Outspoken hurricane scientist Ivor van Heerden cut loose by LSU

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 12:38 PM GMT on April 14, 2009

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Louisiana State University (LSU) will not renew the contract of controversial hurricane scientist Ivor van Heerden, according to nola.com . Dr. van Heerden has been stripped of his title as deputy director of the LSU Hurricane Center, and will lose his job in May 2010. The Director of the LSU Hurricane Center, engineering professor Marc Levitan, resigned from that post in protest over the firing of van Heerden. LSU has given no reason why it is removing Dr. van Heerden, but said it was not because of his performance. Van Heerden, who holds a Ph.D. degree in marine sciences from LSU, was one of the most outspoken scientists on the vulnerability of New Orleans before Katrina struck in 2005. He worked extensively with FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers, and political figures at the local, state, and U.S. Congressional levels to try to improve New Orleans' disaster readiness. In the aftermath of the storm, he provided support for the search and rescue efforts and plugging of the levee breaches, then headed one of the teams assigned to figure out what caused the levees to fail. PBS's NOVA did a nice story on him in 2006, featuring interviews before and after Katrina. He was highly critical of the Army Corps of Engineers and politicians at the local, state, and federal level for allowing the Katrina disaster to happen, and for their abysmal response to the storm's aftermath.

It is no surprise that van Heerden has been fired, as he has also been very critical of the LSU administration. His May 2006 book, The Storm: What went wrong and why during Hurricane Katrina--the inside story from one Louisiana scientist, (see my review), tells of a case in November 2005 after Katrina where two LSU assistant chancellors told him to stop talking to the press, because it was "hurting LSU's quest for federal funding across the board." Van Heerden further remarked:

A balanced view on research is lacking at many universities obsessed with competing for the big brownie points, where upper administrators' egos and boasting rights are more important than solving problems to the benefit of society at large. You would think that our work before, during, and after Katrina might have turned some heads at LSU, but not really. Witness the gag order placed on me by the school during the levee investigation a couple of months later (soon rescinded with apologies)

Van Heerden is a big proponent of building a flood protection system that will protect Louisiana from a Category 5 hurricane. He proposes doing this by restoring wetlands, building armored levees, and installing huge flood gates on Lake Pontchartrain, similar to what the Dutch use to protect their country from the North Sea. I especially like his emphasis on the importance of doing good science. He is not a fan of what politicians and business leaders do with good science:

The science is the easy part. The hard part is overcoming the narrow-mindedness and selfishness of politics and business as usual. For decades the two have undermined plan after plan to restore wetlands, build new ones, and thereby protect people and property. They have played hell with improving the existing levee system. We must do better now, or we can kiss it all good-bye for good. I was not exaggerating in the introduction when I said that politics and business as usual in Louisiana will eventually put everything below Interstate 10 underwater. Science and engineering can save the day, but not if they're censored or manipulated. If that's to be the case, just shelve them and start packing. It's over.

According to an article in The Nation, Dr. van Heerden is scheduled to testify in a trial that begins in federal court on April 20. Judge Stanwood Duval will rule on a claim by six homeowners that the Corps failed to heed environmental laws in building and maintaining the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet shipping shortcut, which they claim led to the catastrophic flooding of New Orleans during Katrina. A second trial will begin shortly after that--a large class action suit seeking hundreds of millions in damages from the Corps. When Dr. van Heerden was first asked to testify at these trials in spring 2007, LSU's then-president, Sean O'Keefe, told plaintiffs' attorneys that if van Heerden testified against the Corps he would be fired (O'Keefe had served as head of NASA under George W. Bush between 2001 - 2005, and stepped down as LSU chancellor in January 2008). According to van Heerden, the LSU president said "nobody from LSU was going to embarrass the Bush administration or upset the major Republican companies that benefit from Corps of Engineers contracts." LSU has officially blocked Dr. van Heerden from testifying as an "expert witness" in the upcoming trials, but he can still testify as a "fact witness".

