October Color Reflections...

By: Zachary Labe , 12:06 AM GMT on October 03, 2010

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Autumnal equinox has finally signaled the transition season before winter fastens its grip across the entire northern United States. October is an interesting month weatherwise and often noted for foreshadowing winter patterns down the road. Seasonal high temperatures often drop from near 70F to in the upper 50s by the month's end with most areas receiving their first frost and freeze. Fall festivals have begun including the almost wonderful Apple Festivals of the Pennsylvania dutch country. Fall leaves are changing rapidly for northern Pennsylvania courtesy of the anomalous dry period from August through the third week of September. These drought conditions with less than 0.1in of rain for many areas in combination with the near record highs of early September created the catalyst for a dull color seasons. Foresters are predicting peak color conditions for the northern mountains in Pennsylvania for the first week of October. Maples are near peak already with oaks just a bit behind. Farther south across the ridge and valley region, colors are at about 20% especially at or above 1800ft with Virginia Creepers, Birch, Red Maple, etc reaching peak by about the second week of October. Across southern Pennsylvania into Maryland and Delware, Fall colors will be early this year, but remain dull for another few weeks. Colors likely regionwide will be dull and more brown/yellows than reds/oranges thanks to the lack of rain. The recent flooding rain is just a few weeks too late to help the local forests. Oaks of the highlands in northcentral Maryland and southcentral Pennsylvania will likely reach peak by Halloween. Out across western Maryland in Garret and Alleghany County, peak conditions are occuring with ideal picture taking likely this week along Deep Creek Lake near McHenry. Towards the Poconos leaves will be reaching peak by about October 10, but already many leaves are down courtesy of 30-40mph winds above 1500ft and heavy rain from the coastal low. World's End State Park and the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon will remain ideal locations to visit for foliage for this weekend and next.

As the leaves shed and begin to Fall, the dark grayness of winter is already evident. While I focused my last blog on my winter outlook, it is critical to note that at this point the science behind long term forecasting is minimal. While accuracy has greatly improved in the last five or so years, forecasts are based on general trends and patterns with correspondance to several select indices focusing on past analogs. SO conditions have remained steadfast in the department of La Nina, but SST anomalies have begun to wane from their impressive decreasing trend. A bit of a WWB (Westerly Wind Burst) has been noted in Nino 3.4, which has allowed for a hint of warming SSTs, but this is nothing that calls for alarm of the Nina's end. In fact recent CFS ensemble runs indicate some of the lowest SST anomalies for DJF that I have ever seen progged. It is important to note that while Ninas have often been considered detrimental to snow chances in the northern Middle Atlantic, statistics on past data are so varied that correlations are extremely weak. Each Nina year seems provided with extremes both temperature and precipitation wise. It is also important to make remark on the lack of southeast ridge at this point. Typically we begin to see signs of a building southeast ridge by about October, and at this point this remains absent. Temperatures have been mild courtesy of continental warmth from Pacific maritime airmasses as the cold remained bottled up in the Arctic circle. Recent sea ice and snow cover anomaly charts have started their upswing in coverage with snowfall accumulations already being reported in parts of Alaska and into the higher Rockies. In fact standard deviation charts show that snow cover is actually above the mild winter years of 2007 and 2008, which is a good sign. Teleconnections indicate a near neutral NAO and AO, which should allow the cold to continue to build. Atlantic SST anomalies have also begun to finally wane in response to the recurving series of hurricanes in September as cool waters hundreds of feet below churned up by high surf to the surface. The problems remain in the Pacific with a stark negative PDO once again and the continued trend of global mild temperatures. None the less I have a feeling the very, very mild forecasts for the winter from some will not pan out.


(Fig 1- 12z ECMWF/GFS 10-day 850hPa thermal mean anomalies)

Finally, a near normal temperature pattern will exist across much of the eastern northern United States as ridging strengthens over the northern Midwest and Pacific Northwest with weak troughing in Ontario. The warmest temperatures for the next two weeks look to be in the October 8-9th time frame and October 13-15 with temperatures back into the 70s and 50s for lows. GFS has been signaling a cold regime after a stark cold frontal passage around mid October with regionwide frosts. The GFS has some support from the ECMWF and GEFS, especially for the mild period in early mid month. Link. Precipitation chances remain about near normal with 16 day GFS meteograms averaging about 1-4in QPF for the period.

