Arctic temperatures the warmest in 2,000 years; 2009 Arctic sea ice loss 3rd highest

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:32 PM GMT on September 04, 2009

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It's time to take a bit of a break from coverage of the Atlantic hurricane season of 2009, and report on some important climate news. The past decade was the warmest decade in the Arctic for the past 2,000 years, according to a study called "Recent Warming Reverses Long-Term Arctic Cooling" published today in the journal Science. Furthermore, four of the five warmest decades in the past 2,000 years occurred between 1950 - 2000, despite the fact that summertime solar radiation in the Arctic has been steadily declining for the past 2,000 years. Previous efforts to reconstruct past climate in the Arctic extended back only 400 years, so the new study--which used lake sediments, glacier ice cores, and tree rings to look at past climate back to the time of Christ, decade by decade-- is a major new milestone in our understanding of the Arctic climate. The researchers found that Arctic temperatures steadily declined between 1 A.D. and 1900 A.D., as would be expected due to a 26,000-year cycle in Earth's orbit that brought less summer sunshine to the North Pole. Earth is now about 620,000 miles (1 million km) farther from the Sun in the Arctic summer than it was 2000 years ago. However, temperatures in the Arctic began to rise around the year 1900, and are now 1.4°C (2.5°F) warmer than they should be, based on the amount of sunlight that is currently falling in the Arctic in summer. "If it hadn't been for the increase in human-produced greenhouse gases, summer temperatures in the Arctic should have cooled gradually over the last century," Bette Otto-Bliesner, a co-author from the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said in a statement.

The Arctic melt season of 2009
Arctic sea ice suffered another summer of significant melting in 2009, with August ice extent the third lowest on record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. August ice extent was 19% below the 1979 - 2000 average, and only 2007 and 2008 saw more melting of Arctic sea ice. We've now had two straight years in the Arctic without a new record minimum in sea ice. However, this does not mean that the Arctic sea ice is recovering. The reduced melting in 2009 compared to 2007 and 2008 primarily resulted from a different atmospheric circulation pattern this summer. This pattern generated winds that transported ice toward the Siberian coast and discouraged export of ice out of the Arctic Ocean. The previous two summers, the prevailing wind pattern acted to transport more ice out of the Arctic through Fram Strait, along the east side of Greenland. At last December's meeting of the American Geophysical Union, the world's largest scientific conference on climate change, J.E. Kay of the National Center for Atmospheric Research showed that Arctic surface pressure in the summer of 2007 was the fourth highest since 1948, and cloud cover at Barrow, Alaska was the sixth lowest. This suggests that once every 10 - 20 years a "perfect storm" of weather conditions highly favorable for ice loss invades the Arctic. The last two times such conditions existed was 1977 and 1987, and it may be another ten or so years before weather conditions align properly to set a new record minimum.

The Northeast Passage opens
As a result of this summer's melting, the Northeast Passage, a notoriously ice-choked sea route along the northern Russia, is now clear of ice and open for navigation. Satellite analyses by the University of Illinois Polar Research Group and the National Snow and Ice Data Center show that the last remaining ice blockage along the north coast of Russia melted in late August, allowing navigation from Europe to Alaska in ice-free waters. Mariners have been attempting to sail the Northeast Passage since 1553, and it wasn't until the record-breaking Arctic sea-ice melt year of 2005 that the Northeast Passage opened for ice-free navigation for the first time in recorded history. The fabled Northwest Passage through the Arctic waters of Canada has remained closed this summer, however. An atmospheric pressure pattern set up in late July that created winds that pushed old, thick ice into several of the channels of the Northwest Passage. Recent research by Stephen Howell at the University of Waterloo in Canada shows that whether the Northwest Passage clears depends less on how much melt occurs, and more on whether multi-year sea ice is pushed into the channels. Counter-intuitively, as the ice cover thins, ice may flow more easily into the channels, preventing the Northwest Passage from regularly opening in coming decades, if the prevailing winds set up to blow ice into the channels of the Passage. The Northwest Passage opened for the first time in recorded history in 2007, and again in 2008. Mariners have been attempting to find a route through the Northwest Passage since 1497.