Regardless of where he winds up next, I'm sure Van Heerden will continue to voice his valuable views on the science of what is best for Louisiana and New Orleans. In an interview with the Associated Press, Dr. van Heerden said Friday he would appeal the college's decision and was considering legal action. "Before going that route, I hope LSU will recognize the signal they've sent to the world is that academic freedom does not exist at LSU. The folks who are going to lose in this is LSU, not me. I will find a job rather easily. There have already been some offers."

Less politics and better science would go a long ways towards reducing our vulnerability to hurricanes. Ivor van Heerden has been a much-needed critical voice in advocating this, and I applaud his tenacity in calling it as he sees it. Louisiana very much needs Dr. van Heerden's input over the coming decades on how to move ahead to protect the vulnerable coast of the state against the twin threats of hurricanes and rising sea levels. The move by Louisiana's flagship university to silence his voice should concern everyone in the path of the next Katrina.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting hahaguy:


That seems like quite a few for May.


Nah... I agree:

May: 1 - 4 Tropical Depressions and 1 - 3 Named Storms
June: 2 -5 Named Storms
July: 0-1 Tropical Depressions
August: 12 to 13 Tropical Depressions 5 to 7 Named Storms 3 to 4 Hurricanes
September: No activity
November: " "
December: 2 Named Storms, 1 Hurricane
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Post 403:I understand your point, but a scientist is a different creature then a politician and thus the Honey Tongue skills are not often in their gene pool --otherwise they would be politicians and not scientists. In history, how many men of science were persecuted when they spoke the truth?????

as always -- Mother Nature will sort this out-- scientifically not politically (cause politicians rarely receive consequences for their actions)

simply:

LESSONS ARE REPEATED UNTIL LEARNED, DO WE NEED ANOTHER KATRINA TO GET IT????????????????
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Good morning, all

charlottefl - Looking forward to it.

surfmom - Yep. All that 'heads up' info and still those in charge did nothing.
We will see if any of information makes it's way into the planning this year.
From the little I have read, I am not sure that van Heerden handled things well when politics became involved. A diplomat he isn't. Certainly LSU did not handle things as they should have. When egos get involved the message gets lost sometimes. Around here on the Sea Islands, they have a saying "Keep your Eyes on the Prize". Basically it means to stay on topic, not to get side tracked with he-said she-said etc.

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BahaHurricanePost 396 -- I'm with you on this,I think your post was well-written... I don't think Heerden gives a hoot about the "politics" he cares to get the job done correctly. He seems to care more about humanity -- then politics.

Stupid is a Real thing..... Lots of Stupid around these days.

Just seems to me THEY want to completely empty out N.O. -- so the Big $ can come in and redevelop it like DisneyLand

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Everytime I read Dr. Masters post regarding Dr. Heerden I get upset...... classic "Shoot the Messenger" routine.
Patrap - thanks for your posts regarding this, .... busy sending them about
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Morning! JFV is back? ugh...

Bet Drak is really happy
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Morning everyone. Weather Station #2 arrived last night. Everything is assembled just thinkin about where I want to put it. Should be up in 48 hours or so.
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I feel so REFRESHED - yesterday's rain was a blessing!!!
Morning all Early birds!!
SWFL/SRQ
One Rain barrel full to the brim -- second one needs a better spot...... yard got trashed from all the wind....... but the trees are just thriving.....everything looks GREEN. My Ginger is even blooming...
SWFL Surf Report - winds turned it to a washing machine.
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Dismal leftover W windswell/chop; dropping to flatness with lighter NW-North wind
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Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
Baha yup Deep Depression is estimate to a tropical storm.

also I am cleaning up the bulletin from the IMD to make it a little more readible. =P

They still need to release the bulletin and the tropical cyclone warning/advisory at the same time, but they're getting better.
Ah, that explains the more legible English, anyway lol. I think Indian English is well on its way to being an alternative form of the language. . . ;o)