In the nearer term, another wet week is possible for Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware. Many areas are still drying out from near record rainfall in the region, especially along a narrow corridor along the Chesapeake Bay coast up through eastern Pennsylvania. A weak offshore wave will meander off the coast in the Monday to Wednesday time frame. This is response with a strong east-northeast flow will allow for a positive correlation maritime flow off the Atlantic with light rain chances in the Monday to Wednesday time frame. A large cold pool of air over Newfoundland with a 1024mb high pressure to the west will set the stage for a cold air damming flow east of the mountains with well below normal high temperatures. In fact Monday high temperatures may not even reach 55F for areas as 850mb heights remain below 5C with pockets of 1-2C across the central Appalachians...

Rain will not be too heavy at one period, but a steady drizzle to moderate rain shower activity will allow for QPF totals to possibly build to above 1in or so for many areas especially along and east of the Hagerstown-State College-Lock Haven line. Inversion levels will allow for very low ceilings below 900ft creating IFR conditions for much of Monday through Wednesday. East of the mountains, slightly warmer temperatures and higher stratus will keep aviation conditions at MVRF. Going with a ECMWF/GGEM split with the GFS being an outlier (just a bit too progressive). 2 October 2010 12utc ECMWF run actually prints out QPF totals of 1-5in for areas in the east, so this heavy rain potential will need to be monitored. The lack of coastal low organization and lacking influence of an anomalous low level jet should inhibit heavy precipitation rates despite PWATs at +2SD. As the 850hPa low tracks south of the region and pulls out by Thursday, clearing skies and warmer temperatures will be present for the week's end. Temperatures will average slightly above normal as 850mb heights rise back to near 8-10C with weak upper level ridging in a response to a quick blurp positive NAO. The weekend will feature temperatures in the low 70s regionwide with sunshine and lows in the 50s with a cold front approaching for early of that next week.

"Here north of Harrisburg 2010 statistics"
(Severe Weather Stats...)
Severe Thunderstorm Watches- 12
Severe Thunderstorm Warnings- 10
Tornado Watches- 2
Tornado Warnings- 1
Total Thunderstorms- 18

(Precipitation Stats...)
Flood Watches- 4
Flood Warnings- 4
Monthly Precipitation- 1.05inches (October)
Yearly Precipitation- 33.08inches

(Temperature Stats...)
Heat Advisories- 5
Excessive Heat Watches- 1
Excessive Heat Warnings- 1
90degree days- 38
Highest Temperature 101F (x2)

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91. pittsburghnurse
3:16 PM GMT on October 11, 2010
Quoting goofyrider:

12.5N; 70W

Sunny, temps 88 and rising, waves zilch, 70% hu

Tomorrow more of the same

Get to trade this for rain and cold in the PA mts this weekend

Quiz: How pink does a white irish kid with freckles get under the shade of a palm tree in 5 hours at this latitude with full sun

Medium rare pink
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90. Zachary Labe
2:02 PM GMT on October 11, 2010
*Significant nor'easter to affect entire Northeast late this week. New blog coming by noon or so...

Quoting weathergeek5:
Oops i think in asked blizz a question awhile back... that I wonder if we will have temps in the 80's in October. Please do not blame me blizz!!! haha. In 2007 I think it got into the 90's if I am not mistaken.

After today, I doubt it gets too warm this month.
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89. goofyrider
1:53 PM GMT on October 11, 2010

12.5N; 70W

Sunny, temps 88 and rising, waves zilch, 70% hu

Tomorrow more of the same

Get to trade this for rain and cold in the PA mts this weekend

Quiz: How pink does a white irish kid with freckles get under the shade of a palm tree in 5 hours at this latitude with full sun
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87. weathergeek5
1:08 AM GMT on October 11, 2010
Oops i think in asked blizz a question awhile back... that I wonder if we will have temps in the 80's in October. Please do not blame me blizz!!! haha. In 2007 I think it got into the 90's if I am not mistaken.
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86. Zachary Labe
12:58 AM GMT on October 11, 2010
Probably up in the low 80s for southern Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware tomorrow.
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85. TheRasberryPatch
9:30 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
I am surprised we really haven't seen any strong fronts move through the midwest into the mid-Atlantic yet. I would guess it's almost time for a couple fronts to move out of Canada into our area
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84. baxtheweatherman
8:03 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
Today was the ride through the local State Game Lands to see the fall colors, which are not that great yet. Afterwords we went to the top of Blue Knob. The ski resort is not making snow yet- but it was very windy! A few showers went through this afternoon, but didn't get much of anything.
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83. goofyrider
2:34 PM GMT on October 10, 2010


