Santa Ana winds ease over Los Angeles

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:17 PM GMT on November 17, 2008

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The Santa Ana winds have died down over Los Angeles, and winds should remain below 25 mph today through Thursday over the region. This should allow fire fighters to gain control of the three major blazes burning near the city. Wind gusts in excess of hurricane force--74 mph--were recorded at several mountain locations Friday and Saturday, thanks to the major difference in pressure between a strong high pressure system to the northeast of Los Angeles and lower pressure air over the ocean. By 4 pm PST Sunday, though, winds had fallen below 15 mph over the entire region (Figure 1), and a weak sea breeze had formed near the coast. Taking a look at this morning's wundermap (with fire layer turned on) for Los Angeles, we can see that winds are below 5 mph over the region. All high wind warnings and fire weather warnings have been canceled for California, but continued hot and dry conditions will slow down efforts of fire fighters to control the fires. The smoke has caused pollution problems in the city, and the Air Quality Index (AQI) for particulate matter less than 2.5 microns (PM2.5) exceeded the EPA standard yesterday. Today's pollution forecast calls for PM2.5 levels in the unhealthy for sensitive groups level, in excess of the EPA standards.


Figure 1. Wundermap (with fire layer turned on) for Los Angeles, California, at 4 pm EST Sunday November 16, 2008. Two major fires, the Sylmar fire to the north, and the Freeway fire to the east, are shown. The black colors show the relative concentration of smoke. The colored circles show the temperature, and the lines going into the circles show the direction the wind is blowing from. The perpendicular lines at the the end of these lines show how strong the wind is blowing. Each longer line is an additional 10 mph, and each shorter perpendicular line is an additional 5 mph. Thus, for the circle at upper right with a 66° temperature, the wind was blowing 15 mph out of the NNE. (Note that we've changed the convention used on marine maps, where these so-called "wind barbs" denote the winds in knots, not mph).

High temperature records
The hot flow of air off the desert set numerous high temperature records across Southern California on Sunday. Records set or tied included 88° in downtown Los Angeles, 93° in Camalillo; 86° at LAX airport; 90° at Long Beach; 89° at Paso Robles; 87° at Santa Maria; 91° at Woodland Hills; 87° at UCLA; 93° at Oxnard; and 87° at Santa Barbara. On Saturday, 30 high temperature records were set or tied across the state of California, including a blistering 93° in downtown Los Angeles (old record, 90° in 1936). The hottest new record was 94° at the Santa Ana Fire Station.

The forecast
Hot and dry conditions will persist over Los Angeles today, then gradually cool Tuesday and Wednesday. On Wednesday and Thursday, winds should reverse and blow cool, moist air from the oceans over the city, allowing fire fighters to gain full control of the fires. By Saturday, the GFS model is indicating a possible return to Santa Ana wind conditions for the weekend, but the ECMWF model disagrees. At this point, it appears we may get a weak Santa Ana wind event this weekend, but nowhere near as strong as the one that just ended.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken on Sunday, November 16, 2008 at 11:30 am PST. Smoke from the Sylmar fire 20 miles north of Los Angeles has drifted out over the Catalina Islands, joined by a larger plume of smoke from the "Freeway Fire" in Orange County.

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Bonedog - Stillwaiting - went on vacation every-year to Sanibel Island on the West Coast of Florida off of Fort Myers beach. Went out to the north side of Sanibel which is actually another island called Captiva. Did this for ten years straight. Caught the limit for Snook and Redfish everytime by fishing near anybodys dock about 30 feet out in the water about 30 feet away from the dock casting towards and under their dock, in 3 to 4 feet of water, like TheShepard says - live small bait fish of any kind free lining - no weights or shiny connections of any kind. When they hit you have to keep a tight line because the snook have razor sharp gills and they will roll and cut the line with them.
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Bonedog..Shepard
The latest hot thing here in N.C. is using Butterfly Jigs and using them in 150 to 200 feet of water over wrecks and rocks for A.J.s I am here to tell you, a 100 lb A.J. will put you to your knees!!!!!
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Landed a Jewfish once talk about a fight!

Yea surfomom heard they were becoming a problem. They love juvi fish, main staple of their diet.

Also dont worry I already knew about Indian River ;) Just because I dont live there doesn't mean I dont know the spots. Have been fishing the west coast since I was 10.
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Quoting theshepherd:
Surfmom
Ditto on the fishing style Kayak.
I love my 14 1/2 footer.
Sometimes I carry it onboard my other boats to reach favorite spots.
They can't hide.....


