Groundhog: Six more weeks of winter!

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:55 PM GMT on February 02, 2009

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Punxsutawney Pennsylvania's famous prognosticating rodent, Punxsutawney Phil, saw his shadow this morning. According to tradition, this means that a solid six more weeks of winter can be expected across the U.S. From the official web site of the Punxsutawney Groundhog Club, groundhog.org:

Here Ye! Here Ye! Here Ye!

On Gobbler's Knob on this fabulous Groundhog Day, February 2nd, 2009
Punxsutawney Phil, the Seer of Seers, Prognosticator of all Prognosticators,
Awoke to the call of President Bill Cooper
And greeted his handlers, Ben Hughes and John Griffiths

After casting a joyful eye toward thousands of his faithful followers,
Phil proclaimed that his beloved Pittsburgh Steelers were World Champions one more time

And a bright sky above me
Showed my shadow beside me.

Six more weeks of winter it will be.


How did this this crazy tradition start?
It all started in Europe, centuries ago, when February 2 was a holiday called Candlemas. On Candlemas, people prayed for mild weather for the remainder of winter. The superstition arose that if a hibernating badger woke up and saw its shadow on Candlemas, there would be six more weeks of severe winter weather. When Europeans settled the New World, they didn't find any badgers. So, instead of building wooden badgers, they decided to use native groundhogs (aka the woodchuck, land beaver, or whistlepig) as their prognosticating rodent.

What the models say
The latest 16-day run of the GFS model shows the jet stream retreating to a position in southern Canada in about a week, which will usher in milder temperatures over the eastern half of the U.S. compared to average. However, the model predicts that a series of cold air outbreaks typical for February will occasionally dip down over northern regions of the U.S. over the coming two weeks, bringing colder than average temperatures to the Pacific Northwest, and near average temperatures to the Midwest and Northeast. The latest 1-month and 3-month outlooks from NOAA's Climate Prediction Center show a continuation of this pattern for the remainder of winter and into Spring, with a heightened chance of above-average temperatures in the Southern U.S. Cooler than average temperatures in the Northern Plains are typical when weak La Niña conditions are present in the Eastern Pacific (Figure 1), as is currently the case.


Figure 1. Departure of winter temperature from average for winters when a weak La Niña event was present. Temperatures in the Northern Plains have typically been 1-2°F below average for the eight winters in the past 50 years that have had weak La Niña events. Image credit: Jan Null, Golden Gate Weather, and NOAA/ESRL.

Kentucky's ice storm
Six more weeks of winter is not what ice storm-battered Kentucky needs, as the state continues to recover from its most widespread power outage in history. High temperatures Tuesday and Wednesday will be below freezing over the most of the state, but should warm into the 50s by the end of the week. More than half of the 600,000 customers affected by the outage have now had their power restored. The previous largest power outage in state history occurred just five months ago, when the remnants of Hurricane Ike brought wind gusts near hurricane force to Kentucky.

The Groundhog Oscillation: convincing evidence of climate change
According to a 2001 article published in the prestigious Annals of Improbable Research titled, "The Groundhog Oscillation: Evidence of Global Change", Punxsutawney Phil's forecasts have shown a high variability since 1980. This pattern, part of the larger "Groundhog Oscillation" or GO cycle, is convincing evidence of human-caused climate change.

More on climate change in my next post on Tuesday or Wednesday, when I'll look at claims that the Earth has been cooling since 1998.

Jeff Masters

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This short Ozarks up hill road was covered with downed trees yesterday before neighbors worked all day to clear it. Needless to say, we've got great neighbors.
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Winter of 2009 ice storm in Ky.
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Tornado vortex just NW of key west moving towards miami.

It could get nasty in SE FL.
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Anytime..

Looks squally down there
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Figured it out, but thanks anyway, patrap. Appreciated.
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Quoting Seastep:
Watching the storm line w/ key west radar.

Does anyone know what a storm that has a big yellow square iso the standard black square mean? TIA




NEXRAD Radar
Key West, Base Reflectivity 0.50 Degree Elevation Range 124 NMI Link


5 Doppler Radar Detected Storms


ID Max Top VIL Severe Hail Hail Max Hail Size Speed Direction (from)
2 Q0 70 dBZ 20,000 ft. 41 kg/m 50% chance 60% chance 1.00 in. 21 knots WSW
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Never mind. There were no storms listed at the bottom, so didn't have the legend. It's hail.
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Watching the storm line w/ key west radar.

