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North American Mesoscale Model Verification on January 26-27...
Posted by: Zachary Labe, 10:34 PM GMT on January 29, 2011 +5
The North American Mesoscale Model (NAM) is a high resolution model courtesy of the National Center for Environmental Prediction. Another very common and referenced name for the model is the Weather Research and Forecasting Model (WRF). They are the same model and run out to 84 hours. The purpose of the model is to run a higher resolution determining mesoscale features that often cannot be picked up by the global models due to their larger scale. The NAM can be run on an 80km resolution with a broad view of the United States, or 40km which allows the viewer to zoom in on a localized region to put up on mesoscale features. Also a very high resolution form of the NAM exists using a 12km parametric and can zoom into different states. The model is released four times a day at 0z, 6z, 12z, and 18z. Keep in mind that time is zulu or more commonly known as greenwich mean time.

Computer models are critical to forecasting the weather as they use parametric and other mathematical equations to derive the current and predicted state of the atmosphere using a physical and chemical explanation as the background for the predictions. The NCEP is associated with the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to be the developer of these computer models. Each meteorological organization worlwide uses their own developed computer models to serve as a basis for the forecasts. Without computer models, we are not able to derive predictions on the weather greater than 24 hours out.

Like all computer models, the NAM shows all layers of the atmosphere in maps determining positioning and speed of the jet stream, surface precipitation amounts (quantitive precipitation forecast QPF), temperatures throughout the entire core of the atmosphere, convective indices, simulated radars, etc. Due to the higher resolution of the NAM, several problems do exist. It often produces convective elements in many middle latitude cyclones and these are known as convective feedback problems. This is where it developed these unstable regions and often associates them as surface lows causing the surface depiction to be distorted. This was a problem in the recent prediction of the January 26-27 winter storm and will be noted below. Also the NAM has a tendency to produce higher than normal precipitation amounts. I typically find myself cutting totals nearly by 30% as shown on the NAM. Finally the NAM has a bias to overamplify a low pressure and close them off to early particularily on eastern United States cyclogenesis off the coast.

The January 26-27 winter storm featured many model headaches do to some interesting variables. Early on it appeared likely for a low pressure to track up inland along the coastal plain. There was a lacking 50/50 low, unfavorable position of the western trough axis, neutral NAO, natural baroclinicity along the coastline, and stale antecedent cold air mass. This would produce rain along I-95 with heavy snows inland. The 500mb synoptic pattern showed very strong signals for this time of setup with most computer model guidance also in support. The GGEM and ECMWF led the pack with the heavy snows from I-81 on westward. The GFS suffered major problems with varying solutions for each run. But then the computer models began to delay the storm. In fact it was delayed nearly 48-60 hours from the original starting time. This caused a different scenario to unfold. The lacking high pressure to the north was still a problem as the anticyclone zoomed east-northeast, but now a high pressure and associated shortwave out ahead of it allowed sunk east-southeast across the Midwest and western Great Lakes. This acted as a 'kicker' helping to push the cyclonegenesis farther off the coast. This in turn allowed for a colder scenario along with precipitation to occur farther east. Therefore a turn of events allowed for a major I-95 snowstorm with 6in+ totals from Washington DC to Boston. This was very fortunate for snow lovers in that corridor due to pure luck given the poor synoptic setup.

Given the NAM's high resolution, it often overanalyzes prognostics post hour 60. It tends to enhance QPF, overamplify lows, and pick up on mesoscale features that really do not exist. Therefore I typically throw out hours 60-84. It would be a rare event where you would find the NAM 84 hour verifying anywhere close to accurate. But in the near term range, the NAM does an excellent job locating temperature thermals, QPF ranges, and picking up on mesoscale features; coastal fronts, enhanced convection, deformation bands, etc. But in this recent storm, it suffered a plethora of problems and even the 6 and 12 hour surface maps had poor verification especially in the QPF department.

Let us first look at the actual accumulated precipitation totals for the storm.

Given this is a 24 hour accumulated precipitation amount, about .01-.1in of additional precipitation fell south of the Mason-Dixon line in the previous 24 hours.

Here are the preceeding NAM total QPF forecasts...


