Winter storm to open December...

By: Zachary Labe , 2:07 AM GMT on November 29, 2008

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Thoughts on November 30 to December 1 storm...
Complex and messy storm system headed our way as severa lows move up either side of the Appalachians putting all of Pennsylvania in the warm sector. Deep trough moving into the central part of the country along with a weak disturbance dropping out of Canada. H85 temperatures along the gulf coast may even drop to 0C possibly bringing some flurries to parts of the northern deep south. Trough becomes situated across the Ohio Valley and becomes negatively tilted allowing a low pressure from the disturbance out of Canada to be the primary low and head up through western Ohio. A secondary low appears to form just inland across the Outerbanks on up through the Delmarva. Surging high PWATs from the Gulf will bring widespread moisture aloft to areas from the Ohio Valley eastward. High pressure moving out of northern New England will move eastward across the north Atlantic shipping lanes. Cold air will begin to shift northward as precipitation moves in. Warm air advection will allow slowly rising temperatures during non-diurnal hours as the low pressure to the west allows temperatures aloft to surge above 0C in the 850 layer. The inland coastal low will also drag along a warm front that will cause very mild air along the coastline. Thunderstorms cannot be ruled out for some locations as there is a bit of instability aloft towards the coastal plains. As upper level low to west begins to move across Lake Erie the heaviest precipitation should occur across Pennsylvania as coastal low will align right along I-95. Looking at bufkit plumes it appears most of the precipitation will be rain across Pennsylvania during this time as cold air damming will be limited. In situations like this cold air damming is usually quite common as Pennsylvania is stuck in between two lows, but really there is no cold air out ahead of this system. The double barrel low will race across the north by Monday allowing the upper level trough to work across the region changing any residual moisture back over to snow showers.

12:00am-2:00am Sunday... Precipitation will be working across the Mason-Dixon line during this time as a wintry mix of snow and sleet. H85 temperatures will be hovering around -1C along with light precipitation, I will add the chance of sleet. Clouds will inhibit any further radiational cooling that has already occured. Mountain locations across southcentral Pennsylvania may see a dusting to heavy coating of snow during this time. Areas across southwestern Pennsylvania will see a quick changeover to rain as temperatures aloft rise above +1C for areas west of the mountains.

2:00am-6:00am... Precipitation will advance northward as the shield of gulf moisture works into the region. Generally precipitation will be snow and sleet as radiational cooling keeps a cold boundary layer and temperatures aloft stay near -1C. Snow accumulations may occur up to 1inch for some central ridge and valley locations. By 6am some of the precipitation across southern Pennsylvania will turn over to a quick period of freezing rain.

6:00am-11:00am... Warm air advection will quickly move into southern areas turning most of the precipitation over to plain rain from the turnpike on southward. Rain amounts in this period will be between a tenth and a quarter of an inch. Areas between the turn pike and I-80 will see a mix of sleet and freezing rain generally turning to plain rain by 11am. Sleet accumulations may occur up to a coating on the grass. Areas north of I-80 will get into the snow action with some of the higher elevations across the northern border counties seeing up to 2inches of snow.

11:00am-4:pm... Rain will be ongoing across areas south of I-80 after the mixed frontend precipitation during the morning. Rainfall amounts will generally be around .25inches with heavier amounts occuring in southeastern Pennsylvania. Temperatures will slowly be on the rise especially towards Philadelphia. Some of the deeper valleys across the ridge and valley region and Laurel Highlands may see some freezing rain with .05inches-.1inches of ice accumulations occuring, but by 4pm that should be all rain. North of I-80 precipitation will turn to a snow and sleet mix with additional snow accumulations near 1inch. Freezing rain will begin to move from south to north causing some ice accretions in the deeper valleys and higher elevations especially in the northern Poconos and northeastern mountains where accumulations up to .15inches could occur causing some issues on the roadways and powerlines.

