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Posted by: Zachary Labe, 4:40 PM GMT on December 27, 2011 +3
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"10mi northeast of Harrisburg 2011-2012 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- 0.0in
Monthly Total (October)- 5.5in
Monthly Total (November)- 0.0in
Monthly Total (December)- 0.4in
Seasonal Total- 5.9in
Winter Weather Advisories- 1
Winter Storm Warnings- 1
Ice Storm Warnings- 0
Blizzard Warnings- 0
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Winter Storm Watches- 1

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Lowest High Temperature- 31F
Lowest Low Temperature- 17F
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Historic October Nor'easter - October 29 - 5.5in of wet snow
322 Lake Effect Snow Band - December 17 - 0.3in of wet snow
Weak Clipper - December 29 - 0.1in of snow
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1. Zachary Labe 4:41 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
*I just cannot find enough to talk about winter weather wise for a full blog. For now I am just going to post an observation blog.
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2. originalLT 4:46 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Blizz, sounds like "frustration" is setting in!! Things can change, maybe the second half of the winter will be better-- a negative NAO and positive PNA!
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3. listenerVT 4:48 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Quoting Blizzard92:
*I just cannot find enough to talk about winter weather wise for a full blog. For now I am just going to post an observation blog.


Sounds like a plan. After all, we'd have nothing to talk about without observations!

It's dripping here. The 4" of snow we got over the last half week is melting off slowly today. It is said that we'll have dribs and drabs of snow over the coming week, so I'm just hoping we get to keep a light covering of snow, at least, so things stay brightened up. We'll see.

This season has been easier on the birds and beasts. Have there been any unusual sightings? For example, we saw a pair of Bluebirds in Kennebunk, Maine on the 17th & 18th of December! Highly unusual.
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4. bwi 4:55 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Thanks Blizz. The soil moisture graph doesn't seem to be updating. I saw MD in the dry anomaly color and went Huh? We're drowning down here.
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5. PalmyraPunishment 4:57 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
lol, the airport.
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6. Zachary Labe 5:05 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
12z GFS is horrible, once again no snow through 16 days for the entire Middle Atlantic and much of New England. A few weak clippers coming though towards New Years and may allow for a bit of light snow. But along and south of I-80 look too warm.
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7. Zachary Labe 5:25 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
The best chance of any wintry precipitation will be in the January 3-5 timeframe. But without blocking, wintry precipitation in many areas is not likely. But for those of us inland including the LSV, we have a bit more leeway and sometimes setups like this are semi-favorable. Here is the 12z GGEM for next week...
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8. PalmyraPunishment 6:44 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
The asterisk overlord strikes again. lol. wxrisk.com

%u200E*** ALERT *** ALERT** the 12z CMC model has turned DRAMATICALLY to the European Model solution of a MAJOR EAST COAST Low JAN 3-4.. and away from the GFS Model which STILL shows NO BIG east coast Low... this shift of a model from NO Big east coast Low to BIG Low... is SIGNIFICANT

Just posted for discussional purposes which range from informative to comedic, depending on the source.

edit: immediately after submitting this post, I realized that "discussional" is not a word but I refuse to edit that. if Jesse Jackson gets to make up words, then so do I.

edit edit: more from asterisk man...

%u200E*** ALERT *** ALERT *** 12Z Tuesday brand new European develops MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM JAN 3-4..... the Model if ..IF.. you take the Model Verbatim it does shows SIGNIFICANT snow over western and central NC VA much of MD and into the I-95 Cities ....
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9. johnbluedog69 7:20 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Quoting PalmyraPunishment:
The asterisk overlord strikes again. lol. wxrisk.com

%u200E*** ALERT *** ALERT** the 12z CMC model has turned DRAMATICALLY to the European Model solution of a MAJOR EAST COAST Low JAN 3-4.. and away from the GFS Model which STILL shows NO BIG east coast Low... this shift of a model from NO Big east coast Low to BIG Low... is SIGNIFICANT

Just posted for discussional purposes which range from informative to comedic, depending on the source.

edit: immediately after submitting this post, I realized that "discussional" is not a word but I refuse to edit that. if Jesse Jackson gets to make up words, then so do I.

edit edit: more from asterisk man...