(January 24; 18z) (January 25; 6z)


(January 25; 12z) (January 25; 18z)


(January 26; 0z) (January 26; 6z)

As you can see, the NAM had a lot of variance with the northwestern sharp precipitation gradients. These tight gradients this year have been caused by the rapid intensification of the coastal lows allowing the heaviest moisture to be confined closer to the center of circulation. Also in this instance, a very cold and dry air mass along with associated cold front was quickly advancing southeast across the Great Lakes and was even picked up on by the 700mb RH charts. This allowed the flow out of the northwest to dry up some moisture for areas more inland.

The NAM simulated radar vs. the forecast QPF did not match up. Often the NAM simulated radar showed the heavier mesoscale bands lining up in northern Maryland and southern Pennsylvania where as it only showed total QPF to be .25in-.5in. In fact looking at total verification, the NAM did very well for its simulated radar.


(Actual NEXRAD National Radar) (6z NAM January 26 Simulated Radar)

The NAM did seem to have a hold on the 500mb map showing the negatively tilted trough producing the coastal low along with the placement of the upper level low and associated shortwave kicker just to the west.


(18z NAM January 24; 500mb) (0z NAM January 26; 500mb)

In general the differences in the 500mb maps were very subtle with just a general strengthening in the closed 500mb low, which verified a tad north of the January 24 18z model run.

The NAM did a very excellent job in identifying mesoscale band using the UUV/700mb RH charts.

(6z NAM January 26; 700mb)

It indentifed the enhanced snow growth over southeastern Pennsylvania up through New Jersey and New York City. The problems with the NAM generally existed in the QPF fields. The model likely suffered a very convective feedback issues in QPF totals. This is why it is important to note other maps than surface maps to help locate the heaviest precipitation. The 700mb map screamed that snow totals would be farther inland with the enhanced deformation band and UUV rates. In general the high resolution models handled this the best with the HRR scoring an amazing victory for QPF along with the ECMWF. The GFS/NAM did a very poor job for QPF, but as noted above QPF does not always tell the story. Sometimes it is important to note other layers of the atmosphere to help make a forecast. This point is why many forecasters missed the boat. Many forecasters (especially broadcoast meteorologists) are drawn to the easy to understand QPF/surface maps, but one has to look at all layers of the atmosphere to make a prediction.

Lower Susquehanna Valley Doppler...

(Courtesy of WGAL)

"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2010-2011 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- 0-3in
Monthly Total (November)- Trace
Monthly Total (December)- 0.6in
Monthly Total (January)- 18.90in
Monthly Total (February)- 1.35in
Seasonal Total- 20.85in
Winter Weather Advisories- 7
Winter Storm Warnings- 2
Ice Storm Warnings- 0
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Freezing Rain Advisories- 1
Winter Storm Watches- 2

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 23.7F
Lowest Low Temperature- -1.7F
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First accumulating snow - December 10 - 0.50in of snow
Clipper light snow - January 7-8 - 2.25in then another 1in of snow
Double Barrel Low - January 11 - 4.5in of snow
Coastal Low - January 17-17 - 1.8in of snow/sleet
Arctic Front - January 20-21 - 2.1in of snow
Upper level/coastal low - January 26 - 5.75in of snow
Two clippers - January 28-29 - 1.5in of snow
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011... (Blizzard92)
.4-.5in of freezing rain
Ice Storm 2011...
Ice Storm 2011 (Blizzard92)
Melting begins...
Ice Storm 2011
Ice Storm 2011 (Blizzard92)
Melting begins...
Ice Storm 2011
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1453. TheF1Man 7:10 AM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting P451:


There is however it will pull it down over the western states while we get the ridge and the warmer weather. In the long term it should migrate eastward but also moderate as it does so. Not looking good through the rest of February for winter weather enthusiasts.



Fine with me. If it's not going to snow, it might as well be warm, and anything else in between just isn't fun.
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1454. anduril 1:11 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting TrentonThunder:
I posted this question a while back but got no response. My aunt and uncle just moved from here to Mechanicsburg PA a couple weeks ago. They're curious as to which television station provides the best weather forecasts for that area. Anyone? Anyone?
WGAL is probably the better of the big three I'd say. The CBS affiliate can be decent for weather but for news they seem to be more into shock and terrible stuff than anything else. Fox, well, I just avoid fox
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1455. zotty 2:29 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting Hoynieva:
Some of you have probably seen it already, but in case you haven't TWC made a snow report card: Link

Pretty interesting to see some of the totals across the nation.