4pm-12:00am... During this extended period most of the precipitation will turn to plain rain across much of the state with some spotty lingering freezing rain across favored cold air damming locations in northern and northeastern Pennsylvania. Rainfall amounts will be up to .4inches across southern areas especially in the east. Colder air will begin to work into the region later during the night towards early morning Monday across western Pennsylvania. Temperatures though for most areas overnight will slowly rise or hover just above freezing.

12:00am-through rest of day... Cold air aloft and at the surface will move across the state from west to east causing any residual moisture to changeover from rain to snow with even a few leftover flurries working in towards eastern Pennsylvania. Snow accumulations will generally be light. Flow will turn more northwesterly by afternoon causing the start of a lake effect snow outbreak that will last for a few days. See more details in section below labled after the storm.




This is my current rain/snow line...
Rain and snow lines will be hard to predict thanks to the storm situation of wintry mix to rain back to wintry mix type precipitation timing, but these lines are an average of where the differences will occur during the max hour of precipitation.

My rain/mix line is... Washington, PA - Johnstown PA, - Altoona, PA - Lewistown, PA - Lewisburg, PA - Wilkes-Barre, PA - Milford, PA
*Note: rain-south....mix-north

My mix/snow line is... Mercer, PA - Clarion, PA - Du Bois - Jersey Shore, PA - Mansfield, PA - Elmira, NY
*Note: mix-south....snow-north

These lines are estimates for most of the overall precipitation types. Precipitation types can wander several miles on either side of the lines.

Storm Reports...

Storm Impacts...
1. Widespread moderate impact on busiest travel day of year.
2. Potential for freezing rain for elevations above 1800ft.
3. Front-end snows possible for many areas with a 1-3inches.
4. Moderate snow/sleet accumulations across north country.
5. Slippery, wet roads across the eastern parts of PA.

Snow Map...

Ice Map...

Selected City Accumulations for the Northeast...
Hagerstown, MD- Rain likely mixed with sleet early
Baltimore, MD- Rain likely up to .5inches
Washington, DC- Rain likely up to .75inches
Wilmington, DE- Rain likely up to 1inch possibly more
Dover, DE- Rain likely up to 1inch or more
Cape May, NJ- Rain likely between 1-2inches
Trenton, NJ- Rain likely mixed with sleet at times
New York City, NY- Rain likely with sleet on onset
Poughkeepsie, NY- Snow early mixing with sleet then rain, 1-2inches of snow possible
Binghamton, NY- Snow at onset mixing with sleet 1-2inches of snow/sleet, then freezing rain up to .1inches, then rain likely
Albany, NY- Snow at onset likely turning to rain, 1-4inches of snow possible
Hartford, CT- Snow with rain at onset then all rain up to .5inches of rain
Concord, NH- Snow early then turning to rain, 1-2inches of snow possible
Providence, RI- Rain likely up to 1inch possible
Worcester, MA- Rain likely mixed with snow early, up to 1inch of snow possible
Boston, MA- Rain likely up to .75inches
Nantucket, MA- Rain likely up to 1inch
Portland, ME- Rain likely mixed with a bit of sleet at times
Bangor, ME- Mix of snow/sleet at onset then freezing rain then snow, up to 2inches of snow/sleet possible
"Subject to Change"

Model Analysis
Looks as if finally we are getting a model consensus on the double barrel low pressure that is headed across the east. Most models have a general consensus that the primary low will be the on heading up through Ohio and with a slow to form coastal low that will likely head up I-95. With a strong primary to west warm air advection will likely be a plague for snow lovers as latest 12z runs by GFS and NAM show H85s above the 0C threshold for much of Pennsylvania during the height of the precipitation. Latest 0z NMM model simulated radar shows a large plume of heavy precipitation stretched across from the Ohio Valley to the Atlantic coastline...

During this period temperatures are above freezing for most areas. Latest 12z GFS tries to indicate some cold air damming, but with no high pressure to north and no real dense cold air mass, it should not hold for long. Note the lower H85s across central and eastern Pennsylvania...

A problem also with many of the models with this storm was the placement and strength of the incoming trough that will bring very cold air down to as far south as the southeast Gulf Coast. Looking at the 500mb chart on the high resolution NAM this is quite evident with a deep trough that has almost a negative tilt coming into towards the Ohio Valley...