%u200E*** ALERT *** ALERT *** 12Z Tuesday brand new European develops MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM JAN 3-4..... the Model if ..IF.. you take the Model Verbatim it does shows SIGNIFICANT snow over western and central NC VA much of MD and into the I-95 Cities ....


And those of us in southern delaware will naturally get rain again:((((
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10. Zachary Labe 7:47 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
There is probably going to be a storm in that time frame given the steep trough and the models indicating that a front stalls around the coast and kinks back. But given the terrible Atlantic regime, it is going to be luck to get snow to the coast and along I-95. The more inland, the better chance probably. It would not even take much to send the snow area back to southeast Canada.
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11. bwi 7:58 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Looks like a quick-moving band of heavy rain headed for DC soon. Hopefully winds will shift to the west and will dry out for the evening commute!
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12. Zachary Labe 8:01 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Quoting bwi:
Looks like a quick-moving band of heavy rain headed for DC soon. Hopefully winds will shift to the west and will dry out for the evening commute!

Storm is about 6 hours ahead of current guidance and will quickly end from west to east late afternoon into early evening. Nice round of upslope snow for a bit (12 hours) should allow western Maryland up through the Laurel Highlands to get a nice 3-6in of fluffy snow. It should help the ski resorts.
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13. Zachary Labe 8:11 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
The differences between the GFS and ECMWF at that range are absolutely pathetic...
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14. Drakoen 8:19 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Storm in an ideal position 180-192 hours out is suspect to large variations. The ECMWF has shown some big storms only to drop them in later runs. I do like the wave the 500mb longwave pattern look though. The ECMWF showing a large trough in the east and a large ridge in the west. The teleconnections show the NAO heading neutral and the AO heading sharply neutral after having been fairly positive recently. The ECMWF and its ensemble members show a fairly strong positive PNA whereas the GFS and its ensemble members are not as dramatic which probably accounts for the discrepancies between these two models. The image below gives you an idea of the differences in the 500mb longwave pattern on those models


Figure 1. ECMWF (left) and GFS (right) 500mb longwave means.


Figure 2. Model PNA forecasts
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15. Zachary Labe 8:31 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Drakoen- Nice post. The amplitude of the ridge is definitely perking my interest a bit, but otherwise the ECMWF has showed many of these fantasy snows this season. The 12z ECMWF ensemble mean shows a bit of kinking along the isobars with probably a few members indicating a storm system along the coast. This is the best setup since the October storm, but that is not saying much. Without any blocking, this easily could shoot up inland. I do think the GFS is a bit too progressive and therefore there is a pretty high likelihood of a storm system of some sort. HPC seems a bit antsy, lol...

EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
230 PM EST TUE DEC 27 2011

VALID 12Z FRI DEC 30 2011 - 12Z TUE JAN 03 2012

A QUIET RATHER MILD PATTERN MOST PLACES THRU THE WEEKEND. BUT
SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL IS STILL POSSIBLE FROM THE MID-SOUTH INTO THE
CAROLINAS/MID-ATLANTIC/NORTHEASTERN STATES NEXT WEEK. DETAILS
QUITE SKETCHY...
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16. HeavySnow 8:31 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Nice job hacking the Euro Palmyra. That's right, put it back, put winter back where it belongs. You don't have to be gentle, just put it back!

Amnesty for the theft of winter has almost run out. The time is nigh!
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17. Zachary Labe 8:33 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Quoting HeavySnow:
Nice job hacking the Euro Palmyra. That's right, put it back, put winter back where it belongs. You don't have to be gentle, just put it back!

Amnesty for the theft of winter has almost run out. The time is nigh!

