purpose.
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Quoting Orcasystems:


You might want to review that response.

Link



.sorry...I don't do passive aggressive real well...Do you have a point?
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I have had CNN on for 20 mins here in my office...not a word on earthquake/tsunami...
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Quoting presslord:


tsunami don't create offshore wave action


You might want to review that response.

Link

Link 2
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Orca - Let us know if you get any wave action tonight. (from the Tsunami)
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ESTIMATED INITIAL TSUNAMI WAVE ARRIVAL TIMES AT FORECAST POINTS
WITHIN THE WARNING AND WATCH AREAS ARE GIVEN BELOW. ACTUAL
ARRIVAL TIMES MAY DIFFER AND THE INITIAL WAVE MAY NOT BE THE
LARGEST. A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF WAVES AND THE TIME BETWEEN
SUCCESSIVE WAVES CAN BE FIVE MINUTES TO ONE HOUR.

LOCATION FORECAST POINT COORDINATES ARRIVAL TIME
-------------------------------- ------------ ------------
AMERICAN SAMOA PAGO PAGO 14.3S 170.7W 1759Z 29 SEP
SAMOA APIA 13.8S 171.8W 1810Z 29 SEP
NIUE NIUE IS. 19.0S 170.0W 1822Z 29 SEP
WALLIS-FUTUNA WALLIS IS. 13.2S 176.2W 1835Z 29 SEP
TOKELAU NUKUNONU IS. 9.2S 171.8W 1844Z 29 SEP
COOK ISLANDS PUKAPUKA IS. 10.8S 165.9W 1846Z 29 SEP
RAROTONGA 21.2S 159.8W 1929Z 29 SEP
PENRYN IS. 8.9S 157.8W 1954Z 29 SEP
TONGA NUKUALOFA 21.0S 175.2W 1851Z 29 SEP
TUVALU FUNAFUTI IS. 7.9S 178.5E 1932Z 29 SEP
KIRIBATI KANTON IS. 2.8S 171.7W 1935Z 29 SEP
FLINT IS. 11.4S 151.8W 2025Z 29 SEP
MALDEN IS. 3.9S 154.9W 2037Z 29 SEP
CHRISTMAS IS. 2.0N 157.5W 2100Z 29 SEP
TARAWA IS. 1.5N 173.0E 2104Z 29 SEP
KERMADEC IS RAOUL IS. 29.2S 177.9W 1938Z 29 SEP
FIJI SUVA 18.1S 178.4E 2003Z 29 SEP
HOWLAND-BAKER HOWLAND IS. 0.6N 176.6W 2008Z 29 SEP
JARVIS IS. JARVIS IS. 0.4S 160.1W 2028Z 29 SEP
NEW ZEALAND EAST CAPE 37.7S 178.5E 2044Z 29 SEP
GISBORNE 38.7S 178.0E 2100Z 29 SEP
NORTH CAPE 34.4S 173.3E 2112Z 29 SEP
NAPIER 39.5S 176.9E 2140Z 29 SEP
WELLINGTON 41.3S 174.8E 2150Z 29 SEP
AUCKLAND(E) 36.7S 175.0E 2212Z 29 SEP
AUCKLAND(W) 37.1S 174.2E 2239Z 29 SEP
LYTTELTON 43.6S 172.7E 2255Z 29 SEP
NEW PLYMOUTH 39.1S 174.1E 2317Z 29 SEP
NELSON 41.3S 173.3E 2323Z 29 SEP
DUNEDIN 45.9S 170.5E 2331Z 29 SEP
MILFORD SOUND 44.6S 167.9E 2358Z 29 SEP
WESTPORT 41.8S 171.6E 2359Z 29 SEP
BLUFF 46.6S 168.3E 0044Z 30 SEP
FR. POLYNESIA PAPEETE 17.5S 149.6W 2045Z 29 SEP
HIVA OA 10.0S 139.0W 2214Z 29 SEP
RIKITEA 23.1S 135.0W 2247Z 29 SEP
PALMYRA IS. PALMYRA IS. 6.3N 162.4W 2102Z 29 SEP
VANUATU ANATOM IS. 20.2S 169.9E 2117Z 29 SEP
ESPERITU SANTO 15.1S 167.3E 2123Z 29 SEP
NAURU NAURU 0.5S 166.9E 2138Z 29 SEP
MARSHALL IS. MAJURO 7.1N 171.4E 2147Z 29 SEP
KWAJALEIN 8.7N 167.7E 2220Z 29 SEP
ENIWETOK 11.4N 162.3E 2309Z 29 SEP
SOLOMON IS. KIRAKIRA 10.4S 161.9E 2155Z 29 SEP
GHATERE 7.8S 159.2E 2227Z 29 SEP
AUKI 8.8S 160.6E 2244Z 29 SEP
HONIARA 9.3S 160.0E 2244Z 29 SEP
PANGGOE 6.9S 157.2E 2245Z 29 SEP
MUNDA 8.4S 157.2E 2248Z 29 SEP
FALAMAE 7.4S 155.6E 2304Z 29 SEP
JOHNSTON IS. JOHNSTON IS. 16.7N 169.5W 2212Z 29 SEP
NEW CALEDONIA NOUMEA 22.3S 166.5E 2216Z 29 SEP
KOSRAE KOSRAE IS. 5.5N 163.0E 2233Z 29 SEP
PAPUA NEW GUINE KIETA 6.1S 155.6E 2303Z 29 SEP
AMUN 6.0S 154.7E 2323Z 29 SEP
RABAUL 4.2S 152.3E 2349Z 29 SEP
LAE 6.8S 147.0E 0015Z 30 SEP
KAVIENG 2.5S 150.7E 0016Z 30 SEP
PORT MORESBY 9.3S 146.9E 0039Z 30 SEP
MADANG 5.2S 145.8E 0041Z 30 SEP
MANUS IS. 2.0S 147.5E 0050Z 30 SEP
WEWAK 3.5S 143.6E 0124Z 30 SEP
VANIMO 2.6S 141.3E 0134Z 30 SEP
POHNPEI POHNPEI IS. 7.0N 158.2E 2318Z 29 SEP
WAKE IS. WAKE IS. 19.3N 166.6E 2322Z 29 SEP
PITCAIRN PITCAIRN IS. 25.1S 130.1W 2329Z 29 SEP
MIDWAY IS. MIDWAY IS. 28.2N 177.4W 2349Z 29 SEP
CHUUK CHUUK IS. 7.4N 151.8E 0020Z 30 SEP
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE 27.2S 153.3E 0036Z 30 SEP
SYDNEY 33.9S 151.4E 0038Z 30 SEP
HOBART 43.3S 147.6E 0120Z 30 SEP
CAIRNS 16.7S 145.8E 0123Z 30 SEP
GLADSTONE 23.8S 151.4E 0212Z 30 SEP
MARCUS IS. MARCUS IS. 24.3N 154.0E 0058Z 30 SEP
N. MARIANAS SAIPAN 15.3N 145.8E 0110Z 30 SEP
GUAM GUAM 13.4N 144.7E 0118Z 30 SEP
INDONESIA JAYAPURA 2.4S 140.8E 0138Z 30 SEP
WARSA 0.6S 135.8E 0221Z 30 SEP
ANTARCTICA CAPE ADARE 71.0S 170.0E 0149Z 30 SEP
YAP YAP IS. 9.5N 138.1E 0159Z 30 SEP

