Rare snowstorm hits Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:02 PM GMT on December 12, 2008

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A rare early December heavy snowstorm hit Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi yesterday, setting several records. It was the earliest measurable snowfall in recorded history at Beaumont, Port Arthur, and Lake Charles. Also, this snow event set the all time record snowfall amounts for the month of December at Beaumont, Port Arthur, Lake Charles, Lafayette, and New Iberia, and was the first measurable snowfall in recorded history for the month of December at Lafayette. In Mississippi, up to 5 inches of snow fell on areas south of Jackson. The snow knocked out power to 83,000 and caused numerous traffic accidents and road closures across Southeast Louisiana. The snow was caused by an upper-level low pressure system that deepened over the Gulf of Mexico. The snow was unusual because it occurred when the surface temperatures were 32 to 35 degrees.

The one inch of snow reported in New Orleans was that city's earliest snow on record. The previous earliest date for measurable snowfall in New Orleans was Dec. 22, 1989. New Orleans' last snowfall, in 2004, was a dusting. The record snowfall for the city is about 5 inches, recorded Dec. 30, 1963.


Figure 1. Yesterday's snowstorm brought a festive blanket of white to Magee, Mississippi. Image credit: SouthernLady.

A few selected snow amounts from yesterday's storm:

Louisiana
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Amite 8.0 inches
rossroads 6.0 inches
Hammond 6.0 inches
Mount Herman 6.0 inches
Opelousas 6.0 inches
Washington 6.0 inches
Covington 6.0 inches
Baton Rouge 3.0 inches
Plaquemine 2.5 inches
New Orleans 1.0 inches
Lafayette 1.0 inches
New Iberia 0.8 inches
NWS Lake Charles 0.4 inches

Mississippi
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Columbia 5.0 inches
Jayess 5.0 inches
Brookhaven 5.0 inches
Prentiss 4.0 inches

Texas
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Lumberton 4.0 inches
West Beaumont 4.0 inches
Woodville 3.0 inches
Beaumont City 2.5 inches
SE TX regional Arpt 1.8 inches
Orange 1.0 inches
Port Neches 1.0 inches
Jasper 0.5 inches

So what happened to global warming?
Record snow events inevitably bring comments like, "so what happened to global warming?" First of all, no single weather event can prove or disprove the existence of climate change or global warming. One needs to look at the entire globe over a period of decades to evaluate whether or not climate change is occurring. It might be instructive to look at what global snow cover is doing this season (it's about 10% below average, Figure 2), but this doesn't mean global warming is occurring. This year's reduced snow cover could be due to natural seasonal variations. Only global average temperatures, when viewed over a time scale of decades, can prove or disprove the existence of global warming. Global average temperatures, when averaged over a decades-long period that removes the "bumps" associated with natural seasonal weather fluctuations, show that global warming is occurring.

Secondly, as both myself and wunderground climate change expert Dr. Ricky Rood have pointed out, global warming won't necessarily lead to a decrease in snowfall in all regions. If it is cold enough to snow, we may actually see increased snow in many locations. Global warming puts more moisture in the atmosphere, due to fact that higher global temperatures evaporate more moisture off of the oceans. I expect that coming decades will bring many record snowfalls, due to the increased moisture available in the atmosphere.


Figure 2. Northern Hemisphere snow cover on December 9, 2008 (blue areas) compared to average (green line). Northern Hemisphere snow cover was about 10% below average the first week of December. Since October, Northern Hemisphere snow cover has been about 5% below average. Bob Hart at Florida State has put together a nice set of regularly updating images showing the current state of global snow cover.

Subtropical Storm Rene possible in the Atlantic next week
The trough of low pressure that brought snow to the deep south will track eastward over the Atlantic over the next few days, reaching the central Atlantic north of the Lesser Antilles Islands by Monday. On Monday or Tuesday, the computer models unanimously agree that the southern portion of the trough will pinch off and form a "cut-off low"--an extratropical storm that is cut off from the jet stream. This low is expected to track slowly westward to a point midway between Bermuda and Puerto Rico by late next week. The low will be over waters marginally warm enough--25°C--to support formation of a subtropical storm, and phase space diagrams from Florida State indicate that this storm will be warm-cored. Wind shear is forecast to be low enough to allow a subtropical or tropical storm to form, and I give a medium (20-50% chance) that we will see Subropical Storm Rene in the Atlantic next week.