Figure 1. Sea ice extent on September 2, 2009, with the Northwest Passage (red line) and Northeast Passage (green line) shown. The Northeast Passage was open, but the Northwest Passage was blocked in three places. The orange line shows the median edge of sea ice extent for September 2 during the period 1979 - 2000, and this year's ice extent is about 19% below average. Image credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center.

Commercial shipping begins in the Northeast Passage
This year's opening marks the fourth time in five years that the Northeast Passage has opened, and commercial shipping companies are taking note. Two German ships set off on August 21 on the first commercial voyage ever made through the Northeast Passage without the help of icebreakers. The Northeast Passage trims 4,500 miles off the 12,500 mile trip through the Suez Canal, yielding considerable savings in fuel. The voyage was not possible last year, because Russia had not yet worked out a permitting process. With Arctic sea ice expected to continue to decline in the coming decades, shipping traffic through the Northeast Passage will likely become commonplace most summers.

When was the Northeast Passage ice-free in the past?
People have been attempting to penetrate the ice-bound Northeast Passage since 1553, when British explorer Sir Hugh Willoughby attempted the passage with three ships and 62 men. The frozen bodies of Sir Hugh and his men were found a year later, after they failed to make it past the northern coast of Finland. British explorer Henry Hudson, who died in 1611 trying to find a route through Canada's fabled Northwest Passage, (and whom Canada's Hudson Bay and New York's Hudson River are named after), attempted to sail the Northeast Passage in 1607 and 1608, and failed. The Northeast Passage has remained closed to navigation, except via assist by icebreakers, from 1553 to 2005. The results published in Science today suggest that prior to 2005, the last previous opening was the period 5,000 - 7,000 years ago, when the Earth's orbital variations brought more sunlight to the Arctic in summer than at present. It is possible we'll know better soon. A new technique that examines organic compounds left behind in Arctic sediments by diatoms that live in sea ice give hope that a detailed record of sea ice extent extending back to the end of the Ice Age 12,000 years ago may be possible (Belt et al., 2007). The researchers are studying sediments along the Northwest Passage in hopes of being able to determine when the Passage was last open.

References
Belt, S.T., G. Masse, S.J. Rowland, M. Poulin, C. Michel, and B. LeBlanc, "A novel chemical fossil of palaeo sea ice: IP25", Organic Geochemistry, Volume 38, Issue 1, January 2007, Pages 16-27.

Darrell S. Kaufman, David P. Schneider, Nicholas P. McKay, Caspar M. Ammann, Raymond S. Bradley, Keith R. Briffa, Gifford H. Miller, Bette L. Otto-Bliesner, Jonathan T. Overpeck, Bo M. Vinther, and Arctic Lakes 2k Project Members, 2009, "Recent Warming Reverses Long-Term Arctic Cooling", Science 4 September 2009: 1236-1239.

Howell, S. E. L., C. R. Duguay, and T. Markus. 2009. Sea ice conditions and melt season duration variability within the Canadian Arctic Archipelago: 1979.2008, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L10502, doi:10.1029/2009GL037681.

Tropical Weather Outlook
The remains of Tropical Storm Erika are bringing heavy rain to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands today, and this activity will spread to the Dominican Republic on Saturday. Radar-estimated rainfall shows up to three inches of rain has fallen in eastern Puerto Rico from the storm. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico shows no surface circulation or organization of the echoes, and redevelopment of Erika over the next three days is unlikely to occur due to high wind shear of 25 - 30 knots. By Monday or Tuesday, shear may drop enough to allow redevelopment, depending upon the location of Erika's remains. Redevelopment is more likely if Erika works its way northwestward into the Bahamas.

