Global ocean temperatures at record highs for 3rd consecutive month

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:04 PM GMT on September 17, 2009

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For the third consecutive month, global Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) were the warmest on record, according to statistics released yesterday by the National Climatic Data Center. August SSTs were 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average, breaking the previous August record set in 1998. The record August SSTs were due in part to the continuation of El Niño conditions in the Eastern Pacific, which have substantially warmed a large stretch of the tropical Eastern Pacific Ocean. El Niño conditions are expected to amplify during the coming months, and record or near-record global ocean temperatures will probably continue.

August global surface temperatures 2nd to 6th warmest on record
The globe recorded its second warmest August since record keeping began in 1880, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. NOAA rated the period June - August (summer in the Northern Hemisphere, winter in the Southern Hemisphere) as the third warmest on record, and the year-to-date period, January - August 2009, as the fifth warmest such period on record. NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies rated August 2009 as the 6th warmest August on record, and the period June-July-August as the 2nd warmest on record. The August satellite-measured temperatures for the lowest five miles of the atmosphere were between 7th and 9th warmest on record, according to the University of Alabama in Huntsville and Remote Sensing Systems.

Warmest August on record in Australia and New Zealand
Australia had its warmest August on record in 2009, according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology. Temperatures averaged a remarkable 3.2°C (5.8°F) above average, making August 2009 the most anomalous month ever recorded in Australia. The previous record was set in April 2005, which was 3.1°C (5.6°C) above average. The month's highest temperature, 39.7°C (103°F) at Wyndham Airport on the 31st, fell only 0.3°C short of the Australian record for August. The Australian winter (June-July-August) was the 2nd warmest on record, next to the winter of 1996. New Zealand also experienced its warmest August on record (records go back 155 years).

A cool August and cool summer for the U.S.
For the contiguous U.S., the average August temperature was 0.6°F below average, making it the 30th coolest August in the 115-year record, according to the National Climatic Data Center. The U.S. as a whole was below normal for the summer period (June - August). A recurring upper level trough held the June - August temperatures down in the central states, where Michigan experienced its fifth coolest summer, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and South Dakota their seventh coolest each, Nebraska its eighth, and Iowa its ninth. In contrast, the temperatures in Florida averaged out to be fourth warmest, while Washington and Texas experienced their eighth and ninth warmest summers, respectively.

U.S. precipitation in August was below average, as the month ranked 28th driest in the 115-year record. Arizona had its fourth driest August, New Mexico its fifth, and it was the eighth driest August for Colorado, Utah and Texas. Arizona observed its third driest summer, while both South Carolina and Georgia had their sixth driest. It was the 8th wettest summer on record in the Northeast.

At the end of August, 13% of the contiguous United States was in moderate-to-exceptional drought. This is a drop from the 19% figure observed at the beginning of the year. These extreme drought regions were exclusively in South to Central Texas. However, significant drought relief occurred in this region the second week of September, when a large area of tropical moisture settled in over the region, bringing heavy rains. About 19 percent of the contiguous U.S. fell in the severely to extremely wet categories in August.

Weak El Niño conditions continue
El Niño conditions continue over the tropical Eastern Pacific. Ocean temperatures in the area 5°N - 5°S, 120°W - 170°W, also called the "Niña 3.4 region", were 0.4°C above the threshold for a weak El Niño, according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology. NOAA's Climate Prediction Center is maintaining an El Niño Advisory. Current conditions and model forecasts favor the continued development of a weak-to-moderate strength El Niño into the Northern Hemisphere Fall 2009, with the likelihood of at least a moderate strength El Niño (3-month Niño-3.4 SST index of +1.0°C or greater) during the Northern Hemisphere Winter 2009-10.

Sea ice extent in the Arctic 3rd lowest on record
August 2009 Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent was the 3rd lowest since 1979, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center, behind 2006 and 2007. Sea ice extent has increased slightly over the past week, and we have probably reached the minimum for the year. If so, this year's minimum ranks as the 3rd lowest, behind 2007 and 2008. The fabled Northwest Passage appeared to melt free for brief period in August, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. This marks the third consecutive year--and third time in recorded history--the Northwest Passage has opened. The Northeast Passage along the north coast of Russia also opened up this year. This is the fourth time in the past five years the Northeast Passage has opened, and the fourth time in recorded history.

