Historic Central Appalachian Flooding?

By: Zachary Labe , 12:18 AM GMT on September 05, 2011

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It has been a little over two weeks since I left the realms of my comfort zone to begin on a new journey. I am sitting here looking out the window at a completely new landscape separate from anything I have seen before. (A very hot dorm room might I add, ugh!). Actually it is quite funny, so far the weather here has been very benign and abnormally warm for Ithaca standards. All of the exciting weather is back home in Harrisburg after over a foot of rain in August! So far my journey is just beginning. Classes have begun. Reality has set in. This is not going to be easy. Through most all of high school I was able to breeze through classes with little outside work. Things came easy. Studying was not really at all necessary for my success. But when you take a group of exceptionally different students and put them together, you are given a very different solution to the equation. While I have only been in my classes for a week; Basic Principles of Meteorology, Meteorology Lab 1, Forecast Competition, Calculus I, Sustainable Energy Systems Writing Seminar, Astronomy 101... it is already evident the amount of work required for success. Coming from a situation where my studying and work habits were mainly confined to small time periods, I had to immediately begin to focus on a new organization technique for time management.

I have already find myself in a relative set routine featuring classes most of the day with time intervals in between filled with studying and working on homework in one of our 19 libraries. My day outside of my dorm during the workweek is from 730am to usually 9pm. It is a long day, but I find myself accomplishing quite a bit. So far I am actually ahead of schedule for long term assignments hopefully overcoming some of my previous procrastinating tendencies. I guess one thing that makes it is easier is that everyone generally is fully motivated here to the max. The libraries are jammed from 7am to 2am the next day with barely a seat to find. A majority of the people I have met here are very concerned with their work load and finding successful ways of completion. They are also interested in the subject and a simple conversation here could quickly lead to something advanced such as the linear ratio of people entering the auditorium in a 15 minute time interval (yes true story, lol). Actually I times some people to get too analytic especially mathematically, and I find myself having to pull away from the conversation, lol.

My meteorology classes are superb and so are the associated professors. Once again I am solidified in making the right choices for my passion. The atmospheric sciences majors are a close group of people fortunately, although I must say I was a tad disappointed to find no one else quite sharing my obsessive love for the weather. And yes, already all the people on my dorm floor are asking for the weather forecast each day, haha. I also entered a forecast competition for the semester against all of the atmospheric science majors, so I guess we'll see I really am any good.

The transition here is still just in its beginning stages. The entire atmosphere of Cornell is superb with the architectural wonders of the buildings to being perched on the top of a small plateau overlooking endless mountains, Ithaca, and Lake Cayuga. The elevation of the University is generally 850-950ft, while the town of Ithaca is about 300ft. There in nothing better than walking back to the dorm from the Libraries right around dusk as the sun lights up the sky at dusk with brilliant reds and oranges against the mountainous terrain and deep gorges/waterfalls here while listening to songs ring off the clock tower bell. Everyday I find myself meeting people from all of the world which I think has been the most interesting of all anywhere from Vancouver, Canada to Singapore to North Korea to South Africa to Ukraine. And I am definitely taking advantage of this cultural mosaic of people asking many questions and discovering all different types of beliefs across the globe. There are many challenges I am still facing and learning to deal with under this new gained independence. I still am in the process of meeting people here. Socially, I am very outgoing and I try to get to know everyone... But I just cannot find 'that' group of friends yet. I suppose in time, I will just know when I find them. The road ahead is not parallel, but I will get there in time.

"Synoptic Setup"
A very complex weather situation is unfolding this week across the Middle Atlantic as a cold front advances slowly this region Sunday and Monday while stalling just south of the region as a stationary boundary. This boundary will be the focus of a multi-day heavy rain event. Currently a warm, anomalous southwest flow with 1000-500mb height thicknesses near 575mb and H85s temperatures near +19C are allowing hot 2m surface temperatures across the region during the past few days. Parts of Virginia and Maryland were in the upper 90s on Saturday and other areas were around 90F with dew points all above 70F making for relatively high heat indices. The combined heat and humidity has even been quite impressive well up through upstate New York. Meanwhile a cold front with a much cooler and drier air mass is trying to work south across the region.

Meanwhile Tropical Storm Lee continues to slowly churn in the Gulf of Mexico and across southern Louisiana. Currently steering currents are pretty weak, but eventually the prevailing westerlies will allow Lee to be swept northeastward in the flow. Current GEFS guidance and other global models support a track along the stationary boundary. The question is where the stationary boundary sets up. That area will then be of highest hydrology concern.