A large tropical wave with plenty of spin is located a few hundred miles southwest of the Cape Verdes Islands, off the coast of Africa. Heavy thunderstorm activity has increased slightly in this wave over the past day, and it has the potential to gradually develop into a tropical depression by early next week. NHC is giving this wave a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Sunday. The GFS model continues to predict development of this wave into a tropical depression early next week.

I'll have an update Saturday or Sunday, depending upon developments in the tropics.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting KarenRei:


They *openly* offer a $10k prize *per denialist paper*. Point to anything even remotely comparable on the other side. The fossil fuel industry is responsible for *trillions* of dollars of economic activity worldwide. There's nothing even remotely comparable to that.

The overwhelming majority of published climatologists work for public universities, which means low pay. And published climatologists are approximately 97% likely to state that the Earth is warming and about an equivalent percent to state that that humans are responsible for climate change.

I'll not get into a propaganda war with you on the issue.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
10 percent meat by-produts 90 percent soybean = 100 percent big mac


Yummy, making me hungry, NOT...
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Summer Climate Summary for Central Indiana
Temperatures

Climatological summer covers the months of June, July, and August. During that period, temperatures averaged below normal across central Indiana. The coolest month during the summer was July. July temperatures averaged 3.5 to 6.5 degrees below average, and the only first order station to reach 90 degrees during the month was Muncie. July 2009 was the 2nd coldest July on record for Indianapolis.

Warm periods did occur in June and August. Most sites saw their warmest periods of the summer in late June, when readings topped out in the lower to middle 90s. Another warm spell occurred in mid August. Interestingly, both the coldest and warmest temperatures for the season happened in June for most sites. The first week of June saw temperatures in the 40s across much of the area. The last week of August also saw readings in the 40s for many areas.


Site


Summer
2009 Avg Temp


Summer 2009 Difference
from normal

Highest
Temperature

Lowest
Temperature
Indianapolis

72.4

-1.1

93 on 6/24

47 on 6/5
Lafayette

71.3

-0.7

94 on 6/24

45 on 8/31
Muncie

70.6

-1.9

93 on 6/24,25

43 on 6/5
Terre Haute

71.8

-2.4

93 on 6/25

48 on 6/5
Bloomington

70.7

-2.7

91 on 6/24

46 on 6/5
Shelbyville

70.6

-2.8

92 on 6/24,5

44 on 6/5
Indy – Eagle Crk.

72.0

-1.6

92 on 6/24,25

50 on 6/4,5




Site


Summer
Days 90 degrees or warmer
Summer Days 90 degrees or warmer difference from normal
Indianapolis

8

-7
Lafayette

10

-11 (E)
Muncie

8

-6 (E)
Terre Haute

10

-14 (E)
Bloomington

3

-15 (E)
Shelbyville

4

-7 (E)
Indy – Eagle Crk.

5

-10 (E)
(E) above indicates Esitmated Data

Precipitation

Central Indiana was split in terms of precipitation during the summer, with many areas north of Interstate 70 seeing below normal precipitation and areas south of I-70 seeing above normal precipitation. Muncie had a little over 50% of the rainfall normally seen during the summer, while Indianapolis had 130%. It was an even wetter summer just south and east of Indianapolis. Portions of Shelby, Decatur, Brown, Bartholomew, Jackson and Jennings counites received over 20 inches of rain during the summer. This is nearly twice the normal summer rainfall.



Site

Summer 2009 Precipitation

Summer 2009 Difference from Normal

Wettest Day
Indianapolis

16.14

+3.77

3.81” on 8/4
Lafayette

11.38

-0.54

2.76” on 6/1-2
Muncie

6.80

-4.95

1.54” on 8/19-20
Terre Haute

11.25

-1.02

1.96” on 8/19-20
Bloomington

14.87

+2.49

2.45" on 7/21-22
Shelbyville

13.68

+2.23

2.86” on 8/4
Indy – Eagle Crk.

14.64

+2.27

3.77” on 8/4

Fall 2009 Outlook

The official outlook for Fall 2009 (September, October, November), from the Climate Prediction Center, indicates equal chances of above, below, or near normal values of temperatures and precipitation across the area.