Quiet in the Atlantic
The remains of Hurricane Fred are generating a very small amount of heavy thunderstorm activity near 23N, 61W. These thunderstorms were generating winds up to 35 mph, according to this morning's QuikSCAT pass. However, QuikSCAT also showed that the remains do not have a surface circulation, and the organization of ex-Fred has degraded to point where NHC is no longer mentioning the system on their Tropical Weather Outlook. Water vapor satellite loops show that ex-Fred continues to suffer from dry air thanks to an upper-level low pressure system, and it is unlikely that Fred will ever regenerate. None of the computer models call for any tropical cyclones to develop anywhere in the Atlantic over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Two views of the eye of Super Typhoon Choi-wan. Left: the eye at 01:25 UTC 9/16/09, when Choi-wan was a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds. Right: the eye at 03:40 UTC 9/17/09, when Choi-was was a Category 4 storm with 150 mph winds. Image credit: MODIS Rapid Response System.

Typhoon Choi-Wan no longer a Category 5 storm
This year's first Category 5 tropical cycloneTyphoon Choi-Wan, has fallen to Category 4 strength after spending 42 hours as a 160 mph Category 5 storm. Choi-Wan--in Cantonese, a type of cloud--is over the open ocean south of Japan, and is not expected to impact any land areas. Choi-wan passed over tiny Alamagan Island, population 15, yesterday. All residents on the island were reported safe.

On this day twenty years ago
At 1 am AST on September 17, 1989, Hurricane Hugo made a direct hit Guadeloupe, pounding the island with Category 4 sustained winds of 140 mph. A storm surge of up to 2.5 meters (8 feet) topped by high battering waves smashed ashore. Hugo wreaked massive devastation on Guadeloupe, destroying 10,000 homes, leaving 35,000 of the island's 340,000 people homeless. Four people died and 107 were injured. An additional seven people were killed three days after the storm when a medical helicopter crashed while evacuating victims. Hugo's winds knocked the airport control tower out of commission, and almost completely destroyed the town of St. Francious, on the island's eastern end. Debris blocked at least 30% of the island's roads. Agriculture suffered massive losses that took years to recover from, as Hugo flattened 100% of the banana crop, 60% of the sugar cane crop, and ruined nearly all of the island's coconut palms. Most of the island's fishing fleet was wiped out, and total damage to the island from Hugo amounted to $880 million. Hugo was the strongest hurricane to hit the island since the legendary 1899 San Ciriaco Hurricane--the longest-lived Atlantic hurricane of all time--which brought 150 mph winds to Guadeloupe.


Figure 2. AVHRR visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 17, 1989. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

Hugo continued northwest and pulverized its next target, the island of Montserrat, several hours later. Though the eye missed Monserrat, the severe right front quadrant of Hugo's eyewall, still packing sustained winds of 140 mph, pounded the island. Nearly every home on Monserrat was destroyed or heavily damaged, leaving 11,000 of the island's 12,000 people homeless. Numerous schools, hospitals, and churches were destroyed, along with the police department, the government headquarters, and the main power station. Twenty foot waves in the harbor of the main town, Plymouth, destroyed the 180-foot stone jetty, and heavy rains of up to seven inches created mudslides that at the foot of Chances Peak that destroyed 21 homes. Ten people were killed on Montserrat, 89 injured, and damage topped $260 million, making it the most expensive hurricane in the island's history. Elecrtic, water, and telephone service were disrupted for weeks, necessitating a massive U.S. and British relief effort.


Figure 3. Hugo's storm surge inundates the coast of Montserrat Island. Image credit: NOAA photo library.