For some pure amusement... today's 12z ECMWF prints out just a tad under 2ft of snow for your area, hahahah. If only...
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18. PalmyraPunishment 8:47 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
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19. Zachary Labe 8:50 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Quoting PalmyraPunishment:

:/ haha. Ugh, why bother going to the trouble to make a map. That EURO output will change nearly 100x before next week.
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20. Drakoen 8:53 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Euro ensembles 12z 500mb longwave

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21. Zachary Labe 8:56 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    

Phases 5-8? Let's hope...
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22. PalmyraPunishment 9:00 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
If that remains by 12z tomorrow, color me shocked.
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23. Drakoen 9:01 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
MJO models
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24. TheRasberryPatch 9:35 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
what a lousy miserably cold and rainy day today. I am over 1" of rain for the day. The rain started after 10am. UGH. It's a shame there weren't any bowl games on earlier.
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25. crowe1 10:10 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Got some mod/hvy, rain/sleet bands moving over now.
Broadalbin,NY

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26. crowe1 10:12 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
Son just got home, roads getting BAD! Temp hovering around freezing.
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27. bwi 11:46 PM GMT on December 27, 2011    
I was dreading it, but it turned out to be fantastic weather for tonight's commute. Soggy but great. Perfect timing of a wind shift, and an awesome sunset with setting sun on the horizon under the cloud deck as the front or dry line moved through. Combined with hitting the green on all but two red lights, I made it home in 65 minutes. Had a blistering southerly tailwind for the northbound trail sections, and then what seemed like a windshift to W for last couple miles where I go mostly west to east. Despite the heavy rain, my bike computer says I averaged nearly 15.5mph net over the almost 17 mile ride. I'm sure I beat a lot of drivers, since DC area traffic is always horrible when it rains!
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28. goofyrider 12:03 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
40 N, 74E

Winds out of SE G25-30, light rain low 50's
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29. bwi 12:17 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
18z GFS mega storm it looks like. But instead of the Jan 3-5 period, it's Sunday Jan 8th!
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30. PalmyraPunishment 12:30 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
SUNDAY!

SUNDAY!

SUNDAY!

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31. Zachary Labe 1:05 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
hahaha oh the GFS. Gosh now the people will start hyping the 8th. What a joke.
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32. Zachary Labe 1:11 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
***Well I just finished the task of categorizing all of my past blogs. All of my past blogs since December 2007 have now been archived and organized by general categories. See the left side of the screen for the link on my blog.
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33. weathergeek5 1:15 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
One thing with this weather I love tracking weather period. If there is no snow I am bothered some it is the way that things go some times. I saw you post Blizz on a certain fan club with the voice of reason and you were shot down due to not wishcasting a storm. Between 1966-1978 there were no snow storms in the Delaware valley above 7 to 8 inches. Does anyone remember the winters between 1968-1974? Snow was scare. I am sorry if those winters are bringing back bad memories of no snow. When you get a minute could you look up the totals from 1967-1977 to see how much Harrisburg got those years? What would happen if those lean years returned??
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34. MariettaMoon 1:20 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Wow, was driving in Hamilton NJ around 7:45pm when that last line swept through. Before the line hit, it was windy but nothing was falling, I though the storm was over. Then BAM! ran into a freakin wall of water. Never saw it coming. It was a lot like when a car from the other lane hits a huge puddle and it hits your windshield and scares the living crap out of you! I've done tons of driving all over the country in all sorts of weather but have never experienced going from dry to complete blindness in the snap of a finger. That was downright dangerous.

I shot up to 58F at 7:45pm just before that last line here in Hamilton NJ.
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35. TheRasberryPatch 1:27 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting weathergeek5:
One thing with this weather I love tracking weather period. If there is no snow I am bothered some it is the way that things go some times. I saw you post Blizz on a certain fan club with the voice of reason and you were shot down due to not wishcasting a storm. Between 1966-1978 there were no snow storms in the Delaware valley above 7 to 8 inches. Does anyone remember the winters between 1968-1974? Snow was scare. I am sorry if those winters are bringing back bad memories of no snow. When you get a minute could you look up the totals from 1967-1977 to see how much Harrisburg got those years? What would happen if those lean years returned??


If you look at my past posts the past couple of weeks and even in past years I bring up very similar scenarios growing up in northern suburbs of Baltimore. I recall from mid 70's through the 80's snow was scarce for the most part. We had a couple of big 20" plus storms, but that's about it. I think one was '79 and the other '83. Both around Valentines Day.