None the less, MUCAPE values around 500 j/kg with elevated instability will support complexes of thunderstorms Sunday night slowly moving to the northeast. Storms will be training such as below...

With the loss of daytime heating, thunderstorms will begin to weaken although a few could remain severe with heightened wind shear and helicity values across Pennsylvania and New York. Wind damage will be an isolated threat.

PWATs near +SD around 1.8in will continue to feed heavy rain through much of Sunday night across the entire Middle Atlantic from Virginia to New York on northward and southward. Tropical moisture will promote heavy downpours with GFS/NAM QPF values ranging from 1-1.5in region wide, although precipitation trends generally will be convective with some areas receiving up to 3in in favored training thunderstorm locations. Soil moisture anomalies remain relatively high across the entire region especially for eastern locations affected by Hurricane Irene where localized totals of 8in occurred.

A strong right rear entrance jet will highlight a focused area of heavy rain on Monday along the nearly stationary boundary. Location remains a bit uncertain by areas in northern Maryland, southern Pennsylvania east to New Jersey appear to be favored in this heightened area of frontogenesis. Rainfall rates of .25in+/hr are possible. QPF totals in excess of 1in are possible. Elsewhere scattered showers will give basin wide totals of around .25in or so. Cooler air will funnel into much of the region despite the tropical moisture with temperatures falling into the 60s and 70s region-wide.

Meanwhile towards Tuesday through Thursday uncertainty remains on to the effects of Tropical Storm Lee and Hurricane Katia. It appears according to latest guidance that Lee's remnants will move along the stationary boundary providing high tropical moisture training up the east coast. The latest 9/5/2011 18z GFS supports this hypothesis along with a semi correspondence with the NAM. The ECMWF is bit drier while the NAM is a bit farther south with the heavy rain axis than the GFS. It does appear though someone along the east coast will see a concentrated area of localized heavy rain with a weekly surplus rainfall total of over 6in.

This heavy rain coupled with the very wet ground and high watershed values will support a risk of moderate to major flooding in some areas. Currently favored are the mountainous areas and the ridges on the eastern side of the Appalachians which will see enhanced totals from the easterly flow and associated orographic lift. Timing will remain difficult to forecast this week for precipitation components due to the number of vortices spinning across the region. It appears Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night, and Wednesday may feature the timing of the heaviest rains with breaks in between, but that all still remains uncertain. The remnants of Lee and interaction of the advancing shortwaves along the stationary boundary should promote Hurricane Katia to remain offshore, but increased surf and beach erosion is possible along the east coast due to the close proximity she will travel. The influence of the two tropical systems and front may promote even higher enhanced rainfall across somewhere along the East Coast almost in a predecessor rain event PRE type manner. Right now those with concerns of flooding in their region need to monitor forecasts and radar closely this week. Not everyone will see the heavy rain totals as the event is more convective than stratiform in nature with highly concentrated heavy rain areas making the county warning forecast area very difficult this week. Best idea is to monitor latest trends and high resolution guidance.

Main idea is that heavy rain will be common in the Northeast much of this week with widespread clouds and tropical moisture under cool temperatures in the 60s and 70s. Flooding is possible. Drier air and seasonable temperatures will move into the region towards the weekend with sunshine hopefully drying things out once again as we complete the first full week of September. Looking ahead looks like near normal temperatures continuing the very wet pattern though unfortunately. Stay tuned.

"Soil Moisture Anomalies and 5-day Precipitation Amounts from Hydro Prediction Center"


"12hr Estimated Precipitation"


"Flooding Links"
-Automated Pennsylvania Rainfall Recording Stations...Link
-Flash Flooding Guidance...Link
-HPC Forecasts for Excessive Rainfall...Link
-Hydrology Predictions for Lakes, Rivers, and Streams...Link

Lower Susquehanna Valley Doppler...

(Courtesy of WGAL)

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172. shipweather
4:52 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Moon, Marietta is turning off utilities and there will be a curfew. Crazy stuff.
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171. MariettaMoon
4:44 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Wow, just heard Harrisburg is only 4" away from the record for a year. It's September 8th!!! There is 3.75 months left in the year!
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170. TheRasberryPatch
4:41 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
I just watched John Scalia...I forgot how good he is at explaining things. He talked and showed graphics for a good 5 - 10 mins.
He had a graphic of the amount of rain the past day or so and his graphic ran out of color for the heaviest areas - which runs right through my house.
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169. TheRasberryPatch
4:32 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:

I see how it is, doubting me I see, hahaha. Pretty impressive and many areas received the same totals as Agnes!


