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Warmth returns followed by a major storm down the road?
Posted by: Zachary Labe, 10:51 PM GMT on December 26, 2008 +0
"Afternoon Thoughts" (Updated 12/26)
Good Friday evening!!! I want to first start off and hope that everyone had a wonderful Christmas! It is amazing that Christmas is already over, wow what a rush. Now onto New Years before the long, cold, and boring months of January, February, and March. This blog covers the period of weather from Friday the 27th to Thursday the 1st. Then towards the weekend a potential winter storm makes it's mark towards the Northeast. During early next week around the 30th or 31st I will likely issue my January Outlook with also my December verification.

So now we enter the new year. 2008 has come and gone with global impacts of a great variety. It is time for once again those New Year's resolutions, that we all know are never followed through, hehe. But in all honesty as many of us look forward to the new year, others sit depressingly looking at what horrible could go wrong with the new year. Truthfully the new year does mark a new you. It is a new beginning full of new opportunities. As the countdown at Time Square begins, let that mark the beginning of a fantastic tomorrow! Weatherwise, there are a many of things to look forward to. More thunderstorms, blinding snowstorms, and flooding rains are likely eyeing up our region as they always do. After coming off of what really was a quiet summer in terms of severe weather, it seems that once again the threat is there. As a whole Harrisburg is really not known for it's severe weather. While events occur such as the Flood of 72, Blizzard of 96, Tornado Outbreak of 04, and Hurricane Isabel of 02, but still these events are found far between each other by nearly every five years. Many parts of the country deal with blizzards, tornadoes, and hurricane threats every single year and what seems to be every single month during some seasons. But the one remarkable thing I can say about Pennsylvania weather is the variety and seasonability that we are so lucky to experience. You can find every type of weather in the state nearly every year in every season. So what will the weather bring our area for this coming year? No answer can be given, but I know for sure that I will be here to track it for another year and I look forward to everyone else here along with me tracking these systems. Have a wonderful New Years!!!

"Current Surface Plot"

(Courtesy of HPC)

"Regional Radar"

(Courtesy of Wunderground)

"Regional Advisories"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Forecast Discussion" (Updated 12/26)
High pressure located over northern Maine and the Canadian Maritimes will be departing to the east giving way to a strong southwesterly flow with rising heights. Warm air floods in across the Northeast by late Friday night with any shallow cold air being displaced now farther to the north. QPF initially will be very light generally a few hundredths of an inch. Then by Saturday for the first time in quite a while H85s will rise above 10C statewide across Pennsylvania as southwesterly flow takes over with winds occasionally breezy on the ridgetops in the Laurel Highlands. 2m surface temperatures look to rise near 60degrees across southern Pennsylvania with 50s elsewhere. Snow pack will greatly melt. Developing low pressure in Midwest will head up through the Great Lakes as a 996mb low and bring a cold front eastward across the Ohio Valley towards Tuesday. Flow generally just brings marginally light precipitation for much of Saturday with QPF below .1inches for the most part. Cold front comes crashing through for Sunday with a cold front generally drying up as it heads eastward. H85s will dive from 10C to about 0C in about a 12hour period. Other than that front generally has weak dynamics with little QPF up to .25inches as a max. 500mb jet develops a more zonal flow to start the next week with a Pacific orientation airmass keeping temperatures around normal values. Arctic air will be hard to find anywhere across the CONUS. A ripple in the northern jet drops south out of Canada with maximum vortex lifting across New York State. Dynamics are lacking so shortwave will only generally bring reinforcing cooler air with H85s dropping to -10C across parts of northern Pennsylvania. Another disturbance drops down from Canada towards Wednesday with a bit better dynamics and a colder origin of air. Light warm air advection snows may break out across the State, but with QPF below .1inch, there will be little to no snow accumulation. Colder airmass moves in with H85s near -10C statewide. High pressure builds over region for Thursday and Friday with below normal temperatures setting the stage for a potential weekend storm.

"Regional Satellite"

(Courtesy of Penn State Meteo.)

"Current Water Vapor Loop"

(Courtesy of Penn State Meteo.)