The nearby islands of St. Kitts, Antigua, St. Martin, Anguilla, and Dominica did not receive a blow from Hugo's eyewall, but damage was heavy nonetheless. One person was killed on Antigua, and 30% of the homes damaged. Dominica suffered the loss of 80% of its banana crop, and landslides cut off many towns for days. Shoreline erosion damage and crop losses totaled $43 million on St. Kitts, where one person was killed.

Jeff Masters

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1624. Dakster
2:48 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting StormW:
Phantom Fred


He he. LOL... ROFLMAO.. I almost sharted...
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1623. ElConando
2:04 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
aggie good your on! What is the MJO forecast for late Sept- early Oct, still an upward pulse?
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1622. reedzone
2:02 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
The shear map shows 5-15 knots where "Double 07L" is heading to, "Double 07L" could make a comeback before landfall, this has been my feeling for a while.



Notice a large area of favorable condition in the Bahamas. An Anticyclonic flow should keep conditions good for Fred once "Double 07L" exits the 20 knot shear and gets into very warm waters and low wind shear for the first time since he was a Hurricane. A Tropical Depression or Storm at landfall is not out of the realm of possibility.
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1621. reedzone
1:59 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:



I figured I'd be smack in the middle of the BAMMS track, South Florida might be spared from the disturbance.
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1620. TheCaneWhisperer
2:00 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting OSUWXGUY:
Good Morning Everyone!

All this focus on 98L...and very little on ex-Fred...

Ex-Fred's low level circulation is MUCH better defined this morning on visible satellite imagery and deep convection is firing close to the center.

He's almost back to being a TD. The northeasterly shear is still strong and is forecast to only slowly ease over the next 36 hours.

Late in the forecast 72-96 hours...large scale ridging builds off the east coast of the US and the upper level winds become very weak - aka the shear is forecast to become favorable.

The more stuff I look at, the more I'm starting to convince myself that this could be a threat to the East Coast...

The only caveat is that it needs to survive over the next 24-36 hours in the face of moderate shear




Based on what he's gone through thus far, that seems rather insignificant doesn't it.
1619. Buhdog
1:54 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
i still think fred-ex is the most clever and depicting
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1618. OSUWXGUY
1:53 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Good Morning Everyone!

All this focus on 98L...and very little on ex-Fred...

Ex-Fred's low level circulation is MUCH better defined this morning on visible satellite imagery and deep convection is firing close to the center.

He's almost back to being a TD. The northeasterly shear is still strong and is forecast to only slowly ease over the next 36 hours.

Late in the forecast 72-96 hours...large scale ridging builds off the east coast of the US and the upper level winds become very weak - aka the shear is forecast to become favorable.

The more stuff I look at, the more I'm starting to convince myself that this could be a threat to the East Coast...

The only caveat is that it needs to survive over the next 24-36 hours in the face of moderate shear


1617. atmoaggie
1:52 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting iluvjess:
"I actually has a job offer at RSMAS on Virginia Key."

I actually have a job offer...

Sorry... lol ... I really don't care if anyone on here speels correctly all the time or not but you are always quick to correct mine so I thought that I would return the favor.

Oops.
And your assumption is incorrect. I had a job offer. Since denied.
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1616. atmoaggie
1:51 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Grothar:


Publix. I stand outside and assess the weather in the event our customers need umbrellas. Very astute atmoaggie. Not trying to ingratiate myself with you, but you do write interesting blogs with factual information and quite a bit of wit. That is always a winning combination. You usually stand your ground as well. Now where are those "sophisticated" models which Patrap usually posts on the blog. Where is 98L going?

Like these?
Early cycle:




Little to show in late cycle models as of yet.
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1615. iluvjess
1:50 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
"I actually has a job offer at RSMAS on Virginia Key."

I actually have a job offer...

Sorry... lol ... I really don't care if anyone on here speels correctly all the time or not but you are always quick to correct mine so I thought that I would return the favor.
1614. cchsweatherman
1:50 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Right now, I'm working on updating the forecasts on the Florida Weather Page on the CCHS Weather Center site, but I have finished updating the Atlantic Hurricane Watch page. Below you will find my Tropical Update.