Jeff Masters

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Have fun Orca - see you when you get back
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Have fun Orca! See ya soon.
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Quoting zoomiami:


ah - so that's what happened. That makes Orca responsible for my kid with no electric - think you should go home Orca, and make sure you close the doors on your way back.


I am innocent.. as per normal :)
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Quoting zoomiami:
Nothing better than a fire on the beach - we do a lot of small fires here - have one of those fire burning pits.


Well, there are some things on the beach that I like better than fire...but I'm a guy, I can't help that.
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Quoting RobDaHood:


Some folks just like to spoil all the fun...I remember beach fires...Long ago

As for the cold...rumour has it that some Canadian guy went on vacation and left the backdoor open...so all the cold is getting out and moving south.


Apparently they did it to Victoria also.. snow fall warning... now I am happy.. they are getting snow.. and I am not there :)

I have 4 minutes left...so this will be my last remark..I hope eveyone is having fun and staying safe :)

Chat to you all later.


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Quoting RobDaHood:


Some folks just like to spoil all the fun...I remember beach fires...Long ago

As for the cold...rumour has it that some Canadian guy went on vacation and left the backdoor open...so all the cold is getting out and moving south.


ah - so that's what happened. That makes Orca responsible for my kid with no electric - think you should go home Orca, and make sure you close the doors on your way back.
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Nothing better than a fire on the beach - we do a lot of small fires here - have one of those fire burning pits.
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Quoting Orcasystems:


The weather here has basically been cloudy with sunny breaks since we got here tuesday, but the last two nights have been stupid cold... tempted to light beach fires, but apparently they frown on that down here :)


Some folks just like to spoil all the fun...I remember beach fires...Long ago

As for the cold...rumour has it that some Canadian guy went on vacation and left the backdoor open...so all the cold is getting out and moving south.
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Quoting MissNadia:
Hurry Home!

Forecast for GREATER VICTORIA
Updated: 5:00 am PST on December 13, 2008
Snowfall warning in effect

Today
Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind northwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph) this morning. Temperature steady near 3C(37F).

Tonight
Periods of snow. Local amount 5 to 10 cm(2.0 to 3.9 in). Wind northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph). Low -2C(28F).

Sunday
A few flurries ending late in the morning then cloudy with sunny periods. Wind northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph). High -1C(30F).

Monday
Sunny. Low -7C(19F). High -2C(28F).



I was just reading that....
GW my butt.. I am in Mexico freezing...
It snowed in LA, and Texas... and its snowing in Victoria... yup.. GW is upon us.
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Too much multi tasking - washing floors, typing, giving kid directions & phone numbers...

Sorry to hear about the chill - its chilly here, but I'm loving it - (chilly for us)
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Hurry Home!

Forecast for GREATER VICTORIA
Updated: 5:00 am PST on December 13, 2008
Snowfall warning in effect

Today
Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind northwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph) this morning. Temperature steady near 3C(37F).

Tonight
Periods of snow. Local amount 5 to 10 cm(2.0 to 3.9 in). Wind northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph). Low -2C(28F).

Sunday
A few flurries ending late in the morning then cloudy with sunny periods. Wind northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) to 60 km/h (37 mph). High -1C(30F).

Monday
Sunny. Low -7C(19F). High -2C(28F).

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124. IKE
Quoting Orcasystems:


We are actually at an all inclusive resort. Called the Viva Wyndham Maya, close to Playa del Carman.


You're safe then...lol.

Have fun...
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Quoting RobDaHood:
Hey Orca!

sun turned down to better see the moon?

Sun pretty bright here this am actually...a little cool still


The weather here has basically been cloudy with sunny breaks since we got here tuesday, but the last two nights have been stupid cold... tempted to light beach fires, but apparently they frown on that down here :)
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Quoting IKE:


Jump off of that boat and head home....NOW!

If you're on land, has anyone asked you for any money yet or to buy something from them(I remember Acapulco).


We are actually at an all inclusive resort. Called the Viva Wyndham Maya, close to Playa del Carman.
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Hey Orca!

sun turned down to better see the moon?

Sun pretty bright here this am actually...a little cool still
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120. IKE
Quoting Orcasystems:
Hmmm mexican keyboards.. strange symbols... and no sun..