"Weekly Forecasts" (Updated 12/26)
Saturday- Statewide it appears Saturday will be a dreary day with overcast skies and occasional drizzle. But I can report that warm temperatures will be found across the region under a strong southwesterly flow. On occasion breezy conditions with gusts up to 25mph may occur on the southern facing ridgetops. Some light rain will occur at times throughout the day with a few areas of freezing drizzle across the higher elevations. Precipitation amounts though will generally be under a tenth of an inch and temperatures will be above freezing by early morning. Highs will be very mild approaching some records in a few areas with highs in the 60s across southern Pennsylvania south of the turnpike, highs in the 50s should be expected elsewhere. Saturday night it appears drizzle and fog will be found statewide with locally dense fog across the areas with remaining snow cover. Rainfall amounts will be less than a few hundredths of an inch. Lows Saturday night will be extremely mild and near 20-25degrees above normal with them in the low 50s across southern Pennsylvania and 40s elsewhere.

Sunday- The cold front will be approaching from the west in the Ohio Valley sparking some rain showers statewide. High temperatures will once again be well above normal with them similar to Saturday highs likely in the 60s in the south and upper 50s elsewhere. I would also watch for a few areas of thunder to develop as some unstable air works into western areas and all southern areas. Rainfall amounts will generally be up to .25inches with lesser amounts towards eastern Pennsylvania as the cold front dries up. Sunday night the front will pass through the rest of the state with rain showers coming to an end. A few snow showers may linger up in northwestern Pennsylvania but little to no accumulation is expected. Lows will fall steadily through the night back to seasonal lows in the mid 20s across the northwest to low 30s across the far southeast. Some gusty winds will be found in the early evening behind the cold front gusting up to 40mph at times, but overall impacts should be below advisory criteria.

Monday- High pressure remains parked over region with sunshine prevailing statewide. A few snow showers in the morning are possible, though, across the Erie Plateau with snow accumulations up to a half an inch possible. Temperatures will be much cooler than they were Sunday, but still above normal as to seasonal values. Highs will be in the upper 40s across southern areas with low 40s across northern areas. Monday night will feature clear skies and calm winds giving way to radiational cooling. Still with dewpoints relatively high, I find it hard to see temperatures getting very cold. Lows will drop into the low to mid 20s across northern valleys with upper 20s found elsewhere.

Tuesday- A dry disturbance drops down from Canada on Tuesday giving way to sunny skies to start the day followed by afternoon clouds. Little in the way of precipitation is expected other than a few flurries across the northwest. Highs will be cooler back down towards more seasonable readings with highs in the low to mid 30s across the north and low 40s across the south. Winds will turn out of the northwest bringing in colder air for Tuesday evening. Tuesday night will feature cloudy skies across the state under a northwest flow. Lows will be back to normal lows will lows in the teens across the northern mountains to mid 20s across southern areas.

Wednesday- An Alberta Clipper along with a cold front works its way down into the region with the center staying to our north in New York State. None the less some light snows will break out across the state with even light rain mixing in for southern areas. Generally snow accumulations will be less than one inch and rain totals will only wet the ground and be reported as a trace. Cloudy skies will prevail under a stratus deck. Flow will turn more northwesterly as weak cold front passes through with another slightly colder airmass. A few lake effect snow showers look to form across northwestern areas with accumulations up to one inch in the snowbelts. Wednesday night high pressure moves into control ending any residual snow showers giving way to clear skies with light northwesterly winds preventing temperatures from dropping to low. Still low temperatures will drop in the teens across the north to mid 20s across the south.

Thurday- High pressure remains in control statewide with sunshine prevailing. Temperatures will average a degree or two below normal with highs in the upper 20s across the north to upper 30s across southern areas. Winds will be light out of the west. Thursday night clear skies with light winds and low dewpoints will give way to great radiational cooling conditions. Lows will drop into the low to mid teens across the north with upper teens to low 20s across the south. A few clouds may approach the region from the south ahead of the next storm system.

