North American Mesoscale Model Verification on January 26-27...

By: Zachary Labe , 10:34 PM GMT on January 29, 2011

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The North American Mesoscale Model (NAM) is a high resolution model courtesy of the National Center for Environmental Prediction. Another very common and referenced name for the model is the Weather Research and Forecasting Model (WRF). They are the same model and run out to 84 hours. The purpose of the model is to run a higher resolution determining mesoscale features that often cannot be picked up by the global models due to their larger scale. The NAM can be run on an 80km resolution with a broad view of the United States, or 40km which allows the viewer to zoom in on a localized region to put up on mesoscale features. Also a very high resolution form of the NAM exists using a 12km parametric and can zoom into different states. The model is released four times a day at 0z, 6z, 12z, and 18z. Keep in mind that time is zulu or more commonly known as greenwich mean time.

Computer models are critical to forecasting the weather as they use parametric and other mathematical equations to derive the current and predicted state of the atmosphere using a physical and chemical explanation as the background for the predictions. The NCEP is associated with the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to be the developer of these computer models. Each meteorological organization worlwide uses their own developed computer models to serve as a basis for the forecasts. Without computer models, we are not able to derive predictions on the weather greater than 24 hours out.

Like all computer models, the NAM shows all layers of the atmosphere in maps determining positioning and speed of the jet stream, surface precipitation amounts (quantitive precipitation forecast QPF), temperatures throughout the entire core of the atmosphere, convective indices, simulated radars, etc. Due to the higher resolution of the NAM, several problems do exist. It often produces convective elements in many middle latitude cyclones and these are known as convective feedback problems. This is where it developed these unstable regions and often associates them as surface lows causing the surface depiction to be distorted. This was a problem in the recent prediction of the January 26-27 winter storm and will be noted below. Also the NAM has a tendency to produce higher than normal precipitation amounts. I typically find myself cutting totals nearly by 30% as shown on the NAM. Finally the NAM has a bias to overamplify a low pressure and close them off to early particularily on eastern United States cyclogenesis off the coast.

The January 26-27 winter storm featured many model headaches do to some interesting variables. Early on it appeared likely for a low pressure to track up inland along the coastal plain. There was a lacking 50/50 low, unfavorable position of the western trough axis, neutral NAO, natural baroclinicity along the coastline, and stale antecedent cold air mass. This would produce rain along I-95 with heavy snows inland. The 500mb synoptic pattern showed very strong signals for this time of setup with most computer model guidance also in support. The GGEM and ECMWF led the pack with the heavy snows from I-81 on westward. The GFS suffered major problems with varying solutions for each run. But then the computer models began to delay the storm. In fact it was delayed nearly 48-60 hours from the original starting time. This caused a different scenario to unfold. The lacking high pressure to the north was still a problem as the anticyclone zoomed east-northeast, but now a high pressure and associated shortwave out ahead of it allowed sunk east-southeast across the Midwest and western Great Lakes. This acted as a 'kicker' helping to push the cyclonegenesis farther off the coast. This in turn allowed for a colder scenario along with precipitation to occur farther east. Therefore a turn of events allowed for a major I-95 snowstorm with 6in+ totals from Washington DC to Boston. This was very fortunate for snow lovers in that corridor due to pure luck given the poor synoptic setup.

Given the NAM's high resolution, it often overanalyzes prognostics post hour 60. It tends to enhance QPF, overamplify lows, and pick up on mesoscale features that really do not exist. Therefore I typically throw out hours 60-84. It would be a rare event where you would find the NAM 84 hour verifying anywhere close to accurate. But in the near term range, the NAM does an excellent job locating temperature thermals, QPF ranges, and picking up on mesoscale features; coastal fronts, enhanced convection, deformation bands, etc. But in this recent storm, it suffered a plethora of problems and even the 6 and 12 hour surface maps had poor verification especially in the QPF department.

Let us first look at the actual accumulated precipitation totals for the storm.

Given this is a 24 hour accumulated precipitation amount, about .01-.1in of additional precipitation fell south of the Mason-Dixon line in the previous 24 hours.

