Western Caribbean disturbance unlikely to develop this week

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:57 PM GMT on June 07, 2009

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An area of disturbed weather is bringing some heavy rains to Nicaragua and Honduras and the adjacent waters of the Western Caribbean. This disturbance has generated 2 - 3 inches of rain over these countries over the past two days, and is likely to bring an additional 2 - 3 inches of rain to northeastern Honduras and Nicaragua over the next two days. The disturbance is expected to gradually drift northwards, bringing heavy rain to the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, and Cuba by Monday or Tuesday. The disturbance is under prohibitively high wind shear of 30 - 40 knots, and is not a threat to develop today or Monday. Some of the computer models are predicting wind shear may fall low enough to allow development of this system 4 - 7 days from now, but the models have been rather inconsistent in the location and timing of any such development. For now, the chances of a tropical depression forming from this disturbance within the next week appear low, less than 30%.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of the Western Caribbean disturbance.

I'll have an update Monday.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
No need to apologize....I wish you the best...but like others earlier, you should have just come out and said you were JFV instead of misleading us. Not a big deal.


I'm very sorry, because I know for a fact that you've been one of those bloggers on here which has looked out for me since the initial get-go of everything, and for that, I'll be forever grateful. Once again, I'm sorry Jeffrey.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


You another Lake Worth / Palm Springs blogger? I think we rule tonight!

NO i was on Palm Beach Island The storm covered half the county remeber
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
No need to apologize....I wish you the best...but like others have stated earlier, you should have just come out and said you were JFV instead of misleading us. Not a big deal.
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Quoting stormwatcherCI:
The "blob" actually looks more impressive than 91 E


91 E doesn't have cloudtops which are quite as cold, but it does have some banding features and indications of good outflow (the "feathering" at the cloud edges).
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


You another Lake Worth / Palm Springs blogger? I think we rule tonight!

Palm beach county rocks
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Quoting Acemmett90:

would be bad but just alot of rain how about the storm in lake worth today the thunder shook the house


You another Lake Worth / Palm Springs blogger? I think we rule tonight!
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
No need to apologize....I wish you the best...but like others earlier, you should have just come out and said you were JFV instead of misleading us. Not a big deal.


I must've missed this memo.
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Quoting stormwatcherCI:
The "blob" actually looks more impressive than 91 E


Maybe Is less organised but it too early to tell on both of them and who knows mother nature is unpredictible
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758. ackee
any one think the convection in the sw carrb will be an invest ?
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if it was august i would already be warning of a T.C.F.A.
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No need to apologize....I wish you the best...but like others earlier, you should have just come out and said you were JFV instead of misleading us. Not a big deal.
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wait till august
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The "blob" actually looks more impressive than 91 E
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Geez Keeeper..could you imagine if that was off the Gulf or Fla. coasts?
it would'nt be pretty
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Geez Keeeper..could you imagine if that was off the Gulf or Fla. coasts?

would be bad but just alot of rain how about the storm in lake worth today the thunder shook the house
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Even though I joked with you a lot last season...you were always leved-headed about what was going on...Other bloggers, pay attention to Extreme when he posts. (Not to much pressure on you)


I definatly am going to try to take a bit more conservative approach to things this year. It can be too easy to get caught up in certain systems, be they invests or cyclones. Still out to learn more though :)
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Geez Keeeper..could you imagine if that was off the Gulf or Fla. coasts?
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also honduras:

http://www.smn.gob.hn/web/
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
JFV…you are going to school for meteorology….are you implanting on this blog what you have learned? All of us rookies would like to learn something from those who are actually studying the subject.


I recently changed my college major to Political Science, bro! Sorry about that, :)
I found the Nicaragua met service website:
http://www.ineter.gob.ni/
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Even though I joked with you a lot last season...you were always leved-headed about what was going on...Other bloggers, pay attention to Extreme when he posts. (Not to much pressure on you)
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I look foward to talking more with you guys During the rest of the season but i gotta go night too all
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
you too extreme...always looked forward to your posts


I've been trying to find more time to spend on the blog, but I've been busy with some other things that have kept me from spending hours of time on the blog like last year.
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you too extreme...always looked forward to your posts
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Quoting TheCaneWhisperer:


I've witnessed many of Tropical Storm that would give their right nut to have convection like that.


Amen to that.
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JFV…you are going to school for meteorology….are you implanting on this blog what you have learned? All of us rookies would like to learn something from those who are actually studying the subject.
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Quoting weatherwatcher12:

lol

In a robert Denero voice
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Good Night all! will check in at work tomm
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Quoting IKE:


Heck of a puff.


I've witnessed many of Tropical Storm that would give their right nut to have convection like that.
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Quoting Acemmett90:

Hey you trying to copy me lol jk

lol
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
extreme...good to see you again...(I'm the guy who always asked you last season if a wave coming off of Africa would ruin my weekend two weeks later)


Ah hey lol...good to see you
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later stormw
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Quoting weatherwatcher12:
Here is a wv view of the caribbean


Hey you trying to copy me lol jk
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Here is a wv view of the caribbean

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Heres a good IR view of the Atlantic Ocean
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Precipitable water off the charts now in our AOI. Note the tropical wave approaching, and another emerging off of Africa at a higher latitude.
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Quoting Ossqss:
Hummm, am I seeing this model right?


LOL. Nice pic there.
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Quoting StormW:


Actually, it should keep waxing and waning...the diffluent flow aloft is aiding in the divergence (posted earlier). The longer the divergence aloft sticks over that area, the bettter chance at seeing a possible surface reflection of the feature...not to mention that an upward motion pulse of the MJO is currently over the "blob"


Gotcha, thanks for that clarification. You're phenomenal. Storm.
Quoting kmanislander:
As I suspected QS missed the area tonight but from what I can see off the coast of Nicaragua there is no rotation at the surface.

Will check back in the morning. Good night all.

Descending Quikscat pass this evening
night kman keep yer eyes to the skies friend
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Quoting extreme236:


Pretty rare for a map to kill hope for development wouldnt you say?

Normally, yes. But short and medium term, a storm needs vorticity at all levels to really get going, most importantly at the surface. With higher near-surface vorticity levels found in places like the great plains.. I'm not holding my breath. The blob is being held together more by upper level divergence and a bit of instability, rather than anything tropical in nature.
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Hummm, am I seeing this model right?

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Quoting hahaguy:
What ya puffing on there keep?

LOL
whatever ya got
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I guess we're all poofcasters
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I thought, I noticed on the latest wvapor the upper lows might be starting to move eastward. Which may reduce shear in Caribbean in a few days.
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As I suspected QS missed the area tonight but from what I can see off the coast of Nicaragua there is no rotation at the surface.

Will check back in the morning. Good night all.

Descending Quikscat pass this evening
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717. beell
694.
Been there all day.

Been there prior to June 1.
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