"Current River Ice Reports and Ski Conditions" (Updated 12/26)
Interestingly enough the other day the Susquehanna River had moderate ice traveling down it with it in the form of sheet ice. Climatology suggests this is a relative rarity for December standards for southern branches of the river to have moderate icing. There was also a river-water rescue the other day during all of the ice jams as a boats motor was reported stalled out near Rockville. Fortunately everything turned out ok. But this is a constant reminder that waterways in the winter time are very dangerous. With the coming warm spell, any waterway with ice still on it will melt so please take caution around the melting ice even across northern areas. Ice fishing does not look possible this coming week. Colder weather does move in for the end of next week. As for ski reports, ski conditions will develop to the poor level for this weekend as rain and very mild temperatures overtake the region. There will be significant snow melt across all ski resorts. Towards the start of next week conditions will improve and snow making will be allowed to resume. Natural snow looks to be hard to come by this week with only about one inch of natural snow found up near Erie and Bradford, maybe a dusting across the Laurel Highlands. Chances of snow do increase though towards next weekend. Looking at the pattern down the road it does seem relatively stormy so period of snow will be possible in early January. Overall ski conditions will remain from poor to slow throughout the entire week. Temperatures will only fall below freezing during the night time low temperatures. Thursday will be the coldest day of this term.

-Link to official reports page from NWS...Link.
-Link to local ski resort snow conditions...Link.

"Current Northeast Snow Depth and Northeast Windchills"

(Courtesy of Wunderground)

"Lake Effect Snow Conditions" (Updated 12/26)
Little to no chances of lake effect snow this week as flow generally remains more zonal and westerly. Water temperatures generally remain in the 30s across Lake Erie with some near 32degree readings towards Toledo, Ohio in the more shallow part of the lake. Ice reports remain to be very few across the Lake Erie region. So it seems that we still have a while to go before the lake effect machine cuts off for Pennsylvania. Best chances of any lake effect precipitation will be late Sunday into early Monday after cold front moves through region. But airmass in generally Pacific with H85s only near -5C, which is not cold for this time of year nor unstable enough for widespread snow bands. Winds will also be light near the 270 trajectory out of the due west. But none the less a few scattered snow showers may occur in Erie County with a coating to one inch in a few isolated spots, nothing more than a mere nuisance for that region. Then high pressure moves in for midweek before a disturbance moves down for Tuesday into Wednesday in the form of a clipper. Flow turns a bit west-northwest along with colder air near -10C 850s. But high pressure quickly moves in region by Wednesday night. Still a few cells of lake effect snow showers may form in some northwestern snowbelts dropping up to 1inch of snow maybe 1-3inches on the Erie County Plateau. Towards weekend high pressure remains in control. So all in all very few lake effect snow concerns to worry ourselves with as northern jet stream remains fairly stable unlike the past week or two. Much of the ice along with the lake shores and freezing mist will generally melt in the next few days as a two-day mild spell moves over the region. Cold air will be hard to come by, but that goes by your definition of cold. Highs will be in the 30s across the snowbelts, but to me that is not cold for this time of year for what it could be with highs in the teens and twenties. Seasonable seems to rule the roost the week.

"Current Lake Erie Wind Direction and Speed"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Current Lake Erie Water Temperature"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Long Term Outlook" (Updated 12/26)
Very difficult long term section for forecasting as model variables have been difficult in showing trends. January is looking highly volatile in terms of temperature trends. It does appear a cold regime will make its way back towards the eastern CONUS, but for how long. The NAO is showing signs of heading sharply negative along with some favorable Greenland Blocking. GFS is been highly advertising building heights over Greenland with a ridge, but during the past few model runs it has been backing off with its solution. The Pacific remains the volatile region which could offset the primed Atlantic. PNA index is in question whether it will rise positive, but GFS ensembles insist it will towards early to mid January. MJO phase also appears to be shifting during the next 20 days to a more favorable trough phase for the east coast of either phases 5 or 6. The AO index is also headed highly negative during the early January time period. Now what has me worried about the pattern is the considerable cooling of the sea surface temperatures in the Central Pacific putting us back into a La Nina state. Now I was forecasting a return of a weak La Nina status, but it does seem the cooling is a bit more than first anticipated by many including the Climate Prediction Center. The implications of this Nina development may really cause some issues down the road with southeast ridge development and western troughs. Still though, those impacts remain to be seen. Now back to the closer long term. A storm is progged across somewhere east of the Mississippi towards the weekend. Greenland blocking and a negative NAO look to remain in place along with a high over southern Canada. Typically that would mean east coast snowstorm, but latest models runs are increasingly showing an inland cutter. Still though I think it is just part of the wild swings in the models especially this far out. A miller B solution looks very possible with the primary weakening near the Ohio River giving way to secondary developing over northern North Carolina and heading up coast delivering a nice ol' winter storm, but confidence remains slim with any solution at this point. EURO is showing wild shifts with lows by near 100mi for each run. GFS had been consistently showing a coastal low solution, but now the last two runs are towards inland runner. It seems to me that a more coastal solution makes more sense as long as the Pacific cooperates. In any case a major winter will likely impact parts of the Northeast for next week. I will have model run updates throughout the coming week.