Well after last winter...well I uh...uh...I uh..hahahahaha...j/k.

I just didn't expect historical rains. you didn't hype or push the panic button. If I would have seen a red light blinking, maybe
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168. TheRasberryPatch
4:30 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:

I see how it is, doubting me I see, hahaha. Pretty impressive and many areas received the same totals as Agnes!


It's just mindboggling the amount of rain we have gotten the past few days. We have had heavy rain for 20 mins or so and are astounded, but to have rain like that for hours and hours.
I was up all night vacuuming a small hole that was leaking from under my basement wall. Right near the sump pump basin, but it trickled away from it. I bought some sandbags to keep it at bay for a few mins. I would vacuum up the puddle every 15 mins. I talked to a contractor and he said it isn't anything wrong with my walls and I don't need to have it waterproofed. He said the ground is so saturated that it has no place to go. It was just a small bubbling of water.

So over 11" of rain for August and now almost 13" since Sunday.

I installed my new Davis the end of July and it has recorded over 25" of rain.
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167. Zachary Labe
4:12 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
Blizz - when you mentioned the high rain amounts the other day, I just blew it off...thinking so we get a few inches of rain. I never thought we would have historic rain for the area. I just didn't think we would have this much rain all day and night.

I see how it is, doubting me I see, hahaha. Pretty impressive and many areas received the same totals as Agnes!
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166. TheRasberryPatch
4:01 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Quoting wunderstorm87:
The Swatara creek is now forecast to exceed its record by 11 feet. So basically the creek is exceeding its record by more than the moderate flood stage of 10 feet.


I would guess the water has to be coming over the bridge at rt 39.
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165. MariettaMoon
3:57 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Getting ahead of myself here, but TS Nate in the Gulf & TS Maria in the Atlantic may be worth keeping an eye on for our area.
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164. shipweather
3:57 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Just got to a hotel. I was on the Market Street bridge as they closed it. Mayor Thompson of Harrisburg is basically evacuating everyone on Front and all the way back to 2nd street. The water has obviously taken over City Island. It was just below the bridge there. Shipoke was busy but the water hadn't quite reached over the bank. It was sneaking around the back yet. I'll say again I'm glad I have a 10th floor Apartment.
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163. wunderstorm87
3:51 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
The Swatara creek is now forecast to exceed its record by 11 feet. So basically the creek is exceeding its record by more than the moderate flood stage of 10 feet.
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162. originalLT
3:24 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Oh, sun out now. Hey, MM that was quite a story, glad you are OK, and only out a half a tank of gas.
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161. originalLT
3:22 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
My total rain over night was 1.30". The total rain for this whole event has been, so far, 5.60". LT Stamford, CT.--(Nothing compared to you guys though!)
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160. TheRasberryPatch
3:19 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Blizz - when you mentioned the high rain amounts the other day, I just blew it off...thinking so we get a few inches of rain. I never thought we would have historic rain for the area. I just didn't think we would have this much rain all day and night.
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159. TheRasberryPatch
3:12 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
The rain has stopped for now. 1.82" of rain since midnight. Most of that was between midnight and 4am.

I was watching TV and they showed 322 @ 39. It's amazing what the road looks like.
Yesterday, I passed a large sinkhole on 422 just east of the bowling alley in Palmyra. about a block from the last sinkhole there on 422
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158. MariettaMoon
3:04 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Historical Susquehanna @ Marietta Crests
(1) 64.54 ft on 06/23/1972
(2) 62.70 ft on 09/10/2011 forecast
(2) 60.73 ft on 03/19/1936
(3) 58.30 ft on 06/02/1889
(4) 56.80 ft on 01/21/1996
(5) 56.27 ft on 09/19/2004
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157. MariettaMoon
2:54 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
The latest storm total report from PWS 6.75 mi to my NNW.

Elizabethtown College PA: 13.81"
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156. Zachary Labe
2:43 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Updated river forecast for Susquehanna at Harrisburg... now 29ft!
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155. MariettaMoon
2:37 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
I've heard of 4 fatalities in the area so far. In one case, a man was trying to get water out of his basement when the walls collapsed down on him. Sad...
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154. MariettaMoon
2:35 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Quoting Blizzard92:

Essentially this is worst case scenario. Although really everything has gone according to forecast for the LSV at least. This band did not make it as far west as guidance suggested, but rain amounts are what were forecast for much of the Susquehanna Valley. I have been telling my parents back home 8-12in of rain and while days ago that seemed extreme, it is now definitely a reality. Crazy!