Here are the preceeding NAM total QPF forecasts...


(January 24; 18z) (January 25; 6z)


(January 25; 12z) (January 25; 18z)


(January 26; 0z) (January 26; 6z)

As you can see, the NAM had a lot of variance with the northwestern sharp precipitation gradients. These tight gradients this year have been caused by the rapid intensification of the coastal lows allowing the heaviest moisture to be confined closer to the center of circulation. Also in this instance, a very cold and dry air mass along with associated cold front was quickly advancing southeast across the Great Lakes and was even picked up on by the 700mb RH charts. This allowed the flow out of the northwest to dry up some moisture for areas more inland.

The NAM simulated radar vs. the forecast QPF did not match up. Often the NAM simulated radar showed the heavier mesoscale bands lining up in northern Maryland and southern Pennsylvania where as it only showed total QPF to be .25in-.5in. In fact looking at total verification, the NAM did very well for its simulated radar.


(Actual NEXRAD National Radar) (6z NAM January 26 Simulated Radar)

The NAM did seem to have a hold on the 500mb map showing the negatively tilted trough producing the coastal low along with the placement of the upper level low and associated shortwave kicker just to the west.


(18z NAM January 24; 500mb) (0z NAM January 26; 500mb)

In general the differences in the 500mb maps were very subtle with just a general strengthening in the closed 500mb low, which verified a tad north of the January 24 18z model run.

The NAM did a very excellent job in identifying mesoscale band using the UUV/700mb RH charts.

(6z NAM January 26; 700mb)

It indentifed the enhanced snow growth over southeastern Pennsylvania up through New Jersey and New York City. The problems with the NAM generally existed in the QPF fields. The model likely suffered a very convective feedback issues in QPF totals. This is why it is important to note other maps than surface maps to help locate the heaviest precipitation. The 700mb map screamed that snow totals would be farther inland with the enhanced deformation band and UUV rates. In general the high resolution models handled this the best with the HRR scoring an amazing victory for QPF along with the ECMWF. The GFS/NAM did a very poor job for QPF, but as noted above QPF does not always tell the story. Sometimes it is important to note other layers of the atmosphere to help make a forecast. This point is why many forecasters missed the boat. Many forecasters (especially broadcoast meteorologists) are drawn to the easy to understand QPF/surface maps, but one has to look at all layers of the atmosphere to make a prediction.

Lower Susquehanna Valley Doppler...

(Courtesy of WGAL)

"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2010-2011 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- 0-3in
Monthly Total (November)- Trace
Monthly Total (December)- 0.6in
Monthly Total (January)- 18.90in
Monthly Total (February)- 1.35in
Seasonal Total- 20.85in
Winter Weather Advisories- 7
Winter Storm Warnings- 2
Ice Storm Warnings- 0
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Freezing Rain Advisories- 1
Winter Storm Watches- 2

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 23.7F
Lowest Low Temperature- -1.7F
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First accumulating snow - December 10 - 0.50in of snow
Clipper light snow - January 7-8 - 2.25in then another 1in of snow
Double Barrel Low - January 11 - 4.5in of snow
Coastal Low - January 17-17 - 1.8in of snow/sleet
Arctic Front - January 20-21 - 2.1in of snow
Upper level/coastal low - January 26 - 5.75in of snow
Two clippers - January 28-29 - 1.5in of snow

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Hi, TheF1Man, looks like it's moving ESE but alot of the precip. out there on radar is virga, although that line seems alittle stronger.
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I wonder if that current line of showers over central ny is expected to keep moving east?
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Hoy, on Feb. 4th, Blizz gave us a "Teaser" about a "surprise" If you go back to blog posts, 1000-1050, on page 21 of this current blog, you can see some of his posts about the "Surprise". Snow never made it to me in Stamford, had plenty of "virga" though!
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It's snowing :)

Hopefully Blizz is MIA due to the break in systems and relatively tranquil weather period.

What's this surprise everyone speaks of? Did me say he would surprise with something?