"Current NAO and PNA Predictions"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Monthly Outlook" (December)
So here it is the first month of the meteorological winter, and quite hard to believe at that. It feels like we were just watching severe thunderstorms role across the heartland and hurricanes roar across the Gulf of Mexico. But now it is our season for extreme weather; winter storms. Looking back at my November Outlook I called for normal to below normal temperatures with normal precipitation. That is very close to what actually happened and with the temperature department I nailed it spot on. Temperatures for the first half of the month were well above normal and by the second week temperatures plummeted to the coldest temperatures we had seen in November in quite a long time. Temperatures average below normal by a few degrees, but it could have been an even bigger anomaly if we had not seen that very warm outbreak in the beginning of the month. Snowfall I called for normal snowfall to above normal snowfall, and many areas across Pennsylvania are running 150% above normal in the snowfall department. The only area really lacking snowfall is in the Lehigh Valley where they have only seen a few coatings, even the Philadelphia snow season is starting off with a bang. Some areas in the snow belts near Erie have seen some of the snowiest weather in November in decades. Precipitation as a whole though was slightly below normal to normal in most areas. It seems we have been caught in a somewhat drier pattern lately in comparison to other years, still though we are far from a drought. So for December here is what I see…

Temperature- For quite a few months as far back as August, December was looking to be an extremely cold weather in comparison to normal. Now as we approach December, very little has changed in that regard. I am forecasting below normal temperatures across the entire state. Now the anomaly will not be extreme, but it will be enough for a couple of degrees below normal as a whole. I am expecting very cold weather for first week or two of December, before a more rollercoaster type pattern with cold followed by warmth. Then for the end of the month I think the coldest air moves over the Northeast with the coldest weather possibly of the whole winter. There are teleconnective signs of a decent negative NAO that would favor deep troughs over the east coast. But there are a few discrepancies with the models with some favoring a western Atlantic ridge and warm air up the east coast. But I still think the models think we are in a stronger La Nina pattern than we actually are. Just recently the climate CFS model which was forecasting a strong La Nina again, has now backed up to a weak La Nina which is more reasonable. I must also mention that now the CFS shows below normal temperatures across Pennsylvania for every meteorological winter month. All in all I think December will favor below normal temperatures with even some more favorable blocking scenarios towards mid to late month.

Precipitation- Lately we seem to have been in a drier spell, so I find it hard to forecast above normal precipitation. So my forecast calls for normal precipitation with above normal snowfall. Looking at all of the global models, the ECMWF, GGEM, and GFS they all forecast a much stormier weather pattern starting the second week in December and lasting for quite a while. The northern jet seems to become the focal point of all the weather with storms even coming into the northern US Pacific coast and traveling transient across the nation and out to sea in the Middle Atlantic. At times there may be phasing between the northern and southern jet, which could lead to some strong winter storms across the central and eastern US. I also believe the pattern favors many Alberta clippers in which some of them could even be Saskatchewan screamers. Lake effect machine may end towards later in the month as Lake Erie may freeze over this winter, especially with how the pattern is looking. Warm air advection snows are also possible.

"Temperature and Precipitation Outlooks from Climate Prediction Center for next 30 days"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

-Winter 2008-2009 forecast... Link.
-Winter 2008-2009 forecast update... Link.

"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2008-2009 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- 0.00inches
Monthly Total- 4.35inches
Seasonal Total- 10.45inches
Winter Weather Advisories- 5
Winter Storm Warnings- 0
Heavy Snow Warnings- 0
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Snow Advisories- 0
Winter Storm Watches- 1

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 23
Lowest Low Temperature- 10
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First Snow - October 29 - Trace
First Snow on Ground - November 18 - Coating
Lake Effect Snow - November 21/22 - 6.00inches
Synoptic Snow - December 16 - 3.5inches
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1. TheRasberryPatch 12:21 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Great blog, Blizz. What a great outlook on life you have on the upcoming New Year.