I sort of miss being home.. but not that much :)


........ has anyone asked you for any money yet or to buy something from them(I remember Acapulco).
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Quoting zoomiami:
Sounds like a great plan Pottery - I even like the beach when its cool outside.

Sorry about the wedding - best laid plans of men and mice....

Hey Orca - thought you were on vacation!


I am.. I thought I would pop in for a couple minutes, and try and find out if the sun is coming back soon. last two nights have been cold enough to require jackets down here... no fun sitting on a beach... praying for a hot rum.
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Hmmm mexican keyboards.. strange symbols... and no sun..

I sort of miss being home.. but not that much :)
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Sounds like a great plan Pottery - I even like the beach when its cool outside.

Sorry about the wedding - best laid plans of men and mice....

Hey Orca - thought you were on vacation!
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116. IKE
From this mornings San Juan,PR discussion...

Could still see a significant low level system form
across the west central Atlantic on Tuesday or Wednesday...which
will eventually be steered southward and towards the local
islands...but models have been trending further westward with
their solutions over the last several runs...so some uncertainty
remains.
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Ola from Mexico...
who turned off the damn sun, and when is it coming back??
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114. IKE
This should become an invest....
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Huh !!
I have just been Reliably Informed, that I am to attend a Wedding Festival, this evening.
There goes my beach plan......
Oh well, a night of dancing and prancing, with copious amounts of food and drink, pretty women, laughter and scandal. It all sounds just fine to me.....
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Doing great here Zoo.
Thinking of heading to the beach today, to soak some sore muscles and my confused brain.
Had a couple of frantic days around here. Work stuff.
Looking forward to some downtime......
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Just looking at the long range models for Florida, and it looks like we will remain warm (Like now) until at least past Christmas. This is kind of a relief for me considering I have been freezing by butt off here for quiet awhile. But no Christmas frost :(
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Hi Pottery - how are you? Haven't been around much lately - just lurking.

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Fortunately they have two types of heat - one is oil that has an electric heat pump, but the other is a propane fire place, no electric needed. Their house is on the city water - last one of the line. Next house over is pump - so they have no water.
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Morning all-

some days are diamond,
some days are stone.

Its a diamond one here this morning.
Hope everyone is having a good one too.
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Glad to hear your daughter's all right, even if she didn't expect a winter storm to be as bad as a tropical one. .. lol
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Quoting zoomiami:
Morning Baha - the moon was so bright here it lit up the yard.

How's the temp over your way? cooler than I expected this morning - a chilly 56.

My daughter lives in Maine, York county, where the brunt of the ice storm went through. No power, blocked roads, and no generators to be found.

Asked her how a kid who who knows how to prepare for hurricanes got caught so unaware!
Morning zoo! It's around 68 out right now. Pretty darn cold, where I live! LOL
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Morning everybody, btw. It's pretty cold out so far today, so I'll prolly be staying inside. . . lol

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Cyclonic Binary fission lol
I think Dolphins twin might be a problem for him
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Morning Baha - the moon was so bright here it lit up the yard.

How's the temp over your way? cooler than I expected this morning - a chilly 56.

My daughter lives in Maine, York county, where the brunt of the ice storm went through. No power, blocked roads, and no generators to be found.

Asked her how a kid who who knows how to prepare for hurricanes got caught so unaware!
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Quoting RobDaHood:
The full moon Friday night will be the biggest one of the year as Earth's natural satellite reaches its closest point to our planet.

my blog #485 for more info
The moonrise here last night was gorgeous - and the mood did look really big. Unfortunately I didn't have my camera with me when I ran out to the store.

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Morning
Wilmington is clear
33, forecast to go to 49
Light NW wind
NO ICE
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Quoting vortfix:
"This is pathetic," said Bob Cott of Portland, Maine, who lost power. "I'm already sick of winter and we have nine days to go before it officially begins."


Ha ha ha...he's right!
What a winter already and it hasn't "officially" started yet!!
LOL



Ay, will only get worse. Wonder when our windstorms start crawling in...
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"This is pathetic," said Bob Cott of Portland, Maine, who lost power. "I'm already sick of winter and we have nine days to go before it officially begins."


