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Danny weakens; not likely to become a hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:39 PM GMT on August 27, 2009 +2
Tropical Storm Danny has weakened. Data from the Hurricane Hunters between 2 - 3 pm EDT showed top winds of just 40 - 45 mph at the surface. Satellite intensity estimates of Danny's strength have also declined since this morning. Danny's satellite appearance is pretty unconventional, and the storm doesn't look much like a tropical cyclone. The low level circulation center is exposed to view, with the heaviest thunderstorms lying several hundred miles east of the center. The center has remained nearly stationary the past four hours, and has grown less distinct. It is possible that a new center will form up to 100 miles to the east, in the region with the heaviest thunderstorm activity. Danny has already undergone several center relocations over the past 12 hours.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image at 3:17 pm EDT of Danny, showing the exposed swirl of clouds where Danny's center is, well displaced from the heaviest thunderstorm activity to the east.

The forecast for Danny
There's not much new to report from the latest set of 12Z model runs for Danny. The models have pretty much maintained their previous forecast, calling for Danny to intensify to a Category 1 hurricane by Saturday morning, and pass close to both Cape Hatteras, NC, and Cape Cod, MA. Given that the models did not correctly forecast Danny's current struggles, I believe it is unlikely that Danny will attain hurricane strength. Dry air from the upper-level low that has been keeping Danny disorganized continues to be a problem for the storm, despite the presence of moderate wind shear of 10 - 15 knots. Danny only has about 24 hours of relatively favorable wind shear left, and that is probably not enough time to intensify into a hurricane. By Friday night, a trough of low pressure will approach the U.S. East Coast and bring high wind shear of 20 - 35 knots. Danny will be close enough to this trough that the trough may be able to feed energy to Danny as the trough converts Danny to an extratropical storm. As a result, Danny may not weaken only slowly. A landfall in Cape Cod, eastern Maine, or Nova Scotia as a tropical storm with 45 - 55 mph winds is a reasonable forecast.


Figure 3. Tropical wave 94L off the coast of Africa.

Invest 94L off the coast of Africa
A well-organized tropical wave (94L) lies a few hundred miles southwest of the Cape Verdes Islands, near the coast of Africa. This disturbance continues to look more organized on satellite imagery. Shear is low, about 10 knots, and waters are warm enough to support continued development. The dry Saharan Air Layer is relatively limited in extent and intensity, so dry air may have only a small inhibiting effect on the wave. Expect continued development of this wave as it moves westward over the next few days. NHC is giving this system a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday. This system is moving rather slowly, 10 - 15 mph. The GFDL and HWRF models both predict 94L will be a Category 1 hurricane five days from now. These models also predict that 94L will take a significant northward jog 3 - 5 days from now, in response to a strong trough of low pressure passing to the north (this is the same trough of low pressure that will be recurving Danny out to sea).

I'll have an update Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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53. WPBHurricane05 8:03 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Danny kind of looks like a TW rather than a TS.
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54. justalurker 8:03 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Just like Bill...94L probably wont make it to the islands.
yeah it can also go to florida win the lottery and leave for a long vacation.
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55. ConchHondros 8:03 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Flood latest run showing the jog or more like a tug with resumption of a wnw track...also baja or maybe socal threat...
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56. cyclonekid 8:03 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
hmmmm...thanks doc.

Danny is not looking good. Any chance for depression at 5pm or 11pm for 94L?
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57. KarenRei 8:04 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
So I guess the CMC over-hyped Danny?


I guess water is wet and the sky is blue.
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58. Floodman 8:04 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Bonedog:
thanks flood =)


De nada...
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61. MississippiWx 8:06 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting OSUWXGUY:


Good afternoon MississippiWX!

Plenty of convergence evident that's for sure... Don't see a lot in the way of cyclonic turning with 94L yet though.