Does anyone know what a storm that has a big yellow square iso the standard black square mean? TIA
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Thanks Skyepony
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106. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
hmm you don't like Fred.. how about Freddy, the next name you'll see on this board when Australia has another cyclone. (possibly in the next few days).

1..2 Freddy's coming for you.. =P

oh sorry I'm being random now.
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105. Skyepony (Mod)
STLouiskid~ Been a few years since I saw it. Think it would have been better had Gore not been in the film. Part of it seemed devoted to his future political adjenda. Parts were pretty boring. Kinda put a very democratic spin in the issue worse than before.. seemed to make some "older" republicans very sceptical of the new light bulbs, know some to this day that won't use them & will go on about Gore if they are mentioned. It was a poor way to approach a demagraphic that needed reached the most. And it's getting out of date. NW passage opened way sooner than proclamed along with some other projections. Dr Master's & I think his daughter did a blog review on it when it 1st came out. If I remember right~ she was pretty bored by it.
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well, my class justed finished watching, " An Inconvenient Truth", and i was wondering what your guys' take on it was...thanks
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You Northerns can go by the forecast of Phil, but for us southerns, we'll stick with Gen Beauregard Lees' prediction for an early spring.After the winter everyone has had it sounds so much better.
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ONLY six more weeks of winter? That would be pretty soon, for us here in Maine.
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101. tornadofan
9:00 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting captainhunter:
91. Patrap

I don't like the sound of Fred. Something about four-letter male names.


He might try to top what his wife Wilma did...
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100. scCane
8:48 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
at this point i'm less worried about the systems track but more worried about the temperatures its about 57 where im at dont see much chance for it to cool down enough to get some decent snow out of this storm.
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99. HIEXPRESS
8:36 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
97. Wheee!
KBDI will look different tomorrow.
WhooHoo
With the falling Baro & Broken clouds = rapidly changing light conditions, Bert the Bass, & 4 of his buddies said yesterday winter is over - they couldn't wait to get in the boat.
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98. captainhunter
8:25 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
91. Patrap

I don't like the sound of Fred. Something about four-letter male names.
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97. hurricane23
8:20 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
As always if things hold together we should be in for an interesting night here across southeast florida.

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96. eddye
8:14 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
wow i cant belive it there could be freeze watch because they expect 32 for south fla
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95. Skyepony (Mod)
8:10 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Dang the atlantic flights are cancelled Pacific is on tonight..

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0100 PM EST MON 02 FEB 2009
SUBJECT: WINTER STORM PLAN OF THE DAY (WSPOD)
VALID 03/1100Z TO 04/1100Z FEB 2009
WSPOD NUMBER.....08-064

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARKS: THE 3 MISSIONS ON A DEVELOPING ATLANTIC
SYSTEM ALL CANCELED BY NCEP BY O2/1325Z.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 75
A. P1/ 39.5N 144.7W/ 03/1200Z
B. AF301 09WSC TRACK1
C. 03/0700Z
D. DROPS EVERY 20 MINTUES ON TRACK WEST OF 135W
E. AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE/ 03/1800Z

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: PROBABLE TRACK
WITH A 04/0500Z TAKEOFF.
JWP


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94. Skyepony (Mod)
8:07 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
That should help out the models a bit..
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93. Skyepony (Mod)
8:06 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1245 PM EST SUN 01 FEB 2009
SUBJECT: WINTER STORM PLAN OF THE DAY (WSPOD)
VALID 02/1100Z TO 03/1100Z FEB 2009
WSPOD NUMBER.....08-063

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 71
A. A63/ CARPS (30.4N 77.8W)/ 03/0000Z
B. AFXXX 03WSA TRACK63
C. 02/1715Z
D. 4 DROPS AS PUBLISHED ON TRACK PLUS
CARPS FOR A TOTAL OF 5
E. 30,000 FT/ 03/0200Z

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 72
A. A61/ CROAK (37.0N 73.0W)/ 03/1200Z
B. AFXXXX 04WSA TRACK61
C. 03/0630Z
D. 4 DROPS AS PUBLISHED ON TRACK PLUS
CHAMP FOR A TOTAL OF 5
E. 30,000 FT/ 03/1400Z

NOTE: THE TASKING FOR TRACK A63, CONTROL TIME
02/1200Z FROM YESTERDAY'S WSPOD WILL DEPART TONIGHT.