35 degrees with light wind driven snow - Brooklyn, NY
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Just a nasty little warm up to ruin a lovely cold winter. Blech!
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Yeah, TheF1Man, could be, I hope he is OK.He's just probably busy, plus not too much going on weather-wise.
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Blizz hasn't spoken in a long time, must have to do with the surprise?
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TT Boring is good. Boring is welcome. Hope your nor'easter stays nor'east.

We had a quick coating from a clipper that's melting off already. Sunshine trying to break through the clouds.
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Blizz, where are you? You OK?
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1408. cchamp6
0 for the morning low Bantam Ct. News reporting 5 bay public works garage in Terryville Ct. collapsed last night. 5 new plow trucks leveled. I have lost count of building collapses here but it has to be between 100-200. Hope to take some pics and post them today of the snow here. Will be interesting to see how much actually melts this week.
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How does a 4.4" snowfall cripple a city for a week? What do they have 1 snowplow? For cryin' out loud, that's a violation...

Atlanta:

•Seasonal snow-to-date: 5.9" (4.1" above average-to-date)
•Snowfall on the night of January 9 crippled the city for a week
•Fifth snowiest winter (since 1929)

•Season's snow grade: A+

•Average % of snow left to fall this season: 25%


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Quoting Hoynieva:
Some of you have probably seen it already, but in case you haven't TWC made a snow report card: Link

Pretty interesting to see some of the totals across the nation.


Gotta love this one...That's 1 hour short of 4 days straight of non stop snow in early December. Around 50" during that period, or about 1 foot per day for 4 days straight.

Syracuse:

Seasonal snow-to-date: 138.6" (Over 5 feet above average-to-date)

Snowed 95 hours without a break in early Dec. (50" snow totals, heaviest event since 1993)

Season's snow grade: A

Average % of snow left to fall this season: 37%


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Oh snap...

Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 39.

Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 61.

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Some of you have probably seen it already, but in case you haven't TWC made a snow report card: Link

Pretty interesting to see some of the totals across the nation.
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1403. hurigo
Hey,
Where's Blizz? Off on a PR tour or something?
Did I miss the announcement?

OK three questions is my limit.

Hello everyone and I hope we're all ready for cheerful spring stuff: biking, gardening, golfing.
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Quoting TrentonThunder:
For the mid-atlantic, besides a brief relapse to near average temps Tue Feb 15, looks like we are headed for a 10-day above average temps period beginning Sunday Feb 13 lasting until Tuesday Feb 22nd. Could top 60 on PA/NJ coastal plain around Monday Feb 21. We may drop below average again beginning Wednesday Feb 23. No big storm threats over the entire 2 week period and in fact looks like a ton of ice-cracking sunshine almost throughout. I could end up with a 0.1" snow total for February. What a huge change! We'll have to wait and see what's on tap for the tail end of Feb and 1st week of March. One of the most boring outlooks Ive seen in a long time ZZZzzz...
...latest gfs calls for a mix precip storm.in the NE 21/22,with highs in the lower/mid 40's in NYc,presidents day nor'easter??
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1399. cchamp6

cchamp - it's amazing how cold you get for Ct. Is that ordinary for you all these below zero temperatures?



Oh yeah this is normal here. Ct. has some very hilly/mountains in my area. Litchfield Hills which run right up through the Berkshires into the Green Mountains of Vermont. Many valleys in between. I am at about 800-900 feet surrounded by hills into the 1500' range. So the cold just pools up on those clear cold nights. No golf here until about May unless we get some serious long term heat. I sure hope this thaw isnt our January thaw and then March turns out to be Feb!
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1398. bwi
Quoting TrentonThunder:



Huffy? BMX?