It appears like an average week in between Christmas and New Years weatherwise for the area. Again, in my lifetime I don't recall much going on this week that stands out. It is usually brown and can be extremely cold or warm or a big rainstorm on New Years Eve. I remember on New Years Eve where the temp was close to zero, but most years it was average temps with no snow or lots of rain. Just the way our region is when it comes to the weather.

so nice to have your blog to participate. Happy New Year to you.
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2. shipweather 12:31 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
hmm not sure i found any good news in terms of snowy winter in anything there.....
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3. hurigo 12:41 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Great New Blog Blizz,
I love how you added in a bit of philosophizing with your prophesizing. See even a great scientist is in touch with the human (he)arts. (that doesn't looks right, I meant it to show arts and hearts).

I see the wide state of PA has some blue and pink meaning ice and ?snow.
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4. Zachary Labe 1:43 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- Good evening!!! Thanks! Todays late afternoon and evening model runs reduced confidence even more for this weekend. Now they show a warm storm over our area, so any scenario is plausible. O gosh, New Years seems to bring some of the warmest weather of winter recently to our region in the last few winters. Remember the toasty record high of 64 in 2005. The last few New Years have been very warm.

shipweather- Good evening!!! Yep, it is a very snowless week. This next weekend storm is very interesting though and there is a boatload of potential. Just look at the 0z and 6z GFS from this morning.

hurigo- Good evening!!! Thanks! A bit more nasty freezing rain in some areas. 34degrees here right now, so hopefully it does not drop more for spotty freezing drizzle.
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5. Zachary Labe 3:28 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Down to 32degrees here; I hope it does not drop more for freeezing rain, yuck.
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6. TheRasberryPatch 3:39 AM GMT on December 27, 2008    
it is 33 degrees here and raining pretty good. it looks like this month will be a usual wet month. 6.34" so far for the month.
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7. Zachary Labe 1:47 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- There was a bit of glaze late last night, but it melted. 33degrees now. It has been an extremely wet month with some areas reporting over 7inches of rain.
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8. TheRasberryPatch 2:40 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Blizz, the low stayed at 33 degrees here with 0.09" of rain.
it appears that even though this year December is very wet, most December's I would guess are wet. I am not familiar with the average rainfall for December, but i can only recall a wet month.
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9. TheRasberryPatch 2:43 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
I see we aren't the only ones confind to the warm weather. At Notre Dame they are 50F and have a flood watch.
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10. Zachary Labe 2:44 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- Average precipitation is 3.22inches, which sort of seems low. December in a way is similar to months such as March in April as it is a pattern changing month just like April is a pattern changing month. Those months tend to feature an active storm jet.
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11. shoreacres 2:53 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Bliz ~ Love your entry about the New Year. The truth is I prepare for the New Year with as much energy as I do Christmas, except all the preps for the New Year are for ME! It's a time for evaluating, looking forward - all those good things!

Typing as fast as my little fingers can this morning. They say (maybe) strong thunderstorms this afternoon, so I want to get my chitchat here done before I have to shut down the computer. I do hope we get some good rain, though I'm not looking forward to storms. They're getting hammered around Dallas now, so our turn may come.

Have a great day and a terrific weekend - and enjoy looking forward to that New Year!
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12. Zachary Labe 2:58 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
shoreacres- Thanks! Time for the classic pork and sauekraut for New Year's Day; Pennsylvania Dutch tradition for good luck. It appears that the severe weather should be confined just to your north, but there does appear to be a good chance of regular thunderstorms down your way. Have a great day!


