Quieter Weather Week for the Northeast...

By: Zachary Labe , 1:34 PM GMT on November 01, 2011

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"Afternoon Thoughts" (Updated 11/01)
The first round of prelims (what Cornell calls tests) is over the and the second round is underway. Course selection for next semester has already begun. The year is surely on its way. I have been part of this community now for several months, and I am quickly adapting to my daily wash/rinse routine; although this is what I prefer. The general atmosphere remains a very difficult and stressful regime with concerns over prelims running amuck. Socially, I remain deprived and this continues to remain my biggest challenge. My meteorology classes are going excellent and even Calculus is going pretty well.

A few weeks ago I attended a seminar by the Randy Olson, a scientist (Harvard PhD) turned filmaker. His seminar featured the concept of scientists relating their information to the general public. This concept is in correspondance with his lastest book, "Don't be Such as Scientist." This storyline is about how to get your message across to the general public and how scientists typically come up on the other side of proficient. Looking at this concept is definitely true. Scientists have a very difficult time relaying their findings to the public. Perhaps this is why the global warming crowd has such a difficult time finding acceptance through public acknowledgement. Scientists often are more concerned with elaborating on the 'whys' where instead they should focus on telling a story. This story being on how it impacts the average person. The general society is very focused on themself and how it will personally impact them. Scientists and communication do not go hand in hand and this will continue to be a big issue for any policies in the future. While scientists should not have to 'dumb down' their ideas, they should be able to manipulate them in a way that tells a story and impacts the average person. Think of this as a movie storyline. Until science finds an alternative solution to public communication, many important concepts will go lost. And even with the advent of the internet, this problem still remains. While I have not read Randy Olson's book, for those looking for an interesting read here are the chapters...
1) Don't Be So Cerebral
2) Don't Be So Literal Minded
3) Don't Be Such a Poor Storyteller
4) Don't Be So Unlikeable
5) Be the Voice of Science

"Current Surface Plot"

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"Regional Radar"

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"Regional Advisories"

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"Forecast Discussion"(Updated 11/01)
Well given the impressive kick-off to the winter season with many areas already running well above normal in seasonal snowfall totals, I decided to begin the month of November with my winter format for my weekly weather forecasts. Below you can find information on lake effect snow and eventually ice reports as we get farther into the winter season. There are also links to my winter forecast for 2011-2012 down below. It is hard to believe that all I-95 cities have reported their first snow accumulations. In some winters, even as of recently 2007-2008, many first 1in snowfall amounts did not occur until early to mid January! This record breaking October storm you could say is as rare as they come and had it been mid winter, it would have likely been a widespread 2ft KU storm. The records broken in October 2011 are likely to stand for many years, although it does appear the frequency of these nor'easters associated with snow in October are on the rise in the last decade. Perhaps this can be associated with the decadal -NAO trend we have entered or maybe it is something more. One of my meteorology professors announced in class that the Northeast Regional Climate Center (NRCC is located here at Cornell in Ithaca, NY) will be performing a study to determine whether the relatively frequency of October snow is on the rise. In any case it appears the weather for the first week in November will be a bit more benign...

We have now officially entered the month of November and the associated last week in Daylight savings time. I always signal the start of winter storm tracking by the beginning of standard time. This is because the models all come out a hour earlier! Climatological normal high temperatures are now into the upper 50s daily for areas as far south as Harrisburg, PA while areas in northern New England are entering the low 50s for average highs. October is the month with the largest temperature extremes from the beginning to the end for climatological means.

A coastal storm well off the east coast with little to no effects on the mainland will continue to pull to the northeast into the north Atlantic shippling lanes. Visible satellite images indicate clearing skies from west to east over the Northeast indicating generally nice weather for Tuesday with seasonal temperatures as H85s continue to remain below 0C. High pressure and upper level ridging will move into the region for Wednesday allowing for radiational cooling Tuesday nights as temperatures drop at or below freezing for much of the Northeast. Temperatures may drop into the lower 20s for parts of northern New England. Sunshine will dominate the region's weather for Wednesday with once again seasonable to slightly above normal temperatures ranging from the mid 50s across the north to lower 60s in the Washington DC region.