Jamis Nova Race (cyclocross). Use it for commuting, though, not racing.
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For the mid-atlantic, besides a brief relapse to near average temps Tue Feb 15, looks like we are headed for a 10-day above average temps period beginning Sunday Feb 13 lasting until Tuesday Feb 22nd. Could top 60 on PA/NJ coastal plain around Monday Feb 21. We may drop below average again beginning Wednesday Feb 23. No big storm threats over the entire 2 week period and in fact looks like a ton of ice-cracking sunshine almost throughout. I could end up with a 0.1" snow total for February. What a huge change! We'll have to wait and see what's on tap for the tail end of Feb and 1st week of March. One of the most boring outlooks Ive seen in a long time ZZZzzz...
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Warm up coming......which means so is yard work. Bring it on. Wonder if we will get one more snow storm, still plenty of time.
When will we hear of Blizz's surprise????
Need some interesting weather so people stay away from politics.......we play nice here! Except when we are envious of someones snow totals!
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cchamp - it's amazing how cold you get for Ct. Is that ordinary for you all these below zero temperatures?

a low of 9.1F Campbelltown, PA

crowe - I like that the 3C's. I know all about the 3H's.
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1392. cchamp6
-12 for the morning low here in Litchfield Ct. Glaciers wont melt until the middle of may. Roofs collapsing every day. 3 nearby my house just yesterday.
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Quoting bwi:
50s for highs in DC all next week. I'm psyched. The snow is gone, no storms coming, so let the temps rise. Just got my bike tuned up.



Huffy? BMX?
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1390. crowe1
Very pretty picture hurigo. Clear, calm and cold here. In the summer it's the 3 h's (hazy, hot,humid), winter has the 3 c's.

Sacandaga Lake, Broadalbin, New York (PWS)
Updated: 1 sec ago
Partly Cloudy
-8.7 °F
Partly Cloudy
Windchill: -9 °F
Humidity: 82%
Dew Point: -13 °F
Wind: 3.0 mph from the SE
Wind Gust: 3.0 mph
Pressure: 30.14 in (Steady)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
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7.4F this morning.
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Hoy,
I wasn't going to get involved in the political exchange here, but I just have to respond.

Your statement that contractors are "always connected to politicians and therefore beneficial to their master plans as well as their pockets" is startlingly insulting. As somebody who works at a contract analytical orgnization for clients in defense (and has done so for 29 yrs), your statement reflects biases and not knowledge. I'd advise you to focus your comments on specific topics of which you have some basis of experience, and to avoid scatter-shot smears.

-- doom
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1387. hurigo
Hello Blizz, et al.
And on a lighter note, we had snow today and it was my favorite kind. Awoke to about a half-a-finger worth. Hubby cleared the car, remembering the importance to sweep off the accumulation on the roof and boot. Roads in good condition. There was beautiful sunshine and blue sky framing all sorts of attractive colour combinations: the white on the red-berried green bushes and the white on the gray trunks and branches with left-over yellow-brown leaves. Very nice.

SEVA/NENC coastal border
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1386. bwi
50s for highs in DC all next week. I'm psyched. The snow is gone, no storms coming, so let the temps rise. Just got my bike tuned up.
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Hoynieva: Arguably there are more bridges in Pittsburgh than in Venice. They do not get the attention they need. I'm totally apolitical but gotta admit, it is something to be concerned about.

MG: A 2 hr delay for 1/2 inch? That's a knee slapper. But we had a 2 hour delay the Monday following the Super Bowl because of the Super Bowl. Another knee slapper.

Sunny and darned cold. That was our weather today. Tonight, dark and darned cold. Loved the sunshine.
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1384. Matlack
Quoting TrentonThunder:


Oh, I see. Another one recently in PA? Where at?

NM, Allentown. An investigation to the cause is beeing done. The other two that I mentioned weren't home owners responsibilities. If it's the same case in Allentown, it would seem to be happening in urban centers. I wonder how much of an effect winter's have on that sort of thing, especially when they're cold. Or maybe the high stress of a hot summer (expand) followed by a cold winter (contract) or something.

