An appeal for thoughtful discussion

By: ErrorBot , 6:30 PM GMT on February 17, 2014

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Climate change is something that is often fuel for a heated debate. Too often though it turns into a baiting game in which both sides demand that the other prove them wrong. It is one thing to inform people about the dangers of climate change but to argue about it on a public blog about weather is petty.

Create your own blog if you wish to discuss it, if people really care about your opinion then they will respond accordingly.

I have spoken my piece about this, I will not anymore.

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4. Patrap
8:24 PM GMT on February 17, 2014


Resolved to deny climate change

Saturday, 15 February 2014 10:06

By Hutchinson News, Feb. 8

Kansans might not have guessed it, but the Kansas Legislature seemingly is filled with scientists and climatologists who have a deep understanding of the complex nature of the Earth's atmosphere.

And the verdict from this learned group is in: Climate change isn't happening, or at least it's not happening because of anything humankind is doing, carbon emissions are essential and good for the earth, and there is no evidence that anything bad at all is happening in the world.

Period. End of story.

House Resolution No. 6043 urges the United States Congress to oppose President Obama's climate action plan, which calls for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions and encourages development of renewable forms of energy.

The resolution, introduced by the Committee on Energy and Environment, states:

The climate of planet earth is somewhat predictable over hundreds, even thousands of years.

The president's plan is based on multiple erroneous assumptions that have been refuted by a preponderance of scientific evidence.

CO2 produces desirable effects on plant life and is essential to the earth's atmosphere.

Evidence shows there's a disconnect between humans and CO2 emissions

Oceans are rising, but that's not the fault of mankind glaciers have been melting for hundreds of years.

There's record ice in both the Arctic and Antarctic regions.

There's no increase in the number of significant tornadoes; in fact the trend line has been down since 1974.

The worst droughts came between 1930-1942 and 1953-1960. The United States has been materially wetter in the past five decades.

Anyone who has lived in Kansas the past few years knows that these facts are questionable. Just this year, much of the state emerged barely from a prolonged, severe drought that left fields scorched. We've had exceptional storms, massive rainfall in August and summer temperatures in the spring.

Moreover, data from the National Climatic Data Center tells a different story: 2013 tied as the fourth hottest year on record since record-keeping began in 1880; the global land temperature was nearly 2 degrees hotter than the 20th century average, and nine of the 10 hottest years occurred after 2002.

The past two years have seen fewer tornadoes, but since 1950 the trend line is decidedly upward, as is the number of severe storms, and much of North America has experienced more frequent extreme temperatures.

The scientific community has nearly universally accepted that the world's climate is changing and that it is the result of human activity. The deniers like those behind this resolution in the Kansas House will argue that's simply part of the natural earthly cycle.

Even if there was merit to the deniers claims, what's the harm in efforts to reduce pollution and prepare for the future by developing today the renewable energies that one day might be necessary?

Continued efforts to deny easily discernible facts damage our ability to address a real issue and handicap our capacity to examine those issues and develop practical solutions.

Such efforts by nonscientists in the Kansas Legislature are just a sadly comical waste of time and effort.
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3. aquak9
8:09 PM GMT on February 17, 2014



Getting more use out of this than I expected to.
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2. ErrorBot
7:20 PM GMT on February 17, 2014
I'm asking that it be taken to someone else's blog. It's retreading the same ground over and over again. I understand discussing new information as it comes out is fantastic but posting the same tired images over and over is pointless.

Take it to your own blog and discuss it there.
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1. Neapolitan
6:39 PM GMT on February 17, 2014
I think you're missing the point. Since there are dozens of people on Dr. Masters' forum discussing climate change at this very minute, they obviously do care about each other's opinion. And I can tell you from experience that wading in to the middle of that and demanding that everyone change the subject because it bothers you will never work--especially if you only complain and don't actually offer an alternative subject.
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