Data prepared by NWS Indianapolis Climate Services Team.
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Quoting IKE:


I've got a great comeback but don't feel like being banned!


I want to hear it. there isnt anything going on tropical right let it rip...
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Quoting TreasureCoastFl:
I agree with that. I do my best to purchase climate friendly solutions for my every day needs. If they just weren't so darn expensive... hmmm, imagine that? ;)


Eh, I think mass interest would drive the costs down. Green products are cheaper than they were ten years ago. We'll see, right? :-D
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Everybody always picks on N. Korea and Cuba what about China, oh that's right, that's where we get all our crap. Model of capitalism now I suppose.
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Quoting TreasureCoastFl:
Wait! There's meat in the Big Mac?!
10 percent meat by-produts 90 percent soybean = 100 percent big mac
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468. IKE
Quoting presslord:


How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?!?!?!?!


I've got a great comeback but don't feel like being banned!
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Quoting Chicklit:
If you're on the Right then you don't believe manmade global warming due to CO2 emmissions, if you're on the Left or middle, then you do, or at least are willing to listen to the arguments.
To be informed, one must be willing to listen to both sides.
Politics and science somehow are linked on the global warming issue. But then the same people want to link religion with politics.


The problem is that when one has invested so much time believing in an idea (whatever the idea is), it is hard to get them to admit the error in their ways. They would rather stick fingers in their ears and say la ti da ti da over and over again to drown out what they don't want to hear or are too embarassesd to accept. Folks, admitting when one is wrong is not a slam on ones intelligence. In fact, it shows a higher level of intelligence.
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Quoting TreasureCoastFl:
We could show money to be made on both sides. I personally believe there is more to be made by more people and corporations "for it" than "against it" By the way, I have seen claims made of money changing hands from the fossil fuel industry which have been proven false as well.


They *openly* offer a $10k prize *per denialist paper*. Point to anything even remotely comparable on the other side. The fossil fuel industry is responsible for *trillions* of dollars of economic activity worldwide. There's nothing even remotely comparable to that.

The overwhelming majority of published climatologists work for public universities, which means low pay. And published climatologists are approximately 97% likely to state that the Earth is warming and about an equivalent percent to state that that humans are responsible for climate change.
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Quoting TStormSC:

I was beginning to think that Press had started the Labor Day weekend a touch "early."


It's 5 o'clock somewhere...Btw TStormSC...got it today...Thanks!
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Quoting rwdobson:
It really used to be that way in the US. Private fire departments. It didn't work out so well.

Worked great when you paid your dues. They'd just keep the flames off the neighbors when you didn't.
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Quoting IKE:


FOUR!


that is usually what i get on a par 5!!
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Quoting presslord:


How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?!?!?!?!
Hmmm, well with the big mac meat, I'd rather eat another brick on the wall ;)
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461. IKE
Quoting justalurker:


yeah nice, i can finally play golf on Monday now..


FOUR!
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415. JupiterFL 4:57 PM GMT on September 04, 2009
I think Obama posted on the blog last year. Has he been around lately? Maybe he could add some commentary.

Cue guy with all the screen names....


lmao THAT WAS ME!
It's really sad how gullible some of the people on here are...

Anyways I'll go back to lurking but great job with all the forecasts so far...this blog is better than its ever been!

WUNDERGROUND HIGH FIVE!

now back to the season already in session...
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Quoting presslord:


How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?!?!?!?!


*SPORFLE*
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Break time.. erika still gone?
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Quoting TreasureCoastFl:
Wait! There's meat in the Big Mac?!


How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?!?!?!?!
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456. Murko
Quoting hydrus:
MURKO--As the weather goes, things are starting to look a little interesting south of you.


