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Posted by: Zachary Labe, 9:21 PM GMT on January 07, 2009 +1
Thoughts on January 9-10 storm...
Lack of confidence for forecast, therefore no discussion on storm. I believe that much of central Pennsylvania will be dry slotted and then as precipitation moves in, some of it will mix. Accumulations will be lucky to get to 4inches I think at this point. I am not one to give up on a storm, but I have had a bad feeling about this storm all week, just see my posts from a few days ago. I think these warnings may bust badly. I-80 corridor and northward is place to be as frontogensis places heavy snow band at that location. A sharp cutoff can be expected to the south. Then as precipitation moves in due north of low, mixing will take place. What we need to setup is a good initial band across central Pennsylvania as indicated by some earlier model runs on the 700mb RH moisture charts. Whether that will happen or not is a guestion. I have a feeling some areas in York and Lancaster will really get shafted. In any case I hope I am wrong, but this is how I see things this evening. And I would rather feel good to know that I am firm with my gut than stick with the NWS forecast of warning criteria snowfall just because they have a winter storm warning.

Radar...
Radar...

Warnings...
Warnings...

NAO...
NAO...

This is my current rain/snow line...
This is my experimental snow/mix/rain lines. These lines may adjust up to 25miles north or south, but they are my best estimation at this current time. This precipitation line is for the height of the storm, some initial snowfall to south of the lines is expected.

My rain/sleet line is... Deep Valley (Greene County) - Morgantown, WV - Frostburg, MD - Frederick, MD - Manchester, MD - Delta (York County) - Oxford (Chester County) - Wilmington, DE

My sleet/snow line is... Pittsburgh (Alleghany County) - Latrobe (Westmoreland County) - Johnstown (Cambria County) - Bedford (Bedford County) - Shippensburg (Cumberland County) - Middletown (Dauphin County) - Ephrata (Lancaster County) - Quakertown (Bucks County)

These are overall precipitation types. Precipitation types can wander several miles on either side of the lines.

Storm Reports...
None.

Storm Impacts...
1. Significant, widespread snowstorm.
2. Largest snowstorm for Pennsylvania for the winter season.
3. Mixing will cut down on accumulations for border counties.
4. Snow ratios near 13:1, 15:1.
5. Quick moving system.

Snow Map...

*Note the southern part of the 5-9inch will more likely be 4-8inches.

Selected City Accumulations for the Northeast...
Hagerstown, MD- 1-3inches of light snow. Freezing rain up to .1inches.
Baltimore, MD- Light snow/sleet then rain. C-1inch of snow.
Washington, DC- Trace of light snow/sleet then rain.
Wilmington, DE- Light snow then rain. 1-3inches of snow.
Dover, DE- Trace of light snow then rain.
Cape May, NJ- Rain up to .5inches.
Trenton, NJ- 2-4inches of snow then sleet and rain.
New York City, NY- Moderate snow mixing with sleet and rain. 3-5inches of snow possible.
Poughkeepsie, NY- Heavy snow likely. 6-10inches of snow.
Binghamton, NY- Moderate to heavy snow likely. 5-10inches of snow.
Albany, NY- Moderate snow. Snow accumulations 4-8inches.
Hartford, CT- Heavy snow likely. 6-11inches of snow possible.
Concord, NH- 3-5inches of light snow.
Providence, RI- Heavy snow with some sleet. 5-9inches of snow.
Worcester, MA- Heavy snow likely with 6-10inches.
Boston, MA- Heavy snow. 6-10inches of snow likely.
Nantucket, MA- Moderate snow with some sleet. 3-5inches of snow.
Hyannis, MA- Moderate snow with 3-7inches.
Portland, ME- Light snow. 2-4inches.
Bangor, ME- Light snow. C-1inch of snow.
"Subject to Change"

Model Analysis
After one of the most frusturating groups of model runs, we are now finally coming to a consensus. Model blend for my forecast consists of NAM/GFS/GGEM blend with EURO only for idea of mixing farther north. Models took a while to come on a solution as the EURO had a much more amplified runs and took the low well to the north. Meanwhile the GFS was the southern outlier along with the UKMET and showed the low crossing through central Virginia. As we got closer to the event, the NAM provided a middle ground solution and held ever side consistent with it generally trending only a bit to the south. The new EURO has now come around to a NAM track with similar temperature profiles. Track of 850 vortex low seems pretty consistent for all of the models tracking across central Pennsylvania between I-80 and the turnpike. This will cause mixes to occur generally to the south of the turnpike as a sliver of warm air sits at around 900-950mb. Timing is a major issue with the models as the NAM seems to be very slow with the system and even the latest 18z NAM does not show bulk of precipitation until the 24hour mark. Looking at the GGEM model it currently is the farther north, tracking the low across the Turnpike and bringing the H85 0C line as far north as just south of I-80. But during short term predictions I do not advise using the GGEM as the resolution is lower. The Canadian RGEM is a better high resolution model and takes the system very similar to the NAM with similar temperature profiles. The GFS finall came around to a slightly farther north solution taking the low just south of the Mason-Dixon line and that seems to be a good track. Personally I think the GFS has the best hold on this storm with temperature profiles, track, and QPF. Here is the simulated radar from the HIRES NMM for the height of the system...

