Unprecedented, Destructive October Snowstorm!

By: Zachary Labe , 6:27 PM GMT on October 28, 2011

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-NAM model 12z...Link
-GFS model 12z...Link
-NMM model 12z...Link
-SREF model 9z...Link

This is a pretty quick intro on computer model forecasts along with beneficial links. Computer models use the complex calculus algorithms to print out the forecasts. Despite our complaning with the models, without them much of us would be lost except in the short time. Some of the earlier computer models consisted of the ETA, NGM, and AVN, which forecasted generally less than 84hrs. They were highly inaccurate, but provided a basis. The ETA was actually the computer model that helped meteorologists predicted the "storm of the century" in March of 1993 so well in advance. But now more than ever we have a myriad of computer models available to the general public with many mesoscale models only available to NOAA. Lets start with the general. All current computer models are based off on the Zulu time. Zulu time is also known as UTC or Greenwich time . Generally to forecast timing of storms my special BUFKIT data transitions UTC time to EST time, which is helpful. But BUFKIT is a special download, which I won't get into, but the transition is helpful as for some reason I never am able to understand time zones too well, hahaha. Anyways let me start with each computer model...

-GFS (Mentioned most of all as it is a global model (Global Forecasting System))
~Available in 0z (initiates at 10:30pm), 6z (initiates at 4:30am), 12z (10:30am), 18z (4:30pm)
~Forecasts out to 384hrs
~Typical biases
Cold bias on long range on 18z run
6z and 18z slightly unreliable
Northwest trend on lows within 84hrs of event

-ECMWF (This is another global model run by an international organization (European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts))
~Available in 0z (initiates at 1:30am), 12z (initiates at 1:30pm)
~Forecasts out to 240hrs
~Typical biases
Overphases lows in 168hr range
Holds too much energy in southwest
Known as extremely accurate within 140hrs

-NAM (Mesoscale short range model)
~Available in 0z (Initiates at 9:30pm), 6z (Initiates at 3:30am), 12z (initiates at 9:30am), 18z (Initiates at 3:30pm)
~Forecasts out to 84hrs
~Typical biases
Highly inaccurate towards the 84hrs
Handles coastal storms very well and southwest overrunning events
Tendency for way too much QPF

Those three above are the most common models for a beginner in computer models, but there are many more. All of the global models consistent of ensemble models also, such as the GFS has a myriad of ensemble (small models) that create a mean solution known as GEFS. They typically are too cold and southeast with low pressures, but some reason the NWS seems to enjoy using them. There are also more global models than the GFS and ECMWF... The UKMET is run by an internation organization and forecasts out to 144hrs. This model typically comes out an hr before the ECMWF and usually is pretty similar to the ECMWF. The ECMWF may also be known as the EURO by the way. There is also a Canadian model known as the GGEM/CMC, which again contains ensemble models. All of the internation models only run 0z and 12z runs. This is probably for the best as all models only receive new upper air data in 0z and 12z runs, so this is why the American model runs of the 6z and 18z are usually worthless. There is also a high resolution Canadian model known as the RGEM, which is very similar to the American NAM. High resolution (mesoscale models) are important as they usually are able to pick up on fine details such as frontogenesis, advection, adebiatic cooling, convection, etc. Some of this high resolution models include the WRF, HIRES NMM, RUC, ARW. They all are usually very accurate, but the WRF and HIRES NMM usually have wet bias.

As mentioned above there are ensemble models which come up with a mean solution instead of using one computer model's algorithms like the global models use. These ensemble mean solution are known as the MREF and SREF with MREF being in the medium range and SREF in the short range. SREF is usually pretty accurate and forecasts within 87hrs of an event. There are also other computer models used for hurricane forecasting, but I will not get into them. For instance one is the GFDL, which you may have heard of. I find I use mainly the GFS, NAM, and WRF/NMM in the summer, but use all of the models in the winter.

A few models to avoid...
JMA
KMA
CAMPASS
DGEX

Here is a list of links for explanations on how to interperate the models...