Overall most models are in a pretty decent correspondance for this storm after a rough couple of days. There could be a few surprises as with any storm, but I doubt that any major wintry precipitation will affect Pennsylvania, more nuisance type amounts with generally rain.

After the storm...
This is a very complex scenario for a winter storm, but it seems that a general, and I mean generaly consensus has been reached by the models along with the makings for a forecast. Looking ahead this week it seems to be fairly quiet with temperatures below normal with highs generally in the upper 30s to low 40s across the state with lows in the 20s. The first half of the week there may be some significant lake effect snows under a northwestern trajectory that may cause some heavy accumulations across the nortwest snow belts. Also there will be residual moisture leftover from the double barrel lows that never quite phase so this may cause some upsloping and orographic snow across the Laurel Highlands and central mountains. By Wednesday high pressure will move back into the region causing some more mild conditions with highs getting up into the upper 40s across the far southeast. But a cold front with a much stronger trough will move in for Thursday with some rain/snow showers across mainly northern Pennsylvania. Little to no snow accumulations are expected. Moving towards the weekend things get very interesting in which models have been consistently showing a coastal storm across the region, but the difference from this year's previous storms is the cold air will definitely be around. Teleconnections will favor a coastal storm with a negative NAO that is eastern based and a for once favorable positive PNA. To early to get into details or even remotely excited, but definitely something to watch this week. The CMC, EURO, and GFS have all showed a coastal storm around that time period. My main worry is going to be surpression and that looks entirely possible. Stay tuned for many more details throughout the week.

Please post storm reports in this blog from across the Northeast during the winter storm...
This blog is in progress. Check back soon...

"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2008-2009 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- 0.00inches
Monthly Total- 6.10inches
Seasonal Total- 6.10inches
Winter Weather Advisories- 0
Winter Storm Warnings- 0
Heavy Snow Warnings- 0
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Snow Advisories- 0
Winter Storm Watches- 0

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 31
Lowest Low Temperature- 14
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First Snow - October 29 - Trace
First Snow on Ground - November 18 - Coating
Lake Effect Snow - November 21/22 - 6.00inches

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I think watching the SOI will determine the model trends this winter.

The more positive the SOI (5-7 day running means of 20 or more) there'll likely be some retrogression of the pattern. When the SOI gets into the teens or lower the trough axis will likely be in our general vicinity. If it happens to get near zero or go negative for any length of time we'll likely see ridging build east from the west/plains.
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Blizzard- got .67" from yesterday's event, mostly rain except for .20" of snow/sleet. Interestingly a chance for a thunderstorm here today.
sullivanweather- I am writing up my new blog mentioning this favorable pattern, but still in the back of my mind, the GFS haunts me with these past few runs of the ridge puncturing into the east giving the Great Lakes a favorable storm track.
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It should be cold enough.

The Euro is showing the same thing, almost, so there's consensus there. Both global models show some seriously strong arctic high pressure systems diving down from Canada in week two.

The Euro also shows quite the positive PNA pattern developing. Check out the height 500mb height anomalies in the 8-10 day on the E-wall.

Deep central Pacific trough, strong western US ridge, deep broad central US trough. I would say that pattern is very favorable for cold air outbreaks and storminess.
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sullivanweather- It would be quite something to see. 12z GFS brings the coastal a bit closer in the Saturday-Sunday time frame. It might even give Dean2007 some accumulating snow as the GFS shows it scraping Cape Cod.
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What's pretty amazing is the -25°C air coming over Lake Michigan...
That would equal deltaT's of 32°C!! I'm sure that would produce quite a lake effect event.