CCHS Weather Center Tropical Update

For Friday, September 18, 2009 at 9:00AM EST

Fred Trying to Return from the Dead


Over a week ago, Hurricane Fred trolled the Eastern Atlantic strengthening to become the season's second major hurricane before meeting a remarkable swift death just two days later due to just brutal upper level winds. Well, it seems the remnants from ex-Hurricane Fred have been attempting to make a comeback as the surface spin has returned and thunderstorms continue to try and form over and around this spin. Even despite this comeback attempt, conditions around this system remain somewhat non-conducive for this to re-develop into anything significant. The remnants should continue moving west into the Bahamas over the weekend and move over Southern or Central Florida come early next week bringing a higher rain chance and an increase in easterly winds over the area.

Invest 98L Forms in East Atlantic

A tropical wave that came off Africa about five days ago has been showing signs of life overnight which caused the National Hurricane Center to begin running computer models and tracking the system as Invest 98L. An Invest means that the disturbance is being monitored for further development, but it doesn't guarantee a system will develop. Overnight, showers and thunderstorms really blossomed over the surface spin that had developed over the past few days. Thus far, the computer models don't show much development with this system as they show a weak tropical cyclone at best due to the same upper level winds that caused the demise of Fred. Right now, the National Hurricane Center has given this system a medium chance to become a tropical cyclone and I would have to agree with them. We will just have to watch the system to see whether it continues to become better organized.
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1613. IKE
1:48 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
NEW BLOG!!!!!
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1612. stoormfury
1:47 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Looking at the direction of the clouds ahead of 98L it is apparent that 98L will be moving WSW for sometime
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1611. atmoaggie
1:47 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Skyepony:
Yeah Grothar~ At least wu-mail me. Inquiring minds...

Your so right though..To see people on here settle at pre-invest was such a show of refusal to admit they were wrong & to learn from it. But you can only present facts so many ways.

Yeah, I decided not to get involved in that last night. Some discussions here become less civil than one about AGW, if you can believe that.
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1610. Grothar
1:46 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting atmoaggie:

Guess I am too slow to figure out where you work by your comments.
Something between Publix and AOML?


Publix. I stand outside and assess the weather in the event our customers need umbrellas. Very astute atmoaggie. Not trying to ingratiate myself with you, but you do write interesting blogs with factual information and quite a bit of wit. That is always a winning combination. You usually stand your ground as well. Now where are those "sophisticated" models which Patrap usually posts on the blog. Where is 98L going?
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1609. atmoaggie
1:45 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting mikatnight:


Good one, Aggie!
And just in case anyone was wondering:
The Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory (AOML) is one of the Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR) Facilities of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). NOAA/AOML is a part of the US Department of Commerce (DOC) and is located in Miami, Florida. AOML's mission is to conduct basic and applied research in oceanography, tropical meteorology, atmospheric and oceanic chemistry, and acoustics. The research seeks to understand the physical characteristics and processes of the ocean and the atmosphere, both separately and as a coupled system.

I actually had a job offer at RSMAS on Virginia Key. RSMAS is the other place, besides AOML, on that little island.
AOML has the north half, RSMAS the southern half (but the RSMAS "half" is bigger, I think.)
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1608. iluvjess
1:45 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
"StormW, I spend my life avoiding confrontation. But wouldn't you assume by now that most of the bloggers have figured out where I work, I know you have figured it out. Just do not mention it."

I don't really think that where you work is that important to most of us. I don't think that anyone is really trying to "figure it out".
1606. Skyepony (Mod)
1:43 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Yeah Grothar~ At least wu-mail me. Inquiring minds...

Your so right though..To see people on here settle at pre-invest was such a show of refusal to admit they were wrong & to learn from it. But you can only present facts so many ways.
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1605. mikatnight
1:43 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Depending on circumstances, could be Flourishing Fred, or Floundering Fred…
Ahh...yes StormW...how tricky, going to the ph's - I think you nailed it.
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1604. atmoaggie
1:42 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Percent of normal rainfall for the last week (Normal as determined by some number of years worth radar-detected average rainfall for this week).

