Fierce Santa Ana winds continue to fan Southern California fires

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:25 PM GMT on November 15, 2008

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A strong Santa Ana wind event continues over Southern California, fanning two major fires that have caused over $100 million in damage near Los Angeles. Wind gusts up to 76 mph were clocked early this morning at Camp Nine near the Sylmar fire, which is burning in the mountains about twenty miles north of downtown Los Angeles. Yesterday, winds gusted to 72 mph near the Montecito Hills fire in Santa Barbara County. A Fire Weather Warning continues for the Los Angeles area, and high wind warning for winds of 25 to 45 mph with gusts to 60 mph have been posted for surrounding mountain areas. A strong high pressure system has built in to the north and east, and the clockwise flow of air around this high pressure system will drive strong east-to-west offshore winds from the mountains to the ocean over the Los Angeles metropolitan area through Sunday morning. As air drops out of the mountains, it will warm due to compression as its pressure increases. The warm winds have caused several record highs to be set, including 91° in Burbank yesterday. Very low humidities in the 5-10% range have contributed to the dangerous fire conditions. Fire conditions will ease on Sunday as high pressure weakens, allowing winds to slow down. However, winds are not forecast to reverse direction and blow moist air inland from the ocean until Tuesday.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken on Saturday, November 15, 2008 at 10:45 am PST. Smoke from the Sylmar fire 20 miles north of Los Angeles has drifted out over the Catalina Islands. A smaller plume of smoke from the "Freeway Fire" in Orange County is also visible.

Tropical update
In the tropics, there are no threat areas to discuss, and none of the reliable models are calling for tropical storm formation over the next seven days. However, it is possible that an extratropical low expected to form south of the Azores Islands on Monday will be able to gradually acquire tropical characteristics during the week, and could become a subtropical storm late next week. Such a storm is not likely to threaten any land areas.

Jeff Masters

Sayre Fire (Energis)
This is a view of the Sayre Fire from a distance.
Sayre Fire
Southern California Fires (SBKaren)
Traveling north on Pacific Coast Highway and looking east once again. Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge in the background. Closer to home when this picture was taken. But it's a clear view of how smokey the air can be in one area, and just a couple of miles over - it's clear blue skies. Just awful.
Southern California Fires

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Conchy - yes it's true the running feet do go faster... perhaps to get back to the cozy slippers
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Quoting surfmom:
Interesting project laying the pipeline through the gulf.

Post 264 - Perhaps we are awakening from our sheeple slumber. When the animals are too well fed they get very lazy and complacent. Now we are faced with realities we were able to avoid acknowledge by shopping. American children are hearing "NO, we can't afford that now" for the first time in many years..... this will be for our better good. The world will not end in 2012 -- it will shift to a better consciousness... I hope, But one should also look and study some of the ancient Hopi prophecies -- which look to the weather as a signal of what is ahead
touche' surfmom....I grew up hearing that we couldn't afford it and that was fine - you learn to appreciate thinks a lot more.
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I should explain. Trinidad supplies LPG to the US. That is Liquified Petroleum Gas.
It is liquified by compressing it to liquid state. Loaded on ships that look like tankers with enormous rounded tanks topsides. The ship is a compression chamber. One cubic yard of the compressed gas, at atmospheric press., would fill a very large aircraft hanger with Gas.
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Interesting project laying the pipeline through the gulf.

Post 264 - Perhaps we are awakening from our sheeple slumber. When the animals are too well fed they get very lazy and complacent. Now we are faced with realities we were able to avoid acknowledge by shopping. American children are hearing "NO, we can't afford that now" for the first time in many years..... this will be for our better good. The world will not end in 2012 -- it will shift to a better consciousness... I hope, But one should also look and study some of the ancient Hopi prophecies -- which look to the weather as a signal of what is ahead
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Quoting pottery:
Beel. post 265. Sad, very sad. But true. Very true. OhDear me.

Scary sad!
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Quoting surfmom:
OOOOOPS.... mea culpa Theshepherd - that was an oops

Too much Pottery brew ;) !!
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Beel. post 265. Sad, very sad. But true. Very true. OhDear me.
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So loving the gorgeous weather.....doors open to let the nice cool, fresh air in....it is 47 outside! Surfmom, the feet go so much faster in this weather!
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273. beell
Be verwee careful bf!
Off to run an errand.
A good warm evening to ALL!