-PennState E Wall, which runs all of the models
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ewall.html

-PennState E Wall tutorial on computer models (Check it out)
http://www.personal.psu.edu/adb241/eWallTutorial/ Main.htm

-Severe Weather parameters used on models, explanation
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/sgf/n=severe_weather_chec klist_paper

-Forecasting winter weather
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/soo/docu/precip_type. php

-NCEP; used to find American Computer models
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/

-Severe Weather Models
http://www.wxcaster.com//conus_0012_us_models.htm

-Winter Weather Models
http://www.wxcaster.com/conus_snowfall.htm

-Model Soundings
http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample.shtml?te xt=KMDT#

The last link is listed above as model soundings which takes all of the data to print out all sorts of information including precipitation type along with dynamics such as Omega. This is very complex and takes some time getting used to. Also you may see this data instead of in charts, it is sometimes used in SKEWT T charts.

I hope all of this information helped out... Keep in mind precipitation amounts is QPF, with 500mb aloft being the jet stream, 700mb aloft measuring relative humidity, 850mb aloft measuring 5,000ft aloft temperatures, 925-1000mb measuring surface temperatures. Generally I would look at the GFS and NAM first to get a hang of it along with reading the tutorial links. Use the 850mb and 2m charts for the GFS especially as they are pretty self explanatory and color coded. You will find some maps for international models are confusing and black and white.

Lower Susquehanna Valley Doppler...

(Courtesy of WGAL)

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Historic October Nor'easter...
Higher cirrus will begin to flood the northern Middle Atlantic later in the day Friday after high temperatures in the mid 40s with partly cloudy skies. Clouds will begin to thicken and lower Friday night with precipitation moving northward as a 1000hPa coastal low pressure moves up the coast. The low pressure will follow an ideal track up and along the coast and if it were winter... this would be a major snowstorm for all of the Northeast including towards the coast. But given climatological means during late October, snow will only fall in certain locations well to the northwest. Precipitation will move northward as rain into Virginia and Maryland Friday night and move up into southern Pennsylvania also as rain. Evaporational cooling will begin as 2m temperatures fall to near dewpoint values late Friday night changing over to snow for southern Pennsylvania particularily for elevations above 800ft with a rain/snow mix in the valleys.

As the low begins to intensify further, a deformation axis will likely form well to the west of the center of circulation. The placement of this axis is key to the snow accumulation region as it will bring cold air down the surface in the form of dynamic cooling. Given the low track this axis is likely to form in eastern Pennsylvania up through central New England. Saturday will feature well below normal highs withs highs not reaching 40 as far south as Washington DC. Precipitation will intensify during the day. Ground temperatures initially in the 40s and marginal boundary layer temperatures will keep the highest accumulations in the higher elevations with several inches possible above 200ft (perhaps up to 12in as far south as South Mountain, Pennsylvania). Elsewhere valley locations can also expect some light snow accumulation as far south as northern Maryland. For the I-95 corridor, a mix of rain and snow is likely with no accumulation. Snow accumulations up through New England are likely 4-7in for the valleys and 8-14in for the higher elevations. I could even envision higher amounts given the strength of the deformation axis. Total QPF printout from guidance such as the ECMWF and GEFS suggest 1.0in-2.0in across the entire Northeast.

Most of the snow will fall during the day Saturday. If timing were a bit more favorable such as Saturday night, this would have been a potentially record breaking, rare October snow event.

Given the high leaf foliage in some areas, the combination of wet snow will cause major tree damage in some locations especially in eastern Pennsylvania. Power outages are possible. Snow ratios will be near 6/7:1 with rates up to 0.5in/hr at times. Given the heavier snow rates at times, even areas with boundary layer temperatures at 34-35F may see a quick accumulation.

I want to raise a few critical points...

1) Current ground temperatures really have little to do with snow accumulation when rates fall above 0.5in/hr. Snow can accumulate even on roads. The sun angle in late October is like mid February and has little impact. Combine this with marginal temperatures, cloud cover, and heavy snow rates this will cause snow to accumulate very easily after the initial lighter snow.

2) The biggest concern is the trees which I have been hyping for the last 24hrs. Snow accumulations possibly over 10in in some areas of south-central Pennsylvania up through New England could bring devastation to trees. The heaviness of the wet snow on foliage is a disaster. And looking a records, this has never happened before in many areas!