Thanks, keeping an eye on it... It doesn't help that there's no longer forecast tracks for ex-Erika here.
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Quoting IKE:
Can anyone blame the NHC for RIP-ing this?




yeah nice, i can finally play golf on Monday now..
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Quoting morebeachtime:


That's Press, my beverage is now on my keyboard.....hilarious

I was beginning to think that Press had started the Labor Day weekend a touch "early."
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"NO GOVERNMENT CONTROL of healsth care or anything for that matter."

So, I assume when your house catches on fire, you won't be calling the fire department, right. You'll just use a private fire-fighting service, since the private sector is always better.

It really used to be that way in the US. Private fire departments. It didn't work out so well.
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apocalyps2 and your still here
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Quoting apocalyps2:

convention is outstanding


are you referring to "the convention of Erika"?
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450. IKE
Can anyone blame the NHC for RIP-ing this?


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Quoting JupiterFL:


Well if your not going to eat the meat patty on your McDonald's Big Mac then I'll take it!


Haha, no temptation there. I always made mine on the grill, after a half hour in the fridge in a bag with some nice acid-y Italian dressing. Most tender burgers ever. And now we're straying from the blog topic so I'll quit, :)
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Quoting Chicklit:
If you're on the Right then you don't believe manmade global warming due to CO2 emmissions, if you're on the Left or middle, then you do, or at least are willing to listen to the arguments.
To be informed, one must be willing to listen to both sides.
Politics and science somehow are linked on the global warming issue. But then the same people want to link religion with politics.
Quoting JupiterFL:


Well if your not going to eat the meat patty on your McDonald's Big Mac then I'll take it!
Wait! There's meat in the Big Mac?!
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Quoting xoverau:
Even if we can't agree on the causes of climate change or if it's unnatural, even if you think that pollutants (man-made and otherwise) are only affecting allergies and asthma for kids and the eldery, or killing a couple fish, it seems like we can all agree they're not beneficial. I mean, idle your car in a garage for a while and you know breathing exhaust isn't fun. Sure, reducing your impact on the environment may not singlehandedly fix it, but I figure, why not do a helpful thing rather than a not-helpful thing?

I heard someone once talk about the impact of commercial beef on the environment (deforestation, water production, shipping, processing, etc) with the humorous metaphor "It's better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a steak in a Prius". So I decided to cut out just commercially produced beef from my diet. I still eat pork and chicken and fish and any game animal man can shoot or trap in the wild. I still eat beef from a local farm that has only a small herd and has been lauded by the state's environmental board for balanced farming--when I can afford it, heh. And man, it tastes good.

If it's accomplished nothing else, it means I feel a little better about driving a gas car. :)


I am perfectly fine with that. What I do not a gree is a group of inmoral politicians telling me I have to do it when they live la vida loca in their lear jets. Sorry I believe in freedom of choice and free will. If you love government control I can suggest a couple of places perhaps CUba or hey North Korea I herad they have and awesome universal diet program there. Do not destroy the only decent p[lace in the workd to live I have been all around the world and all I did when I travelled was to think about going back home, The USA.

FREEDOM,
FREE WILL,
FREE MARKETS
NO GOVERNMENT CONTROL of healsth care or anything for that matter.
BE independent please queit depending on big brother.

if you feel like driving a Prius do it but let it be your decision not the decision of a small elite. or you will regret it in the future.
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Quoting presslord:
...btw...What, exactly, is a "Golden Panther"?
It's a panther that ran through a golden shower;) I jest. I'm an FIU alum so I can makes inoucuous jokes about my alma mater.
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Quoting CaneHunter031472:
What in the heck are you people talking about global warming when the hottes it has gotten this summer in the northern states is about 70 degrees. Here is nthe southit has been feeling like fall since mid august and about a week ago the record low was broken with temperatures of 64 degrees. We could be all freezing and there will be people who still argue about global warming. What the heck is that, and the ones who talk down on humanity what the heck are you all Chimps or dogs I mean we might not be perfect, but who are you instead of pointing the greatness of humanity all you do is trash it. Let me make this clear. Whether you like it or not, Humans are the DOMINANT species on the planet. We RULE this planet we USE its resources for our benefit if the polar bear have a problem with that he can go ahead and go enxtinct and so as the LIBERALS it is called NATURAL SELECTION get over that k. Global warming hog wash it has been debunked. Dr. Masters all due respect you are the owner of this blog but if you do nto want your credibility affected I suggest that when you explain a subject like this you also add the other side of the story such as Solar output and the fact that warming was also experienced in other planets such as mars. Please explain that a good expalnation to the melting of the caps in the artci can be due to underwater volcanoes which have been pretty active lately and also explain what in the heck is the problem with warming to start with? LIFE THRIVES IN WARM ENVIRONMENTS.