Ha ha ha...he's right!
What a winter already and it hasn't "officially" started yet!!
LOL

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Northeast ice storm leaves 1.25M without power


CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — As it got down into the teens and single digits in New Hampshire, people who lost power from a massive ice storm showed up at some shelters by the dozens.

"We're just loading up more cots and more blankets; I guess we're up to 36 people already," Kevin Pratt, fire chief in the southern New Hampshire town of Raymond said Friday night.

The local middle school usually houses 25 people comfortably, but if the need's there, they'll accommodate, he said. Visitors could eat a spaghetti-and-meatball dinner and take a shower.

"People's houses are getting cold and they're getting cold," Pratt said. "They're wise."

The town has about 10,000 residents, just about all of whom were in the dark following the storm, which left 1.25 million homes and businesses in New England without electricity; some were expected to stay that way for at least several days.

In New Hampshire, emergency management officials, the Red Cross and local communities opened at least 25 shelters across the state.

Gov. John Lynch, who requested a federal emergency declaration in order to receive generators, cots and other supplies from the government, urged residents to check on their neighbors, especially those who are elderly and live alone.

"I think there's no substitute for that kind of neighbor-to-neighbor assistance that New Hampshire is traditionally famous for," Lynch said.

The ice storm compared with some of the Northeast's worst, especially in New Hampshire, where more than half the state — 400,000-plus homes and businesses — was without power. There were far fewer outages during the infamous Ice Storm of '98, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.

"All the motels have no electricity, and that's why I'm here," said Duke Straychan of Hampton, who came to stay overnight at Portsmouth High School. He can't do without power because he uses an oxygen tank at night. People at the shelter dined on American chop suey and shepherd's pie and watched "The Polar Express" in the cafeteria.

Hot meals of turkey and mashed potatoes were delivered to people staying at Londonderry High School. There were about 100 visitors with more expected, said Leslie Shaffer, a spokeswoman for the American Red Cross. She believed most would still be there on Saturday.

The numbers also were rising at Nashua High School South, as well, as surrounding towns filled up their own shelters, said Mark Sousa, the city's emergency manager.

People lost power as far south as Pennsylvania, but most of the outages were in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maine and New York. Ice-covered trees cracked and fell on roads and cars.

"This is pathetic," said Bob Cott of Portland, Maine, who lost power. "I'm already sick of winter and we have nine days to go before it officially begins."

At least one death was related to the storm: New Hampshire officials said a 49-year-old Danville man who lived in a camper died of carbon monoxide poisoning after turning on his generator when his power went out Thursday night.

Both Lynch and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick declared states of emergency Friday morning and called up members of the National Guard. Five hundred Massachusetts Guard members were cleaning up debris and clearing access to downed power lines. Lynch put 150 on alert and deployed 25.

"All of the resources at our disposal have been made available to try to get the roads clear and power restored," said Patrick, adding that it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday to the 350,000 homes and businesses in his state left in the dark.

"This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."

In Methuen, Mass., 40-year-old Itziar Richardson of North Andover was staying at a Red Cross shelter at the Comprehensive Grammar School with her husband and their 2-month-old son.

"I'm not having a good day," she said. "It's definitely not the best situation with the baby, but you have to make the best of it."

Crews from Canada and South Carolina were headed to Maine, where Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours. Utilities there chipped away at a huge backlog of power outages, reducing the total of more than 225,000 customers to about 210,000, mostly in southern and coastal areas.

In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the statewide total to more than 255,000.

"Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."

In Vermont, four shelters were set up in southern Vermont for the more than 20,000 customers who were without power Friday night. It could be days before some homes and businesses get their lights back on, officials said.

Route 9 between Brattleboro and Bennington, Vt., a major road, was closed because of downed trees.

The ice storm extended to Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 customers, most of them in the Poconos, lost power, and Connecticut, where some 17,000 customers were without electricity at the height of the storm. Those states mostly got heavy rain or rain changing to snow.

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Hey, it's England, Vort.

The only things more certain than rain are death and taxes. :p



Oh yeah...that was a pretty dumb question!
LOL
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Quoting vortfix:
Glad to hear that.
Are you expecting more rain?



Hey, it's England, Vort.