It won't get to Guam until 9:18 PM EDT, if anything were to reach that far.
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Dumb question....Which dirrection does a typhoon spin?
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Tsunami 'Deaths' After Earthquake In Pacific
Breaking News


9:14pm UK, Tuesday September 29, 2009
Deaths have been reported after a tsunami hit the island of American Samoa following an earthquake in the Pacific Ocean.

Sky News: First For Breaking News

The quake measured 8.0 on the Richter scale.

Stuart Weinstein from the Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre told Sky News a two-metre high wave had struck the capital Pago Pago.

He also said the size of it was "potentially destructive".

The centre in Honolulu, Hawaii, issued a tsunami warning for American Samoa and other areas of the Pacific, including New Zealand.

A tsunami watch was posted elsewhere, including Hawaii and the Marshall Islands.

The quake happened at 6:48am (local time) halfway between Samoa and American Samoa.

In the Samoan capital Apia, families fled their homes for higher ground.

There were reports of severe shaking that lasted for up to three minutes.

New Zealander Graeme Ansell said the beach village of Sau Sau Beach Fale had been levelled.

The epicenter of the quake was located 120 miles southwest of American Samoa and at a depth of 11.2 miles, said the US Geological Survey.
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Quoting presslord:


tsunami don't create offshore wave action


Roger that..

Just watch the video for the Indian Tsunami. You can't really see the wave come on shore until it is too late.

That is why I was almost going to question the buoy height alarm the Tsunami warning was quoting...
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Quoting jeffs713:

That is exactly what I meant. From what I recall reading in the aftermath of the Indonesian quake, the biggest anticipated delay is getting the info from the media to the people. Getting it from the authorities to the media has been worked out, for the most part.