Do u think this Dep.1 has a chance of making it to TS status before landfall?
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Why is George W Bush at fault for the Levee failures. Did Clinton not have the same opportunity to fix better levee's or was he to busy attending to other things. Oh i forgot he was already in deep. Why isn't he Mayor of New Orleans and the Gov. of Louisiana getting hammered. This was their city and State that was not prepared and did not act as leaders to protect their people that they Govern. Its very easy to point fingers. Was mistakes made of course. But, it wasn't just President Bush that made mistakes. These Levees was built in the 1960's. How many Presidents, Senators, and House of Representives sit in office after the 1960's and did nothing. So who's fault was it. I would guess to say what political party Dr van Heerden supports.
Not sure where u got the "anti-Bush" sentiment from, at least not in what he says in the video. He seems pretty clear about the "chain of blame", so to speak, and he clearly points to the federal government, without naming any names. What he says seems to point to a longer term situation with the federal government, regardless of the party in power, supporting the Corps of Engineers in the kinds of activities that later turned out to have destroyed the wetlands.

Nevertheless he does have a very good case [if he wants to make one] against the former Bush government in particular, because at least some of the science van Heerdon was referring to wasn't as fully understood 15 or 20 years ago as it was when Bush came to power. The Bush administration was in a position to do a lot to solve LA's problems; instead it did almost nothing. I've read several reports, some from as early as 2004, criticizing the federal government for CUTTING support for COE projects. Even projects that would have improved the performance of critical NOLA levees were underfunded, and the kinds of pumps that were needed were never acquired.

Additionally, some have felt that underfunded levee projects led to the building / refurbishment of levees that were insufficient to handle the storm surge of even cat 2 hurricanes. At least some Bush administration members seemed to expect that the levees, once built,would never need replacement and upgrading. There was an attitude that the old levees should have been just as useful 40 years after they were built as they were in the 1960s, and this attitude persisted even after the research of van Heerden and others suggested otherwise.

While this is a long-term problem, van Heerden's criticism of the Bush government's response was that it did little to alleviate previous bad decisions and even less to implement the changes that would have saved at least some areas of NOLA from the worst of Katrina's floods. van Heerden wasn't the only person from LA who felt that Bush fiddled away money on the war effort that should have been allocated to (that, in their view, had already been promised for) COE projects and wetlands reclamation.

Finally, I'm not convinced I know van Heerden's party. One of the LA dwellers would have to verify my impression that he is an equal opportunity criticizer; i.e., he quite happily castigated the former governor and the Democratic mayor for the same reasons he picked on Bush. I have a feeling he'll be quite willing to criticize the Obama administration as well, if they don't move expeditiously to implement some of the changes van Heerden is advocating.

I don't think he cares which party is behind the effort, so long as the work gets done.
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395. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Baha yup Deep Depression is estimate to a tropical storm.

also I am cleaning up the bulletin from the IMD to make it a little more readible. =P

They still need to release the bulletin and the tropical cyclone warning/advisory at the same time, but they're getting better.
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394. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin Number SIX
DEEP DEPRESSION BOB01-2009
11:30 AM IST April 15 2009
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Subject: Deep depression over central & adjoining southeast Bay of Bengal: - Pre cyclone watch

At 06:00 AM UTC, The depression over central & adjoining southeast Bay of Bengal moved northwards, intensified into a deep depression. Deep Depression BOB01-2009 lay centred near 14.0N and 87.5E, or about 600 kms west-northwest of Port Blair, 600 kms southeast of Visakhapatnam and 850 kms southwest of Pathein, Myanmar. The system is likely to intensify into a cyclonic storm and move in a north-northwesterly direction for some more time.

Under its influence, rainfall at many places with isolated heavy falls is likely over Andaman Islands during next 24 hours. Squally winds speed reaching 45-55 km/h gusting to 65 kmph are likely over Andaman Islands and adjoining Sea areas during next 24hours. Sea condition is rough to very rough around Andaman Islands. Fishermen are advised not to venture into the sea.

Numerical weather prediction models suggest that the system may not cross eastern coast. However, squally winds speed reaching 45-55 km/h gusting to 65 km/h are likely along and off north Andhra Pradesh and Orissa coasts during next 48 hours commencing from tomorrow morning. Sea condition will be rough to very rough.