Afternoon! Yeah, there is some slight turning evident, but not enough to warrant depression status by any means. Getting there, though.
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62. IKE 8:05 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
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63. BahaHurican 8:05 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    




Note former 93L is already orange....
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64. nolacane2009 8:05 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
When does everyone think that 94 will become a TS?
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68. largeeyes 8:06 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
SYNOPSIS...
-- Changed Discussion --TROPICAL STORM DANNY NORTHEAST OF THE BAHAMAS TONIGHT WILL TRACK
NORTHWEST TOWARD THE UNITED STATES COAST THROUGH FRIDAY...TURN
NORTHEAST OFF CAPE HATTERAS FRIDAY NIGHT...AND MOVE WELL NORTH
OF THE AREA ON SATURDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH THE REGION
FROM THE NORTHWEST LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND MOVE SLOWLY THROUGH
THE AREA MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT. THE FRONT WILL STALL OFF THE
COAST AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY

SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY/...
-- Changed Discussion --EFFECTS OF TS DANNY WILL HIGHLIGHT THIS FCST PERIOD. HAVE SENT
PRELIMINARY FORECAST PRODUCTS FOR NOW PENDING ANY NECESSARY
UPDATES AFTER NHC COORDINATION CALL.

CENTER OF DANNY HAD BECOME EXPOSED WEST OF THE MAIN CONVECTION
EARLIER TODAY BUT DENSE OVERCAST NOW OBSCURING THE LOW LEVEL
CIRCULATION. TRACK GUIDANCE HAS GRADUALLY COME INTO BETTER
AGREEMENT WILL A SLIGHT NUDGE TO THE WEST NOTED IN THE LATEST
MODEL RUNS. DANNY STILL EXPECTED TO REMAIN FAR ENOUGH OFFSHORE
THAT THE MAIN IMPACTS WILL LARGELY BE FELT ALONG COASTAL AREAS
AND IN PARTICULAR THE OUTER BANKS.
EXPECT INCREASING WIND AND PCPN CHCS AS DANNY APPROACHES THE SE
NC COAST FRIDAY. LIKELY TO SEE TROPICAL DOWNPOURS ALONG THE COAST
WITH GRADUALLY DECREASING PCPN CHCS AND INTENSITY INLAND. MAIN
BRUNT OF THE STORM WILL BE FELT FROM LATE FRIDAY AFTN INTO FRIDAY
EVE AS DANNY MAKES ITS CLOSEST PASS TO CAPE HATTERAS THEN SHUD SEE
DECREASING PCPN CHCS EARLY SAT MORNING AS DANNY TRACKS NE OF THE VA
COAST. CUD BE A TIGHT GRADIENT WRT TO QPF AMOUNTS AVERAGING ABOUT
AN INCH (WITH HIGHER LOCALIZED TOTALS) FOR OUTER BANKS TO LESS
THAN ONE HALF INCH INLAND. SUBSIDENCE BEHIND DANNY SHUD LIMIT PCPN
CHCS SAT AFTN.-- End Changed Discussion --
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69. OSUWXGUY 8:06 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
94L is still imbedded in the ITCZ, and will take a while to organize still.

Impressive pull of moisture from a ways away...reminds me a bit of Bill!

70. hydrus 8:06 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneCavalier:
Dr. M's 94L forecast for the layman:

Get out of Florida now! Run! Forget the ply wood, gas up the truck and run!
Quoting HurricaneCavalier:
REality check: since Danny is forecasted to not strengthen into a hurricane, this blog will see fewer posts on that subject.

The meat on the bones is now a wave of certain doom off the coast of Africa. I'll spend the next 5 days contacting my attorney and drafting my last will and testament, for I reside in Florida.

Yes-Category-7 and a half hurricane Erika slices the state of Florida in two.Instead of North Florida and South Florida,we can just call it (The Florida,s).
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71. Floodman 8:06 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting ConchHondros:
Flood latest run showing the jog or more like a tug with resumption of a wnw track...also baja or maybe socal threat...


I saw that...minimal chance of the soCal hit but it would make for an interesting season; as soon as that would happen something would come rub on SEFL.

How you today, Conch?
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72. Bonedog 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
cant wait to see the 5pm to see if they west shift the cone. I am not counting Danny out by any means, heck its getting ready run into some boiling waters then take the gulf stream north into that baroclonic zone.