***Update on morning models. 0z EURO showing a late developing low scraping eastern Pennsylvania with some snow. Overall solution does not seem likely as low should deepen earlier. GFS has come much farther east in 6z run and now brings snow to rain to snow type solution for many areas. Again synoptics just do not seem to favor the 6z GFS solution. Models are very inconsistent with this storm, and I am not buying any of their solutions. One interesting development with the 0z and 6z GFS is the development of an extreme arctic blast towards midmonth, that will be something to monitor.
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13. Zachary Labe 3:06 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
***I would like to report something very unusual. An earthquake occured this morning in Lancaster County. That is after a series of small quakes occured in York County last month. This is not just little trembles that aren't being felt. These little quakes are being felt knocking items off of shelves. Strange... 3.3 magnitude.

Link to news story... Link.
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14. wxgeek723 4:53 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Hey blizz! I find that weird...and worse yet I am going to Lancaster today to see the Rennasaince Fair. Hopefully nothing happens. I hope you had a great Christmas; I should be around the blogs tonight. Have a great day.
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15. TheRasberryPatch 6:16 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
I didn't feel anything up in my area, which I am not terribly far from the center. 20 miles or so if that.

It is a damp and biting day. It doesn't look like temps in 50s today.
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16. TheRasberryPatch 6:20 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Oh BTW - check out the link and if we get a decent day and dusk to evening we can check out the night sky. it looks like it will be a welcome sight to see if we get the chance.
Link
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17. Snowlover2010 7:40 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Hey bliz. I live 3 miles from the epicenter of the earthquake yesterday, so I felt the quake. Many people called police(over 200 just in Lititz area where I live) because it sounded and felt like an explosion, Here is my little story:
Last night I was watching tv and all the sudden felt everything start shaking like crazy and heard some loud noise. I thought there was an explosion and was very worried. My dad looked around and saw nothing telling me it was probably thunder. I told him there were no storms in the area and there was no way it was thunder. To make a long story short I woke up today and found out it was a 3.4Magnitude earthquake. It gave me quite a shock especially since I never remeber one this bad. Well bak to the storm.
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18. Snowlover2010 7:44 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Also I found interesting that wgals other map shows a spot north of Harrisburg feeling the quake more than I did here. Does not seem possible.
Link
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19. Zachary Labe 8:00 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
wxgeek723- Have fun, looks like much of this region of Pennsylvania is fogged in and very chilly, 38degrees here.

TheRasberryPatch- Cloudy and foggy today. Looking at that impact map Snowlover2010 posted, it appears that you would have felt something.

Snowlover2010- Wow, interesting stuff. Thanks for posting your story.


***For those looking for snow, there is an increasing chance for New Years Eve of a clipper bringing light snow across the region. Something else to monitor this week.
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20. Zachary Labe 8:23 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
State College feeling for a winter storm this weekend for much of Pennsylvania. Here is the Harrisburg forecast...

Friday: A chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 35. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Friday Night: A chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 23. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Saturday: A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 34. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
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21. TheRasberryPatch 9:38 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
looks like a bust on the forecast from the NWS for today. where is the fog coming from? any ideas? just wondering what the thoughts are on what is over the area.

you said it Blizz. they are feeling for a storm. i guess we will find out when the week goes on and we get to the day.
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22. Zachary Labe 9:40 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- Only 38degrees here. Well here is what is happening. Warm air aloft is rushing thousands of feet about us with 850s near +10C. Meanwhile the cold ground temperatures created a sharp contrast. Then combine that with a wedge of cold air damming and a moist southeasterly flow of the Atlantic and you have the classic Lower Susquehanna Valley marine layer. Fog could limit visibilities to a few yards later tonight and should lift sometime tomorrow morning. The scenario really is pretty common during the winter time.
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23. weathergeek5 9:54 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
Here temps are near 50 with a dense fog advisory.
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24. Zachary Labe 9:56 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
weathergeek5- Quite a temperature contrast across the region. The lower susquehanna valley always has the coldest temperatures in Pennsylvania during these types of scenarios. Cold air damming sitations always hold tons of ground here, much more than forecasters ever mention.
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25. Zachary Labe 10:27 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
18z GFS finally coming on to my ideas for next weekend. We have got a major storm to track next early weekend...