That is quite enough, thanks, move on dammit.



Look at the great Arkansas drought.
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1601. mikatnight
1:38 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Come on, Grothar, fess up! You've got everyone's curiosity peeked…
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1600. PensacolaDoug
1:37 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Fake'em out Fred?
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1599. PensacolaDoug
1:36 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
How bout


Fool'em Fred.

Funky Fred

Falsely Fred

Quick! Somebody get me a theasaurus!
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1598. mikatnight
1:35 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting atmoaggie:

Guess I am too slow to figure out where you work by your comments.
Something between Publix and AOML?


Good one, Aggie!
And just in case anyone was wondering:
The Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory (AOML) is one of the Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR) Facilities of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). NOAA/AOML is a part of the US Department of Commerce (DOC) and is located in Miami, Florida. AOML's mission is to conduct basic and applied research in oceanography, tropical meteorology, atmospheric and oceanic chemistry, and acoustics. The research seeks to understand the physical characteristics and processes of the ocean and the atmosphere, both separately and as a coupled system.
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1597. Skyepony (Mod)
1:34 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
18/1145 UTC 13.4N 39.0W T1.0/1.5 98L
18/0600 UTC 13.0N 38.5W T1.5/1.5 INVEST
17/2345 UTC 12.6N 37.4W T1.0/1.0 INVEST
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1596. PensacolaDoug
1:33 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting mikatnight:
Did you know...
The wind is like the air, only pushier.



Quote of the day! LMAO!
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1595. atmoaggie
1:30 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Grothar:
Boy, did I get blasted last night. They called the invest after 10:00 PM last night and a few people mentioned it including me. Everone kept saying it was official. Wait until its official. I told them it was official. Look back at the blogs after 10:30 last night if you have time. StormW was still on. The kept saying it wasn't declared by the NAVY, yet it clearly has an invest floater. I was going to explain that the only reasing it was not being posted was the mess-up between 97L and 97E which was mentioned in an earlier blog here, which was quite true. The reason they didn't post the number 98L, was a because of a discussion not to callit 97L. But I didn't waste my time. I don't think people on here are aware where I work?????? You should all have figured it out by now, by my comments.

This is just an argument update in case you all missed the fun last time. Got hot for a while.

Guess I am too slow to figure out where you work by your comments.
Something between Publix and AOML?
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1594. stoormfury
1:29 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
the ridge is forcing 98L WSW. now at 12.6N 39.8W. this will enable to miss that weakness and continue west the next few days
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1593. mikatnight
1:28 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Did you know...
The wind is like the air, only pushier.
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1592. Grothar
1:27 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting StormW:
Grothar,
Don't ever worry about being blasted...the best thing one can do as a forecaster is state what he sees, and stick by it.


StormW, I spend my life avoiding confrontation. But wouldn't you assume by now that most of the bloggers have figured out where I work, I know you have figured it out. Just do not mention it.
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1591. atmoaggie
1:26 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
LBAR still holding onto that across the continental divide solution for Marty...at least it isn't into Kansas any more.

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1590. NEwxguy
1:25 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting mikatnight:
Funny Fred
Freaky Fred
Finely Fred
Foolish Fred
Frumpy Fred
I’m thinkin’ it should start with an “F”
Of course, if it ever hit anyone and caused damage it would surely be
F***in’ Fred.
But that ain’t gonna happen so probably just Friendly Fred.


How about fakin it Fred
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1589. mikatnight
1:25 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Hi Grothar!
Yeah, still plugging along. Haven't been on much since work picked up quite a bit. Glad to see you as always. As far as getting "dumped on", what StormW said...
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1588. TheCaneWhisperer
1:24 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting mikatnight:
Funny Fred
Freaky Fred
Finely Fred
Foolish Fred
Frumpy Fred
I’m thinkin’ it should start with an “F”
Of course, if it ever hit anyone and caused damage it would surely be
F***in’ Fred.
But that ain’t gonna happen so probably just Friendly Fred.