Hmm, any of you Kayakers brave enough to do this?
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HeyFtpiercecane - on my way out the door, how are all those babytoes???? Got a little surf out there in the gomex, but I'm wussing out. Waves should be better tomorrow -- so I'm "saving myself" for Wednesday. Going to try out my 3/4 --hoping it's a little more toasty... not ready for the booties yet, just hate surfing with those on the feet. I like to feel my board when I hit the deck.

Had a great three days this past Friday,Saturday & Sunday. Got to get out w/my son on Sunday -- fills the heart w/joy --you'll love it when your tribe hits the deck!!
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Let's have some trivia:

When was the first *named* major hurricane to hit Florida? (I.e. hit at major hurricane strength, and not names indicated by the Phonetic alphabet.)
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Surfmom
Ditto on the fishing style Kayak.
I love my 14 1/2 footer.
Sometimes I carry it onboard my other boats to reach favorite spots.
They can't hide.....
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ROTFL -- Well, Shep, we can agree on the fishing!!!! YUP, Indian River is our snook place of choice!!! Young buck get's those greenies and bam, hit, bam hit!!!! Was surprised you shared the secret LOL -- although locals said snook population was down this year...... one guy blamed it on the Goliath/Jewfish grouper -- said they wre cleaning up everything... wondered about that.
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good nw wind here will help throw that red tail hawk a couple exta yards on the north side of the inlet tonight.... come on lunker!
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thanks Shepard. Next time down I will try that.

I wouldn't even mind hooking one (blue) I love the fight fish give, I dont keep them. But I know I need it to be leaded to be considered landed.

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I guess I am very cynical Shep..... their "sworn testimony" holds little to no value in my world --I have grown up in a time where integrity, credibility, honesty have been traits rarely seen in politicians -- sadly more of the opposite is the rule of thumb. It's always gone on mind you, I'm not that naive, just seems more acceptable among the population these days.
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Speaking of dinner Surfmom i can't wait for turkey day....my favorite day all year....no diet that day and my Christmas decor and lites go on that nite also......



I love turkey too TS,I'll be putting lights up the day after,as I'll be eating at 1pm,and work calls at 3pm,though I have sat. off,so I'll be putting up lights the day after......on another note,it looks like NYC area got there first snow showers of the year!!!!
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235 Bonedog
Jose Webe(Spanish Fly) hooked 28 blues before he landed his first one,#29. Then he lost #30.
Try Cottonwood Canal in Flamingo for some young tarpon fun. Indian River Lagoon has been most productive for snook for me. Large greenies freelined is deadly on both.
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thanks surfmom. Kayaks and me dont mix LOL I am a good shore caster though.
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Bonedog, when you come back to FL we'll hook you up.....perhaps you borrow our fsihing kayak and then go out to a few "secret" spots we know about.

Gulf is still 68 degrees... but I just can't get out in it today...and it looks like too much work today. Going for my run instead -- don't have to ride the horses tomorrow, seems like a better idea then. Waves should be better as well, more bang for the buck predicted as well.

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228 mom
Thanks. But , the senate floor debates (aka Sophism)and "sworn testimony" are two differant animals. lol
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Quoting leftovers:
cold snaps like this are great for fishing e.cent.fl. last night i caught a 32 inch snook great for the fryer. hapu weather



wait,wait,wait a minute,where did you catch it?bay,intercoastal,canal...and what did you use to catch it????,I've been waiting soooo long to eat a snook,every time I've caught them its been out of season or they where to small!!!!...Do you have any advice for a fellow fisherman about how to catch a snook!!!,thanks abunch...
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thanks Surfmom =)

Thanks shepherd. Yes if anyone knows bonefish it shows my fishing ablity. I do know its hard on a captain to pull a Blue, that I do know. Swords I have landed plenty, same for whites and blacks. Just want my Blue =)
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217 - Smiles Skye, two of our get wooly, the ARgentine keeps a thin coat....blankets are on all our 4 leggeds. So nice to see how easily they breath w/out humidity
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I hear you Tampa. Folks have been telling me that since I found out what a snook was. I try and try and try.

I think I would have better luck catching a crocodile in my bathtub then a snook Florida LOL
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214bonedog -- MAY ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!

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223 Bonedog
Blues are a rare bird for any captain. Better luck with swords than the elusive blue.
Can't figure your dilemma with tarpon and snook ???
Your success with bones proves your prowess.
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BBBBRRRRRRR!!!!!

Headed your way So FL people

Issued by The National Weather Service
Mobile, AL
7:14 am CST, Tue., Nov. 18, 2008

... COLDEST TEMPERATURES OF THE CURRENT COLD SEASON EXPECTED LATE TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING...