A weak shortwave will advance towards the region on Thursday and will quickly begin to shear apart. The 850hPa low track will be across New York state with most moisture along and north of the track. QPF for NAM/GFS guidance remains low and this shortwave will have little to no impact on the region. Less than 0.03in QPF is likely for the entire Northeast with only scattered drizzle or a light rain shower in spots. H85 heights will rise to near +8C so all precipitation will be in the form of rain.

Slightly colder air will move in behind the shortwave along with high pressure making for a wonderful Fall weekend. Slightly below normal temperatures are likely for Saturday and more frosts and freezes are likely Friday and Saturday nights. Increasing cirrus ahead of the next advancing shortwave will move from west to east Sunday night with precipitation chances on the rise for Monday. Once again it appears QPF will be light and in the form of rain.

General weather theme for this week is seasonable temperatures under generally partly cloudy skies. Nights will be cold with several frosts and freezes as far south as Maryland.

"Regional Satellite"

(Courtesy of Penn State Meteo.)

"Current Water Vapor Loop"

(Courtesy of Penn State Meteo.)

"Lake Effect Snow Conditions" (Updated 11/01)
The lack of lake effect snow is not abnormal for the Northeast given the season generally does not start until mid November. There have been a few days with lake effect rain bands stretching across the Buffalo metro region and off of Lake Ontario into areas such as Syracuse, but no lake effect snow bouts have occured yet for this young winter season. Given the mild weather for the next 7-14 days, it appears there will not be any lake effect snow events. As the pattern rapidly alters towards the middle to end of November, it is likely the first lake effect snow outbreak will occur. Water temperatures are still running about 2-5F above normal with slightly higher averages in some shallower basins. Given the warm lake water, it is likely some very impressive snow bands will form this winter season.

"Current Great Lakes Water Temperatures"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

-Link to official river ice reports page from NWS... Link.
-Link to local ski resort snow conditions... Link.

"Current Northeast Snow Depth and Northeast Wind chills"

(Courtesy of Wunderground)

"Long Term Outlook" (Updated 11/01)
The next two weeks will feature above normal temperatures in a very warm regime with some of the major metropolitan regions perhaps touching the 70s once again. But this warm pattern will be associated with drier air, so the temperatures will feel very nice in this Indian-summer pattern. All areas in the Northeast have finally ended their growing season which is a tad earlier than normal for the major cities. The -PNA and +NAO will materialize troughing over the west coast of the United States while the southeast ridge strengthens over the east coast. Minimal precipitation chances are likely in this period given the relatively benign weather pattern. ECMWF ensembles indicate a west-based -NAO pattern returning for the second week of the month, but I think it is likely the warmer pattern prevails. A slight, transient cool shot is likely for the first weekend of the month, but temperatures will be predominately near normal generally for high temperatures as radiational cooling will allow for a few chilly nights. Little to no chance of snow is likely in this period.

"Current NAO and PNA Predictions"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Anchorage, Alaska Tower Cam"

*Back due to popular demand!

"Monthly Temperature/Precipitation Outlook"(November)(Updated 11/01)
The first two weeks of November will feature well above normal temperatures particularily towards the second week of the month. La Nina is continuing to strengthen in the equitorial Pacific with noticeable effects beginning to occur across North America including the effects of the southeast ridge. The MJO will be entering and moving through phases 1-4 favoring troughing over the west coast of the United States, will warm air moves and situates itself over the Northeast. Teleconnections also correspond with this forecast as the PNA retreats back towards negative and the NAO postive. Also a positive EPO will last through at least mid month. Given these several indices, there will be little to block the warmth from entering the Northeast through the first two weeks. Current global ensembles continue to indicate the pattern change coming mid month and perhaps a tad bit later. ECMWF ensembles indicate an even quicker turn to a negative NAO suggesting an earlier change. MJO may even approach the more favorable phases of 7-8 towards late month linking towards east coast troughing. At this point it appears the cold air will rapidly move south from Canada after it bottled up for the first half of the month. Canadian snow cover though will likely average near climatological normal through the month of November. The last week of November looks very cold.