As you can see it is pretty widespread with precipitation. Here are the final QPF totals for the GFS...

This a relatively sharp gradient, so that will need to be monitored in the form on Nowcasts.

After the storm...
Good Wednesday afternoon!!! This is the only section I will update for today, but there is a lot to talk about. So far I am very pleased with how my winter outlook is unfolding. Cold temperatures have dominated the winter so far along with snowfall +-1-2inches of normal, which is my call. It does appear we are entering what I believe to be the main theme of January. Who is ready to board the clipper express? Extreme cold air has been bottled up in Alaska for quite a while part in response to an unfavorable polar vortex over the region. A shift in this vortex will occur. This vortex is part reason why storm tracks have been through the Great Lakes and Ohio Valley. Lets first look at the teleconnections... The NAO is sharply negative currently with a negative PNA. The negative NAO is balancing out the unfavorable PNA resulting in near normal temperatures for the time period. Right now if we had less blocking and a positive NAO, I think we would be quite mild. The NAO is trending towards a positive state. Now in the past massive swings like this have been accompanied by major storms systems along the coast. In fact all major snowstorms on the east coast have showed a negative to positive trend in NAO. But for now models are speculative to anything of that occuring. 0z GGEM from Wednesday morning had a tightly wound cutoff low inland bombing out, but that scenario seems unlikely for next week. The AO index is positive currently and will be trending sharply negative during the time period of this arctic blast. The PNA lastly is going to be positive through this time period. The EPO and PNA being in favorable conditions along with the negative AO should balance out the effects of the positive NAO. Another major feature resulting in this highly cold period coming up is the dramatic shift of the MJO. Over much of December it was in phase 4 trending to phase 5, which favors more of a midwest and western US trough axis resulting in inland runners. Now finally we have moved into phase 6 and possibly into phase 7 which is ideal for an east coast trough axis. Something of concern is the La Nina that has developed quite impressively over the central Pacific with temperature anomalies near -1.1degree. Now there has been a few signs of warming waters very gradually surrounding the cold anomaly region. Also I have found from the past that La Ninas typically peak in early winter with a gradual decrease or otherwise known as warming of sea surface temperatures. All ENSO/SO climatic schemes are different and they cannot be put into judgement on further exact forecasts for future, but in this overall pattern the SO is the bust potential.

So now onto global models. They are in fair agreement for a severe arctic blast lasting from midweek next week through at least January 21, nearly a seven day period. H85s are near -20C with even a core of -30C across southern Canada. Surface temperatures likely resulting in negative numbers in some areas and single digits. While this seems extreme, it is all of the models showing this. EURO at times has been even more extreme showing polar vortex over the Great Lakes. This will result in likely a few lake effect snow outbreaks and many clippers. The latest 12z GFS from Wednesday afternoon makes this an evident idea with clippers moving in every few days bringing colder and colder air, snow ratios for some of these events may be near 30:1 across the north. The coldest temperatures look to be in the 10day mean with strong riding on east coast. Also another evident sign of cold air will be the positive anomalies across much of Alaska. Temperatures will be quite bitter for several days with gusty northwest winds under a times tight gradients. This will likely be the coldest period of the winter. Also I apologize for not issuing a January formal outlook, but it does seem like the month will be below normal for average snowfall for all across Pennsylvania. It has already started off very wintry and this is likely to continue. Stay warm all!

Please post storm reports in this blog from across the Northeast during the winter storm...
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"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2008-2009 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- C-1.5inch of snow
Monthly Total- 2.00inches
Seasonal Total- 12.45inches
Winter Weather Advisories- 6
Winter Storm Warnings- 1
Ice Storm Warnings- 1
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Freezing Rain Advisories- 0
Winter Storm Watches- 3