I like Syracuse- 95 straight hours of snowfall. Maybe Heavy should consider moving to that hotbed of economic and social activity...
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1456. MarylandGirl 2:31 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
RP-I called my dr and described what I had and they are going to call in meds. Guess so many people are sick that the dr does not have any appt open.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/cold -becomes-sinus-infection
I read about it here and you need to call your dr. gotta be well soon cause it is almost time to start planting!
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1457. SilverShipsofAndilar 2:39 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Winter is over? Can we call it officially?
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1458. originalLT 2:46 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Not yet Silver Ships! Tomorrow will feel like an ice box, then of course warmer starting Wed. but Blizz hinted, look out for March! We've had some big snows in March.--Super Storm of 1993, Blizzard of 1888, Big snow of March 3-4th, 1961 0r 62(can't remember which!)
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1459. TheRasberryPatch 3:00 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
thanks MG. I keep thinking it will run its course in a few days

Blizz - said back in early January I think that March and April will be warmer than normal. Then a few weeks later he changed his prediction.

Did anyone see those pictures of Lead, South Dakota back in early January of the snow they got. Truly amazing.

Anyone having a problem with having to sign in all the time here on Wunderground? It happens to me all the time the last couple of weeks. What a PIA.
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1460. crowe1 3:20 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Rapid warm up. low 23F at 8am to 43F at 10am!

putting a few test taps for sap today.

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1461. HeavySnow 3:26 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting zotty:


I like Syracuse- 95 straight hours of snowfall. Maybe Heavy should consider moving to that hotbed of economic and social activity...


My dang family won't go. Jerks. hahahahahaha.
Syracuse? Hmmmmmm, Rochester maybe. Glens Falls? Okay. Tug Hill Plateau, I'm there!
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1462. SilverShipsofAndilar 3:39 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting originalLT:
Not yet Silver Ships! Tomorrow will feel like an ice box, then of course warmer starting Wed. but Blizz hinted, look out for March! We've had some big snows in March.--Super Storm of 1993, Blizzard of 1888, Big snow of March 3-4th, 1961 0r 62(can't remember which!)


Three storms in 123 years? That hardly worries me. Are we looking at a hot/cold/hot/cold 70s/30s/70s/30s pattern March through April? When can I plant my garden, play golf, and go mountain biking?
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1463. shipweather 4:06 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
I've been in Chicago for a week, I'll be here for one more and then I'll be home in Shippensburg for 2 days then back here again. When I got here it had snowed 3" on top of the 25" they already had. The on Monday snowed 3" on top of that. Last Firday they were still digging places out, WAY over a week after. It's crazy how much snow there was. It's been warm though and the melting is occurring quickly. Hopefully it snows again while I'm here because things aren't looking good back east.
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1464. originalLT 4:07 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Hi Silver Ships, well thats all I could remember in a short period of time while responding to you. I do agree, the back of winter has been broken, but just sayin, don't let your guard down.
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1465. Hoynieva 4:28 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
56.3 here! Other than tomorrow's hiccup, this week is a welcome tease.

Bring on Spring.
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1466. Hoynieva 4:36 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
^ That's not to say I wouldn't love a huge Spring snowstorm...
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1467. SilverShipsofAndilar 4:49 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting originalLT:
Hi Silver Ships, well thats all I could remember in a short period of time while responding to you. I do agree, the back of winter has been broken, but just sayin, don't let your guard down.