Morn P et al

12.5N, 70W

88 now few clouds breezy
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82. originalLT
2:05 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
Cool looking low pressure system over Nebraska, looks like it has an "eye"!
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81. Zachary Labe
1:52 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
39F here this morning.

TheRasberryPatch- Yep 12:30pm we entered the long line into the parking lot and finally parked by 2pm something, ugh! New blog will be coming out tomorrow morning.
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80. originalLT
1:43 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
Got down to 37F early this morning here in Stamford CT. Supposed to have showers Tues. and then again Thurs. Going to the Berkshires in western Mass. on Friday afternoon for two days, hoping for some nice weather.
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79. pittsburghnurse
1:19 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
Taking a ride into the ridges of the Laurels to get a look at some of the better fall color. Mostly still green here with a little bit of orange, very little red (more like maroon), dull golds and dead browns. Peak is predicted within the next 10 days. Too bad.
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78. TheRasberryPatch
12:54 PM GMT on October 10, 2010
Blizz - my family went to the Apple Festival. They weren't pleased with getting to the parking lot...taking an hour to go 6 miles, but they enjoy the place once you are there.

A low of 40F this morning. a bit chilly

what is your outlook for the week, Blizz?
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76. cchamp6
11:22 AM GMT on October 10, 2010
Down to 28 so far this morning. Litchfield Ct.
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75. weathergeek5
10:49 PM GMT on October 09, 2010
At least it was not into the 80's in October :) I wonder how the month will turn out temperature wise.
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74. Zachary Labe
10:30 PM GMT on October 09, 2010
Nice day today, although a bit too warm for me; spent the day at the Arendtsville Apple Festival.
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73. cchamp6
9:06 PM GMT on October 09, 2010
Current conditions on Mt.Washington New Hampshire. Temp is 20 degrees! Winds in the 70s. Cameras are ice covered and there is snow cover!!! Gotta love that place. Link
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72. wxdude714
6:50 PM GMT on October 09, 2010
Quoting Blizzard92:

For the most part Pittsburgh, does not get much winter weather until at least mid November. That being said a stark cold blast is likely for the end of October into early November. But even with that, the chance of snow and ice is low.


Nah I like the late Decemeber(24th-30th) and Mid-Janurary 18-Feb 12) cold blasts much better for significant winter precip.

SST Anomalies will moderate heading into December and the La Nina will weaken quite noticably in Janurary.

...I also had 80-85 for this weekend back on October 1st.
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71. pittsburghnurse
12:50 PM GMT on October 09, 2010
Quoting Blizzard92:

For the most part Pittsburgh, does not get much winter weather until at least mid November. That being said a stark cold blast is likely for the end of October into early November. But even with that, the chance of snow and ice is low.


Maybe the possibility of a few flakes flying? I love to see those first flakes even if they don't stick. Most years I've seen flakes here toward the end of October and often with an Indian summer immediatley following.
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70. Zachary Labe
10:13 AM GMT on October 09, 2010
Quoting pittsburghnurse:
Blizz, any idea when I might want to mount my Blizzaks? I like to put them on when the possibility of icy conditions begin to factor into the forecast or the temp is consistently no higher than 45. My SIL thinks I should mount them at the end of October but that sounds a bit early. My car handles poorly in winter conditions without winter tires.