The problem with their system.. or should I say lack of one.. is who do you call (no ghostbuster jokes please). The Pacific one is generated automatically, and the distribution system is setup so it actually goes directly to the elope who make the decisions.

When I was with OPSCENPAC, I knew exactly who to call when they arrived.

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Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
and the arizona memorial what awe aspiring experience. sqawk the only reason i asked jfvk are whatever he goes by now is because last year all he could post on here in between showers was about his pregnant fiancee. i was just curious he has not mentioned either one once this year. all of a sudden its private, and i have not seen anybody since norman bates as obsessed with showers and shower curtains like he is lol.


Now that is a connection that I had not made. Works for me. Creepy.
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;)

just yankin' yer chains....
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Quoting presslord:


tsunami don't create offshore wave action


Exactly, it would be a little spike if any on the graph, Plus the spike could be a rogue wave or just a bigger wave moving through the ocean.
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Quoting NRAamy:
what have I missed?

:)

A bunch!! LOL :)
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NRAamy - A tsunami in the Pacific....
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and the arizona memorial what awe aspiring experience. sqawk the only reason i asked jfvk are whatever he goes by now is because last year all he could post on here in between showers was about his pregnant fiancee. i was just curious he has not mentioned either one once this year. all of a sudden its private, and i have not seen anybody since norman bates as obsessed with showers and shower curtains like he is lol.
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Quoting timtrice:


A buoy between Guam and Samoa has not recorded any significant wave action so I'd be cautious about those kind of news reports.

Link


tsunami don't create offshore wave action
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Quoting Orcasystems:


The Tsunami warning system in the Pacific basin is light years ahead of the rest of the world. I can guarantee that all of the appropriate country have been warned and messages sent already.

They go out with a military FLASH classification.


That is exactly what I meant. From what I recall reading in the aftermath of the Indonesian quake, the biggest anticipated delay is getting the info from the media to the people. Getting it from the authorities to the media has been worked out, for the most part.
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what have I missed?

:)
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Quoting jeffs713:
“Our staff is all accounted for. Many of our automobiles are not.”

That is the power of mother nature for you.


So thats what the toyota was from.
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Lookout Orcasystems!
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Quoting koneofdeath:
Reports are already coming in on tsunmai damage guam and another Island they said "all buildings were leveled".


A buoy between Guam and Samoa has not recorded any significant wave action so I'd be cautious about those kind of news reports.

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Quoting jeffs713:

Why isn't FEMA there yet? (sorry, had to get it out of the way)

Anywho, lets hope that many of the valuable lessons learnt after the Indonesian quake of 2004 are applied in the recovery effort for this quake. Hopefully, the loss of life is minimal. Property can be replaced, people can't.


The Tsunami warning system in the Pacific basin is light years ahead of the rest of the world. I can guarantee that all of the appropriate country's have been warned and messages sent already.

They go out with a military FLASH classification.

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BULLETIN
TSUNAMI MESSAGE NUMBER 3
NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER EWA BEACH HI
1023 AM HST TUE SEP 29 2009

TO - CIVIL DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF HAWAII

SUBJECT - TSUNAMI WATCH CANCELLATION...TSUNAMI ADVISORY IN
EFFECT

THE TSUNAMI WATCH IS CANCELLED FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII EFFECTIVE
AT 1023 AM HST AND A TSUNAMI ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 0748 AM HST 29 SEP 2009
COORDINATES - 15.3 SOUTH 171.0 WEST
LOCATION - SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAGNITUDE - 8.3 MOMENT
MAGNITUDE - 8.0 RICHTER (MS)

MEASUREMENTS OR REPORTS OF TSUNAMI WAVE ACTIVITY

GAUGE LOCATION LAT LON TIME AMPL PER
------------------- ----- ------ ----- --------------- -----
RAROTONGA CK 21.2S 159.8W 1951Z 0.47M / 1.5FT 08MIN
APIA UPOLU WS 13.8S 171.8W 1832Z 0.70M / 2.3FT 08MIN
PAGO PAGO AS 14.3S 170.7W 1812Z 1.57M / 5.1FT 04MIN

LAT - LATITUDE (N-NORTH, S-SOUTH)
LON - LONGITUDE (E-EAST, W-WEST)
TIME - TIME OF THE MEASUREMENT (Z IS UTC IS GREENWICH TIME)
AMPL - TSUNAMI AMPLITUDE MEASURED RELATIVE TO NORMAL SEA LEVEL.
IT IS ...NOT... CREST-TO-TROUGH WAVE HEIGHT.
VALUES ARE GIVEN IN BOTH METERS(M) AND FEET(FT).
PER - PERIOD OF TIME IN MINUTES(MIN) FROM ONE WAVE TO THE NEXT.

