Typhoon Ketsana hits Vietnam; death toll in Philippines swells to 246

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:37 PM GMT on September 29, 2009

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Typhoon Ketsana slammed into Vietnam this morning as a Category 2 typhoon with 105 mph winds. Ketsana brought sustained winds of 55 mph, gusting to 71 mph to Da Nang Vietnam. Heavy rainfall amounts of 7.2" and 9.1" were observed at Da Nang, and Hue, respectively, over the past two days. Floods and landslides in Vietnam from Ketsana's heavy rains have already claimed at least 22 lives.


Figure 1. Cars being swept away by Ketsana's flood waters in Manila's Park 9 Alley, where the Barangay Hall of Loyola Heights is located. Image credit: Manuel Quezon III.

The death toll in the Philippines from Ketsana continues to rise, with 284 dead or missing. The storm flooded the homes of 1.9 million people, leaving 350,000 people homeless. Ketsana brought 16.7 inches of rain in a twelve-hour period to Manila on Saturday, which was the heaviest 1-day rainfall ever recorded in the city. Ketsana is the third deadliest deadliest tropical cyclone to affect the globe so far this year. The deadliest was Typhoon Morakot, which left 654 people dead or missing on Taiwan, when it hit the island as a Category 2 typhoon on August 7. The second deadliest was Cyclone Aila, which made landfall near the India/Bangladesh border on May 25 as a tropical storm with 70 mph winds. Aila killed at least 339 people, 149 in India and 190 in Bangladesh.

The Philippines have three more tropical cyclones to their east to keep an eye on. So far, none of these storms appear to pose a major threat. Tropical Storm Parma is expected to curve to the northwest and miss the islands, Tropical Depression 18 is expected to dissipate, and newly-formed Tropical Depression 20 will probably pass to the north of the islands.


Figure 2. Rainfall from Tropical Storm Ketsana as estimated by NASA's TRMM satellite. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

How to help Ketsana victims
Help the UN World Food Programme by making a donation. This program identifies families in specific need of aid. Just $18 provides a family with rice for two weeks. This is the most critical and immediate way you can make an impact.

Donate to the International Red Cross and help them continue to put relief workers on the ground in the Philippines.

Donate via Catholic Relief Services online of the Philippines or call 1-877-HELP-CRS.

Quiet in the Atlantic
None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm formation in the Atlantic over the next seven days. Wind shear is predicted to be high in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean this week, limiting the potential for anything to affect land.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Orcasystems:


I joined in 76 when I was 17.. it was all over by then. Its surprising to see how many Canadians were killed over there in a war we were not even in.

All I can say is.. been there...done that.. don't ever want to do it again.

So get along people.




Well said!
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Parade of Storms

storms
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We have wonderful cool temps and unbelievably low humidity for central MS this morning.
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Quoting Floodman:


No worries, Orca, my pleasure!

We don't have to agree with the policy (I was dead set against inviolvement in South Vietnam) you just have to understand what the guys assigned to enforce the policy are forced to go through and do. BTW, I lost three in Vietnam, one who died in the custody of the North...


I joined in 76 when I was 17.. it was all over by then. Its surprising to see how many Canadians were killed over there in a war we were not even in.

All I can say is.. been there...done that.. don't ever want to do it again.

So get along people.

Now back to the weather :)
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space weather update...latest sunspot groups 1026 and 1027 are slowly fading with no apparent new plage areas in the near future...
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Jerry...back surgery on Sept. 11th....getting better every day!!!

:)
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If it were not for our brave soldiers, we would be speaking a different language in this free country of ours!
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Howdy, Amy! How are you, darlin'?
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111. wasn't really commenting on war, just on the discussion on the blog. it changed a lot between when i first checked the blog this morning around 9AM and now.
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Quoting Orcasystems:

Ahh Flood... hows your day going... getting better I hope :)
BTW, thank you for pointing out what I was trying to say.


No worries, Orca, my pleasure!

We don't have to agree with the policy (I was dead set against inviolvement in South Vietnam) you just have to understand what the guys assigned to enforce the policy are forced to go through and do. BTW, I lost three in Vietnam, one who died in the custody of the North...
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Either get control of the blog comments or do away with it! Weather, Weather, Weather.
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hey Jerry!!