Just remember, the freaky small Fred was once a giant. He's been tenacious thus far and hopefully he isn't given the chance to breath
1587. mikatnight
1:22 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
And now, for your extended forecast: "Foooorrrcaaaasssstt"
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1585. mikatnight
1:21 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Funny Fred
Freaky Fred
Finely Fred
Foolish Fred
Frumpy Fred
I’m thinkin’ it should start with an “F”
Of course, if it ever hit anyone and caused damage it would surely be
F***in’ Fred.
But that ain’t gonna happen so probably just Friendly Fred.
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1583. Grothar
1:20 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Tazmanian:
98L looks more like danny uder a lot of shear


has for fred its done in my books it been done/gone from the start of SEP 12th and the talk about fred is starting too get old it dies it comes back ir dies it comes back is geting old has well wish fred makes up its mine on what it wants to do or i may have a cold front come down and pick up fred and this take him a long with it


this is geting old


Boy Taz, last time I defend you. WE both got it for declaring the invest. You still on since last night???
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1582. iluvjess
1:18 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
It's so slow in here this morning...
1581. Grothar
1:18 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting mikatnight:


Yes. I believe the publicity from that storm caused a more general knowledge of hurricanes, specifically that they can have a calm center, followed quickly by resurgence of hurricane force winds. Many people were cut to pieces when they ventured out into the eye, thinking the storm had passed…


Hey Mik, How are ya! Long time no hear. Hope all is well!!! See me get blasted last night for saying they had a new invest and no one believed me. First time I ever got dumped on. Not a nice feeling. All I wrote was a little line "We have a new invest!" WOW. I should have kept my mouth shut. You would have thought I said something awful.
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1580. Tazmanian
1:13 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its zombie fred taz



i like it



for now on all fred most be called zombie fred and no other name for it other then that


ok
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1579. mikatnight
1:12 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Tazmanian:
this is geting old


Reminds me of the quote from the bully in "Everybody Hates Cris", "It never gets old, and I never get tired."
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1578. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
1:08 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting Tazmanian:
98L looks more like danny uder a lot of shear


has for fred its done in my books it been done/gone from the start of SEP 12th and the talk about fred is starting too get old it dies it comes back ir dies it comes back is geting old has well wish fred makes up its mine on what it wants to do or i may have a cold front come down and pick up fred and this take him a long with it


this is geting old
its zombie fred taz
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1577. mikatnight
1:07 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Quoting surfsidesindy:


I read a detailed account of that storm. An amazing and interesting story for anyone interested in hurricanes and weather (AND survival!)


Yes. I believe the publicity from that storm caused a more general knowledge of hurricanes, specifically that they can have a calm center, followed quickly by resurgence of hurricane force winds. Many people were cut to pieces when they ventured out into the eye, thinking the storm had passed…
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1576. Tazmanian
1:03 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
98L looks more like danny uder a lot of shear


has for fred its done in my books it been done/gone from the start of SEP 12th and the talk about fred is starting too get old it dies it comes back ir dies it comes back is geting old has well wish fred makes up its mine on what it wants to do or i may have a cold front come down and pick up fred and this take him a long with it


this is geting old
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1575. Grothar
1:02 PM GMT on September 18, 2009
Boy, did I get blasted last night. They called the invest after 10:00 PM last night and a few people mentioned it including me. Everone kept saying it was official. Wait until its official. I told them it was official. Look back at the blogs after 10:30 last night if you have time. StormW was still on. The kept saying it wasn't declared by the NAVY, yet it clearly has an invest floater. I was going to explain that the only reasing it was not being posted was the mess-up between 97L and 97E which was mentioned in an earlier blog here, which was quite true. The reason they didn't post the number 98L, was a because of a discussion not to callit 97L. But I didn't waste my time. I don't think people on here are aware where I work?????? You should all have figured it out by now, by my comments.

This is just an argument update in case you all missed the fun last time. Got hot for a while.
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1:02 PM GMT on September 18, 2009


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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.