A RAIN AND CLOUD FREE COLD FRONT HAS PASSED THROUGH THE REGION AND IS MOVING SOUTH INTO THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO EARLY THIS MORNING. BEHIND THIS FRONT... AN INCREASING NORTHERLY WIND FLOW WILL ALLOW COLDER TEMPERATURES TO FILTER INTO THE REGION. BY LATE TONIGHT... HIGH PRESSURE WILL SETTLE OVER MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA... BRINGING LIGHT TO CALM WINDS AND IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS. AS A RESULT LOOK FOR OVERNIGHT MINIMUM TEMPERATURES TO FALL INTO THE MID TO UPPER 20S ACROSS MOST OF THE INTERIOR ZONES TONIGHT... WITH LOWER 30S CLOSER TO THE COAST. SOME MID 30S OVERNIGHT MIN TEMPS ALONG THE BEACHES. THESE MIN TEMPERATURES WILL BE NEAR RECORD LEVELS OVER MUCH OF THE AREA... EXCEPT FOR ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COASTAL AREAS. A FEW OF THE NORMALLY COLDER LOCATIONS OVER THE INTERIOR AREAS MAY SEE SOME OVERNIGHT MIN TEMPS IN THE LOWER 20S... BUT SHOULD NOT BE WIDESPREAD ENOUGH OR OF LONG ENOUGH DURATION TO WARRANT A HARD FREEZE WATCH/WARNING.

THESE CONDITIONS COULD KILL UNPROTECTED CROPS AND OTHER SENSITIVE OUTDOOR PLANTS. EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED TO TAKE ACTIONS TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR TEMPERATURE SENSITIVE PLANTS AS WELL AS FOR PETS.
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sooo true Tampaspin..... my son and I feel the same way -- they see you -- no matter what fancy, tricky, special lure you're dangling...they ain't gonna go for it.... that's why we do have a hard time eating them ..... they just seem soo intelligent. Easier time eating the ones from the East coast.... kid thinks they are not as smart...... (yea--lame excuse I know)
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Sorry Shep --- but you really "trust" anything that comes out of the senate???????
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Quoting Bonedog:
LOL Tampa. Thats funny.

I dont know what it is, I can stalk bonefish on the flats of Walker's Cay and land them but cant get a snook to take my bait, go figure.


ONe thing i found out about Snook, i have never caught one that i see....and nearly every person i have talk to say the same....funny but, its almost as if, we see you and they see me....lol
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theshepard - going out on a plank here so don't push me off.... but MichaelSTL's - science is credtiable and not the hysteria/news marketing crap so often passed off as science. If it's not global warming -- then it is climate change ...ignoring the numbers and these observations is not wise... even if we don't agree.

What is important is that we as humans take responsibility for our dirty pollution -- there's no excuse for us leaving our poop/dirty energy/chemicals around this beautiful and fragile planet -- whether it makes an effect on the global picture or not. It is also foolish to think that our actions have no consequence --every action has a consequence.

We need corporations to take responsibility for their actions. They are granted the rights of an individual by law -- but they have no conscience and as we see economically, socially and environmentally they have no honor.

If the people could come up w/a clean source of FREE energy, (and it is out there) we could regain better control of our lives and no longer be chained to the corporations and handful of wealthly families that run & control "the show".
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LOL Tampa. Thats funny.

I dont know what it is, I can stalk bonefish on the flats of Walker's Cay and land them but cant get a snook to take my bait, go figure.
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Yup MissNadia I understand that. I have gone to The Pass numerous times during the run and jocked for position around The Hole yet a few strikes and thats about it.

I have traveled to top Marlin spots to catch one but to no avail. Caught alot of species but not a Blue.

The snook well they are just obnoxious to me. I can sit there and sight cast to them all day and night long and they just sit there with the bait on their nose and wave at me. Guy to the sides of me landing them non stop.

Guess the fish gods dont want me to land those three.
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great view of lake effect snow....

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212 MSTL
So what you are saying is you refuse to read the links and educate yourself to sworn testimony from a Senate investigative committee ???
Instead you yield to the profit driven motives of the liberal press and those who seek the unsworn umbrella of the "I say so" crowd.
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Quoting Bonedog:
hearing about snook. one day I will finally land one, those buggers stare at me and I swear they taunt me.

3 fish I have tried years for but have yet to land

snook
tarpon
blue marlin

everything else I have the photos for. I will one day land those three I swear LOL


BoneDog your not holding your mouth correctly......LMAO...wow up at the Ocala powerplant my brother and i fish the warm spill way that comes out of the plant and wow is the fishing good there..
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Quoting Bonedog:
hearing about snook. one day I will finally land one, those buggers stare at me and I swear they taunt me.