3) I-95 is a tough forecast and is dependent on exact low track. But given the dynamics of this storm which may cause even thundersnow, the big cities should all change to snow at some point.

4) Given the time of year, water temperatures are very warm and the temperature gradient and the natural baroclinicity along the coast will cause the storm to rapidly undergo bombogenesis with very unusual mesoscale features. This will cause some areas to see rapidly high QPF totals.

Selected City Accumulations for the Northeast...
Hagerstown, MD- Rain/snow then heavy snow. Accumulations 5-12in
Baltimore, MD- Rain changing to snow. Accumulations up to 4in especially the higher hills.
Salisbury, MD- Mostly rain with a trace of snow
Pittsburgh, PA- Rain/snow then snow. Accumulations 2-4in
State College PA- Moderate snow. 5-7in
Williamsport, PA- Heavy snow. Accumulations 5-10in
Altoona, PA- Moderate snow. Accumulations 5-7in
Harrisburg, PA- Heavy snow. Snow accumulations 6-14in
Lancaster, PA- Heavy snow. Snow accumulations 6-13in
Philadelphia, PA- Rain/snow changing to snow. Accumulations 1-3in+
Allentown, PA- Heavy snow. Snow accumulations 6-14in
Scranton, PA- Heavy snow. Snow accumulations 6-12in
Washington, DC- Rain changing to rain/snow. Spotty 1-3in accumulations are possible
Wilmington, DE- Rain changing to rain/snow. Spotty 1-4in accumulations are possible
Dover, DE- Rain changing to rain/snow with trace accumulations
Trenton, NJ- Rain/snow changing to snow. Accumulations 2-4in
New York City, NY- Rain/snow changing to snow. Accumulations 1-6in depending on location.
Poughkeepsie, NY- Heavy snow. Accumulations 5-10in
Binghamton, NY- Light snow. Accumulations 3-6in
Ithaca, NY- Light snow. Accumulations 2-4in
Albany, NY-Moderate snow. Accumulations 4-8in
Hartford, CT- Rain/snow changing to heavy snow. Accumulations 4-7in
Concord, NH- Heavy snow. Accumulations 5-10in
Providence, RI- Rain changing to rain/snow. Spotty 1-3in accumulations
Worcester, MA- Heavy snow. Snow accumulations 6-13in
Boston, MA- Rain/snow with spotty accumulations 1-3in
Nantucket, MA- Heavy rain and high winds up to 60mph
Hyannis, MA- Heavy rain and gale force winds in excess of 60mph
Portland, ME- Heavy snow. Accumulations 4-9in
Bangor, ME- Heavy snow. Accumulations 6-12in
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Saw a Facebook picture from Shippensburg, roads are covered!!!
Member Since: December 15, 2007 Posts: 19 Comments: 987
Quoting Blizzard92:
Everyone notice how quickly it started laying?! Don't let anyone ever tell you it cannot stick because it is too warm the previous day or because of the time of year. Snow rates can overcome pretty much anything.


That is amazing. Most times it seems like it takes a time to get the snow to stick
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Quoting CapeCoralStorm:


Pardon my ignorance blizz, im still new around here.. What/where is LSV?


LSV - Lower Susquehanna Valley - South Central PA

Snow, about an inch on the ground. My road is starting to get covered. Grass, trees and sidewalks and all else is covered
temp 32.5F dewpt 31.7F

Campbelltown, PA just east of Hershey
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Quoting CapeCoralStorm:


My wife just called from Claymont and said the same thing. I find it interesting because abc6 news this morning said the mixing wouldnt begin until around 3pm and no snow until around 8pm. It seems to be happening much earlier. Is the storm moving faster, or is it getting bigger and maybe be a longer snow event then forecast?


I think the bolded part is the case. Blizz does Dynamic cooling play a part in the storm?
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Greensburg, PA - 3-4inches have fallen, grass covered, my road in town is covered(penndot must have watch local weather haha) some trees are starting to get weighed down, especially my neighbors tree, which is right in the power lines... Blizz how much longer should this band be over us??
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Quoting CapeCoralStorm:


Pardon my ignorance blizz, im still new around here.. What/where is LSV?
Lower Susquehanna Valley
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Quoting weathergeek5:
Sleeting in Wilmington now.