For the most part Pittsburgh, does not get much winter weather until at least mid November. That being said a stark cold blast is likely for the end of October into early November. But even with that, the chance of snow and ice is low.
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68. pittsburghnurse
1:59 AM GMT on October 09, 2010
Quoting pittsburghnurse:
Blizz, any idea when I might want to mount my Blizzaks? I like to put them on when the possibility of icy conditions begin to factor into the forecast or the temp is consistently no higher than 45. My SIL thinks I should mount them at the end of October but that sounds a bit early. The way I read the winter predictions, November may present some surprisingly harsh conditions. My car handles poorly in winter conditions without winter tires. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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67. pittsburghnurse
1:56 AM GMT on October 09, 2010
Blizz, any idea when I might want to mount my Blizzaks? I like to put them on when the possibility of icy conditions begin to factor into the forecast or the temp is consistently no higher than 45. My SIL thinks I should mount them at the end of October but that sounds a bit early. My car handles poorly in winter conditions without winter tires.
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66. Zachary Labe
2:45 PM GMT on October 08, 2010
Low of 43F this morning.
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65. TheF1Man
1:11 PM GMT on October 08, 2010
Ah yes Lt! Thanks!

awesome site, looks much better than TWC.

Beautiful day ahead everyone, loving the cool crisp air this morning.

EDIT: about 58 degrees here
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64. Zachary Labe
9:56 PM GMT on October 07, 2010
Quoting Mason803:
Bayard, West virginia shattered the all-time monthly snowfall record this past February. Bayard is located in Grant County right along the Potomac River. Garrett County is only a rocks throw away. I hunt up that way and i've seen first hand how much snow this area can recieve.(upslope and synoptic) Here's the offical pns statement from the sterling office:

...A NEW MONTHLY SNOWFALL RECORD FOR THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA WAS
SET IN FEBRUARY 2010...

A MONTHLY SNOWFALL TOTAL OF 158.2 INCHES WAS RECORDED AT BAYARD WEST
VIRGINIA (COOP ID 460527) THIS PAST FEBRUARY...BREAKING THE OLD
STATE RECORD OF 104.0 INCHES AT TERRA ALTA WEST VIRGINIA (COOP ID
468777) SET IN JANUARY 1977 FOR THE SNOWIEST MONTH. A STATE CLIMATE
EXTREMES COMMITTEE (SCEC) CONSISTING OF MEMBERS FROM THE NATIONAL
WEATHER SERVICE (NWS)... NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER (NCDC)...
NORTHEAST REGIONAL CLIMATE CENTER (NRCC) AND THE WEST VIRGINIA STATE
CLIMATOLOGIST REVIEWED THE RELEVANT METEOROLOGICAL DATA TO ENSURE
THAT OBSERVATIONS AT THE SITE FOLLOWED NWS PROTOCOL FOR SNOWFALL
MEASUREMENTS. FOLLOWING INITIAL APPROVAL BY THE SCEC AND FINAL
APPROVAL BY THE DIRECTOR OF NCDC...THE FEBRUARY 2010 SNOWFALL TOTAL
OF 158.2 INCHES AT BAYARD IS NOW RECOGNIZED AS THE OFFICIAL MONTHLY
SNOWFALL RECORD FOR THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.


I saw that. They really shattered the old record!
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63. Mason803
9:35 PM GMT on October 07, 2010
Bayard, West virginia shattered the all-time monthly snowfall record this past February. Bayard is located in Grant County right along the Potomac River. Garrett County is only a rocks throw away. I hunt up that way and i've seen first hand how much snow this area can recieve.(upslope and synoptic) Here's the offical pns statement from the sterling office:

...A NEW MONTHLY SNOWFALL RECORD FOR THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA WAS
SET IN FEBRUARY 2010...

A MONTHLY SNOWFALL TOTAL OF 158.2 INCHES WAS RECORDED AT BAYARD WEST
VIRGINIA (COOP ID 460527) THIS PAST FEBRUARY...BREAKING THE OLD
STATE RECORD OF 104.0 INCHES AT TERRA ALTA WEST VIRGINIA (COOP ID
468777) SET IN JANUARY 1977 FOR THE SNOWIEST MONTH. A STATE CLIMATE
EXTREMES COMMITTEE (SCEC) CONSISTING OF MEMBERS FROM THE NATIONAL
WEATHER SERVICE (NWS)... NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER (NCDC)...
NORTHEAST REGIONAL CLIMATE CENTER (NRCC) AND THE WEST VIRGINIA STATE
CLIMATOLOGIST REVIEWED THE RELEVANT METEOROLOGICAL DATA TO ENSURE
THAT OBSERVATIONS AT THE SITE FOLLOWED NWS PROTOCOL FOR SNOWFALL
MEASUREMENTS. FOLLOWING INITIAL APPROVAL BY THE SCEC AND FINAL
APPROVAL BY THE DIRECTOR OF NCDC...THE FEBRUARY 2010 SNOWFALL TOTAL
OF 158.2 INCHES AT BAYARD IS NOW RECOGNIZED AS THE OFFICIAL MONTHLY
SNOWFALL RECORD FOR THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.