Thank you all
have a nice day.


Another well reasoned, eloquent post denying the possibility of climate change.

Why don't you ask the people in San Antonio, Austin, or Seattle how nice and cool it's been this Summer?
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Ok well i am off to earn a living. off topic but good to see so many that care! you folks be nice
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Quoting JupiterFL:


I think I had that one time. Is it bad?
i don't know but for some reason it sounds bad
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Station 42059
NDBC
Location: 15.1624N 66.377W
Conditions as of:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:50:00 UTC
Winds: SSE (150°) at 15.5 kt gusting to 19.4 kt
Significant Wave Height: 4.6 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 6 sec
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.90 in and falling
Air Temperature: 85.1 F
Dew Point: 77.0 F
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but before that possible maximum solar cycle may pop up as well we can call it a peak change of events

lol

429. CaneHunter031472 5:06 PM GMT on September 04, 2009
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
if ya think global warming is a problem wait till ya see the pole shift


I know and they might blame it on my SUV...
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439. IKE
Global Warming and the Tropical Atlantic have something in common>>>>
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
if ya think global warming is a problem wait till ya see the pole shift


I think I had that one time. Is it bad?
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Quoting xoverau:
Even if we can't agree on the causes of climate change or if it's unnatural, even if you think that pollutants (man-made and otherwise) are only affecting allergies and asthma for kids and the eldery, or killing a couple fish, it seems like we can all agree they're not beneficial. I mean, idle your car in a garage for a while and you know breathing exhaust isn't fun. Sure, reducing your impact on the environment may not singlehandedly fix it, but I figure, why not do a helpful thing rather than a not-helpful thing?

I heard someone once talk about the impact of commercial beef on the environment (deforestation, water production, shipping, processing, etc) with the humorous metaphor "It's better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a steak in a Prius". So I decided to cut out just commercially produced beef from my diet. I still eat pork and chicken and fish and any game animal man can shoot or trap in the wild. I still eat beef from a local farm that has only a small herd and has been lauded by the state's environmental board for balanced farming--when I can afford it, heh. And man, it tastes good.

If it's accomplished nothing else, it means I feel a little better about driving a gas car. :)
I agree with that. I do my best to purchase climate friendly solutions for my every day needs. If they just weren't so darn expensive... hmmm, imagine that? ;)
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Quoting JupiterFL:
I am all for Global Warming. If it was warmer in New York then maybe their residents would stay there...
...and food can be grown later in the season in Canada and North Dakota...but those darn polar bears and penguins....oh the tradeoffs in life;)
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Doesn't the golden panther exist somewhere in the Carolinas. Had to override spell ck to post this. I see your point Presslord.
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Quoting lickitysplit:
Wow. When faced with science the anti-climate change mob really flips out!


focus , ok focus, read the many post above! for every scientific fact you can provide the other side can as well. So please dont use that tired old line just to stir the pot.
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Quoting xoverau:
Even if we can't agree on the causes of climate change or if it's unnatural, even if you think that pollutants (man-made and otherwise) are only affecting allergies and asthma for kids and the eldery, or killing a couple fish, it seems like we can all agree they're not beneficial. I mean, idle your car in a garage for a while and you know breathing exhaust isn't fun. Sure, reducing your impact on the environment may not singlehandedly fix it, but I figure, why not do a helpful thing rather than a not-helpful thing?