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256 michaelstl
Holy cow, man.
Give it a rest.
Everyone on this blog is well versed on global history.
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Bjanmama. A drink to Good Sense is a Grand Idea. Cheers. May it make a difference.
As to the rest of your post, good one.
I will wait in anticipation, to see the responses to that.
Hope there are several, as they will be interesting.....
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Quoting surfmom:
If it's natural gas I believe that is the better source. My older son just finished working on a new pipe line that went from Alabama to Tampa for natural gas -- seems that the states are loaded with natural gas and it's a lot more cleaner, less hazardous to the environment -- I don't know much about it yet, but they spent a hell of a lot of money to lay the line because they feel there's a market. Also much cheaper to maintain then oil rigs
Absolutely! My Dad retired from SONAT (Southern Nat. Gas) and it is plentiful in the South.
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[edit] Hurricane Omar
Category 4 hurricane (SSHS)


Duration October 13—October 18
Intensity 135 mph (215 km/h) (1-min), 958 mbar (hPa)
Main article: Hurricane Omar (2008)
A tropical disturbance in the eastern Caribbean Sea was in an area unfavorable for development in the second week of October. While drifting across the region, upper-level winds diminished enough for the tropical disturbance to strengthen and to develop into Tropical Depression Fifteen on October 13. It strengthened to Tropical Storm Omar the next day. Omar quickly strengthened into a 70 mph (110 km/h) storm that afternoon, and became a hurricane that night. It remained a hurricane through that night and it changed little in intensity through the next day, but that evening Omar intensified quickly and became a 115 mph Category 3 storm, and became a 125 mph (205 km/h) storm the next morning. In a discussion supplied by the National Hurricane Center, it stated that Omar may have peaked as a minimal Category 4 early that morning. This was later confirmed during November in their Running Best Track.[32] However, wind shear and dry air quickly weakened Omar to a minimal hurricane that afternoon as it raced towards the northeast at 26 mph (41 km/h). After dropping to tropical storm strength it became a hurricane again on October 17. It degenerated to a remnant low on October 18.

Hurricane Omar winds 135mph

Duration October 13—October 18
Intensity 135 mph (215 km/h) (1-min), 958 mbar (hPa)


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OOOOOPS.... mea culpa Theshepherd - that was an oops
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If it's natural gas I believe that is the better source. My older son just finished working on a new pipe line that went from Alabama to Tampa for natural gas -- seems that the states are loaded with natural gas and it's a lot more cleaner, less hazardous to the environment -- I don't know much about it yet, but they spent a hell of a lot of money to lay the line because they feel there's a market. Also much cheaper to maintain then oil rigs
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265. beell
Re: 232.
Ok, Pottery, I found it...

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Quoting pottery:
Hi there, Bjanmama. Good to see you.
I did notice that Surfmom left out the lime. But I figured, wont do her any lasting harm!!. As to the clove, I have not tried that along with the punch. But I will.
You are right. Climate change is evident here. I think it is obvious that a small Island would react to the small changes in things like SST more than a continent.
And yes, the drop in oil price is good news for most people. Especially now.
I was talking to a guy from the Hilton chain in the Islands. They are worried. Low bookings. Etc. This will affect your tourism badly.
Interesting times.........


Oh yes, verrry intesting! I teach at UWI,one of those much maligned evil creatures that clearly do nothing but talk you know what) am a historian and teach Development and Environment stuff, watching these economic events since Viet-Nam, awhile-- very scary- yet at the same time, the idea of a G20, instead of the colonial powers, more recognition of the social issues, finally the demise of crazy economic neo-libealism- (and I didn't say it so there is no bigpolitical discussion) but virtually zero government where it should be in regulatory functions so that companies, corporations and CEO's etc. don't run amok in their crazy greediness- less the american/roman empire and more cooperation (which the american people overwhelmingly for YEARS have said they want- it's no fun being the big superpower!) and we may get more cooperation out of this and better international regulatory functions- no one country can control a TNC! Ask the rust-belt states in the US! let alone Dominica or Senegal and other small states.

But for the Caribbean, and all small developing countries that depend on the world's biggest and most fickle industry,Tourism, these are going to be really rough times- but again the same nonsense occurred here-re "free" credit 100% mortgages- giant mansions and huge Ford trucks for our small roads - will finally come to an end- and maybe, just maybe, that old bajan conservatism and penchant for savings(god rest its soul) might just reappear- and just maybe, now that there is no longer one superpower- it is mortgaged to the Arabs and the chinese and the Japanese- we will HAVE to work things out or the Maya prophecy(? anyway their calendar said the end of the world was 2012) will come true. Don't believe it- but they were pretty smart mathematicians- of course maybe most people here wouldn't exactly subscribe to their religious tenets- nor I! So let's have a drink to cooperation, thriftiness and the most lacking ingredient in the world today- common sense!! AND PLEASE were drowning,isn't it flooding in T&T, can't we quit blessing the rain and do an anti-rain dance and pray for it to stop?
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Quoting surfmom:
Look at all you guys checking the ocean/gulf out LOL. Today was Day three, only one spot on my key was going off good enough - My young buck and buddies found some good waves on Casey Key.