988mb Miller B winter storm off of Long Island. Verbatum this model run, the I-81 corridor does extremely well from the Mason-Dixon line up through northeastern Pennsylvania.
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26. weathergeek5 10:36 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
I am too far south right?
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27. Zachary Labe 10:39 PM GMT on December 27, 2008    
weathergeek5- Too early to say, but my early thoughts threaten your area for at least a little snow. It is definitely enough of a threat to monitor each model run.
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28. TheRasberryPatch 12:20 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
wow, is it froggy outside. just been out around my little town and thankfully, i don't have to travel very far and the roads are 35 mph. can't see much.
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29. hurigo 12:23 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
It was foggy here this morning. It got foggier as the morning went on. Turned out to be a beautiful day though. I AM SO EXCITED. My sister is coming to visit!
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30. Zachary Labe 1:51 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- Yea, I just got back from out towards Hummelstown and it was extremely foggy out that way.

hurigo- It should get very warm out your way tomorrow.
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31. hurigo 1:53 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Perfect Blizz,
My sister wants to put her toes in the sand.
I am so excited I don't know what to do with myself. JOY TO THE WORLD
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32. Zachary Labe 1:54 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
hurigo- There is a chance of showers and thunderstorms later in the day though, but at least it will be in the mid 70s.
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33. hurigo 1:55 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Thanks, Blizz, I noticed that.
Now how am I going to force my sister to get up at 8 in the morning so we can get to the beach and back before the storms! What a great problem to have.
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34. wxgeek723 1:59 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Just got back from my visit to Lancaster. I went to see Charles Dickens's house. It was actually pretty funny. No earthquakes but that dense fog out there was ridiculous.
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35. Zachary Labe 2:00 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
hurigo- Lol, I know many of us northerners would gladly trade that for a day in the winter.
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36. Zachary Labe 2:01 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
wxgeek723- I saw that performance a few years ago out there! Fog is horrible and really delaying our warmth.
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37. weathergeek5 2:24 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
The temp outside was in the upper forties then fell to 41 degrees and went back up to 43 degrees. Tomorrow it is supposed to be around 60 here before the front moves through.
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38. Zachary Labe 2:37 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
weathergeek5- Southwesterlys should score out this cooler air bringing in warmer air right before the frontal passage.
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39. TheRasberryPatch 2:43 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
good evening. hurigo has a nice problem. this time of the year we would gladly have a 70 degree day. not that i want it the rest of the winter.
sounds like fun to go to that presentation wx. i might need to check it out when the kids get older or something like that.
so will this frog blow off tomorrow, blizz? near hummelstown? maybe next time you get that close we can sit back drink a beer and watch the steelers or psu lose in football. hahaha
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40. Zachary Labe 2:50 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
TheRasberryPatch- I hope this fog blows off by early to mid morning, but with the inversion over our region, I would not be surprised to see it take a bit longer. Once inversion breaks temperatures should soar before front crashes through.
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41. weathergeek5 2:54 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
When is the front supposed to come through. I am thinking of wearing shorts to the gym.
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42. TheDawnAwakening 3:04 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Highs will reach 58F tomorrow. Fog is here this evening and is quite thick. 18z GFS favors a coastal storm but is still a good 50 to 100 miles too far west.
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43. Zachary Labe 3:17 AM GMT on December 28, 2008    
weathergeek5- Looks to plow through your area by mid to late afternoon.

TheDawnAwakening- Yep too far west for your area for snow. I would also be watching the clipper up your way New Years Eve and maybe development of norlun trough.
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44. Zachary Labe 1:38 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Looks like fog has cleared across region. 47degrees here.
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45. weathergeek5 1:48 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
It is 60 here. Quite a temp contrast!!
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46. Zachary Labe 2:54 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
weathergeek5- Just shot upto 56degrees here!
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47. Zachary Labe 3:18 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Front moving through west-central Pennsylvania. Look at the temperature difference in one hour for Erie, PA...

8am...Light Rain Fog/Mist and Windy 41

7am...Mostly Cloudy and Windy 65
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48. weathergeek5 3:40 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
wow that is a quick rise in temps!
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49. TheRasberryPatch 4:02 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
it looks like this front is moving pretty fast.

i am at 62F with the barometer falling rapidly and the winds out of the SSW with a ten min average of 12mph
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50. Zachary Labe 5:11 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Front now moving through central Pennnsylvania.
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51. Zachary Labe 5:42 PM GMT on December 28, 2008    
Well the front just blew through here and dropped the temperature back into the 50s. So much for all of the warmth.
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