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62. Mason803
9:20 PM GMT on October 07, 2010
69f was my high. had a gust to 34mph earlier.
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61. Zachary Labe
7:49 PM GMT on October 07, 2010
Beautiful day here, 69F with sunshine and a great westerly breeze.
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60. goofyrider
1:41 PM GMT on October 07, 2010
65W.;10N.

Heat lightning last night with light showers this am. Temp 82, calm winds 82% Hu overcast.

we are on the fringe bands of TS Otto looking at the Sat pics.

waves 0-6 in out of the west.
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59. TheRasberryPatch
11:02 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
total of 0.09" of rain yesterday.
looks like the day will be clear and sunny after all
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58. Zachary Labe
9:44 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
Total of 0.23in of rain yesterday.
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57. Gastonwxman
2:52 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
Quoting okympusken:
about a month ago i would have said that this winter was going to be a warm one but seeing how the patterns are now i would have to say this is going to be a very cold winter despite the sun heading for a solar maximum


Seems that way as far as certain areas that were forecasted to have a mild winter (e.g. upper southeast or the mid-atlantic states) is concerned. One thing that I'm watching for now is the snowcover taking place, with special attention toward Siberia. As of today, gains were explosive in that country, as well as a good bit of gains in other areas and sea ice coverage is now above last year's, approaching toward the 2005 total around this time.

Aside from that, this exactly reminds me of the big debate back in 2002-2003 where most people said it will be a warm winter and it turned out to be cold instead, especially for the eastern half of the U.S. and parts of the Pacific NW and SW region. Of course, there was an el nino occurring then, but here we're dealing with a non-typical la nina, which will not bring its normal conditions for the U.S., despite its strength. This will be a season to bring a few surprises for sure.
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56. originalLT
1:13 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
TheF1Man, I use on the computer, Intellicast's "Interactive Radar" It seems pretty accurate, although some times alittle over-done(virga shows up frequently), but it up-dates every 5 mins., and you can zoom in close, and of course set it in motion. I saw today your area at college, was in the rain all day, as well as eastern Ct., RI., and Most of Mass., wrapping back into up-state NY.
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55. TheF1Man
12:29 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
Yeah TRP it looks like it wants to spin around some more and hang around. TWC still hasn't picked up on the fact that it's rained ALL DAY...their radar somehow did watch what i saw outside. It said there wasn't any rain near my area while in fact it was pouring...
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54. TheRasberryPatch
12:09 AM GMT on October 07, 2010
showers off and on all day. looking at the radar you wonder if the storm will pull out for a full sunny day tomorrow like the forecast predicts
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53. okympusken
8:58 PM GMT on October 06, 2010
about a month ago i would have said that this winter was going to be a warm one but seeing how the patterns are now i would have to say this is going to be a very cold winter despite the sun heading for a solar maximum
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52. Zachary Labe
7:25 PM GMT on October 06, 2010
Additional .08in of rain today with a total at .62in.
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51. TheF1Man
6:55 PM GMT on October 06, 2010
Wish it was 68 degrees here in springfield! raw and rainy all day long. I don't think it's stopped at all
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49. goofyrider
12:00 AM GMT on October 06, 2010
re " P'S garden"

If you can find a fancier of racing birds this will be great manure

otherwise fresh horse stable or cow slop allowed to mature in the sun a bit


best used if they are allowed to age somewhat and as you are looking to do now are best applied in the fall and allowed to compost as you turn over soil.

P POOP is best for acid loving plants applied fresh in a furrow about 8-12in diameter from the stalk. renew as needed. cut worms not happy with this stuff.
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48. baxtheweatherman
10:15 PM GMT on October 05, 2010
Snow flurries in Snowshoe West Virginia today.
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42. TheRasberryPatch
8:32 PM GMT on October 05, 2010
dry here all day, Blizz. a few spritzes this morning, but nothing to wet the ground really.
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41. Zachary Labe
7:21 PM GMT on October 05, 2010
Dry here most of the day, excluding the morning.
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