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 14degrees
Lowest Low Temperature- -3degrees
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First Snow - October 29 - Trace
First Snow on Ground - November 18 - Coating
Lake Effect Snow - November 21/22 - 6.00inches
Synoptic Snow - December 16 - 3.5inches
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301. TheRasberryPatch 1:33 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
So out of 70 days we have had some sun for 25? wow, no wonder by this time people are in the doldrums. is that typical you think? don't go back through your books and average it out. just curious. it seems like by mid January we get more dry sunny days and into February before more transition days come in.
also, is there a special book you use to keep track of the weather. before i had weatherlink and vws i used to write observations in a book since 1992 i think. i have the books in a bookshelf and i would just use a notebook size calendar. couldn't find anything for the weather. most of my observations would stop after April though. couldn't get interested in the weather as much when outside and enjoying the weather.
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302. Zachary Labe 1:36 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheRasberryPatch- Ummm... Pretty typical. Though the pattern has been fairly active this winter especially with December reaching such high precipitation for the month. I have been using something called "The Old Farmers Almanac Every Day Weather Journal," but they stopped producing them so now this January I am on the search for a new book.
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303. PalmyraPunishment 1:38 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
hybrid clipper. nice name, nice name. i would have called it the Clipper HD, but thats just me.

nice to see we stand a great chance at a good snowfall that won't be leaving us anytime soon, either. would be nice to build a snowpack to see how close to zero we can get the low temperature on wednesday night/thursday morning.

think snow!
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304. Zachary Labe 1:44 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- Yep, this snow will be around for quite a while. In fact Blue Mountain is still covered in ice from the ice storm. It appears that starting next week will be our best shot at a below zero reading in quite a while.
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305. onoweather 1:48 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
12zNAM has initialized
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306. TheRasberryPatch 1:50 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
it will also be nice to use the sleds for a week or more.
thanks Blizz. it is hard to find those books. maybe old farmers almanac has something on their website.
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307. Zachary Labe 1:50 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
onoweather- Alright, after NAM my snow map section will be out.
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308. PalmyraPunishment 2:25 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
nice snowmap, blizz. 4-8/5-9 seems to be a pretty safe assessment for this area, i won't be shocked to see some locales hit 9 or maybe 10 inches
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309. Zachary Labe 2:26 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- I still have that nagging fear about mixing. But anyways that is my snow map. Just remember, if some how this busts due to sleet, remember I mentioned this hahaha.
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310. onoweather 2:30 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
yeah that 0 line is to close for comfort, a little wobble north and we get sleet. That will also cut the snow ratio down with 850 temps close to 0 right?
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311. Zachary Labe 2:31 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
onoweather- Yep. Currently EURO is only model I believe which shows that problem.
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312. Zachary Labe 2:45 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
*Snow map and selected city accumulations have been posted.
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313. TheDawnAwakening 2:51 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
My snowmap will be posted after the 12z GFS run makes it into this timeframe. NAM is showing .75 to 1" of QPF for a large portion of Southern New England south of the MA pike.
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314. Zachary Labe 2:52 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- That is likely overdone as all of the snow events up that way have been overdone with QPF on the models.
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315. TheDawnAwakening 2:53 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Blizzard can you do a Hyannis, MA text too?
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316. Zachary Labe 2:55 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- There you go.
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317. Mason803 2:58 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
map looks good. I like how you pulled the higher accumulations down through western adams/eastern franklin. hope these amounts verify. that would be just stellar.
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318. Zachary Labe 3:00 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Mason803- South mountain has some very high elevations, I would go with a 4-7inch down there.
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319. TheRasberryPatch 3:04 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
i am surprised hagerstown will turn over. they seem to be a bit colder for maryland than most places around the metro area. not that hagerstown is that close to metro baltimore/dc.
what do you foresee for the I-95 corridor from baltimore beltway to philly?
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320. Mason803 3:06 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
you're right I know of 2 peaks over 2000'. One is the big flat of adams and the other is snowy mt. just east of the town of south mountain in franklin. i've got the green ridge behind my house around 1850'. they still have over .25" of glaze from the last event. Could be trouble with added weight from more wintry weather>>
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321. Zachary Labe 3:13 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheRasberryPatch- When systems run west to east so does the 850s. So really latitude is what is what makes a difference in this type of scenario. I-95 should see some nuisance 1-3inches before sleet and rain mixes in.

Mason803- Many of the mountains are near 1840ft. Blue Mountain up here also has about .25inches of freezing rain.
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322. HeavySnow 3:30 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
I guess the HSM isn't going to verify. Arrrrgh!
Oh well, I hope it somehow still wobbles south but it seems like I'm running out of time for that scenario. Enjoy the snow folks in PA and north. I was born in Chambersburg, PA and still have a lot of family there. But they won't send me any of their snow either.
Thanks for including DC on your city list Blizz.
I want change!
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323. Zachary Labe 3:34 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
HeavySnow- Sure thing. Chambersburg is a nice area, one of the largest growing regions in Pennsylvania. The only model really showing any snow in DC are the GFS ensemble models, but they have a cold bias.
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324. TheDawnAwakening 3:35 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Thanks Blizzard seems reasonable given the 5-10" range from the NWS with 7.2" of snow forecasted by Taunton, MA NWS. Blizzard why does PA get a lot of snow? higher snow ratios?
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325. shipweather 3:36 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Oh your snow map is more than NWS is calling for this time, interesting. Can we get an update later about your concern for mixing?
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326. Zachary Labe 3:40 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- Pennsylvania has many things going for it, high snow ratios, colder surface temperatures, orographic lift from mountains, higher elevation, and QPF values similar to rest of Northeast.

shipweather- I will have a whole storm discussion later this afternoon after 18z models that will discuss everything.