Have to weigh in from experience on this - I have personnally seen frost heave fracture and break cast iron and even steel mains here in NJ. The risk in the cold weather is that leakage that normally would work through the soil to the surface and vent without incident now is trapped by ice and travels long distances from the source.
Hoy et al. I agree that there is aging infrastructure out there that needs to be addressed (in all areas) but a pipe from the 50's probably has a few decades left in its useful life. The real key is inspection and controls. The San Bruno incident is bad record keeping (the main in question was not weldless as noted on the as built and had a seam that appeared to fail) and that someone allowed the pressure to build in the line rapidly. There was pipe from the 1890's that was inservice when I started in the late 1980's. When we dug some up it looked brand new and I saw main installed in the 1960's that looked like swiss cheese. Thought I'd stay away from the political and go educational.
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1383. anduril
Hey everybody as much fun as a political discussion can be we're treading heady waters here. Infrastructure can be a good and proper discussion (because it really IS that backwards and needs fixed) but getting into political issues of med insurance and defense spending can get ugly quick.

So, how bout those snow storms?

EDIT: Ugh is hard to hold back on some of the comments too! :)
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Quoting TheRasberryPatch:


schooling? are you kidding....there is so much waste with the money spent on public schools. there was just a report out that Catholic schools perform much better with less money. so we don't need more spending on public schools. as with all government run programs...let's get rid of the waste.

Healthcare? how much more do you want to add to healthcare? wasn't last years debacle enough money spent on healthcare?

I am a scientist and I would love to see more exploration on space and NASA

as for Defense spending....if it wasn't for Defense spending in the 80's we would still be fighting a Cold war. look throughout the world and see all the problems. there was just a report today about cyber attacks coming out of China. And the new gun that was just sent into the field in Afghanistan is supposed to be able to seek out the militant. Do we cut that from the budget.

this is one person not in the choir


I should have specified that I was speaking of higher education. Our public school system is another matter entirely and the fact that it ranks so poorly out of developed nations should show that it's a lot more than a money issue. And healthcare, that wouldn't be as much of an issue if we had more money to work with. I wasn't even discussing last years so-called "debacle." I'm all for humans having the right to healthcare and therefore LIFE regardless of their status in society. It's a basic human right.

As for your defense claim, it's the typical mindset of those of yesteryear. The choir thing was not voiced for liberal, progressive, conservative or independent, but your statement, trp, is making this oh so more political. I would absolutely love to debate you, as an independent, on this topic, but this isn't the place for it. Just because Reagan thought we needed so much money on defense three decades ago (much of it justified), doesn't mean we have to keep the levels so high and even increase them to a point where our defense spending is higher than the GDP of most nations. It's ABSURD, to say the least. You talk about waste in the school system but you think the high and mighty military has no waste? Not to mention the contractors they hire which are always connected to politicians and therefore beneficial to their master plans as well as their pockets.

Alas, these words are in vain.
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Quoting Hoynieva:
Yeah, it's definitely plausible that the change in temps would have an effect, TT, especially on pipes a half of a century old.

And the money thing, P, there's so much we could do with the ridiculous amount the govt puts into defense. Put it toward schooling, healthcare, infrastructure, space, etc. The list goes on. There's so much waste and yada yada yada. Preaching to the choir.

Good thing it's a slow day on here or else this would seem even less appropriate.


schooling? are you kidding....there is so much waste with the money spent on public schools. there was just a report out that Catholic schools perform much better with less money. so we don't need more spending on public schools. as with all government run programs...let's get rid of the waste.

Healthcare? how much more do you want to add to healthcare? wasn't last years debacle enough money spent on healthcare?

I am a scientist and I would love to see more exploration on space and NASA

as for Defense spending....if it wasn't for Defense spending in the 80's we would still be fighting a Cold war. look throughout the world and see all the problems. there was just a report today about cyber attacks coming out of China. And the new gun that was just sent into the field in Afghanistan is supposed to be able to seek out the militant. Do we cut that from the budget.

this is one person not in the choir
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Yeah, it's definitely plausible that the change in temps would have an effect, TT, especially on pipes a half of a century old.

And the money thing, P, there's so much we could do with the ridiculous amount the govt puts into defense. Put it toward schooling, healthcare, infrastructure, space, etc. The list goes on. There's so much waste and yada yada yada. Preaching to the choir.