The only things more certain than rain are death and taxes. :p
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MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
240 AM EST SAT DEC 13 2008

THE SW NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN...
PRIMARY COLD FRONT EXTENDS FROM 31N69W TO E CUBA WITH
REINFORCING FRONT ON ITS HEELS EXTENDING FROM 31N73W TO THE
STRAITS OF FLORIDA. WINDS BEHIND THE PRIMARY FRONT ARE GENERALLY
LESS THAN 20 KT WITH THE STRONGER WINDS NOTED W OF THE SECONDARY
FRONT AND IN THE 20-25 KT RANGE OVER THE FAR NW PORTION OF THE
AREA. HIGH PRESS CURRENTLY OVER THE SE CONUS MOVES NE OFF THE
MID ATLC COAST AND STRENGTHENS WITH VEERING NE WINDS LATER TODAY
INCREASING TO 20-30 KT TONIGHT AND SUN N OF THE FRONTAL
BOUNDARY. SEAS GRADUALLY BUILD TO 9-14 FT BY LATE SUN. 20-30 KT
WINDS CONTINUE INTO MON OVER VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE AREA WITH NWW3
BUILDING SEAS TO 10-16 FT. TRAJECTORY AND FOCUS OF THE WINDS
CHANGES TUE AND WED WITH N TO NE WINDS OF 20-25 KT PRIMARILY E
OF 70W. THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN AREA OF LOW
PRESS WELL E OF THE ZONE N OF 25N AND ALONG 55W.
THIS TRAJECTORY
OF WINDS AND SWELLS MAY PUSH 12-14 FT SEAS WITH 11-12 SEC
PERIODS INTO THE MONA AND ANEGADA PASSAGES BOTH DAYS. AS A FINAL
NOTE THE AREA OF LOW PRESS MAY HAVE TO BE MONITORED FOR SIGNS OF
SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT NEXT WEEK.

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Glad to hear that.
Are you expecting more rain?

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Quoting vortfix:
That is a tremendous amount of rain Cotillion!
I hope you're not in the middle of that.



Thankfully not, it's damp here but not flooded.
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That is a tremendous amount of rain Cotillion!
I hope you're not in the middle of that.

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Phillipines Atmospherical Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration

The Tropical Storm East of Bicol region is expected to enter the Philippine Area of Responsibility this evening and it will be named "ULYSSES".

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #1 (0900z)
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At 5:00 PM PhST, Tropical Storm Ulysses (DOLPHIN) located at 13.9°N 135.5°E or 1,130 km east of Bicol region has 10 minute sustained winds of 85 km/h (45 knots) with gustiness up to 100 km/h (55 knots).

Additional Information
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Tropical Storm "ULYSSES" is still too far to affect any part of the country.
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Extensive flash flooding has hit the south-west of England overnight, according to the emergency services.

Somerset and Devon were especially badly hit, with up to 18 inches of rain in places, said Norman Evans of Devon and Somerset Fire Service.

He said the service had received about 100 calls, and crews had been called out to deal with up to 10 rescues involving flooded homes or vehicles.

Mr Evans urged motorists to travel only if the trip was absolutely neccessary.

Road conditions were "atrocious", he said. The worst hit areas were said to be Chard, Ilminster, Shepton Mallet and Street.

Flood warnings

The BBC in Plymouth said four people were rescued from their cars in separate incidents when they became stuck in floodwater in Devon.

The environment agency issued flood warnings for the River Axe, the River Isle and the River Tone.

Mr Evans said the rain was expected to move away from Devon into Somerset during the morning, and then on into Dorset and further east.

The Environment Agency has one severe flood warning in place for the River Lyd in Lydney, Gloucestershire, and a further 26 flood warnings across south-west England. There is also a warning of severe rain for Wiltshire.
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Quoting reasonmclucus:
When are you going to recognize that "global warming" is nothing more than the warm portion of long term weather cycles. Even global warming believers admit that temperature during the 20th Century only changed by about 0.17%

Isn't it still global warming, regardless of the cause? I think regardless of whether scientists agree as to the underlying causes, i. e. naturally occurring vs. manmade, they do agree that a warming trend is occurring.

Thus your point is moot.
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87. Inyo
Regardless of global warming, the cold isn't limited to the eastern half of the US. We are expecting snow just about everywhere in Washington and Oregon, and in the hills above San Francisco and Los Angeles. Where I live in Santa Barbara, the Santa Lucia Mountains above the city could get several inches of snow, and even the Santa Monica Mountains (malibu area) may get a dusting. It's COLD!
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