Might be a surprise player this weekend. Might not be a cane but still a player.
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74. fmbill 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
The 18z NAM is showing Danny will turn toward the NNE at a lower latitude than previous runs. I guess the "stall" will keep him off shore completely.

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75. AllStar17 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
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76. ssmate 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BrockBerlin:


Wow thanks for the update did you know they have a new tropical storm named Danny?

link?
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77. ConchHondros 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BrockBerlin:


I am sorry can you clarify which system you are talking about.


94L and former 93L
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78. TexasHurricane 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
These models also predict that 94L will take a significant northward jog 3 - 5 days from now, in response to a strong trough of low pressure passing to the north (this is the same trough of low pressure that will be recurving Danny out to sea).

So, I guess this one will be an east coast or fish storm as well?
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80. TheDawnAwakening 8:07 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
94L could become a tropical cyclone tomorrow. Showing excellent organization and signs of a strong surface circulation. Banding is improving as well as overall outflow and increasing amount of convection. This is the one to watch. Danny could be reforming a newer center to the east of the older one. Danny is not looking healthy at this time and I am wondering if he will ever be a pure tropical cyclone.
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81. LBAR 8:08 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Danny's COC is stalled...interesting.
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82. Stormchaser2007 8:08 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting cyclonekid:
hmmmm...thanks doc.

Danny is not looking good. Any chance for depression at 5pm or 11pm for 94L?


No. It has no defined surface circulation as of now.
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83. justalurker 8:09 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


I saw that...minimal chance of the soCal hit but it would make for an interesting season; as soon as that would happen something would come rub on SEFL.

How you today, Conch?


dont be rubbing that crystal ball yet ..flood.
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84. nolacane2009 8:09 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting LBAR:
Danny's COC is stalled...interesting.


What does that mean?
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85. 900MB 8:09 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
I just hope that Danny is not to 94L as
Henri was to Gloria back in 1985.
Want some good old John Hope flashbacks to The Weather Channel circa 1985?
Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyWcNZyAIgE&feature=related
Amazing how technology has changed, but we are still flying in the dark.
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86. IKE 8:09 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:


How much longer are you going to continually "shrug off" or "downcast" storms? What do you think of 94L? No chance of development, right?


I never said anything negative about 94L.

As far as Danny...looks terrible.

How long are you going to give it a shot of doing anything significant?
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87. hydrus 8:09 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Danny is a cloud with a breeze next to it.
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88. ConchHondros 8:10 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


I saw that...minimal chance of the soCal hit but it would make for an interesting season; as soon as that would happen something would come rub on SEFL.

How you today, Conch?


Doin good Flood...seriously thinking about taking a nap,or watching tivo'ed mosterquest...I am torn...6 on 1
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90. 900MB 8:11 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting fmbill:
The 18z NAM is showing Danny will turn toward the NNE at a lower latitude than previous runs. I guess the "stall" will keep him off shore completely.


Your lips to God's ears!
Bodes well for my Giants/Jets game Sat night!
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91. OBXNC 8:11 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
this always happens to the obx ... if ana lived as long as she did danny can get one more advisory as a ts with the recent reports.

alex, ophelia, on and on ... interesting systems like this always get discounted and then we end up getting strong hits here "unexpectedly".

we're all watching closely here ... clouds are spinning over warm water ... always makes us nervous :)
94. Stormchaser2007 8:13 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
The NHC would follow the TVCN.

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96. Floodman 8:13 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Bonedog:
cant wait to see the 5pm to see if they west shift the cone. I am not counting Danny out by any means, heck its getting ready run into some boiling waters then take the gulf stream north into that baroclonic zone.

Might be a surprise player this weekend. Might not be a cane but still a player.


Never discount a tropical system; conditions can change rapidly and intensification and course changes can be pretty drastic
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98. NRAamy 8:13 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
That's why they say its good to hit the range and the putting green before a round...

I think I'd golf better after a round...
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99. saintsfan06 8:14 PM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Where did DestinJeff go???
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