I give you credit for sticking to your guns and raising early awareness regarding this event. I was seeing it as a fairly heavy rain event at that time, rather than catastrophic. I didn't fully grasp onto it or believe in it until Wednesday morning.
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153. MariettaMoon
2:29 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
So here was my morning...

Left at 6:30am for work, which is typically a 25 minute drive southeast, and could net get out of the area. After turning around many times to flooded out roads, finally made my way northwest to Elizabethtown. Called work at that point at 7:10am and said I can't make it to work (supposed to be in at 7am) and that I'm farther away than when I started! Decided to head to Millersville down I-283 when it started pouring cats & dogs again. Got off my exit and came across many more road closures and rivers running through yards running over roads and took all kinds of detours into the middle of nowhere. Somehow made it to Millersville around 8:15 am, only to discover school had closed for the day, ugh! Had no clue how I got to school in the first place, so tried heading home and I must have turned around 10 times and ended up getting kind of lost north of Route 30 in the middle of nowhere & farm roads. At one point, a torrent of deep & wide water was running across the road as high as the street sign and ramming into a house. At another spot, an old covered bridge was being lashed by a creek turned raging river. Somehow I made my way back home by way of Elizabethtown and arrived at 9:50 am. Drove 3 hours and 20 minutes non-stop and ate up a half tank of gas for no reason!

Stopped down at the river bank here to see the water level. The level has reached the front curb at McCleary's Public House on Front St where I believe the worst of the flooding in this town might occur. I found out from the locals that water breaching the height of the railroad tracks is not the issue. What happens is that the river backs up the towns drainage system and water flows up and out of the storm drains once the river reaches a certain level. Hurricane Agnes in 1972 is the measuring stick for flooding around here when the water level reached here on Market St, 2 streets up the hill from Front St. Lots of homes & a few businesses between Market St. & Front St.
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152. goofyrider
2:19 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
We are over 1 inch so far since 0300 on the 6th.
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151. MariettaMoon
2:14 PM GMT on September 08, 2011
Wow. Wunderground radar estimates 12" for Marietta and that doesn't include the entire storm. I've also noticed in the past a tendency for the estimate to be a little under what actually fell at times so who knows...
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The Swatara Creek at Hershey was forecast to go 4 feet above the record and now it's almost 10 feet above the record and still rapidly rising. The band was supposed to slip west but it ended up staying over the same place.

The worst of the band missed me to my east both this morning and yesterday...I'm only up to 9.67" with .83" since midnight in northern Dauphin county.
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Still raining. Roads are flooded and some closed; some regional rail lines down, some school closures. Amazing - can you imagine if this was snow?

Hope your home is doing ok, Shipweather!

I've got a good rain gauge now, but I've been out of town so didn't start measuring at the beginning. I'd love to know the total here for this multi-day deluge. Does anyone know a good site for finding local rainfall amounts?
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We're up to 5.65" for the storm total here in Brooklyn as we've had 1.25" since midnight. At the moment we're getting a nice break and it looks to last much of the day until the heavy bands in eastern PA and Maryland eventually make their way over here.
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Quoting originalLT:
Hi The F1Man, yeah we had "decent" numbers--3.80" on Tues and about .50" on Wed., but compared to Central and Eastern Pa. and Central NY, and all along that huge N/S area of rain, we've gotten off pretty easy. LT Stamford CT.(Some T.Storms about, outside now)


Thanks for the update, That's still a fair amount on already saturated grounds. At least Irene didn't do as much damage to central PA and NY like it did to us otherwise there'd be 20" totals in 1 week! Not sure how far west her rain got though.
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River is juuuuust below the bank here in Harrisburg, but it will start to fill over very soon. Should be onto the path on Front Street in no time. I can't believe the river in the basement.
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Wow, water rushing through the basement here. Going to have to leave. Like now.
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Looks like Moon is off the scope he reported conditions were getting bad.
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Just heard the 322 ramp at 39 collapsed!

Swatara Creek at Hershey is well over the previous historic crest!
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There is another massive rain band set up right here. I'm glad I got a hotel for tonight. This is such a mess. I can't believe it.
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Check out my Facebook page for links to videos of the flooded Cornell gorges pretty wild. Campus is closed until at least 11am due to county wide ban on driving I guess from flooding. Still though nothing at all up here like it is down in the Harrisburg area.

Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
I just saw flood stages on Susquehanna...Harrisburg will crest at 28.5 and Marietta is 62.5. We get more heavy rain it could get above those numbers. Looking at Agnes stage now

That is incredible. I never thought I would see levels rival Agnes in a very long time.
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I just saw flood stages on Susquehanna...Harrisburg will crest at 28.5 and Marietta is 62.5. We get more heavy rain it could get above those numbers. Looking at Agnes stage now
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I just emptied my Cocorahs - 7.50"

what a long night. I hope the rain stops.

12.63" of rain since Sunday evening and it is still raining
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Well, I got involved last night. Had some significant torrents around 4am, very dramatic light show and obnoxious thunder. Power briefly went out, has since been restored. News is reporting significant flooding in Philly. I-76 ramp to Philadelphia Zoo is completely washed out.
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Since Sunday evening I have gotten 11.27" of rain and still looks like more to come.
Since Wednesday morning I have gotten 5.60" of rain.

I have had rain everyday since Friday Sept. 2

Looks like the train just wants to stay over my area. UGH the rain is so heavy.
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Hi The F1Man, yeah we had "decent" numbers--3.80" on Tues and about .50" on Wed., but compared to Central and Eastern Pa. and Central NY, and all along that huge N/S area of rain, we've gotten off pretty easy. LT Stamford CT.(Some T.Storms about, outside now)
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Very bad in Pine Grove. Numerous water rescues. People in the water and no boats! Scanner is full of emergency personel who sound as though they are panicking.
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Hey all, hope you're houses are holding up okay! I know you'll hate me, but nothing has really moved into MASS, it's been pretty much a constant mist. When I talked to my parents earlier they said it rained yesterday, I'm sure LT has a decent number for SW CT.

When will the sun be back? I didn't bring winter clothes to school yet Lol.
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Quoting Blizzard92:

Essentially this is worst case scenario. Although really everything has gone according to forecast for the LSV at least. This band did not make it as far west as guidance suggested, but rain amounts are what were forecast for much of the Susquehanna Valley. I have been telling my parents back home 8-12in of rain and while days ago that seemed extreme, it is now definitely a reality. Crazy!
Yea, my coworkers thought I was crazy when I said 6-10in of rain for the camp hill area but I might actually verify 0_o That really is insane levels of rain for us and well...yea what more can ya say. A top five flooding event for Harrisburg kinda says it all
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Quoting wunderstorm87:
The HRRR keeps the band over us until at least 15z/11am. It's hard to believe, but flooding may be worse than currently forecast if that verifies. Keep in mind this is traveling almost parallel to the Susquehanna River.

Essentially this is worst case scenario. Although really everything has gone according to forecast for the LSV at least. This band did not make it as far west as guidance suggested, but rain amounts are what were forecast for much of the Susquehanna Valley. I have been telling my parents back home 8-12in of rain and while days ago that seemed extreme, it is now definitely a reality. Crazy!
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The HRRR keeps the band over us until at least 15z/11am. It's hard to believe, but flooding may be worse than currently forecast if that verifies. Keep in mind this is traveling almost parallel to the Susquehanna River.
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Looking at the radar, it's going to be a long night. We can't catch a break this evening. UGH
Curse you Perry the Platypus
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I feel guilty saying I've only had around 1.5" of rain from this event, along with intermittent peeks of sunshine today.

Stay safe Central Pennsylvanians!

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@110 RR embankment

These are not built as dikes. Worse they have culverts that normally flow both ways. Then you have trenches cut in the compacted fill to accommodate power and signal about 4 ft down . Don't be surp[rised to see it go in several places resulting in sudden flows. Keep your hair on.
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York, Gettysburg & Harrisburg areas look to be under the torrential rain gun for the first half of the overnight hours.
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That second band is looking pretty mean! Heavy rain here in Ithaca today, gorges were roaring today!!!
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Good lord this rain just won't end. Everytime we get a break in the rain an hour or two later in comes another heavy batch. Apparently some of the models are showing anywhere from 2 to 6 more inches with the bands tonight.

Camp Hill high school was closed today due to power issues, Lower Dauphin SD closed early as did Middletown and I'd expect they'll be closed tomorrow. York's had pretty bad flooding and apparently Palmyra is basically an ocean. Insane - just imagine if it was 45f cooler!
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Tornado signature with a warning near La Plata, MD
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It must be an absolute deluge there as it seems terrible here and apparently isn't anything close to what PA is dealing with. We get bands off and on and right now a heavy one is occurring. We're now over 4" for the total here in Brooklyn, which is less than half of what many of you have seen, but still too soggy for me. This after 19" in August. Good luck to all of you with your flooding basements, leaky ceilings and river crestings.

When will the sun return?

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