Hell, if that wind flow is 270° when it gets here to the eastern lakes that would give the Tug Hill some incredible snowfall rates. Probably 5-6"/hr and 4-6' snow totals.
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sullivanweather- Lol, and did you see that wild arctic outbreak on the 6z GFS with 850s below -20C as far south as the Mason-Dixon line and all the way to the atlantic coast? I believe it was the 276 hour.
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Yup. That clipper system has been in the models for 3 or 4 days now, so it's looking like a decent possibility. The upcoming pattern would favor clipper systems with a large trough developing over the eastern half of the country during the second half of next week lasting into the foreseeable future. I think timing will be the issue rather than whether or not we'll see a clipper. It's almost assured that we get a clipper, the question is now "When does it come". A vague statement like next weekend works fine this far out.

I'm interested in the high parade coming down in week 2 shown in the models. Repetitive 1040mb+ high pressure systems dropping into the north-central states right from the pole is a great recipie for much colder than normal temperatures.

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TheRasberryPatch- Yep, it was a nice soaking rain.

sullivanweather- That's quite a bit of ice. Hopefully we won't be seeing more of that this winter. Did you see some of this morning's GFS ensemble runs? They take the clipper system on Saturday and form a coastal low affecting snow for areas north of Mason-Dixon line. About half of the ensembles show the potential. Something to monitor.

***New blog coming late this afternoon containing the weekly weather forecast and my December outlook.
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Ice from last night, almost 1/2"!

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1.08" of rain for the storm. Thank you we needed a good soaking rain, like i had asked.
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Mason803- Thanks for the report. .80inches is the final total here.
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37F w/ .79in of rain and counting here in orrtanna. another nice batch of precip is now pushing in.
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TheRasberryPatch- It is pouring here with a temperature of 38degrees.
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39F here and now 0.55" of rain for the storm
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Spetrm- Good evening!!! Yep, what a start to the winter here in the northeast. Parts of upstate NY have already seen almost 65inches of snow on the Tug Hill!
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Going to get some more lake effect tomorrow in NW PA. Like they need anymore!
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weathergeek5- No, it does not appear so. I feel pretty confident on my overall forecast, but I will be sure to provide links to both winter forecast blogs.
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Will you be doing a final "update" to your winter prediction as tomorrow is the first day of meteorological winter.
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51. Zachary Labe
11:24 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
JDinWPA- Good evening!!! Pretty ugly day out there too, looks like you though will be seeing some lake effect starting Monday, but primarily Monday night through Tuesday. Altitude plays a major role in weather especially in Pennsylvania, and especially in winter. Interestingly enough while some always think it is colder higher up, that is not necessarily the case. Sometimes with events like this one the deeper river valleys are colder. For example take a look at this picture from last February here in my area. I had no freezing rain, while half way up the mountain they had quite a bit. Link. Usually elevation has specific effects on a small regions local weather. For example when lows head up through Ohio and a coastal low forms, elevations near 1400ft west of mountains near your area will likely see rain, but elevations near 1400ft just east of the mountains in my area would see likely ice thanks to cold air damming. But mountains in your area in lake effect snow events would see higher amounts, while mountains in my region tend to cause downsloping winds from lake effect causing less amounts. Also in the summer the mountains aid in development of thunderstorms, some of which can be those devasting pulse thunderstorms, such as the one the caused the Johnstown Flood. In any case elevation is very relative to a local region. Altitude makes Pennsylvania a very difficult place to forecast as it cuts the state in half. Out west in the rockies the mountains play even a more major role in weather for elevation causing dry sides of the mountains and windward sides of the mountain. The best example of what elevation can do here in the northeast is Mt. Washington, NH... Link.
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50. JDinWPA
11:12 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Good evening all. Well, gosh, we have had a rather boring day compared to everyone else. It started drizzling rain here around 10:30 and the drizzle has keep up most of the day. We're at 33.5 at the moment after soaring to 34.2 degrees. It's just been one of those dreary days when the cold and damp creeps into your bones.