I heard someone once talk about the impact of commercial beef on the environment (deforestation, water production, shipping, processing, etc) with the humorous metaphor "It's better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a steak in a Prius". So I decided to cut out just commercially produced beef from my diet. I still eat pork and chicken and fish and any game animal man can shoot or trap in the wild. I still eat beef from a local farm that has only a small herd and has been lauded by the state's environmental board for balanced farming--when I can afford it, heh. And man, it tastes good.

If it's accomplished nothing else, it means I feel a little better about driving a gas car. :)


Well if your not going to eat the meat patty on your McDonald's Big Mac then I'll take it!
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Quoting KarenRei:


There *literally* is. Defending industry is lucrative. Public research jobs are not. The tobacco industry did the same thing -- hired scientists and paid them top dollar to produce denial "research". Here's info on the information campaign sponsored by $16m Exxon-Mobil, for example. Here's more. They even have a cash prize for publishing denials.

If you have a degree and want to make a mint, start publishing global warming denial for the fossil fuel industry. You certainly won't make that kind of money working at a public university. Where you're *also* allowed to publish denials, so long as they pass peer review.
We could show money to be made on both sides. I personally believe there is more to be made by more people and corporations "for it" than "against it" By the way, I have seen claims made of money changing hands from the fossil fuel industry which have been proven false as well.
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Wow. When faced with science the anti-climate change mob really flips out!
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
if ya think global warming is a problem wait till ya see the pole shift


I know and they might blame it on my SUV...
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Even if we can't agree on the causes of climate change or if it's unnatural, even if you think that pollutants (man-made and otherwise) are only affecting allergies and asthma for kids and the eldery, or killing a couple fish, it seems like we can all agree they're not beneficial. I mean, idle your car in a garage for a while and you know breathing exhaust isn't fun. Sure, reducing your impact on the environment may not singlehandedly fix it, but I figure, why not do a helpful thing rather than a not-helpful thing?

I heard someone once talk about the impact of commercial beef on the environment (deforestation, water production, shipping, processing, etc) with the humorous metaphor "It's better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a steak in a Prius". So I decided to cut out just commercially produced beef from my diet. I still eat pork and chicken and fish and any game animal man can shoot or trap in the wild. I still eat beef from a local farm that has only a small herd and has been lauded by the state's environmental board for balanced farming--when I can afford it, heh. And man, it tastes good.

If it's accomplished nothing else, it means I feel a little better about driving a gas car. :)
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Quoting CaneHunter031472:
What in the heck are you people talking about global warming when the hottes it has gotten this summer in the northern states is about 70 degrees. Here is nthe southit has been feeling like fall since mid august and about a week ago the record low was broken with temperatures of 64 degrees. We could be all freezing and there will be people who still argue about global warming. What the heck is that, and the ones who talk down on humanity what the heck are you all Chimps or dogs I mean we might not be perfect, but who are you instead of pointing the greatness of humanity all you do is trash it. Let me make this clear. Whether you like it or not, Humans are the DOMINANT species on the planet. We RULE this planet we USE its resources for our benefit if the polar bear have a problem with that he can go ahead and go enxtinct and so as the LIBERALS it is called NATURAL SELECTION get over that k. Global warming hog wash it has been debunked. Dr. Masters all due respect you are the owner of this blog but if you do nto want your credibility affected I suggest that when you explain a subject like this you also add the other side of the story such as Solar output and the fact that warming was also experienced in other planets such as mars. Please explain that a good expalnation to the melting of the caps in the artci can be due to underwater volcanoes which have been pretty active lately and also explain what in the heck is the problem with warming to start with? LIFE THRIVES IN WARM ENVIRONMENTS.

Thank you all
have a nice day.
if ya think global warming is a problem wait till ya see the pole shift
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Quoting presslord:
...btw...What, exactly, is a "Golden Panther"?


Its the same thing as a Florida Panther but the name:
Florida International University Florida Panthers just sounds ridiculous.
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.