Temperatures- Temperatures show average around (+)0.5-(+)1.5 for most climatological reporting sites in the Northeast. My forecast takes in account for a very mild second week of the month and a tad longer of a switch to a colder regime for the second half of the month.

Precipitation- I am expecting near normal precipitation for most areas, although a few areas could average below normal. The first half of the month looks relatively dry at this point, especially in comparison to the recent pattern over the last six months or so. I am expecting a bigger storm to form late in the month given the MJO pattern. This may be in the form of snow for some areas. Snow should average near normal for most locations this month and I think it is likely many areas see their next snow in the month of November with the highest chance right around Thanksgiving.

"Temperature and Precipitation Outlooks from Climate Prediction Center for next 30 days"

(Courtesy of NOAA)

"Local Harrisburg Radar"

(Courtesy of WGAL)

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169. TheRasberryPatch
7:50 PM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:
Pattern through the end of the month looks very mild with huge southeast ridge. Minimal snow chances likely the rest of November.


That is alright with me...just as long as the temps don't get too warm. Like back in the early to mid 80's when we had highs in the 80's during Thanksgiving weekend
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168. Zachary Labe
4:13 PM GMT on November 12, 2011
Pattern through the end of the month looks very mild with huge southeast ridge. Minimal snow chances likely the rest of November.
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167. TheRasberryPatch
1:00 PM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:


Yes, AWD would be a help for stability. I'd still want snows up here, even with AWD, but I can see that it would work fine in Pittsburgh. My little Mini Cooper does great in snow! It's front-wheel drive but I also have Dynamic Traction Control and a Sport boost as needed. It also has anti-lock brakes which help keep the car from going into a spin on an icy corner. The Mini has a wide stance for its height, and I have never slipped on a wintry road in a Mini. (This is my second Mini.) Of course, it's made by BMW, so it's pretty solid.


Ever since my first new vehicle I bought I have always had 4WD and it comes in handy for snow and ice. Now they have vehicles that can have 4WD, 2WD or AWD. That is what my latest has onboard.

My first new vehicle was a S10 Blazer. I was on an exit ramp around Baltimore beltway. It was stopped. It was also the winter where we were getting freezing rain at 18F. Since we were stopped I turned off 4WD. What a mistake. My car started to slide sideways. I immediately put it back in 4WD and the slide stopped. Ever since then I want 4WD capable vehicle. For mid-Atlantic winters you never know what the winter will bring. AWD is good for traction when getting heavy rain as well. You don't lose traction with your back end sliding around as much. Of course being a defensive driver is a major factor in any type of driving.
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166. listenerVT
7:15 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting pittsburghnurse:


I swapped them out the last couple of years for my all seasons and they made a huge difference in control and ability to get out of a bind. In the steep hilly neighborhoods of Pittsburgh control is hard to come by. That was when I had a front wheel drive Mazda. This year I'm keeping my all seasons cuz I have AWD.


Yes, AWD would be a help for stability. I'd still want snows up here, even with AWD, but I can see that it would work fine in Pittsburgh. My little Mini Cooper does great in snow! It's front-wheel drive but I also have Dynamic Traction Control and a Sport boost as needed. It also has anti-lock brakes which help keep the car from going into a spin on an icy corner. The Mini has a wide stance for its height, and I have never slipped on a wintry road in a Mini. (This is my second Mini.) Of course, it's made by BMW, so it's pretty solid.
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165. listenerVT
7:12 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


I didn't know there was such a thing as snow tires anymore. I mean I know out west in the Rockies and in Alaska, but I didn't know they were needed east of the Rockies. Especially with the all season tires.



All-season tires are okay for at least three seasons, but I strongly prefer snows for Winter up here in Vermont. We had over 100" of snow last Winter! The traction is much better and when the roads are icy and unsalted it makes all the difference. I haven't needed to get studded snows, but my eldest son prefers them.

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164. pittsburghnurse
3:00 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


I didn't know there was such a thing as snow tires anymore. I mean I know out west in the Rockies and in Alaska, but I didn't know they were needed east of the Rockies. Especially with the all season tires.