12z GFS coming in a few miles south of 6z.
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327. shipweather 3:41 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
I am going to predict sometime this afternoon, here in Berks we'll change to a winter weather advisory. But we'll see about Central PA, which is where I am traveling tomorrow.
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328. Zachary Labe 3:42 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
shipweather- A warning a still definitely possible, although Mt. Holly is hinting at more of an advisory.
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329. HeavySnow 3:43 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Thanks Blizz, now bring it even further south, I need all the help I can get.
Gotta work now. Crud!
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330. Zachary Labe 3:50 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
HeavySnow- Well 850s warmed a bit, lol. Have a great day!
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331. Mason803 4:03 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
temps seem to be running a category below current forecast. most sites are creepy up very slowly and some have remained the same since last hour. i've been 27 for the last 2 hours along with khgr.
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332. Zachary Labe 4:52 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Mason803- Been about 32degrees here all morning.
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333. TheDawnAwakening 4:59 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
The temps have reached 28F today and not above it. Tell me what you think with my snowfall maps?
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334. shipweather 5:03 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
29 here, has been scattered clouds, but mostly sunny. winds are keeping things brisk.
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335. onoweather 5:04 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
i warmed up a whole 4 degrees today! 30degrees out
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336. TheRasberryPatch 5:35 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
after a low of 26F i have creeeped up to 31F. winds are out of the NW, breezy.
barometer is steady.

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337. PalmyraPunishment 5:36 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
still cold out there with the winds. any changes in the model runs of late?
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338. Zachary Labe 5:37 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Winter Storm Warnings now out for western Pennsylvania and northwestern Pennsylvania with Erie and Pittsburgh included.
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339. TheRasberryPatch 5:38 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
i see the storm is still back in the midwest. has it slowed down?
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340. Zachary Labe 5:38 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- Not really, the model I have been waiting for all day is coming out shortly so I will have an update on that. It is the high resolution HIRES NMM.
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341. Zachary Labe 5:39 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
TheRasberryPatch- Models seem to show that it slowed, but already light snow is working into Ohio.
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342. PalmyraPunishment 5:43 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
awesome, good to know blizz

today is a day im glad you're here. just had an office party and had to listen to 10+ people scoff in doubt when the radio gave their forcast. "it's not gonna snow..." amazing lol
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343. TheRasberryPatch 5:44 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
are we looking at a low transferring its energy to one off the coast, then? i see the snow on the radar at the top of your page, but the Low is not being shown on the radar.
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344. Zachary Labe 5:48 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- My concern remains sleet. If you read the warning for Pittsburgh metro area, that is similar to how I would word ours. O and do not be surprised to see an advisory for our area, I think they are going to post one. I still think a warning is necessary for Cumberland, Perry, Dauphin, Franklin, and Lebanon Counties.

TheRasberryPatch- A system develops over Tennessee Valley and merges with clipper in a way. Then the low forms and tracks on or a bit south of Mason-Dixon line.
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345. PalmyraPunishment 5:52 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
advisory as in WWA? a downgrade?

i can see that -- espcially if sleet mixing becomes a concern.

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346. Zachary Labe 5:54 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- They always downgrade their southern counties. Sleet still remains a concern, but even if it mixes in a lot I think accumulations for our areas would still be at least 4inches.
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347. PalmyraPunishment 5:58 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
i just find it bunk that they issue a watch, and then downgrade to an advisory. makes zero sense -- and again, is irresponsible in my opinion. whatever lol

4 or more sounds good to me. lol
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348. Zachary Labe 5:59 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- New worries sort of similar to what happened with first part of ice storm. Latest models are keeping a sheild of precipitation just to our north...
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349. Zachary Labe 6:01 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
12z EURO out and farther south now with low tracking along Mason-Dixon line. We now have model agreement, but I have major concerns about a southern Pennsylvania dryslot.
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350. PalmyraPunishment 6:03 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
Quoting Blizzard92:
12z EURO out and farther south now with low tracking along Mason-Dixon line. We now have model agreement, but I have major concerns about a southern Pennsylvania dryslot.


hahahaha. if it's not one thing, it's another lol.
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351. shipweather 6:04 PM GMT on January 09, 2009    
wow! that's ugly. Where did that come from.....
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