Does overall altitude really make such a big difference? Or is it more important to consider your altitude in relation to the altitude of the surrounding area? Just wondering. We're at 1400' at the top of a rather medium-size hill, as hills go around here. It always kind of surprising when others mention their altitudes.
49. Zachary Labe
10:57 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
TheRasberryPatch- Thanks for your report. Only .39inches of rain here.
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48. TheRasberryPatch
10:39 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
temp is 37.5F. it has been slowly increasing since 830am this morning. 0.46" of rain for the storm.
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47. Zachary Labe
10:19 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
sullivanweather- Only up to 35degrees here, well below the forecast high. When will the NWS ever learn to keep temperatures lower with cloud cover. It is a reoccuring problem with them.
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46. sullivanweather
10:16 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Still only 30.5°F here with a 1/3" icing already. Everything is a sheet of ice! The whole forest glows as cars pass by on the roads from being coated in freezing rain.
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45. Zachary Labe
9:38 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Based on what I am seeing I think the potential is there is for a widespread accumulating snowfall for next weekend. All global models show a decent alberta clipper moving through enough for a few inches. Cold air will definitely be there. Some models even go further and develop a miller b coastal low, but I will hold off talking about that for a while.
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44. Zachary Labe
9:30 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
wxgeek723- No snow here, but some of the higher elevations in northern Dauphin County saw up to an inch of snow/sleet.
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43. wxgeek723
8:42 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Exciting storm indeed, Blizzard. A scary weather event for Florida certainly, but they bare hurricanes; they'll be fine. Anyway, has any snow accumulated north of Harrisburg if it has snowed at all?
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42. Zachary Labe
8:11 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
cchamp6- It probably will for your county in CT, but other parts of CT are already or will shortly be seeing plain rain.
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41. cchamp6
7:58 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
My house is at about 850. Hills around me are in the 1,000 to 1,300 range. They are about 1-2 degrees colder right now. It feels like this freezing rain is gonna hold on for a while.
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40. Zachary Labe
7:55 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
cchamp6- Northeast wind definitely doing its job. What's your elevation up that way?
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39. cchamp6
7:50 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
I hope the warm air moves in soon. No need for a prolonged ice event. Roads are passable but not great.
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38. Zachary Labe
7:26 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
TheRasberryPatch- November precipitation total here is 1.75inches. Temperature just creeped up to 35degrees here too. I heard some of the higher elevations up in northern Dauphin County and Schuylkill County had up to an inch of snow and sleet.

cchamp6- According to surface analysis a low pressure has formed along the coast as expected. The one thing that made a bit more northeasterly wind was the high pressure that was a bit slower to push off the coast than expected. Warmer air is pushing northward, but much slower than forecasters expected. But as usual the NWS never takes in account cold air damming, even though we have only had little effects. I imagine locations to your south out of the hills of CT are seeing plain rain by now such as in Hartford.
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37. cchamp6
7:19 PM GMT on November 30, 2008

Strange day here. I keep expecting the temp. to go up but keeps dropping or holding steady. We have had snow, sleet and freezing rain. Steady freezing rain now. Things are coated up good with icicles hanging off of everything. Currently it is 30.9 with a dewpoint of 27. Wind was ese and now ene or nne. Low pressue forming to my south?
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36. TheRasberryPatch
7:07 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Rain and 35F here. 0.33" of rain for the day, so far. 1.94" for the month of November. I am glad this is rain. it has been a dry autumn and the rain will soak in. also, I don't have my lights up and i can't do it with snow and ice on the ground and roof. It's November still. : ))
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35. Zachary Labe
6:59 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
***Based on what I can see some freezing rain is building at the summit of Blue Mountain (elevation about 1300ft) while here in my valley location (520ft) it is only 34degrees with plain rain. Becareful today if you are traveling on mountain summit roads across the ridge and valley region. Also this morning it appears I had enough snow and somewhat sleet mix for an official recording of .1inches of snow putting the final November total at 6.1inches of snow.
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34. Zachary Labe
6:39 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
weathergeek5- Looks good. A pretty intense clipper system will move through Thursday followed by the coldest air of the season for the weekend. 850s below -10C as far south as southern Maryland.
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33. weathergeek5
5:00 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Here in Delaware it is raining hard with a temp of 39. As far as I know it started as rain. We have been talking about the cold air coming. How does that look still?
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32. Zachary Labe
4:52 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
12z GFS fully out and not too bad of a run for snow lovers. Definitely looking like a storm pattern along with cold air across parts of the CONUS, to me that is all that really matters. Looking at specific tracks like great lakes cutters is worthless at this point. The 12z GFS also backed off a bit on the western atlantic ridge, except it does bring it in the picture towards the end of the run.
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31. Zachary Labe
4:35 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
PalmyraPunishment- Synoptics were just not there for this to amount to anything really for this storm. It is a decent sign in my opinion to see another low heading up the coast. If it wasnt't for that pesky primary low to our west this could have been a much better situation.