If letting my guard down means a higher risk for a three-foot snowfall, then consider my guard down. Way down.
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1468. originalLT 5:32 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Ha,Ha, not a "three footer" but a "one footer" is alot more possible!
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1469. bwi 5:59 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Hmmm.. HPC showing cooler temps from NE on south on Day 7, with lower pressures in the Ohio valley. Looks like at least a temporary break in the warm. Any precip would fall on very warm unfrozen ground by that point...
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1470. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6:03 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Quoting SilverShipsofAndilar:
Winter is over? Can we call it officially?

not quite yet a surprize is possible after big thaw

wait watch see
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1471. TheF1Man 6:14 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
TRP i haven't had the log-in problem, whenever I load the blog I'm already signed in.

bwi maybe down in your area the ground is unfrozen, but up here in springfield it's going to take a lot more than 7 days of 40s to melt the snow.
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1472. originalLT 6:20 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Maybe we'll be calling this our "February Thaw", we never really had one in Jan. this year.
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1473. bwi 6:40 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
68 degrees at DCA
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1474. Hoynieva 7:24 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
62.1 degrees with sunshine and wind in Brooklyn.
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1475. nesnow383 7:49 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
It hit 50 here, but there is still a 30" snowpack in my back yard. I am not minding the small warm up, hopefully it gives me some room to put the snow from the next storms!!!
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1476. TheRasberryPatch 8:56 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
today's high reached 56F...now down to 46F with very windy conditions and mostly cloudy
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1480. PhillySnow 10:13 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Hi everyone!

Just back from Chicago - missed you there, shipweather. :) Got home in time for this beautiful, warm day! Good to be home!

Too many posts to read through all of them - Has Blizz shown up? Any word about the surprise?
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1481. crowe1 11:10 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Albany New York
451 PM EST Monday Feb 14 2011


Synopsis...
a strong cold front will sweep through the region this evening
ushering in very cold air and strong gusty winds. Temperatures are
expected to drop as much as 50 degrees from mondays highs by
Tuesday morning. High pressure will begin to build in on Tuesday
and will dominate our weather through middle week. Temperatures are
expected to be chilly through Tuesday night and then warm to well
above normal before the end of the work week.



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1482. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:18 PM GMT on February 14, 2011    
we had a high of 48 at 10 am this morning cold front came by at around noon with winds to 80 kmh from the north that was it for the brief warm up temps have dropped to 25 now with a low of 10 to 15 tonight then cold tommorrow with warmup returning wed temps on thurs should be back to 50 with possible 60's on friday then back to cold on the weekend

gotta love these rollercoaster temps spring is coming
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1483. TrentonThunder 12:59 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting anduril:
WGAL is probably the better of the big three I'd say. The CBS affiliate can be decent for weather but for news they seem to be more into shock and terrible stuff than anything else. Fox, well, I just avoid fox


Thanx
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1484. TrentonThunder 1:01 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting SilverShipsofAndilar:


Three storms in 123 years? That hardly worries me. Are we looking at a hot/cold/hot/cold 70s/30s/70s/30s pattern March through April? When can I plant my garden, play golf, and go mountain biking?


There's been a lot more than that. Thay're just a couple "Storm of the Centuries"
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1485. TrentonThunder 1:08 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
I had a low of 45F and high of 59F. 1" snowcover left as of sunset. Felt real nice out there today. Some area highs/lows...