I'm exhausted - the cold really drains me - even so it was lovely. Friday the gulf was 72, yesterday 70, today 68

Got to pull out the winter running gear (which I only used 3x last year)Just don't enjoy all these garments -- life should be flipflops, sun dresses, bikinis,t-shirts & shorts
Life should be flipflops,sundresses,bikinis, t-shirts, and shorts, AMEN!
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Tis true Pottery, I'm sure there's some witchy. whiskery old crone seal out there who deserves the fate...
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Good thing Sugar.
I am trying to save the World. Plant trees. Dont burn them.
At the same time, your gas fired heater is providing me with an enhanced life style. (Trinidad supplies 70% of American LPG). So your warmth is of great comfort to me.
Sounds kind of contradictory right ?
Well, I'm working on that.........
heheheheh
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Ok mom
Grumpy ol' farts it is ;>)

And please don't call me "sea"shepherd.
That's the group ran by the idiot using Steve Irwin's name to endanger the lives of his crew and others down in the Antartic.
lol
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Look at all you guys checking the ocean/gulf out LOL. Today was Day three, only one spot on my key was going off good enough - My young buck and buddies found some good waves on Casey Key.

I'm exhausted - the cold really drains me - even so it was lovely. Friday the gulf was 72, yesterday 70, today 68

Got to pull out the winter running gear (which I only used 3x last year)Just don't enjoy all these garments -- life should be flipflops, sun dresses, bikinis,t-shirts & shorts
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Quoting beell:
I did visit his blog Drak. It's an excellent weather blog for the Heartland.






I don't live up north. Relevance is little.
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257. beell
I did visit his blog on a regular basis, Drak. It's an excellent weather blog for the Heartland.




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Pottery, it was wood burning up until three years ago when hurricane Ivan and then Dennis took their toll on the chimney and we had leaks and wood rot in the siding. (We live one block from the Gulf, so fireplaces are rare). We replaced the siding and capped the chimney and installed gas logs. Now, it's a nice heater for the lower level of the house and keeps the electric heat pump from running....which is more efficient???
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Surfmom. I Object. How come only men seals are grumpy old farts ??
I've known some gru....
well, never mind.
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Quoting beell:
yup!


Life without STL's blog will be so dark and lonely... LOL
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252. beell
yup!
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Quoting beell:
Aw, come on STL, You champion your beliefs well. Your posts are consistent and well made.
Same can be said for your weather posts.

Asteroid Impacts, Earthquakes, Hurricanes. So many things we cannot control that can kill us all. Sometimes it can be hard to consider the things we can.

off to see if i has been banned...




You're #45 on his list.
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250. beell
oh well, never mind...
45 with a bullet and climbing up the chart!
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Lit the fireplace while drinking Pottery's Toddy....
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248. beell
Aw, come on STL, You champion your beliefs well. Your posts are consistent and well made.
Same can be said for your weather posts.

Asteroid Impacts, Earthquakes, Hurricanes. So many things we cannot control that can kill us all. Sometimes it can be hard to consider the things we can.

Like
War, Hunger, Disease,and even...GW

off to see if i has been banned...


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Quoting theshepherd:
Pot. OK, keep your stupid ol' bamboo.
I'll burn baby seal blubber.
,,,,,, sea shepherd, please not the babies....get the grumpy,nasty, old fart, men seals
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Hi Sugar. Keep warm. Is your fire wood burning?
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howdy mom
Vilano Bch was thigh high, glassy and steady all day Sat with a brisk offshore blow.
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Quoting surfmom:
I looked like an Orca with all my neoprene on on today - I thought about Pottery-land, warm waters where surfers never need to know about the constraints of neoprene.


SurfMom, our neck of the gulf was FLAT today with a Light NW wind. But it was beautiful.
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215stormchaser07 - Wow , that's a fascinating picture!!
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Looks like I am banned from MichaelSTL's blog for an indefinite amount of time.
Will not keep me from sleeping tonight.
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I looked like an Orca with all my neoprene on on today - I thought about Pottery-land, warm waters where surfers never need to know about the constraints of neoprene.

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10-4 pot
lol
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Good evening! You'd never know I live in Florida...I just lit the fireplace!
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I believe the last time it snowed in Fl.. at least SRQ was 1989/90 (?) remember waking #1 to go out and experience it
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LOL Beel. Good one.
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hope the "frat boys" lose tonight on the Amazing Race!
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Way to go, Sheph. And you can use their toenails and stuff for necklaces and so on. Its all gonna be fine man,
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232. beell
Quoting pottery:
..our National Budget is based on a projected price of 70 dollars a barrel of oil.


Well, our National Budget is based on...is based on...wait, let me get back to you on that!
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Hi there, Bjanmama. Good to see you.
I did notice that Surfmom left out the lime. But I figured, wont do her any lasting harm!!. As to the clove, I have not tried that along with the punch. But I will.
You are right. Climate change is evident here. I think it is obvious that a small Island would react to the small changes in things like SST more than a continent.
And yes, the drop in oil price is good news for most people. Especially now.
I was talking to a guy from the Hilton chain in the Islands. They are worried. Low bookings. Etc. This will affect your tourism badly.
Interesting times.........
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