Fishermen are advised not to venture into the sea along and off these coasts.

Satellite imagery shows broken intense to very intense convection over area between 13.0N to 18.0N and 82.5E to 89.5E. The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is around -60C. The Dvorak intensity of the system is T2.0

Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 30 knots with a minimum central pressure of 1000 hPa. The state of the sea is rough to very rough around the system's center.

Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is between 5 to 10 knots. 24 hours shear tendency is negative to the northwest of the system. The deep depression lies close to south of the upper tropospheric ridge, which roughly runs along 16.0N

Forecast and Intensity
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Current: 14.0N 87.5E - 30 knots (DEEP DEPRESSION)
24 HRS: 16.0N 86.5E - 40-45 knots (Cyclonic Storm)
48 HRS: 18.0N 86.0E - 50-55 knots (Severe Cyclonic Storm)
72 HRS: 20.0N 88.5E - 50-55 knots (Severe Cyclonic Storm)

  • Estimates on the intensity of the system
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    Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
    India Meteorological Department
    Tropical Cyclone Bulletin Number FIVE
    DEPRESSION BOB01-2009
    8:30 AM IST April 15 2009
    ===========================================

    Hey, HGW. Looks like India has somebody new writing for them; the info alerts are a lot more linguistically and scientifically legible this season.

    Also, isn't "deep depression" India-speak for TS?
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    Good news for those who are upset with your previous airline flight. REVENGE, what a weird add.
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    391. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
    India Meteorological Department
    Tropical Cyclone Bulletin Number FIVE
    DEPRESSION BOB01-2009
    8:30 AM IST April 15 2009
    ===========================================

    At 3:00 AM UTC, Depression BOB01-2009 over southeast & adjoining central Bay of Bengal moved north-northwestwards and lays centered over central & adjoining southeast Bay of Bengal near 13.5N 87.5E, or about 600 kms west-northwest of Port Blair, 650 kms southeast of Visakhapatnam, and 850 kms southwest of Pathein, Myanmar. The system is likely to intensify into a deep depression and move in a north-northwesterly direction for some more time.

    Under its influence, rainfall at many places with isolated heavy falls is likely over Andaman & Nicober Islands during next 48 hours. Squally winds speed reaching 45-55 km/h gusting to 65 km/h are likely over Andaman Islands and adjoining Sea areas during next 48 hours. Sea condition is rough to very rough around Andaman Islands. Fishermen are advised not to venture into the sea.

    Numerical weather prediction models suggest that the system may not cross eastern coast. However, it may affect coastal areas of north Andhra Pradesh and Orissa commencing from tomorrow morning. Squally winds speed reaching 45-55 km/h gusting to 65 km/h are likely along and off these coasts commencing from tomorrow morning. Sea condition will be rough to very rough.

    Fishermen are advised not to venture into the sea along and off these coasts.
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    Why is George W Bush at fault for the Levee failures. Did Clinton not have the same opportunity to fix better levee's or was he to busy attending to other things. Oh i forgot he was already in deep. Why isn't he Mayor of New Orleans and the Gov. of Louisiana getting hammered. This was their city and State that was not prepared and did not act as leaders to protect their people that they Govern. Its very easy to point fingers. Was mistakes made of course. But, it wasn't just President Bush that made mistakes. These Levees was built in the 1960's. How many Presidents, Senators, and House of Representives sit in office after the 1960's and did nothing. So who's fault was it. I would guess to say what political party Dr van Heerden supports.
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    389. Skyepony (Mod)
    The MJO is on Bob01's side too.
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    388. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
    India Meteorological Department
    Tropical Cyclone Bulletin Number FOUR
    DEPRESSION BOB01-2009
    5:30 AM IST April 15 2009
    ===========================================

    At 0:00 AM UTC, Depresssion BOB01-2009 over southeast and adjoining central Bay of Bengal remains practically stationary and lays near 12.5N 88.0E, or about 550 kms west northwest of Port Blair, 700 kms southeast of Visakhapatnam, and 800 kms southwest of Pathein, Myanmar.