:)
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112. MahFL
Of course a lot of the "brave" soldiers had no choice, they were conscripted. No doubt quite a few were scared shitless and did not want to be there. Weren't a lot of them smoking dope ?.....
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
wow, looks like the excrement really collided with the oscillating ventilation unit! LOL


War seems absurd to those of us not in a war zone, but the realities are stark for those who are in a war zone and have to deal with those realities. "Fighters" would have been a better word but redundant. Soldiers would have been sufficient.
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Quoting Floodman:


**POOF!**

Ahh Flood... hows your day going... getting better I hope :)
BTW, thank you for pointing out what I was trying to say.
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Quoting CUBWF:
I think we could let it pass. He already apology and learn that its not about freedom of speech, its always about respect others. Don't let the leftys get in to this. Some are around here all the time, waiting to expell the poison.


**POOF!**
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ROFLMAO, gee TS, only two shots at me.. I figured you could do better then that :)
I think you need a little more Juice this morning.. your slowing down.

Hopefully the Blog will return to the weather shortly
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SQUAWK! I'm with ya! Support our troops!!!!
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105. JRRP
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101. agreed. just trying to bring a little levity to the blog :)
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Unofficial Tropical Cyclone Advisory
Magicchaos' Western Pacific Public Advisory
Tropical Storm Parma (19W) Advisory Number 8
1100 AM EDT TUE SEP 29 2009

...Parma moving west-northwestward with little change in strength...

AT 1100 AM EDT...1500Z...The center of Tropical Storm Parma was located near latitude 8.2 degrees north and longitude 137.8 degrees east. This is about 95 miles south-southwest of Yap,Micronesia.

Parma is moving toward the west-northwest at 8 MPH...13 KM/HR. This motion is expected to continue for the next 12 to 24 hours, followed by a shift to the northwest, then north-northwest.

Maximum sustained winds are near 50 MPH...80 KM/HR...with higher gusts. Gradual strengthening is expected for the next few day and Parma could be a typhoon by Thursday.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 994 MB...29.36 inches.

...SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT INFORMATION...
LOCATION...8.2N 137.8E
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WEST-NORTHWEST OR 285 DEGREES AT 8 MPH
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...994 MB

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PRODUCT. LOCATION, WINDS, MOVEMENT, AND FORECAST ARE FROM THE JOINT TYPHOON WARNING CENTER. PRESSURE WAS FROM THE JAPAN METEOROLOGY AGENCY. THIS WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE OFFICIAL AND SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS SUCH.

NOTE: This is not a real product. I'm just doing this for fun and to make a Western Pacific public advisory easy to understand by using the NHC's format.
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I lost 4 family members.....2 of my dads brothers have been killed in Wars.....for anyone to say or defend such a deliberate act that Adrain posted is beyond how i can think.....Sorry! That hit home big time...Our family went through hell during those loses.
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Quoting pearlandaggie:
wow, looks like the excrement really collided with the oscillating ventilation unit! LOL


Right!! But it does make me feel good seeing the overwhelming support for our troops and indignation at that fools remark on this site.
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Quoting Floodman:


What the hell are you jumping him for? I agree with him 100%; I take exception to the remark that started this whole dust up myself, but at least keep your wits about you!

To infer that every one of our military personnel is a killer is ridiculous...let's take my old man for example: he was in South Korea in June 1950 and re-upped for combat three times; he wouldn't leave until it was over. One of his best friends died in what was then called Indo-China in 1957, fighting for the French (still in American uniform; he was a special forces advisor to the French). When I asked him why his friend would do such a thing after being in comabt in Korea all my dad could say was that his friend had acquired a taste for killing...was my dad a killer? By definition, yes, but only in self defense and as part of his duty. Was his friend a killer? Yes, plain and simple. He volunteered for the French duty because it gave him a chance to continue killing.

I support our troops 100%; do I agree with war as a tool of foreign policy? Absolutely not, but I do know that sometimes there is no other recourse...I'm a patriot and would lay down my life if it came to it and I would do it willingly so that guys like Adrian can say whatever they please, regardless of how I feel about it, but I'm with the Orcasystems on this one: ignore Adrian if you have to, but let's get on with our day.



Flood, I hope your wisdom is not wasted or goes over some people's head in this blog. Your thoughts always bring serenity to this place!
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I think we could let it pass. He already apology and learn that its not about freedom of speech, its always about respect others. Don't let the leftys get in to this. Some are around here all the time, waiting to expell the poison.
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Quoting TampaSpin:


Tom there was no typo there and for people like Orca to say lay off......right! So glad he lives in Canada.