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: PSBL FLIGHT FROM
KTCM/ 03/1200Z / TRACK NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME
WVW
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91. Patrap
7:52 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
2009 Atlantic Hurricane Names

Ana
Bill
Claudette
Danny
Erika
Fred
Grace
Henri
Ida
Joaquin
Kate
Larry
Mindy
Nicholas
Odette
Peter
Rose
Sam
Teresa
Victor
Wanda

Experience shows that the use of short, distinctive given names in written as well as spoken communications is quicker and less subject to error than the older more cumbersome latitude-longitude identification methods. These advantages are especially important in exchanging detailed storm information between hundreds of widely scattered stations, coastal bases, and ships at sea.

Since 1953, Atlantic tropical storms have been named from lists originated by the National Hurricane Center. They are now maintained and updated by an international committee of the World Meteorological Organization. The original name lists featured only women's names. In 1979, men's names were introduced and they alternate with the women's names. Six lists are used in rotation. Thus, the 2008 list will be used again in 2014. Here is more information about the history of naming hurricanes. Link
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90. Fshhead
7:50 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Like we really needed the groundhog to tell us that we are in for more winter conditions????
LOL
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89. Patrap
7:39 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Ocean Surface Winds Derived from the SeaWinds Scatterometer Link


Marine Observing Systems Team Link

The MOST applies remotely-sensed data received from operational and research satellites and other platforms ranging from microwave to ultra-violet frequencies to infer thermal distributions; bio-optical properties; surface winds and associated wave structure; ice sheet topography; ocean currents, fronts and eddies. This branch also conducts field experiments to assemble comparative data to validate the satellite measurements. It cooperates with other parts of NOAA to develop applications of satellite-derived ocean properties to physical and biological models, models of ocean circulation, and fisheries resources.
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88. PanhandleChuck
7:38 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Good afternoon all! Just thought I'd drop by and see if anyone was in here. With as cold as it has gotten here in NW Fl. this, I have to say that I do not see any signs of global warming. LOL
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87. stillwaiting
7:28 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
good to hear from you surfmom,I saw you running on the key yesterday....can't miss the always present "yellow hat"..lol.....its darn windy today to go along w/the rain,its like a "south-wester",lol...
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86. Patrap
7:18 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
ESL by LSU Link

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85. bwi
7:16 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Pressure down 4mb over two-ish hours in NE gulf...
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84. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
7:09 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
ground hog sees shadow,six more weeks of sleep.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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83. Orcasystems
7:06 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Happy Birthday RTLSNK & SB :)
Husband and Wife celebrating a birthday together today :)

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82. Orcasystems
7:01 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting KEHCharleston:
RE: Post 70 Orca
Heaviest snow in 20 years brings large parts of Britain to a halt
GW, or the start of an Ice Age


One only needs to find the link between what man has done, and the weather.
I searched, and searched for human activity that was present 20 years ago -- and today.

I found this:
1989 prices for a pint
Jan 3 2009 by Val Woan, Liverpool Echo

PUB chain JD Wetherspoon is to slash prices on some drinks and food, offering a pint of beer for less than £1, down to 1989 prices.

The company, which operates 713 pubs across the UK, said the price reductions on some beer, bottled lager, wine and spirits would run “indefinitely”.

A number of meals will also be offered at £2.99, said the firm, which opened 20 new pubs in the past few months of 2008, creating hundreds of new jobs, despite the economic downturn.


Gives a new meaning to a nice cold one, I think



I knew your response would be different and may involve alcohol after this reply;

stir,stir, stir
think, think, think,
stir, stir, stir,
drink, drink, drink,

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81. KEHCharleston
6:55 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
RE: Post 70 Orca
Heaviest snow in 20 years brings large parts of Britain to a halt
GW, or the start of an Ice Age


One only needs to find the link between what man has done, and the weather.
I searched, and searched for human activity that was present 20 years ago -- and today.