My wife just called from Claymont and said the same thing. I find it interesting because abc6 news this morning said the mixing wouldnt begin until around 3pm and no snow until around 8pm. It seems to be happening much earlier. Is the storm moving faster, or is it getting bigger and maybe be a longer snow event then forecast?
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Quoting Blizzard92:

Yep, look at the returns on the WGAL radar moving northward. LSV is going to get slammed with 2in/hr rates today! Maybe thundersnow?


Pardon my ignorance blizz, im still new around here.. What/where is LSV?
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Sleeting in Wilmington now.
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Everyone notice how quickly it started laying?! Don't let anyone ever tell you it cannot stick because it is too warm the previous day or because of the time of year. Snow rates can overcome pretty much anything.
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Be careful MM, driving in those conditions and going up in altitude can be very dangerous. Maybe you should hold off till Sunday.
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Quoting MariettaMoon:
Drove from Lancaster PA to Allentown PA on my way to the Poconos yesterday evening and decided to turn around at Allentown and drive to Trenton NJ to wait for my wife today. Didn't want her to drive to the Poconos in this, she was very nervous. I'm at a Barnes & Noble in Moorestown NJ (Near Mount Laurel, soutern NJ) waiting for to get out at noon, then we're driving to the high elevation Poconos. That ought to be fun!

Here in Moorestown NJ, rain began mixing with snow at around 8:15am here, then sleet/rain mix at 8:56am, then rain/snow mix by 9:15am with large flakes. No accumulations. 37F


How'd you end up in Moorestown? That's about 12 miles away from me.
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Snow covering grass very quickly in Camp Hill and falling heavily.
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Lawn is pretty much covered now...just the green tips of the grass poking out. Roads are just wet. Still getting heavy snow, big flakes.
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Quoting Mason803:
big bands to the south of pa ready to push in. already trees down just west of me. snowplow just salted the road

blizz_ can we expect most of our snow from a deform setting up as high res. models show?

Yep, look at the returns on the WGAL radar moving northward. LSV is going to get slammed with 2in/hr rates today! Maybe thundersnow?
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Perfect morning. Sitting on the living room couch with my 3 yr old daughter on my lap,watching spongebob, and staring out the sliding glass door patiently waiting for snow...
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Fat heavy flakes! Is this for real? My puppy's first snowfall. He wants to run and play in it and is enjoying eating it. A very decent steady snow since at least 7am when I got up to take Ollie out. Snow beginning to accumulate on the road.
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Drove from Lancaster PA to Allentown PA on my way to the Poconos yesterday evening and decided to turn around at Allentown and drive to Trenton NJ to wait for my wife today. Didn't want her to drive to the Poconos in this, she was very nervous. I'm at a Barnes & Noble in Moorestown NJ (Near Mount Laurel, soutern NJ) waiting for to get out at noon, then we're driving to the high elevation Poconos. That ought to be fun!

Here in Moorestown NJ, rain began mixing with snow at around 8:15am here, then sleet/rain mix at 8:56am, then rain/snow mix by 9:15am with large flakes. No accumulations. 37F
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big bands to the south of pa ready to push in. already trees down just west of me. snowplow just salted the road

blizz_ can we expect most of our snow from a deform setting up as high res. models show?
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Sounds good Blizz, I hope that includes me in Stamford CT!--Still nothing here, 41F Baro. 30.09F slowly, NNW winds 2-7mph.
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Quoting CapeCoralStorm:
Light steady rain with light wind in New Castle,DE temp is about 38*...


So um... Will I get in on the snow today?


I am in Wilmington de. I am patiently waiting for the snow too. I did notice pellets of sleet falling.
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Looks like NYC and Philadelphia up through Boston may see a bit more snow than I expected, perhaps 3-7in and maybe more for northern burbs.
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snow now mixing with rain in Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia, elevation 400 feet, visible in the air and on car windshields. Way earlier than I expected.
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Light steady rain with light wind in New Castle,DE temp is about 38*...