I swapped them out the last couple of years for my all seasons and they made a huge difference in control and ability to get out of a bind. In the steep hilly neighborhoods of Pittsburgh control is hard to come by. That was when I had a front wheel drive Mazda. This year I'm keeping my all seasons cuz I have AWD.
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163. TheRasberryPatch
2:19 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:


LOL! Yeah, in the absence of snow, we could have a thread about snow tires. ;-)


I didn't know there was such a thing as snow tires anymore. I mean I know out west in the Rockies and in Alaska, but I didn't know they were needed east of the Rockies. Especially with the all season tires.
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162. wunderstorm87
2:00 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
It's already 32F here...looks like it's going to be a pretty chilly night. My lowest temperature so far this fall was 24.3F on October 30th (when snow was on the ground).
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161. MariettaMoon
1:14 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
11/10
RECORD HIGH MAXIMUM
Pittsfield MA: 65F*

RECORD HIGH MINIMUM
Portland ME: 51F (t)

11/09
RECORD HIGH MAXIMUMS
Burlington VT: 68F*
Watertown NY: 71F*

11/08
RECORD HIGH MAXIMUMS
Buffalo NY: 70F*
Providence RI: 70F (t)
Islip NY: 70F*
Reading PA: 73F*
Atlantic City NJ: 72F (t)
Elkins WV: 73F (t)

11/01
RECORD LOW MINIMUM
Hagerstown MD: 33F (t)
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160. listenerVT
1:04 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting TheF1Man:


He could also write a blog about tires, and how heavily treaded ones are meant for the winter and not the summer! At least you can stretch them out another year now.


LOL! Yeah, in the absence of snow, we could have a thread about snow tires. ;-)
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159. TheF1Man
12:48 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:



:-)

Maybe you could tell us what you say to people who look at you perplexed and ask, "What's up with this strange warm weather?" Seriously, people want to understand what's going on and have some concept of what to expect.


He could also write a blog about tires, and how heavily treaded ones are meant for the winter and not the summer! At least you can stretch them out another year now.
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158. listenerVT
12:18 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:
Weather is so boring, I don't know what to write a new blog on, lol.



:-)

Maybe you could tell us what you say to people who look at you perplexed and ask, "What's up with this strange warm weather?" Seriously, people want to understand what's going on and have some concept of what to expect.
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157. listenerVT
12:16 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting TheF1Man:


You were driving with different tires all summer?!! Hahaha sorry but that is kinda funny. You're really ready for 'all seasons' up there in VT!


I know!! Snows all Summer. It's too funny!! I guess that means I'm ready for anything Vermont weather can throw at me. LOL!

The good news is that my snows are still fine and my Summer tires will work great for next year (and wouldn't have), so I won't have to buy any new tires until this time next year.

As Louisa May Alcott would say:
"There's no great loss without some small gain."

;-)
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156. TheF1Man
12:06 AM GMT on November 12, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:


Well said!

So, as I mentioned, I'd dropped off my car to get its snow sneakers put on, right? Found out the next day that the tires we'd put into the back of the car, in wraps, were my Summer tires, as we'd never had the snows taken off! Does that make us real Vermonters? But it wasn't a wasted trip because my car was 10 days out of inspection. I'm glad they caught that! It's new enough that it passed fine, which is probably why it wasn't in the forefront of our thinking. But we're glad we could provide the day's comic relief for the auto shop! LOL!


You were driving with different tires all summer?!! Hahaha sorry but that is kinda funny. You're really ready for 'all seasons' up there in VT!
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155. TheRasberryPatch
10:12 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:
Weather is so boring, I don't know what to write a new blog on, lol.


How about Thanksgiving dinner and making sure you have good homemade sauerkraut. Yum Yum

Or maybe how to make sauerkraut?

Waaaa Haaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa

Still plenty of leaves on the trees. I think most maples have lost their leaves. Ornamental Pears are finally at peak color. Firebushes are bright.
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154. Zachary Labe
9:49 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Weather is so boring, I don't know what to write a new blog on, lol.
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153. listenerVT
9:41 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


Having an android phone I use weatherbug. It does a great job with the actual weather and radar loop. It also follows you if you enable it. It also puts the temp in the header. I'm not a weatherchannel person.
I know Wunderground has an iPhone app, but couldn't tell you how good it is on the phone.