I found this:
1989 prices for a pint
Jan 3 2009 by Val Woan, Liverpool Echo

PUB chain JD Wetherspoon is to slash prices on some drinks and food, offering a pint of beer for less than £1, down to 1989 prices.

The company, which operates 713 pubs across the UK, said the price reductions on some beer, bottled lager, wine and spirits would run “indefinitely”.

A number of meals will also be offered at £2.99, said the firm, which opened 20 new pubs in the past few months of 2008, creating hundreds of new jobs, despite the economic downturn.


Gives a new meaning to a nice cold one, I think

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80. Orcasystems
6:46 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Geologist: No big energy bursts at Alaska volcano
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79. theshepherd
6:44 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Wherdahecawee Indian Weather Station
Assistant Chief Fuji Whara

RE:
Groundhog Weather Model

Paleface analysis = 39% accuracy

Conclusion;
Paleface read backwards


forecaster Fuji


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78. Skyepony (Mod)
6:44 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
surfmom~someone already did the deed.. Groundhogs disagree.. Never mind the one that agrees with you is dead & stuffed, there's hope!
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77. Orcasystems
6:42 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting surfmom:


Not what I want to hear as I set out to east of I75 to the polo barns.. Gonna be a mud festival at work today....... a mother's love knows no bounds LOL... No riding today -- but we still have to tend to the lame mare, check on their raincoat blankets and other assorted get wet and muddy tasks....

Not complaining though -- SWFL was a tinderbox --least now the Polo fields and pastures are getting a soaking.... me too in a bit.


It could come down as snow :)
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76. calusakat
6:38 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting vortfix:
Look, if this NOAA study is correct it should have permanently ended all discussion about you know what!


New Study Shows Climate Change Largely Irreversible
January 26, 2009

A new scientific study led by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reaches a powerful conclusion about the climate change caused by future increases of carbon dioxide: to a large extent, there's no going back.

The pioneering study, led by NOAA senior scientist Susan Solomon, shows how changes in surface temperature, rainfall, and sea level are largely irreversible for more than 1,000 years after carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are completely stopped. The findings appear during the week of January 26 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Link


Just curious.

Isn't it impossible to completely stop CO2 emissions?

Doesn't the mere act of living cause CO2 emissions?

How large does global population have to become before the CO2 emissions from being alive and the food being cooked and the food being grown all add up to make this global warming issue moot?

How about cooking the food that we all must eat to live...or do they want us to eat it raw?

How do we farm? Do we go back to animals?

How about all the animals most of us eat..or do we all go vegetarian?

I must commend NOAA for telling it like it probably really is when it comes to AGW and CO2 emissions.

Lets stop pollution. Lets find new and better ways to conserve.

AGW is dead. May it rest in peace.

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75. surfmom
6:37 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting stillwaiting:
flood watch maybe needed in the SWFL area......


Not what I want to hear as I set out to east of I75 to the polo barns.. Gonna be a mud festival at work today....... a mother's love knows no bounds LOL... No riding today -- but we still have to tend to the lame mare, check on their raincoat blankets and other assorted get wet and muddy tasks....

Not complaining though -- SWFL was a tinderbox --least now the Polo fields and pastures are getting a soaking.... me too in a bit.
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74. surfmom
6:34 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Look, I am one of the most nurturing people around here...... but I'm gonna shake some sense into that Groundhog -- could someone please schedule a do over -- Phil, the rodent got it wrong!!!
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73. KEHCharleston
6:33 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting Orcasystems:
Heaviest snow in 20 years brings large parts of Britain to a halt

GW, or the start of an Ice Age

OK, KEH, you can have your stir stick back now.