So um... Will I get in on the snow today?
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36F heavy rain in Bellmawr, NJ, suburban Philadelphia
How long do I have until changeover?

UPDATE: Nevermind! As soon as I posted that comment the rain started mixing with snow, lol. Currently rain/sleet/snow right now.
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Quoting CapeCoralStorm:



wut.

- stands for light
RN stands for rain
SN stands for snow

So it means light rain/snow mix
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Quoting Blizzard92:
METAR KMDT 291256Z VRB04KT 4SM -RASN BR OVC010 02/01 A3007 RMK AO2 SNB54 CIG 007V011 SLP187 P0006 T00220011



wut.
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terra alta (preston county wv) just under 3000ft reported 10" of snow. most i've seen saw far
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snow is covering everything except the roads
32.9F with dewpt of 31.9F
Campbelltown, PA just east of Hershey
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Quoting Blizzard92:
Heavy bands funneling into the lower susquehanna valley. Look out folks!


heavy band over Piitsburgh, PA also moving east
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Big flakes.
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Heavy snow coming down in Lawnton, just East of Harrisburg. Should be an interesting day.

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148. bwi
LWX morning discussion talks about warm water from the Chesapeake Bay helping keep air temps up east of I95. They also mentioned a NAM update that may be causing a warm bias, and that the balloon from IAD showed temps warmer than NAM but colder than GFS. Their snow map has shifted west some, and we're back in the trace-1" range. We'll see.

38 degrees and steady rain in Greenbelt/Beltsville Maryland area.
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Heavy bands funneling into the lower susquehanna valley. Look out folks!
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Switched over to all snow just east of Harrisburg, PA. Big flakes, coming straight down. Looks like I'm staying put this morning. I might be able to get to Lancaster, but getting back to Hbg. this afternoon might be problematic. I don't have a reliable thermometer at the moment, but it looks to be around 36F.
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Blizz, that simulated radar looks brutal for ushere in the Worcester area! It is 32 degrees and dropping here already in Sutton.
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Full changeover has taken place......BIG huge flakes....coming down hard right now in Fishing Creek Valley (just north of Linglestown)!!!
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looks like I'll be deicing and antiicing here on our next departure.
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All snow.
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PhillySnow, thanks for asking, the answer is no, as of now, we have an electrition coming by later today. We did get 2 space heaters from a friend, and they are helping alot. Hopefully, he'll get it fixed--seems to be an electrical problem, not a problem with the furnace itself(I hope!).
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Snow and temp continuing to fall 33.4F with dewpt of 32.1F
Campbelltown, PA just east of Hershey
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Snow beginning to take over...
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METAR KMDT 291256Z VRB04KT 4SM -RASN BR OVC010 02/01 A3007 RMK AO2 SNB54 CIG 007V011 SLP187 P0006 T00220011
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Quoting originalLT:
Here by me, it's 40.5F, cloudy, just virga over me, Baro 30.10F, winds NNW 5mph. Low over night was 39F. Locals here projecting 2-4" in my area 35 miles NE of NYC, 4 miles inland. LT Stamford CT.


Is your heat back on, LT?
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Kids are about ready to play soccer in a 1/2 hour the field is covered here in SW PA---roads are fine but there must of been a few snow related accidents in Pittsburgh--I279
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Still light rain, 36f.
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seeing a few flakes mixing in with the rain at the airport.
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All snow now...temps 34.7F with dewpt of 33.4F
Campbelltown, PA just east of Hershey
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Here by me, it's 40.5F, cloudy, just virga over me, Baro 30.10F, winds NNW 5mph. Low over night was 39F. Locals here projecting 2-4" in my area 35 miles NE of NYC, 4 miles inland. LT Stamford CT.
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the town of south mountain in eastern franklin county reported 1.1" of snow @ 7am ob
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Quoting Blizzard92:
Look at this monster!

Simulated radar later today...



i hope that verifies!! snow has slacked here

temp holding steady at 32f
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Elevation: 520 ft
Temperature: 24.2 °F
Dew Point: 15.2 °F
Humidity: 68%
Wind: Calm
Wind Gust: 9.0 mph
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