: MAX MIN SNOW SNOW
:ID LOCATION TEMP TEMP PCPN FALL DEPTH
:
:...NORTHERN NEW JERSEY...
12N : ANDOVER : 56 / 30 / 0.00/ M/ M
TTN : MERCER COUNTY AP : 59 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
FWN : SUSSEX AIRPORT : 57 / 35 / T / M/ M
TEB : TETERBORO AIRPORT : 57 / 38 / 0.00/ M/ M
CDW : CALDWELL : 57 / 39 / 0.00/ M/ M
EWR : NEWARK INTERNATIONAL : 60 / 41 / 0.00/ M/ M
SMQ : SOMERVILLE AIRPORT : 57 / 26 / 0.00/ M/ M
BLM : BELMAR AIRPORT : 59 / 43 / 0.00/ M/ M
:
:...SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY...
ACY : ATLANTIC CITY AIRPORT : 65 / 44 / 0.02/ M/ M
VAY : MOUNT HOLLY AIRPORT : 61 / 44 / 0.00/ M/ M
WRI : MCGUIRE AFB : 60 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
NEL : LAKEHURST NAS : 62 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
MIV : MILLVILLE AP : 65 / 41 / 0.00/ M/ M
WWD : WILDWOOD AIRPORT : 63 / 43 / 0.00/ M/ M
ATLN4: ATLANTIC CITY MARINA : 62 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
:
:...EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA...
PHL : PHILADELPHIA AP : 62 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
ABE : LEHIGH VALLEY INTL : 52 / 26 / 0.00/ M/ M
RDG : READING AP : 55 / 36 / T / M/ M
MPO : MOUNT POCONO AP : 49 / 36 / T / M/ M
AVP : WILKES-BARRE AP : 50 / 39 / T / M/ M
PTW : POTTSTOWN AP : 59 / 45 / 0.00/ M/ M
NXX : WILLOW GROVE NAS : 56 / 43 / 0.00/ M/ M
DYL : DOYLESTOWN AP : 55 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
PNE : NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA : M / M / 0.00/ M/ M
SEG : SELINSGROVE AP : 53 / 32 / 0.00/ M/ M
THV : YORK : 58 / 43 / 0.00/ M/ M
LNS : LANCASTER AP : 54 / 39 / 0.00/ M/ M
LOM : BLUE BELL : 58 / 44 / 0.00/ M/ M
UKT : QUAKERTOWN : 55 / 39 / 0.00/ M/ M
:
:...DELAWARE AND EASTERN MARYLAND...
ILG : WILMINGTON AIRPORT : 62 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
GED : GEORGETOWN AP : 67 / 43 / 0.00/ M/ M
ESN : EASTON AIRPORT : 66 / 46 / 0.00/ M/ M
NAK : ANNAPOLIS : 66 / 48 / 0.00/ M/ M
DOV : DOVER AFB : 67 / 42 / 0.00/ M/ M
OXB : OCEAN CITY AP : 69 / 47 / 0.00/ M/ M
SBY : SALISBURY : 67 / 39 / 0.00/ M/ M
BWI : BALTIMORE AIRPORT : 67 / 48 / 0.00/ M/ M
:
.END
:
.BR PHI 0214 E DH00/TAIRZX/DH07/TAIRZP
:
:...OTHER COASTAL OBSERVATIONS...
SDHN4: SANDY HOOK : 53 / 41
PTPN4: POINT PLEASANT : 60 / 40
BGLN4: BARNEGAT LIGHT : 60 / 40
NWWN4: NORTH WILDWOOD : 61 / 41
CAPN4: CAPE MAY HARBOR : 61 / 42
CMAN4: CAPE MAY FERRY : 50 / 42
LWSD1: BREAKWATER HARBOR : 65 / 46
CAMM2: CAMBRIDGE : 65 / 46
TCBM2: TOLCHESTER BEACH : 55 / 44
DELD1: DELAWARE CITY : 63 / 46
PHBP1: PHILADELPHIA PIER 12 : 62 / 43
NBLP1: NEWBOLD ISLAND : 58 / 43
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1486. pittsburghnurse 1:16 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Except for a few small snow banks, all the snow melted away revealing deeply cracked sod in in my yard like there had been an earthquake or an alien worm thing has been tunneling. I've never seen the likes of it before. It's long established grass. It's like tributaries. What the??
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1487. bwi 1:31 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Didn't expect this much wind tonight. Still howling out there.
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1488. TheRasberryPatch 1:33 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
I guess Blizz's surprise is that he won't be coming around his blog anymore...hahahahaha

he did say it wasn't any big deal.
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1489. Gaara 1:56 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Beautiful day today, even with the breeze. I am laughing at all the people who bought snow brooms a week after the last storm, only to never use them.

Too bad I had to spend it inside with bronchitis. At least I have a bottle of sweet, delicious sizzurp to keep me company.
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1490. pittsburghnurse 2:51 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
I guess Blizz's surprise is that he won't be coming around his blog anymore...hahahahaha

he did say it wasn't any big deal.


Exactly my thoughts. Wonder if he knows his blog is being highacked.
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1491. testbenchdude 7:28 AM GMT on February 15, 2011    
If I may be so bold as to inject a little controversy, I'm seeing some commentary over the current CME that indicates it may have a heating effect in excess of what we're expecting this weekend...

Didn't Blizz say he was interested in any supposed link between solar activity and climate change?