stir,stir, stir
think, think, think,
stir, stir, stir,
drink, drink, drink,

Ok..the question is (Cotillion, maybe you can fend this one). What were all those Brits been doing 20 years ago, that they are doing today!
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72. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
6:26 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory Number FOUR
PERTURBATION TROPICALE 08-20082009
22:00 PM Réunion February 2 2009
==================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Disturbance 08R (1000 hPa) located at 16.3S 66.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots with gusts of 35 knots. The disturbance is reported as moving west-southwest at 8 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
12 HRS: 17.1S 64.5E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
24 HRS: 17.6S 62.5E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Moderée)
48 HRS: 18.1S 58.7E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 18.4S 54.7E - 70 knots (Cyclone Tropical)

Additional Information
========================
System is sheared with an ill-defined low level circulation center east of the main convection (CF TRMM at 9:53z). Environmental condition were stationary during the last hours with a weak to moderate vertical wind shear and the low level only fed by the monsoon flow.

During the next 24-36 hours, the system will move towards west-southwest in relation with a weakness of the upper level ridge. It should move west beyond with the increasing of high pressure in the south. The low level inflow is better poleward after tomorrow evening thanks to the increasing gradient with the subtroical high pressure. In the upper levels, wind shear will decrease but only one outflow will settle in the next 36 to 48 hours.

Intensification rate is slow for the next 48 hours and then a climatological rate.

INTEREST IN THE MASCAREGNAS ISLANDS SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.
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71. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
6:10 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
AXIO20 FIMP 021200
MAURITIUS METEOROLOGICAL SERVICES
SATELLITE TROPICAL CYLONE ANALYSIS .
1 . A SATELLITE : METEOSAT 07
2. A ORBIT NUMBER : GEOSTATIONARY
3. A ORBIT DATE/TIME : 02/02/09 @ 1200 UTC
0. B CYCLONE SERIAL NUMBER : 08
1. B CYCLONE NAME : TROPICAL DEPRESSION
2. B LATITUDE : 16.0 SOUTH
3. B LONGITUDE : 67.4 EAST
4. B DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE : GOOD
5. B T. NUMBER / C.I NUMBER : 2.5 / 2.5 / D0.5/24HRS
6. B MOVEMENT : WEST-SOUTH-WESTERLY 07KT
7. B OTHER INFORMATION : NIL
T.O.O : 02/1200 UTC=
END=

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Skye no floater..? it should have one by now if the T number is 2.5.
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70. Orcasystems
6:07 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Heaviest snow in 20 years brings large parts of Britain to a halt

GW, or the start of an Ice Age

OK, KEH, you can have your stir stick back now.
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69. KEHCharleston
5:58 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
CMC has "Gael", to be, a strong system.

LOL
We should come up with a new naming system
'Gael Storm'...works... sort of has a ring about it.
Always thought that Fay should have been 'Fey'
Maybe these storms should have to earn their names... yea...
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68. Skyepony (Mod)
5:56 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Here's a non self updating shot. Really coming together since yesterday.~ We could use a floater here..

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67. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
5:53 PM GMT on February 02, 2009


CMC has "Gael", to be, a strong system.
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66. KEHCharleston
5:49 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
Thanks Skyepony - any form of chocolate will do - ahhh.. endorphins

Thanks HadesGodWyvern - Your posts do keep me on my toes - geographically challenged, ya know.
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65. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
5:49 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
island east of Madagascar..

Rodriques
St Brandon
Mauritius
Réunion

---
might not track all the way to Madagascar if the system becomes a "hurricane"
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64. Skyepony (Mod)
5:46 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
I'm getting rain today:) Slight risk of severe weather..

KEH should win a brownie:).. Ya'll freaked by the Groundhog Oscillation..lol the joke couldn't have been more clearly marked..I see how ya'll check sources now:P

We heard about this from the American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting last month~ The NOAA study about air pollution raising the Artic temp by ~3ºC. One quick way to slow this melting down a little is end the black soot & some other key pollutents sent up to gather in the dark til winter & ends & the sun comes up, triggering all sorts of reactions, since these are short lived in sunshine (unlike CO2 & greenhouse gases). This went into way better detail then what we saw before about the when & whys of the reactions & feedbacks.
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63. KEHCharleston
5:45 PM GMT on February 02, 2009
61. HadesGodWyvern
Having to stretch my geographical knowledge (sad to say, but I admit it) - These are the islands east of Madagascar? Wondering if this will put Madagascar in hazards way.
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