Can do... Back to waiting for the fall weather...
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Quoting TampaTom:


Dude, typing Soliders is a typo.

Typing Soldiers (Killers) is an insult...


Tom there was no typo there and for people like Orca to say lay off......right! So glad he lives in Canada.
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wow, looks like the excrement really collided with the oscillating ventilation unit! LOL
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Quoting hurricane23:


Of course it was a damn typo why would i mean something like that? Once again my post was not meant to offend anyone who has lost loved ones or whos served to protect this great country of ours. Appreciate and fully respect 100 precent what our souldiers have done in the past and are currently doing for us in different parts of the world.


Dude, typing Soliders is a typo.

Typing Soldiers (Killers) is an insult...
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Quoting hurricane23:


Of course it was a damn typo why would i mean something like that? Once again my post was not meant to offend anyone who has lost loved ones or whos served to protect this great country of ours. Appreciate and fully respect 100 precent what our soldiers have done in the past and are currently doing for us in different parts of the world.


BS....you freaking made a bullet Adrain when you put () around it....BS

Quoting hurricane23:


I would think they get hit quite often. To get statistics you would have to do a web search. It is a tropical jungle and during the Vietnam War i recall reading that the soldiers (killers) were often hindered by tropical storms.

click on each section of the bar graph (in years) at the top of this page and you will get a much more detailed list of storms and their effects. Each five year segment can be clicked on.

Hope that helps. adrian
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Weather23.Ever see the movie "Groundhog Day"?
I think you are there. I know you screwed up, but we might get over it. I'm sure you will try harder next time.
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Quoting Floodman:


What the hell are you jumping him for? I agree with him 100%; I take exception to the remark that started this whole dust up myself, but at least keep your wits about you!

To infer that every one of our military personnel is a killer is ridiculous...let's take my old man for example: he was in South Korea in June 1950 and re-upped for combat three times; he wouldn't leave until it was over. One of his best friends died in what was then called Indo-China in 1957, fighting for the French (still in American uniform; he was a special forces advisor to the French). When I asked him why his friend would do such a thing after being in comabt in Korea all my dad could say was that his friend had acquired a taste for killing...was my dad a killer? By definition, yes, but only in self defense and as part of his duty. Was his friend a killer? Yes, plain and simple. He volunteered for the French duty because it gave him a chance to continue killing.

I support our troops 100%; do I agree with war as a tool of foreign policy? Absolutely not, but I do know that sometimes there is no other recourse...I'm a patriot and would lay down my life if it came to it and I would do it willingly so that guys like Adrian can say whatever they please, regardless of how I feel about it, but I'm with the Orcasystems on this one: ignore Adrian if you have to, but let's get on with our day.


Well said, flood!
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Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


Ok if this is a weather site then answer me this

WHY DID HE EVEN BRING THE WAR COMPARISON INTO IT TO ANSWER A DAMN WEATHER QUESTION?

WHY? TO GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE THAT IS WHY

Enough said, be back later


And you and all of the other suckers are feeding right into it. So what does that say about you?

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Quoting timtrice:


It matters because everyone's posting Marine corps videos, commenting Semper Fi, talking about US freedoms and what-not and he never said US. Maybe he meant US. I don't know and I don't give a shit.

Take this crap to Fox news or daily kos - this is a freaking weather site


Ok if this is a weather site then answer me this

WHY DID HE EVEN BRING THE WAR COMPARISON INTO IT TO ANSWER A DAMN WEATHER QUESTION?

WHY? TO GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE THAT IS WHY

Enough said, be back later
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Quoting dhcoop59:
Putting something in parenthesis is not an "oops, I didn't mean to type that". It was deliberate. And terribly offensive. I've been lurking here for years and never posted, but this made me mad enough to say SHAME ON YOU!


Of course it was a damn typo why would i mean something like that? Once again my post was not meant to offend anyone who has lost loved ones or whos served to protect this great country of ours. Appreciate and fully respect 100 precent what our soldiers have done in the past and are currently doing for us in different parts of the world.
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Quoting timtrice:
It's funny because many of you are bitching about his comments yet he never said american soldiers or american killers - he never made any association between soldiers and what nation. You people are assuming he meant US.

Not defending him, but it's ridiculous this back-and-forth exchange has gone on this long. Shut up and get over it


Does it matter what country they are from?
Are American soldiers the only great soldiers in this world?