Link:

NOAA Space weather

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1492. TrentonThunder 2:20 PM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Looks like we have something to watch per the gfs late this weekend / early next week. A low develops in KS on Sunday, moves northeast to Chicago Monday morning, moves ESE to southern MI Monday afternoon, scoots across northern PA Monday night, is south of RI Tuesday morning, then east out to sea thereafter. Per gfs, swath of heavy snow / all snow over northern NY - to Albany - Mass excluding Cape, - central n southern VT NH - extreme southern ME. Snow to rain to snow from mason-dixon to Delaware / NJ and north to the all snow line.
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1494. Hoynieva 5:28 PM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting P451:
Wind was very strong last night. Bottomed out at 17F. Currently standing at 32F after a surprise early high of 34F about 6F higher than predicted. 10F for tonight and then back to another warm-up although the temperatures have come down about 5F across the board each day and down 10F to 45F on Saturday instead of 55F.

Was able to clean up a lot of the frozen mess late yesterday after the day full of sun and warmth. Hit 62F in the city.

Meanwhile, yesterday's plotted highs. Would have loved a full week of that.



I wouldn't be surprised if it gets warmer than that later in the week. Yesterday, as you said, was 62 here, yet they were predicting mid 50's. Today, on the other hand, is downright bitter compared to 24 hours ago, especially with that biting wind. I opened the door to the balcony this morning and it literally pulled me outside.

Here's to 65 on Friday!
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1495. PhillySnow 6:43 PM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting TrentonThunder:
Looks like we have something to watch per the gfs late this weekend / early next week. A low develops in KS on Sunday, moves northeast to Chicago Monday morning, moves ESE to southern MI Monday afternoon, scoots across northern PA Monday night, is south of RI Tuesday morning, then east out to sea thereafter. Per gfs, swath of heavy snow / all snow over northern NY - to Albany - Mass excluding Cape, - central n southern VT NH - extreme southern ME. Snow to rain to snow from mason-dixon to Delaware / NJ and north to the all snow line.

Yay! I'm liking the little bit of spring, and one more snowstorm would be perfect. Early enough, also, to not destroy anyone's garden. (I think - my husband's the gardener in our family.)
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1496. TrentonThunder 7:14 PM GMT on February 15, 2011    
Quoting PhillySnow:

Yay! I'm liking the little bit of spring, and one more snowstorm would be perfect. Early enough, also, to not destroy anyone's garden. (I think - my husband's the gardener in our family.)


Yeah, I'm starting to get that spring fever, but I'd be up for snow in July if you ask me.

This interesting low pressure system is still a week away and there is some huge model spread between the GFS, ECMFW and CMC. One thing they have in common is that they project a zonal flow from the plains to the east coast, meaning west to east storm movement with little to no amplification. The GFS & ECMFW suggest a decent amount of moisture with the system with a west to east swath of moderate to heavy. The GFS has trended north from the 6Z to 12Z run and is the northern-most of the 3 models, bringing the low offshore at New Hampshire and favoring northernmost New England with heavy snow. The ECMFW brings the low off the NC/VA coast and looks like it favors the mid-atlantic with moderate to heavy snow. The CMC is the least impressive of the 3 and brings the low off shore at southern NC. All 3 solutions push the low off shore with no coastal redevelopment. What a spread!
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1497. PhillySnow 10:22 AM GMT on February 16, 2011    
Good morning, everyone! Or should I say anyone...? Not a single comment from 2:14pm yesterday through all evening. Is this what it's like when it's not snow season? Have I somehow entered a blog Twilight Zone? I've checked to see if there's a new post we've moved to, but I don't see one. Very odd.
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1498. pittsburghnurse 11:39 AM GMT on February 16, 2011    
I think we're all interested on Blizz's take for the upcoming Spring. That will get it going again.
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1499. TheRasberryPatch 12:23 PM GMT on February 16, 2011    
Phillysnow...Blizz hasn't posted in over a week. Why bother coming around if the host isn't coming around. It isn't usually like this. Even in the summer time it is more lively.
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Cornell University- Atmospheric Sciences Student; Central PA SKYWARN Storm Spotter; American Meteorological Society Member; PA CoCoRaHS Branch Member

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Linglestown, PA
Elevation: 520 ft
Temperature: 63.2 °F
Dew Point: 62.0 °F
Humidity: 96%
Wind: Calm
Wind Gust: 3.0 mph
Updated: 5:08 PM EDT on May 19, 2013
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