Thanks, Raspberry Patch!
I'll check out weatherbug. I'm considering weatherpro.

I didn't know WU has a app! That would be my first choice, then!
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152. TheRasberryPatch
7:23 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:
So, it looks like I'll be turning in my flip phone for an iPhone next month.

What's the best weather app to start off with?


Having an android phone I use weatherbug. It does a great job with the actual weather and radar loop. It also follows you if you enable it. It also puts the temp in the header. I'm not a weatherchannel person.
I know Wunderground has an iPhone app, but couldn't tell you how good it is on the phone.
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151. listenerVT
7:19 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
So, it looks like I'll be turning in my flip phone for an iPhone next month.

What's the best weather app to start off with?
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150. listenerVT
7:19 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting wunderstorm87:

The students set up a candlelight vigil tonight at 9:30 for the victims.


It looks like the lake effect snow machine is kicking up a bit today with Bradford reporting heavy snow as of noon.


Good to hear about the vigil. Thanks! I'm sure individual students are reacting various ways. The media tends to lump everyone together.
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149. Zachary Labe
7:15 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Some flurries up here currently. It is about time the lake effect snow machine began! That squall coming off Ontario is producing accumulations just southeast of Syracuse. I checked tower cams near Hamilton, NY and it looks like they have an inch or so.
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148. wunderstorm87
5:41 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:


Yikes!

I don't see violence as a tribute to the children who were abused. A peaceful vigil with protest signs would be a lot more effective.

The students set up a candlelight vigil tonight at 9:30 for the victims.


It looks like the lake effect snow machine is kicking up a bit today with Bradford reporting heavy snow as of noon.
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147. listenerVT
5:17 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
We've got HAIL coming down!!
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146. TheRasberryPatch
4:57 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:


If the temps would hold, I'd be with you on waiting. Of course, once the ground freezes over we need a blanket of snow for insulation. I'd prefer snow to an ice storm, which becomes increasingly possible when it's warmer than usual. At least it perks up the spirits to go from brown landscape to white, simply because more light is reflected.


My thoughts also. cold and brown eventually gets depressing. when there is a blanket of white it does perk you up a bit.

My thanks also to ALL VETERANS. It is a shame our government doesn't give them a huge retirement salary after 10 or 20 years on active duty. They deserve it. And if you have seen some time of combat you should be set for life courtesy of us the citizens of the USA
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145. listenerVT
4:30 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Happy Binary Day everyone!!

=And thanks to the Veterans among us.=
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144. listenerVT
4:28 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:
Not to be off-topic, but wow, what a mess up at Penn State. Police are in riot gear this evening on campus.


Yikes!

I don't see violence as a tribute to the children who were abused. A peaceful vigil with protest signs would be a lot more effective.
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143. listenerVT
4:26 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting TheF1Man:
Listener, I dressed like that for halloween too...kidding haha. She's adorable.

I'm enjoying the warmth as well, it's nice to still be able to wear shorts (call me crazy).


ROFL!
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142. listenerVT
4:25 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


I kind of like the temps in the 60's for now. It has been some great weather and seeing the trees looking half bare as well as the amount of sunlight decreasing it is a bit depressing. I think I could handle this weather a bit longer. After Thanksgiving we can get into colder weather and hopefully no snow until we get closer to Christmas.


If the temps would hold, I'd be with you on waiting. Of course, once the ground freezes over we need a blanket of snow for insulation. I'd prefer snow to an ice storm, which becomes increasingly possible when it's warmer than usual. At least it perks up the spirits to go from brown landscape to white, simply because more light is reflected.
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141. listenerVT
4:21 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting TheF1Man:


I've noticed the moon tonight as well, shining perfectly clear right through the clouds! I should have taken a picture but they acted almost like a prism as varies colors spread outward. I bet if you turned off every light in every city you could see just fine tonight.


Well said!