Everyone is going to say I sound like a broken record, but most Christmas and New Years were brown and either cold or rainy.
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36. weathergeek5 1:31 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


If you look at my past posts the past couple of weeks and even in past years I bring up very similar scenarios growing up in northern suburbs of Baltimore. I recall from mid 70's through the 80's snow was scarce for the most part. We had a couple of big 20" plus storms, but that's about it. I think one was '79 and the other '83. Both around Valentines Day.

Everyone is going to say I sound like a broken record, but most Christmas and New Years were brown and either cold or rainy.


I remember the Blizzard of 1983 and faintly the Blizzard of 1978 I was 3 1/2 - 4 years old then. For the winter of 1973-1973 Philadelphia got a trace of snow the whole winter. So you know that this happens.
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37. Zachary Labe 1:34 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
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38. pittsburghnurse 1:38 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
PP, give me back my snow. I am asking nicely. Please I'd like to have it back now. It was supposed to be here but it's not. Sunday... promises, promises!
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39. originalLT 1:40 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
The blizzard of '78 was some storm!, it was well forecasted as I recall, not so with the 1983 storm. Both storms were around 20". I lived in New Rochelle NY. at that time. I believe the 1978 storm covered a greater area. I guess MM could tell us since he got that great book for Christmas. Here by me , with this current rain storm, just had a wind gust out of the SSE at 36mph. Baro is down to 29.29". I will go outside and check my rain guage after it stops raining, in an hour or so.
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40. weathergeek5 2:11 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting Blizzard92:


do you have one for Harrisburg?
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41. Zachary Labe 2:17 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting weathergeek5:


do you have one for Harrisburg?

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42. weathergeek5 2:26 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting Blizzard92:



So it seems like a majority of those years it was BELOW average.
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43. originalLT 2:27 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Interesting graph Blizz, seeing the lowest total, 9" right between two "Mega" years!
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44. weathergeek5 2:27 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Thanks for both Charts.
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45. originalLT 2:30 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
You are right weathergeek5. Those big years bring up the "average", other wise it is often below average.
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46. HeavySnow 2:31 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Quoting bwi:
I was dreading it, but it turned out to be fantastic weather for tonight's commute. Soggy but great. Perfect timing of a wind shift, and an awesome sunset with setting sun on the horizon under the cloud deck as the front or dry line moved through. Combined with hitting the green on all but two red lights, I made it home in 65 minutes. Had a blistering southerly tailwind for the northbound trail sections, and then what seemed like a windshift to W for last couple miles where I go mostly west to east. Despite the heavy rain, my bike computer says I averaged nearly 15.5mph net over the almost 17 mile ride. I'm sure I beat a lot of drivers, since DC area traffic is always horrible when it rains!


I was driving back to work in Springfield at that time and the sky was amazing. The sun under the cloud deck was so beautiful that I was trying to take a picture with my blackberry when 180 degrees over was now the most incredible rainbow I have ever seen. The full side to side double rainbow. Wow! It lasted right until sunset, about 15 minutes, and progressed to another sweet sight, the crescent moon and Venus alone in the sunset.


Now about that 2 feet of snow. It's a'comin'! Finally. Maybe, at least we have something to look at. For now.
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47. Zachary Labe 2:34 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
That's why I hate the concept of comparing numerical values to averages. An average is nothing more than the mean of two extremes; so why compare? Seems silly to me; I think I ranted in an afternoon thought section on one of my blogs before, lol.
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48. shoreacres 2:35 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Well, gosh - the whole gang is here! Just stopping by to wish all of you a happy New Year - and some SNOW! I think Amarillo's had more snow than some of you, so far.

One of my cousin's kids got stuck somewhere in New Mexico, trying to get home for Christmas. The last I heard, they were on the road again, and cussing like crazy. They would have been happy with dry and brown.

Down here in Texas, we're still hoping for a repeat of the 2004 "Christmas Miracle", when they were building snowmen on Galveston Island. I do believe that was the single best snow of my life - hope you get yours soon!

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49. originalLT 2:41 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Yes you did "Rant" on one of your blogs about that Blizz! But it's still interesting to see, thanks for posting.
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50. HeavySnow 2:56 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
oops
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51. HeavySnow 3:00 AM GMT on December 28, 2011    
Link

This should be video of the rainbow.
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