    Under its influence, rainfall at many places with isolated heavy falls is likely over Andaman & Nicober Islands during next 48 hours.

    Squally winds speed reaching 45-55 km/h gusting to 65 kmph are likely over Andaman Islands and adjoining Sea areas during next 48 hours.

    Sea condition is rough to very rough around Andaman Islands. Fishermen are advised not to venture into the sea.

    Satellite imagery shows broken intense to very intense convection observed over area between 10.0N and 15.0N and 83.0E and 92.5E. The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is around -60C. The Dvorak Intensity of the system is T1.5.

    Maximum sustianed winds near the center is 25 knots with a minimum sea level pressure of 1000 hPa. The state of the sea is rough to very rough around the system's center.

    Vertical wind shear of horizontal winds over the region is around 10 knots. 24 hours shear tendency is negative to the northwest of the system. The depression lies to the south of the upper tropospheric ridge which roughly runs along 15.0N. Sea surface temperature is favorable for intensification as it is 0.50 to 1.00 degrees celsius above normal.

    Considering all the above, the system is likely to intensify further and move in a northwesterly direction.
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    Here Come the Floods
    As Water Levels Rise, Designers Find Sometimes Counter intuitive Solutions


    And there are more ambitious design ideas, too. Ivor Van Heerden of Louisiana State University has urged massive restoration of the barrier islands in the Gulf Coast; along with the coastal wetlands (sometimes called natures levees, he considers these the first, best defense against floods. Sufficient funds have been hard to come by, but Van Heerden is optimistic: We firmly believe [that with] Obama in office, we'll start to see the federal government putting a lot more attention on this area. Conceivably, within two years, we could be rebuilding the barrier islands, he says.




    This is from 2 years ago,..Harry Shearer,a New Orleans advocate interviewed Dr. Ivor Van Heerden ,and he speaks then of LSU making his Life miserable.

    This story is Known by many locally here and along the Miss Gulf Coast, and the LSU decision wasnt much of a surprise.

    Disappointing,but not a surprise.
    Is a better phrase maybe



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    385. Skyepony (Mod)
    Orca~ West end of Eau Gallie, FL
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    Hurricane Expert Fired by Bush Allies at LSU

    The Nation. - Apr 13, 2009

    Louisiana State University is firing a leading hurricane scientist who was scheduled to testify as an expert witness in a case against the Army Corps of Engineers for their pre-Katrina work in New Orleans. Ivor van Heerden, who had been deputy director of LSU's Hurricane Center, says the school's former president, previously a Bush appointee, had earlier threatened to fire him if he testified.

    Tenure exists, we are told, to protect the expression of views that are unpopular with the powerful. This is another case where the person who needed the protection of tenure didn't have it. LSU was able to fire van Heerden because he is an untenured Associate Research Professor.

    Van Heerden was the leader of "Team Louisiana," the official independent state-funded investigation of the Katrina flooding. That panel found that the levee failures reflected poor design, bad science and shoddy engineering on the part of the Corps. The Bush Administration had held the levee failures were an "act of God."

    When van Heerden was first asked to testify in spring 2007, he said in an interview Sunday with Harry Shearer on KCRW's "Le Show," LSU's then-president, Sean O'Keefe, told plaintiffs' attorneys that if van Heerden testified against the Corps he would be fired. O'Keefe had been appointed to high offices by both Presidents Bush George W. Bush named him head of NASA in 2001, and George H. W. Bush had named him acting Secretary of the Air Force in 1992.

    According to van Heerden, the LSU president said that "nobody from LSU was going to embarrass the Bush administration or upset the major Republican companies that benefit from Corps of Engineers contracts."