So, as I mentioned, I'd dropped off my car to get its snow sneakers put on, right? Found out the next day that the tires we'd put into the back of the car, in wraps, were my Summer tires, as we'd never had the snows taken off! Does that make us real Vermonters? But it wasn't a wasted trip because my car was 10 days out of inspection. I'm glad they caught that! It's new enough that it passed fine, which is probably why it wasn't in the forefront of our thinking. But we're glad we could provide the day's comic relief for the auto shop! LOL!
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140. TheRasberryPatch
3:28 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:
Pattern still looks dreadful with a huge west coast trough and unfavorable -PNA. Pattern change is continued to being delayed. La Nina!


I kind of like the temps in the 60's for now. It has been some great weather and seeing the trees looking half bare as well as the amount of sunlight decreasing it is a bit depressing. I think I could handle this weather a bit longer. After Thanksgiving we can get into colder weather and hopefully no snow until we get closer to Christmas.
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139. originalLT
2:36 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Blizz, wasn't last year a La Nina year too, and that was pretty good for snow?
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138. Zachary Labe
12:56 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
Pattern still looks dreadful with a huge west coast trough and unfavorable -PNA. Pattern change is continued to being delayed. La Nina!
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137. TheRasberryPatch
12:50 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
wow looking at the pictures from Nome, AK that must have been some storm. Just like Sam the snowman said over 40 years ago...It Hit, the storm of all storms.
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136. TheRasberryPatch
12:33 PM GMT on November 11, 2011
originalLT - wow, just getting down to 45F at midnight. Here in LSV we were @ 43F most of the day. By evening it dropped to upper 30's with decreasing clouds.
0.16" of rain for the day
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134. originalLT
5:21 AM GMT on November 11, 2011
Seems now that Mike Mcqueary will NOT be coaching the game on Sat. His future is in doubt now too. Meanwhile , getting much cooler now, down to 45F , wind NNW at 8-12 mph. Baro. down to 29.56".
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133. TheRasberryPatch
8:50 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Quoting wunderstorm87:
It's ridiculous that Mike McQueary is going to be coaching on Saturday. Because he was a direct witness and did nothing, he's more guilty than Paterno by far. I guess one rule doesn't apply to everyone...


I hear you...that whole group dropped the ball. When you read the timeline it is just amazing...you really feel for the kids

MM - I don't think you can stop the game. Nebraska didn't do anything to cancel the game and the players of Penn State didn't do anything to not have a shot at the title. If the students get bad, which I seriously doubt, you can always empty the stands and play under those conditions. Security will be high and they won't allow any problems inside the stadium. If Penn State is a program that takes pride in being above all others then you hope it will be a peaceful game and tailgate.
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132. wunderstorm87
8:38 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
It's ridiculous that Mike McQueary is going to be coaching on Saturday. Because he was a direct witness and did nothing, he's more guilty than Paterno by far. I guess one rule doesn't apply to everyone...
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131. MariettaMoon
5:24 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


I think so, too. If Joe was coaching Saturday it would have taken away from the Seniors that are playing their last game at Beaver Stadium. The crowd and television audience and everyone else would be divided and it wouldn't have been a good atmosphere. Now Saturday will be all about the game.


Just so hard to wrap your head around the whole thing.

I have a hard time imagining the game being played. With the rioting etc... I'm thinking it could get pretty dangerous during game time. I think it would be a better idea to cancel it. I feel bad for the players & seniors being their last potential home game and they've had nothing to do with it, but the enormity of it far outweighs some football game.

The games make so much money for the University, but I think they need to take a hit on this one, for the sake of the children, for the sake of safety of students and others on Saturday, and for the sake of the future of Penn State.
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130. originalLT
5:05 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Wow, just saw your report TRP, my temp. has just "spiked" to 72F! I seem to be between two major cloud areas, the frontal clouds that are to my West, and clouds coming in from my East, being pushed towards me from Tropical Storm Sean. My Baro. continues to fall, down to 29.74".
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129. TheRasberryPatch
5:01 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Temperature has been dropping the last 2 hours. It is now 45F with light rain
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128. originalLT
3:29 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Surprisingly still nice here in Stamford CT. The sun is still out, but I see on Satellite that this will be short lived. Temp. is up to 66F, that's what we reached yesterday. Baro. is 29.82" and falling slowly. Wind SSE at 0-5 mph. The weather should go "down hill " from here on for the rest of the day. Showers later. LT
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127. TheRasberryPatch
1:17 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:

I just noticed the fresh snow too. I believe I checked the forecast yesterday and it said a possible 2 inches or so.