EVALUATION

BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE DATA A MAJOR TSUNAMI IS NOT EXPECTED
TO STRIKE THE STATE OF HAWAII. HOWEVER SEA LEVEL CHANGES AND
STRONG CURRENTS MAY OCCUR ALONG THE COAST THAT COULD BE A
HAZARD TO SWIMMERS...BOATERS AND BEACHES. THEREFORE THE
TSUNAMI WATCH FOR HAWAII IS CANCELLED BUT A TSUNAMI ADVISORY
IS IN EFFECT.
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Quoting Orcasystems:


Wait for it.. in about 30 minutes people will start asking why FEMA isn't there yet.?

Why isn't FEMA there yet? (sorry, had to get it out of the way)

Anywho, lets hope that many of the valuable lessons learned after the Indonesian quake of 2004 are applied in the recovery effort for this quake. Hopefully, the loss of life is minimal. Property can be replaced, people can't.
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“Our staff is all accounted for. Many of our automobiles are not.”

That is the power of mother nature for you.
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Quoting presslord:


The National Congressional Medal of Honor Museum is in Charleston aboard the USS Yorktown...if you can tour it without welling up, you're dead...


Yup.
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Quoting PcolaDan:


Cummings said that the stations were able to activate the EAS system and to get two warnings out to the public before the tsunami hit.

Larry Fuss, president of South Seas Broadcasting, relayed a similar message to Harnack.

“We were able to air the tsunami warning several times before it hit. Power went off shortly thereafter. The generator for the studio is in the parking lot, which is under 15 feet of water, so we're now off air until we figure out an alternate power source,” Fuss wrote. “Our staff is all accounted for. Many of our automobiles are not.”


Wait for it.. in about 30 minutes people will start asking why FEMA isn't there yet.?
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Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
if anyone gets a chance go to the wwII museum in new orleans or the naval air station pensacola they have a lot of great exhibits.and my favorite a very large variety of exhibits and artifacts from the greatest generation.


The National Congressional Medal of Honor Museum is in Charleston aboard the USS Yorktown...if you can tour it without welling up, you're dead...
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275.

FANTASTIC. Well done, SQUAWK!
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Reports are already coming in on tsunmai damage guam and another Island they said "all buildings were leveled".
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Quoting Bordonaro:


May God bless you all and help you through this tragedy. My question is this to the US Government officals,

"WHY WERE THE PEOPLE NOT WARNED OF A TSUNAMI RISK"??


Cummings said that the stations were able to activate the EAS system and to get two warnings out to the public before the tsunami hit.

Larry Fuss, president of South Seas Broadcasting, relayed a similar message to Harnack.

“We were able to air the tsunami warning several times before it hit. Power went off shortly thereafter. The generator for the studio is in the parking lot, which is under 15 feet of water, so we're now off air until we figure out an alternate power source,” Fuss wrote. “Our staff is all accounted for. Many of our automobiles are not.”
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ROFLROFLROFL I like to reain neutral on personal matters, but I fully can go along with what your saying......

AND IM 12
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WELLINGTON, Sept 30 (Reuters) - A South Pacific tsunami killed an unknown number of people in Western Samoa on Wednesday, a local police spokeswoman said, as the island nation's people fled to higher ground after a big sub-sea quake.

"The tsunami has struck some parts of the country," a local police spokeswoman said by phone. Asked if there had been any deaths, she added: "Yes" and then hung up.

The epicenter of the 8.0 magnitude quake was located 120 miles (190 km) southwest of American Samoa, which lies near Western Samoa, the U.S. Geological Survey said. (Reporting by Adrian Bathgate, editing by Mark Bendeich)

Oh man, I hope this doesn't turn into another Sri Lanka incident
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Quoting F5Tornado:
You are right, 300 mph+ is the speed over water but like I said, as the waves approach shore, they biulkd and slow to just 20mph. look at a few Utube vedios, youll see how slow they move, thats because (I don';t know everything, so I am theorizing) the friction generated and the water not being able to go anywhere causes the wave to biuld in height.


It is friction, but as the land slope up near shore the front of the wave slows down and the back it still traveling faster. so you'll have a huge force or push on the front of the wave causing it to rise. If you think about it usually a couple of miles of water can cause huge forces on the front of the wave.
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253. WeatherStudent 3:52 PM EDT on September 29, 2009

Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
if anyone gets a chance go to the wwII museum in new orleans or the naval air station pensacola they have a lot of great exhibits.and my favorite a very large variety of exhibits and artifacts from the greatest generation.


Hit me up with a private, and I'll let you know how they both are doing.

How about we just hit you in the privates and then you can tell us how you are doing.
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