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    herm, need to keep an eye on TC One, looks like it might be heading up toward some very flood prone areas
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    LSU is in Baton Rouge
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    I read the post about Ivor van Heerden and I am stunned at the (how can I put this nicely?) boneheads in New Orleans. Dr van Heerden is correct, he knew what was going to happen all along. Unfortunately, they have boneheads that won't listen to the a voice of reason, truth, and fact. Politicians, and the good old boys at LSU, should be held accountable for their inaction. I live in Long Beach, Mississippi, my town, and region was torn up by Katrina. The devistation was unbelieveable, words or pictures just can't describe it. However, we on the Mississippi gulfcoast, knew all along that New Orleans was going to get destroyed someday. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you build a city in a hole, and put tiny levies around it, that someday you would end up with a big swimming pool. None of us have to be meterologist to know what would happen with a huge hurricane, it is just not that complex of a subject. But nothing suprises me about New Orleans. They had the time and resources to fix the problem, but they didn't. We on the gulfcoast are sick and tired of hearing about poor old New Orleans. We are sick of their whining also, they need to get off of their hind ends and fix the place, don't wait for volunteers or the government to do anything. Where I live, we got together, had great leadership, pulled ourselves up by the boot straps, and fixed our community. Maybe New Orleans should learn some lessons from us. Dr van Heerden come to Mississippi, we would greatly value you, and listen. Your an assest that any community should be proud to have! What right does LSU have to Dr. van Heerden from testifying as an "expert witness", how is this possible? Are they the law now? What a stupid thing to do!
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    Quoting Skyepony:
    Major models hadn't been really developing that in the Indian ocean.. Looks pretty gamely.

    are you in Melbourne FL?
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    378. Skyepony (Mod)
    Major models hadn't been really developing that in the Indian ocean.. Looks pretty gamely.
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    hmm thats hahaguy
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    whats that mean orca???
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    14-APR-2009 22:44:45 19.33 -155.21 5.1 10.1 HAWAII
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    AHHH, one must look to the west coast to find the block. LP is locked in over the great lakes, HP in the plains, LP locked in on the west coast.\\ Got It.

    Glad it's April, Locked LP in the great lakes spawned the 04 madness in FL.
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    365. Ossqss 8:31 PM PDT on April 14, 2009
    Yosemite in the headlines soon .Wow Nightall.



    huh???
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    Quoting Vortex95:
    any1 remember Kendall Hurricane?


    I think I remember him
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    Yosemite in the headlines soon .Wow Nightall.
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    thanks pat


    . firegirl 8:14 PM PDT on April 14, 2009
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    hey oh has the loop eddy for the gulf link??


    taz, you can find the loop eddy for the GOM at www.esl.lsu.edu



    thanks firegirl
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    201. atmoaggie 5:17 PM EDT on April 14, 2009

    Thanks for that graphic, which illustrated a lot of stuff I have been reading really well. My question about the affluent people also living near or below sea level is this: how many of them are living on land / in a location that has historically been in the possession of their family? i.e. the family homestead? If true, that would in a way make my case even better than my own example. These are people who potentially COULD move to other, safer ground, but choose to remain because the land symbolizes their heritage. THAT's what I'm trying to get at - that sense of pride,ownership and history that makes people go back despite the difficulties experienced. New Orleans needs options that take this into account, not ones that try to ignore it.

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    off topic. but guess that's ok since it is April. But I wish I had gone to bed after the regular 10 pm fox new. But no I have fox new edge on.. I was still watching hoping to hear more about this omega block and how it might effect our weather here in FL. yuck..Link
    hope I can lose this image as I sleep.
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    UNYSIS 10 -Day GFSx
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    any way iam gone work in the morning
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    maybe not i dont know any more as the season approaches so do the fun and games
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    Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
    P E I F U R J F V S A Y H I T O H A H A
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    No that's ok i was just seeing if it was him.
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    I am not understanding the talks about an omega or rex block for that matter. The front is progressing out of the plains as forecast and moving things along. I don't see any block happening. Maybe a little lag on the sheared TD running the SE GOM but that is all.

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    Well.. I read it here, then heard tampa's fox 13 talk about it. Googled and read what it said. But I still don't understand what it means for us. Which is why I asked.. Does that mean more rain for FL? Early start to rainy season. But with the exception of this blog in the last three years, my meterological studies stopped in 1981 when my first child was born.
    Which is why I LOVE this blog. I can learn something everyday without it feeling like school!!
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