3 fish I have tried years for but have yet to land

snook
tarpon
blue marlin

everything else I have the photos for. I will one day land those three I swear LOL

I know what you mean. I don't know how many lures I have sight cast to tarpon and never hooked up. White marlin are plentiful around here in the heat of summer, but the blues just don't seem to be around.
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217. Skyepony (Mod)
Michael~ Perhaps the higher than expected WV feedback is part of why things are melting faster than the worst of the gloom & doom has predicted. We might not have it all figured out but it's obvious..it's gonna affect generations badly.

Surfmom~ the herd is loving the weather. I shaved Cheerpony (the welsh) back on Oct 1st expecting a cooler winter. A warmer winter I tend to wait til the 3rd or 4th week in Oct. It's grown in perfectly, more than Skyepony (who doesn't get much coat & will be wanting a blanket tonight) & way less than a wooly mammoth.
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Speaking of dinner Surfmom i can't wait for turkey day....my favorite day all year....no diet that day and my Christmas decor and lites go on that nite also......
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hearing about snook. one day I will finally land one, those buggers stare at me and I swear they taunt me.

3 fish I have tried years for but have yet to land

snook
tarpon
blue marlin

everything else I have the photos for. I will one day land those three I swear LOL
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Quoting MissNadia:
We have NO snow here ... last storm was in 89!!!!
oops got that mixed up --good then --hope no 89 repeat, although my youngbuck has never even seen a flurry and LOL thinks he's going to Cornell for school & polo --we'lllll see. Even so, there are some tropic kids that make the adjustment to cold just fine
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Leftovers....... and you didn't invite me for dinner????? bet there wasn't any leftovers.
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Quoting surfmom:
Good to hear MissNadia ; ) --sorry 'bout the fishing though....actualy sorry about the snow..unless you like it.

We have NO snow here ... last storm was in 89!!!!
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Good to hear MissNadia ; ) --sorry 'bout the fishing though....actually sorry about the snow..unless you like it.

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Quoting vortfix:
Scare-Mongering on Steroids: NBC Warns Oceans Could Rise 200 Feet!

Repeats Kilimanjaro Silliness


Green Week is upon us again, time for more global warming scare-mongering by the NBC family of networks. Kicking things off during half-time of last night’s NBC Sunday Night Football, Meredith Vieira put Al Gore’s alarmism to shame. [H/t reader Mick L.] Gore predicted a measly 20-foot rise in sea levels, enough to drown much of Manhattan. Vieira outdid him by a factor of 10, raising the spectre of a sea-level rise of 200 feet . That exaggerates the increase predicted by scientists by literally hundreds of times. Vieira, speaking from Sydney, Australia, where she is focusing on water shortages, chatted with Bob Costas.

BOB COSTAS: Where are Matt, Al and Ann this go-around? MEREDITH VIEIRA: Matt [Lauer] is in Belize, he’s off the coast at a place called the Blue Hole. It is the home to some of the most exotic marine life in the world, and all sorts of beautiful coral reefs and they’re all being threatened because the water temperatures are rising. Al [Roker] on the other hand is in Iceland looking at the glaciers which store most of our fresh water. And if they were to melt, the oceans could rise at least 200 feet. And our intrepid reporter Ann Curry, well she is climbing Mount Kilimanjaro as I speak. She hopes to reach the summit by Friday. The snows of Mount Kilimanjaro are rapidly melting, and that is threatening the people of Tanzania. Now, it is apparently true that a melting

Note: NBC is pure comic relief. Pure comedy. For a sea level rebuttal see this report.

Also, NBC appears to be trumpeting Kilimanjaro ice melt as result of global warming. Pure scientific nonsense!! See this PDF with numerous studies showing that Kilimanjaro changes are a combination of natural and related to land use changes. Temperatures have DECLINED........
....




Give it a rest MichaelSTL
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Mucho Gracias Tampa for the heads-up...getting ready to send out a mass e-mail to all my horsey folks....... Horses fair better in the cold then heat...but this is a bit extreme for Fl. horses...been years since their bodies have had this cold. I am SOOOOO glad I saw this coming and did not clip. I also have a weakness for their long fuzzy coats --which is not esthetically
the correct in polo..... oh well, my kids will be warm
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Quoting surfmom:
Goood MORNING MissNadia -- guess no fishing/boating for you today. Do you like those cold temps. & flurries... can you still get out and walk the beach?

Hey morning Mom.. no fishing for me until March. I walk 20 minutes in the A.M. and 20 in the P.M.... feeling good!
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yup NE also looking the NAO looks to stay neutral to negative during the forecast run.

Hope it is a snowier than normal this winter. Finally be abale to justify the snowblower purchase 3 years ago LOL
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Goood MORNING MissNadia -- guess no fishing/boating for you today. Do you like those cold temps. & flurries... can you still get out and walk the beach?
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Surfmom watch those ponies tonite.....heaters may be needed......
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