If they are fighting for freedom, soldiers from all countries should be given respect. So to me it does not matter at all what country he was referring to
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Quoting beell:


Good idea imo.


What the hell are you jumping him for? I agree with him 100%; I take exception to the remark that started this whole dust up myself, but at least keep your wits about you!

To infer that every one of our military personnel is a killer is ridiculous...let's take my old man for example: he was in South Korea in June 1950 and re-upped for combat three times; he wouldn't leave until it was over. One of his best friends died in what was then called Indo-China in 1957, fighting for the French (still in American uniform; he was a special forces advisor to the French). When I asked him why his friend would do such a thing after being in comabt in Korea all my dad could say was that his friend had acquired a taste for killing...was my dad a killer? By definition, yes, but only in self defense and as part of his duty. Was his friend a killer? Yes, plain and simple. He volunteered for the French duty because it gave him a chance to continue killing.

I support our troops 100%; do I agree with war as a tool of foreign policy? Absolutely not, but I do know that sometimes there is no other recourse...I'm a patriot and would lay down my life if it came to it and I would do it willingly so that guys like Adrian can say whatever they please, regardless of how I feel about it, but I'm with the Orcasystems on this one: ignore Adrian if you have to, but let's get on with our day.

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It's funny because many of you are bitching about his comments yet he never said american soldiers or american killers - he never made any association between soldiers and what nation. You people are assuming he meant US.

Not defending him, but it's ridiculous this back-and-forth exchange has gone on this long. Shut up and get over it
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This day in September 29th looks like November 29th with all the shear in the forecast....this is 3 days out.

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Quoting CUBWF:

The lower we'll have 74 on thursday. Hope this winter bring good cold to our area. Planing to go to north Carolina mountains this winter to see the snow. We have been doing this for the last two years, to Gatlinburg and Snowshoe mountain and no even a flurry. LOL


Back to the weather; same Gatlinburg experience for me a few years back and the snow stopped the day we got there, and started again the day after we left. But the brews were still flowing at "Chuggies".....Feels like Fall in North Florida this am....Hope it is here to stay for a while.
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Does anyone know of any winter frost / cold forecast or discussion websites? Growing tropical fruit trees in central Florida is not without its risks, meteorologicaly speaking. This last winter was a real surprise, I would like to figure out how many additional kerosene burners to pick up. Thank you.
P.S. Please free to PM me with your suggestion.
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Quoting Orcasystems:
OK, you trashed him enough for a thoughtless and stupid remark.. let it go. Click on the minus sign and carry on with the day.


What he said!!!!!
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Putting something in parenthesis is not an "oops, I didn't mean to type that". It was deliberate. And terribly offensive. I've been lurking here for years and never posted, but this made me mad enough to say SHAME ON YOU!
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51. beell 10:59 AM EDT on September 29, 2009
Quoting Orcasystems:
OK, you trashed him enough for a thoughtless and stupid remark.. let it go. Click on the minus sign and carry on with the day.


Mind your own soldiers...


Well said....how typical
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I think someone needs to visit the Vietnam war memorial,and look at all the brave soldiers who died in that horrible war.That one word thrown in there hurts so many people who died or lost love ones in that war.Enough said.
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Quoting mossyhead:
yep, it was 59 degrees here(14 miles west of ike)this morning and it felt good.

The lower we'll have 74 on thursday. Hope this winter bring good cold to our area. Planing to go to north Carolina mountains this winter to see the snow. We have been doing this for the last two years, to Gatlinburg and Snowshoe mountain and no even a flurry. LOL
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#70,
If you did not insert the parentheses I think most of these posts would have not been so upset at the comment, it was just the association that the parentheses made with the word before it. Always best to preview your comment first before posting on here.
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Good Morning Dr. Masters and fellow bloggers on WU. Hope all is well with everyone and that everyone has a great, blessed day.

Typhoon Ketsana will soon be no more. Hopefully the Vietnemese people are safe and damage is not too severe. Unfortunately, there has been loss of life and damage. Reports will trickle out over the coming hours/days.

Yes, we fought a war against Vietnam, unfortunately, it did NOT turn out the way the USA expected. I remember growing up during the war, it was horrible. That ended 35yrs ago, is there any way to stop beating that "dead horse" please. I know people from Vietnam, I heard how they suffered, they were "boat people" rescued by the US NAVY.
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