Good thing it's a slow day on here or else this would seem even less appropriate.
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Quoting Hoynieva:
Anyhow, even if this PA one isn't a gas explosion due to an aging pipe, even if it's a meth lab or is the fault of a homeowner in some other way, that doesn't mean we're not lacking in the infrastructure department. I realize I should not have brought it up on here, but hey, many people on here are from Pennsylvania, so at least it kind of related. :)


Oh, I see. Another one recently in PA? Where at?

NM, Allentown. An investigation to the cause is beeing done. The other two that I mentioned weren't home owners responsibilities. If it's the same case in Allentown, it would seem to be happening in urban centers. I wonder how much of an effect winter's have on that sort of thing, especially when they're cold. Or maybe the high stress of a hot summer (expand) followed by a cold winter (contract) or something.
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Quoting Hoynieva:
Another natural gas explosion claims lives, this time in Pennsylvania. Our infrastructures are so outdated, whether it's the electrical grid, gas, rail, etc. A once developed nation headed backwards.

oO, wrong blog.


We've actually had a few notable ones here too just this winter (Philadelphia), both in January. The first one blew an elderly lady's house to absolute smitherenes and she miraculously survived. I believe someone came and grabbed her out of there just before the blast because they smelled it. Explosion wasn't her fault. Then a week later, an enormous explosion took out an entire city block. That one was real nasty.
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Anyhow, even if this PA one isn't a gas explosion due to an aging pipe, even if it's a meth lab or is the fault of a homeowner in some other way, that doesn't mean we're not lacking in the infrastructure department. I realize I should not have brought it up on here, but hey, many people on here are from Pennsylvania, so at least it kind of related. :)
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Matlack, perhaps I should have waited or not said anything at all, but it's a fact that the pipelines beneath many homes across the nation are aging and outdated. The pipe line that exploded in California last year was 50 years old - the life expectancy for steel pipes and part of a transmission line that had an exceedingly HIGH risk of failure. Many of the pipes across the nation were installed in the 1950's, just before mass suburban sprawl and therefore many communities were built atop them and are in need of new pipes. They don't last forever.

There was a steam pipe explosion here in Manhattan a few years ago on a line that was over 80 years old. Remember the electricity failure that hit 1/6 of North America in 2003? I won't even get into the failure of a rail system we have.

My point is that our infrastructures need fixed. I'm not blaming your former company, perhaps it's one of the good ones. I'm sure there are good folks behind many of them, it's just that the money isn't always invested where it needs to be.


[article]
'Federal officials have recorded 2,840 significant gas pipeline accidents since 1990, more than a third causing deaths and significant injuries.'

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1373. Matlack
Quoting Hoynieva:
Another natural gas explosion claims lives, this time in Pennsylvania. Our infrastructures are so outdated, whether it's the electrical grid, gas, rail, etc. A once developed nation headed backwards.

oO, wrong blog.

Hoy - remember it's not always the infrastructure that is at issue but sometimes people do things in thier homes that cause these type of incidents. I used to work for a major Utility with a very good safety record and as an investigator found that most of the incidents were caused by 3 parties and not the Utility infrastructure. It is always best to wait these out for the facts and feel for those families that have been impacted. Not saying that all Utilities are as good as the one I worked for but I would hope so.
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Hahaha. It transcends political affiliations, LT. It's something that should have been fixed decades ago. I blame no one and everyone. ;)

But yes, it's COLD outside.
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Yeah, be careful Hoy, don't get political!! :)
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Another natural gas explosion claims lives, this time in Pennsylvania. Our infrastructures are so outdated, whether it's the electrical grid, gas, rail, etc. A once developed nation headed backwards.

oO, wrong blog.
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MG - that is too funny. 1/2" and a two hour delay? really? wow.
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We have about 1/2 in SO MD and 2 hr delay for schools here and in surrounding counties. Some closings in VA. Channel 9 met is going crazy, asked for a school admin. to call in and let him know why schools would be closed. Few minutes later he talked about how snow would "magically" disappear after the sun comes up.... pretty funny.
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Nice 1/2 inch coating here in Burke VA (WSW of DC, 3 mi outside beltway).
Decorative.
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