sullivanweather- The sleet/freezing rain line is quickly advancing northward along with warmer air. I had a report in northeastern Tioga County with an elevation over 2000ft that it is already just plain sleeting with freezing rain.
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30. sullivanweather
4:30 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
IT's been snowing/sleeting pretty good here since 9am. We got about 1/2" of snow/sleet mixture on the ground now. It switches back and forth as the heavier precip moves through. With that massive shield of precip screaming up the Eastern Seaboard we should get into some really nasty weather here in about an hour.

Temperature is holding steady around 27°F after a low last night of 18°F.
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29. PalmyraPunishment
4:27 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
morning all,

nothing like a dreary november day headlined by a cold, depressing rain.

i did see that we had a coating of ice here in the cumberland valley early in the morning, but when i woke up again at 10 am it was all gone, and all we're left with is rain and miserable cold.

i was hoping for another episode of cold air damming that would give us some hope all day -- but it looks like that may have come and gone in a matter of hours. just not our storm.

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28. Zachary Labe
4:21 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
lawntonlookers- A dreary November day looks instore for us. Still a bit of snow left here with plain rain now. Lol, the crazy NWS decides to issue a special weather statement for the mixed precipitation in our area, but they wait until it is over. What a joke they are sometimes. They always overestimate the warmth for their southeastern counties, seems to be some strange bias they have.
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27. lawntonlookers
4:15 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Good morning. Just a little snow left on the windows and roof of the when I went out at 8:30 AM. All rain now. It looks like most of the cold part of the storm is to the West of PA. It sure was a nice day yesterday though.
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26. Zachary Labe
2:28 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
TheRasberryPatch- Lol. I decided to take advantage of the beautiful weather on Saturday. Next weekend highs may be in the 20s and there are even hints of a snowstorm towards Sunday.
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25. TheRasberryPatch
2:18 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Now you tell me about putting up the outside lights. I don't recall seeing that in your blog, Blizz. thanks. : )))
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24. Zachary Labe
2:14 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
shoreacres- Good morning!!! This time of year I look at almost every model run each 6 hour interval, almost makes you go crazy sometimes with back and forth possibilities. Hoping the ice won't last too long this morning. Christmas lights up here already, it just looks way too cold for putting up lights next weekend. Thanks for stopping by!
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23. shoreacres
1:58 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Good morning, Bliz ~

I just spent two cups of coffee REALLY reading through your header, and the comments. It's amazing to me. You winter-weather folks do analysis just like the tropical gurus, and have hankerings for storms in just the same way. It tickles me to see the (quite understandable) preferences, too, like snow over ice.

We've managed to head into another week with cool, placid weather - roughly 60s and 70s during the day, and 40s at night. That's one more week to get my rear in gear and finish getting the Christmas lights up. Have a good one!
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22. Zachary Labe
1:52 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
TheRasberryPatch- Yep, looks good so far. A coating of snow/sleet here with a light coating of freezing rain. 31degrees here.

jthal57- Thanks for your report!
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21. jthal57
1:34 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
about .20 in. snow/sleet mix here this am Blizz; temp of 33F with a light rain/sleet mix
20. TheRasberryPatch
1:30 PM GMT on November 30, 2008
Well Blizz, so far it looks like your forecast is coming to fruition. I had snow sleet mix early this morning with a coating. temps have been rising this morning with a high of 33 @ 5am. it came down a bit to 32 now.
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