Yes it is sad. There are so many better ways they could have accomplished their goal. Unfortunate this all had to unfold that way up there, but I think it is good to get a clean house up there and start fresh; I definitely think the trustees made the right decision!


I think so, too. If Joe was coaching Saturday it would have taken away from the Seniors that are playing their last game at Beaver Stadium. The crowd and television audience and everyone else would be divided and it wouldn't have been a good atmosphere. Now Saturday will be all about the game.
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126. Zachary Labe
12:42 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
Does it look like Anchorage got a new layer of snow?

Blizz - sad to say, but Yes it is a mess up there. It's truly amazing how a certain level of students feel the need to riot when they don't like an outcome of something or to celebrate. I just don't get it.

I finally cleaned my garden yesterday. Wow, after all this time my garden is still wet. I turned the dirt and it was so clumpy. Well at least it is done. I may plant some garlic

I just noticed the fresh snow too. I believe I checked the forecast yesterday and it said a possible 2 inches or so.

Yes it is sad. There are so many better ways they could have accomplished their goal. Unfortunate this all had to unfold that way up there, but I think it is good to get a clean house up there and start fresh; I definitely think the trustees made the right decision!
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125. TheRasberryPatch
12:36 PM GMT on November 10, 2011
Does it look like Anchorage got a new layer of snow?

Blizz - sad to say, but Yes it is a mess up there. It's truly amazing how a certain level of students feel the need to riot when they don't like an outcome of something or to celebrate. I just don't get it.

I finally cleaned my garden yesterday. Wow, after all this time my garden is still wet. I turned the dirt and it was so clumpy. Well at least it is done. I may plant some garlic
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124. TheF1Man
5:23 AM GMT on November 10, 2011
Quoting listenerVT:

... Record high temperature set at Mount Mansfield VT...

A record high temperature of 58 degrees was set at Mount Mansfield
VT today. This breaks the old record of 54 degrees set in 1996.


I saw 68 on the car thermometer today, while in South Burlington, VT

It's still 58 here in Jericho at the base of Mount Mansfield, at 9pm. The moon was so bright I walked home from dropping off my car to get its snow sneakers put on. Then I'll be ready for the shift back to cold.


I've noticed the moon tonight as well, shining perfectly clear right through the clouds! I should have taken a picture but they acted almost like a prism as varies colors spread outward. I bet if you turned off every light in every city you could see just fine tonight.
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123. Zachary Labe
4:07 AM GMT on November 10, 2011
Not to be off-topic, but wow, what a mess up at Penn State. Police are in riot gear this evening on campus.
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122. listenerVT
1:56 AM GMT on November 10, 2011

... Record high temperature set at Mount Mansfield VT...

A record high temperature of 58 degrees was set at Mount Mansfield
VT today. This breaks the old record of 54 degrees set in 1996.


I saw 68 on the car thermometer today, while in South Burlington, VT

It's still 58 here in Jericho at the base of Mount Mansfield, at 9pm. The moon was so bright I walked home from dropping off my car to get its snow sneakers put on. Then I'll be ready for the shift back to cold.
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121. PhillySnow
11:49 PM GMT on November 09, 2011
Just put my houseplants back outside. They're happier out there when the weather's like this, and I gather they've got a couple more weeks.
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120. MariettaMoon
9:35 PM GMT on November 09, 2011
Ooops... Accidentally signed in under my old-old name from a few years ago (Phillyburbs)
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119. PhillyBurbsTrevosePa
9:26 PM GMT on November 09, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
That was a beautiful sunshine at the tower cam yesterday. So bright

Will the big storm have any impact on Anchorage?


Nah that storm's way north. Could get clipped with a couple snowshowers.
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